One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as gospel anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you have been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the local LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the few ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on that person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info that had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly often. I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most published works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through royal families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe not. I think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are just dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only fairly recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. Tyrone..and that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are genuine. It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no matter if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or documents to back it up. IMHO, Cousin Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer > name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual > references an am waiting for an answer." > > Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D > Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D > > "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." > > Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? One > day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay > someone to find out for me! ;D > > Take care, > > Rob. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, cousin Marilyn who can't spell her own name correctly, don't necessarily believe the DAR records also. I found a BIG mistake in mine, tried to correct it, and got nowhere. So anyone tracing that line can just go on forever tracing the wrong line. Anything I get that is undocumented and expecially takes me back to King Arthur or whoever, I take all the info, bundle it up and save it for some later date when I MAY be proved. And probably won't be. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as gospel > anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You > really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you have > been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the > U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to > confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. > > When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the local > LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the few > ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on that > person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info that > had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly > often. > I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of > information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can > trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most > published > works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who > wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. > > If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one > genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through > royal > families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the > records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe not. > I > think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are > just > dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. > > As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to > searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only fairly > recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. > Tyrone..and > that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are > genuine. > It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no > matter > if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or > documents to back it up. > > IMHO, > Cousin Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >> references an am waiting for an answer." >> >> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >> >> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >> >> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >> One >> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay >> someone to find out for me! ;D >> >> Take care, >> >> Rob. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

As far as I know now, at least, you have to provide copies of the original marriage/birth records to join the D.A.R. I have 5 (or maybe 6) Revolutionary soldiers on my mother's side, but I never felt any desire to join. I do have a couple of great aunts who did the research on a couple of those men in order to join, so I guess if I ever wanted to join it wouldn't be too hard to access the stuff they have already done. I know the organization does a lot of good and patriotic things (before anybody jumps on me about this) but I never wanted to bother even though I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to join. I guess I just don't like the exclusivity of it. Cousin Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Well, cousin Marilyn who can't spell her own name correctly, don't > necessarily believe the DAR records also. I found a BIG mistake in mine, > tried to correct it, and got nowhere. So anyone tracing that line can just > go on forever tracing the wrong line. Anything I get that is undocumented > and expecially takes me back to King Arthur or whoever, I take all the > info, > bundle it up and save it for some later date when I MAY be proved. And > probably won't be. > Marilynn > IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as gospel >> anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >> really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you have >> been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the >> U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to >> confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >> >> When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the local >> LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >> few >> ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >> that >> person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >> that >> had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >> often. >> I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >> information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can >> trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >> published >> works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who >> wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >> >> If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >> genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >> royal >> families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >> records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe not. >> I >> think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >> just >> dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >> >> As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >> searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only fairly >> recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >> Tyrone..and >> that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >> genuine. >> It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >> matter >> if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or >> documents to back it up. >> >> IMHO, >> Cousin Marilyn >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >>> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>> references an am waiting for an answer." >>> >>> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>> >>> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>> >>> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>> One >>> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay >>> someone to find out for me! ;D >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Rob. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We sure agree on that one. I joined and then quit. What I found was wrong was taken from an old book published in the late 1800s and in those day, such things were accepted. Now they would not be but the old stuff is still in their records. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > As far as I know now, at least, you have to provide copies of the original > marriage/birth records to join the D.A.R. I have 5 (or maybe 6) > Revolutionary soldiers on my mother's side, but I never felt any desire to > join. I do have a couple of great aunts who did the research on a couple > of > those men in order to join, so I guess if I ever wanted to join it > wouldn't > be too hard to access the stuff they have already done. I know the > organization does a lot of good and patriotic things (before anybody jumps > on me about this) but I never wanted to bother even though I have a friend > who keeps trying to get me to join. I guess I just don't like the > exclusivity of it. > > Cousin Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> Well, cousin Marilyn who can't spell her own name correctly, don't >> necessarily believe the DAR records also. I found a BIG mistake in mine, >> tried to correct it, and got nowhere. So anyone tracing that line can >> just >> go on forever tracing the wrong line. Anything I get that is >> undocumented >> and expecially takes me back to King Arthur or whoever, I take all the >> info, >> bundle it up and save it for some later date when I MAY be proved. And >> probably won't be. >> Marilynn >> IBSSG >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >>> One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as >>> gospel >>> anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >>> really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you >>> have >>> been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the >>> U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to >>> confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >>> >>> When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the >>> local >>> LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >>> few >>> ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >>> that >>> person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >>> that >>> had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >>> often. >>> I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >>> information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can >>> trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >>> published >>> works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who >>> wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >>> >>> If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >>> genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >>> royal >>> families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >>> records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe >>> not. >>> I >>> think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >>> just >>> dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >>> >>> As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >>> searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only >>> fairly >>> recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >>> Tyrone..and >>> that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >>> genuine. >>> It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >>> matter >>> if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or >>> documents to back it up. >>> >>> IMHO, >>> Cousin Marilyn >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>>> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>>> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>>> references an am waiting for an answer." >>>> >>>> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>>> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>>> >>>> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>>> >>>> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>>> One >>>> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay >>>> someone to find out for me! ;D >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> >>>> Rob. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Marilyn, That must be one LONG list of begats! ;-) Jill in Washington state From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre I have one > genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically

Hi saw you were researching thewrong Armstrongs for ages. I am descended from William Armstrong (he is my g g grandfather) who came from Ireland in the 1820's to beautiful Australia. He left behind 3 children. Do you have any info on this line of Armstrongs. If you need more info let me know. Kind regards Faye Chapman (nee Armstrong) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as gospel anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you have been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the local LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the few ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on that person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info that had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly often. I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most published works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through royal families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe not. I think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are just dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only fairly recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. Tyrone..and that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are genuine. It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no matter if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or documents to back it up. IMHO, Cousin Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer > name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual > references an am waiting for an answer." > > Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D > Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D > > "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." > > Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? One > day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay > someone to find out for me! ;D > > Take care, > > Rob. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 3/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 4/10/2006