Here's a good example of unintentional consequences. I have a relative that came in to New Orleans as an orphan about 1853. We couldn't figure out why he CAME as an orphan but this would be an interesting angle to check out. One of those "duh" revelations. THANKS! Robert E. Armstrong wrote: > Dear James, > For what it's worth, I found the microfilmed passenger list of one of > the two rescue boats that brought survivors of the William and Mary > disaster to New Orleans in 1853. I found them at the Clayton > Genealogical Library in Houston. All five members of my grandmother's > family of Browns were listed, however two of the names were hardly legible. > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > > > James D. Allen wrote: > > >> Marilyn and List: >> >> Any idea where I'd go to get passenger list for a Scotsman who came to >> the US (ending up in either MA or RI) after the Civil war (I assume >> 1865-72) from an unknown port of departure? >> >> I've drawn blanks from searching the standard on line or MA Archive >> passenger lists, and am not real familiar with different books or other >> resources out there. There are so many ports and boats, >> I'm not sure where to best spend my energy. When you refer to "ships >> records" is that a single source or do you have to search each ship somehow? >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> Marilyn Otterson wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello, Faye, >>> You have given very little information to help find more about your William >>> Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>> >>> You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia from >>> Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your William >>> there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >>> mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the kids? >>> Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >>> those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>> instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland in >>> 1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do you >>> know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in Australia? >>> Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time finding >>> more information about William's family in Ireland. >>> >>> Sorry not to be of more help. >>> >>> Marilyn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > >

Dear James, There were only 208 passengers aboard the William and Mary. Most were Irish, and the second largest contingent were Dutch. There was two small families of English passengers, my grandmother's family was from Scotland, and there was one additional Scottish male, Mr. Miller from Edinburgh. There was one Frenchman aboard. The two English were named Mr. Luke Stewart with a wife and two daughters, and Mr. Joseph Brooke and his wife. All the Dutch passengers have names difficult for me to spell. Sincerely, Bob Armstrong James D. Allen wrote: >Here's a good example of unintentional consequences. >I have a relative that came in to New Orleans as an orphan about 1853. >We couldn't figure out why he CAME as an orphan but this would be an >interesting angle to check out. >One of those "duh" revelations. > >THANKS! > > > > >Robert E. Armstrong wrote: > > >>Dear James, >>For what it's worth, I found the microfilmed passenger list of one of >>the two rescue boats that brought survivors of the William and Mary >>disaster to New Orleans in 1853. I found them at the Clayton >>Genealogical Library in Houston. All five members of my grandmother's >>family of Browns were listed, however two of the names were hardly legible. >>Sincerely, >>Bob Armstrong >> >> >>James D. Allen wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Marilyn and List: >>> >>>Any idea where I'd go to get passenger list for a Scotsman who came to >>>the US (ending up in either MA or RI) after the Civil war (I assume >>>1865-72) from an unknown port of departure? >>> >>>I've drawn blanks from searching the standard on line or MA Archive >>>passenger lists, and am not real familiar with different books or other >>>resources out there. There are so many ports and boats, >>>I'm not sure where to best spend my energy. When you refer to "ships >>>records" is that a single source or do you have to search each ship somehow? >>> >>>Any suggestions? >>> >>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Marilyn Otterson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hello, Faye, >>>>You have given very little information to help find more about your William >>>>Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>>> >>>>You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia from >>>>Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your William >>>>there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >>>>mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the kids? >>>>Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >>>>those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>>>instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland in >>>>1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do you >>>>know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in Australia? >>>>Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time finding >>>>more information about William's family in Ireland. >>>> >>>>Sorry not to be of more help. >>>> >>>>Marilyn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Sincerely, Bob Armstrong in Houston, TX picture "I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without regret." Roderick Haig-Brown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of America, author of the veterinary mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bob, Mine was a Miller. My Mother's father's side. Any idea how old he was? Hmmmm. Robert E. Armstrong wrote: > Dear James, > There were only 208 passengers aboard the William and Mary. Most were > Irish, and the second largest contingent were Dutch. There was two small > families of English passengers, my grandmother's family was from > Scotland, and there was one additional Scottish male, Mr. Miller from > Edinburgh. There was one Frenchman aboard. The two English were named > Mr. Luke Stewart with a wife and two daughters, and Mr. Joseph Brooke > and his wife. > All the Dutch passengers have names difficult for me to spell. > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > > > James D. Allen wrote: > > >> Here's a good example of unintentional consequences. >> I have a relative that came in to New Orleans as an orphan about 1853. >> We couldn't figure out why he CAME as an orphan but this would be an >> interesting angle to check out. >> One of those "duh" revelations. >> >> THANKS! >> >> >> >> >> Robert E. Armstrong wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dear James, >>> For what it's worth, I found the microfilmed passenger list of one of >>> the two rescue boats that brought survivors of the William and Mary >>> disaster to New Orleans in 1853. I found them at the Clayton >>> Genealogical Library in Houston. All five members of my grandmother's >>> family of Browns were listed, however two of the names were hardly legible. >>> Sincerely, >>> Bob Armstrong >>> >>> >>> James D. Allen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Marilyn and List: >>>> >>>> Any idea where I'd go to get passenger list for a Scotsman who came to >>>> the US (ending up in either MA or RI) after the Civil war (I assume >>>> 1865-72) from an unknown port of departure? >>>> >>>> I've drawn blanks from searching the standard on line or MA Archive >>>> passenger lists, and am not real familiar with different books or other >>>> resources out there. There are so many ports and boats, >>>> I'm not sure where to best spend my energy. When you refer to "ships >>>> records" is that a single source or do you have to search each ship somehow? >>>> >>>> Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Marilyn Otterson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, Faye, >>>>> You have given very little information to help find more about your William >>>>> Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>>>> >>>>> You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia from >>>>> Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your William >>>>> there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >>>>> mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the kids? >>>>> Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >>>>> those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>>>> instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland in >>>>> 1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do you >>>>> know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in Australia? >>>>> Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time finding >>>>> more information about William's family in Ireland. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry not to be of more help. >>>>> >>>>> Marilyn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > >

HI...am I wrong or didn't the William and Mary make more than one trip with more than one bunch of passengers to the new world? I am pretty sure it did. I am quite sure (although I 'll have to look them up now) that my ancestors were English when they came here. There were several and I'd have to go back through some genealogies to find them but I will try if you need me to do that. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Dear James, > There were only 208 passengers aboard the William and Mary. Most were > Irish, and the second largest contingent were Dutch. There was two small > families of English passengers, my grandmother's family was from > Scotland, and there was one additional Scottish male, Mr. Miller from > Edinburgh. There was one Frenchman aboard. The two English were named > Mr. Luke Stewart with a wife and two daughters, and Mr. Joseph Brooke > and his wife. > All the Dutch passengers have names difficult for me to spell. > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > > > James D. Allen wrote: > >>Here's a good example of unintentional consequences. >>I have a relative that came in to New Orleans as an orphan about 1853. >>We couldn't figure out why he CAME as an orphan but this would be an >>interesting angle to check out. >>One of those "duh" revelations. >> >>THANKS! >> >> >> >> >>Robert E. Armstrong wrote: >> >> >>>Dear James, >>>For what it's worth, I found the microfilmed passenger list of one of >>>the two rescue boats that brought survivors of the William and Mary >>>disaster to New Orleans in 1853. I found them at the Clayton >>>Genealogical Library in Houston. All five members of my grandmother's >>>family of Browns were listed, however two of the names were hardly >>>legible. >>>Sincerely, >>>Bob Armstrong >>> >>> >>>James D. Allen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Marilyn and List: >>>> >>>>Any idea where I'd go to get passenger list for a Scotsman who came to >>>>the US (ending up in either MA or RI) after the Civil war (I assume >>>>1865-72) from an unknown port of departure? >>>> >>>>I've drawn blanks from searching the standard on line or MA Archive >>>>passenger lists, and am not real familiar with different books or other >>>>resources out there. There are so many ports and boats, >>>>I'm not sure where to best spend my energy. When you refer to "ships >>>>records" is that a single source or do you have to search each ship >>>>somehow? >>>> >>>>Any suggestions? >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Marilyn Otterson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hello, Faye, >>>>>You have given very little information to help find more about your >>>>>William >>>>>Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>>>> >>>>>You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia >>>>>from >>>>>Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your >>>>>William >>>>>there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >>>>>mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the >>>>>kids? >>>>>Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >>>>>those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>>>>instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland >>>>>in >>>>>1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do >>>>>you >>>>>know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in >>>>>Australia? >>>>>Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time >>>>>finding >>>>>more information about William's family in Ireland. >>>>> >>>>>Sorry not to be of more help. >>>>> >>>>>Marilyn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > -- > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > in Houston, TX > picture > "I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without > regret." Roderick Haig-Brown > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of > America, author of the veterinary > mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, > ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and > INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble > Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message