Sure...no Revolutionary ancestral connection. And I have been thinking...my mother's old Yankee family would have had plenty of candidates, but my Armstrong clan didn't get here until the 1860s so of course would not be eligible for the D.A.R. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Dear Marilyn, > Now you've got me interested. Can you tell me what caused them to be > excluded? > The DAR organizations around here seem to be anxious to have new members. > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > in Houston, TX > > Marilyn Otterson wrote: > >>What I meant was...it's an organization that is not open to every >>interested >>woman. As I said, I know that the D.A.R. sponsors educational and >>patriotic >>projects which is admirable. Your wife belongs; I am eligible to belong; >>however, some of my friends who might like to be members can't belong. >>They >>are exluded. That's what I meant by "exclusive." >> >>Marilyn >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:06 PM >>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >> >> >>>Dear Marilyn, >>>It's not so exclusive. My wife belongs to it. >>>Sincerely, >>>Bob Armstrong >>>in Houston, TX >>> >>>Marilyn Otterson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>As far as I know now, at least, you have to provide copies of the >>>>original >>>>marriage/birth records to join the D.A.R. I have 5 (or maybe 6) >>>>Revolutionary soldiers on my mother's side, but I never felt any desire >>>>to >>>>join. I do have a couple of great aunts who did the research on a >>>>couple >>>>of >>>>those men in order to join, so I guess if I ever wanted to join it >>>>wouldn't >>>>be too hard to access the stuff they have already done. I know the >>>>organization does a lot of good and patriotic things (before anybody >>>>jumps >>>>on me about this) but I never wanted to bother even though I have a >>>>friend >>>>who keeps trying to get me to join. I guess I just don't like the >>>>exclusivity of it. >>>> >>>>Cousin Marilyn >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:04 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Well, cousin Marilyn who can't spell her own name correctly, don't >>>>>necessarily believe the DAR records also. I found a BIG mistake in >>>>>mine, >>>>>tried to correct it, and got nowhere. So anyone tracing that line can >>>>>just >>>>>go on forever tracing the wrong line. Anything I get that is >>>>>undocumented >>>>>and expecially takes me back to King Arthur or whoever, I take all the >>>>>info, >>>>>bundle it up and save it for some later date when I MAY be proved. And >>>>>probably won't be. >>>>>Marilynn >>>>>IBSSG >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> >>>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:55 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as >>>>>>gospel >>>>>>anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >>>>>>really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you >>>>>>have >>>>>>been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to >>>>>>the >>>>>>U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or >>>>>>religious...to >>>>>>confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >>>>>> >>>>>>When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the >>>>>>local >>>>>>LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >>>>>>few >>>>>>ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >>>>>>that >>>>>>person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >>>>>>that >>>>>>had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >>>>>>often. >>>>>>I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >>>>>>information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I >>>>>>can >>>>>>trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >>>>>>published >>>>>>works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those >>>>>>who >>>>>>wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >>>>>> >>>>>>If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >>>>>>genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >>>>>>royal >>>>>>families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >>>>>>records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe >>>>>>not. >>>>>>I >>>>>>think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >>>>>>just >>>>>>dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >>>>>> >>>>>>As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >>>>>>searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only >>>>>>fairly >>>>>>recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >>>>>>Tyrone..and >>>>>>that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >>>>>>genuine. >>>>>>It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >>>>>>matter >>>>>>if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records >>>>>>or >>>>>>documents to back it up. >>>>>> >>>>>>IMHO, >>>>>>Cousin Marilyn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >>>>>>To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >>>>>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>"After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>>>>>>name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>>>>>>references an am waiting for an answer." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>>>>>>Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>>>>>>One >>>>>>>day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to >>>>>>>pay >>>>>>>someone to find out for me! ;D >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Take care, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Rob. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Sincerely, >>>Bob Armstrong >>>in Houston, TX >>>picture >>>"I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without >>>regret." Roderick Haig-Brown >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of >>>America, author of the veterinary >>> mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, >>>ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and >>> INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble >>> Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > -- > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > in Houston, TX > picture > "I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without > regret." Roderick Haig-Brown > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of > America, author of the veterinary > mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, > ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and > INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble > Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Marilyn, Both my wife and I had ancestors who fought in the American Revolution. She is a DAR member and I am an SAR member. But here's another idea for you. My earliest ancestors came to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1630, with the Winthrop Fleet. "They were not Armstrongs." My wife's earliest ancestor came to the Massachusetts Bay Colony on September 19, 1635 aboard the ship True Love. This qualified both of us for membership in the Winthrop Society. Of course maybe this isn't as prestigious as the Mayflower Society, or the DAR, but we get a kick out of knowing when they came to America. Maybe you might like to look up the Winthrop Society. Sincerely, Bob Armstrong Marilyn Otterson wrote: >Sure...no Revolutionary ancestral connection. And I have been thinking...my >mother's old Yankee family would have had plenty of candidates, but my >Armstrong clan didn't get here until the 1860s so of course would not be >eligible for the D.A.R. > >Marilyn > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:51 PM >Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > > > >>Dear Marilyn, >>Now you've got me interested. Can you tell me what caused them to be >>excluded? >>The DAR organizations around here seem to be anxious to have new members. >>Sincerely, >>Bob Armstrong >>in Houston, TX >> >>Marilyn Otterson wrote: >> >> >> >>>What I meant was...it's an organization that is not open to every >>>interested >>>woman. As I said, I know that the D.A.R. sponsors educational and >>>patriotic >>>projects which is admirable. Your wife belongs; I am eligible to belong; >>>however, some of my friends who might like to be members can't belong. >>>They >>>are exluded. That's what I meant by "exclusive." >>> >>>Marilyn >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:06 PM >>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Dear Marilyn, >>>>It's not so exclusive. My wife belongs to it. >>>>Sincerely, >>>>Bob Armstrong >>>>in Houston, TX >>>> >>>>Marilyn Otterson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>As far as I know now, at least, you have to provide copies of the >>>>>original >>>>>marriage/birth records to join the D.A.R. I have 5 (or maybe 6) >>>>>Revolutionary soldiers on my mother's side, but I never felt any desire >>>>>to >>>>>join. I do have a couple of great aunts who did the research on a >>>>>couple >>>>>of >>>>>those men in order to join, so I guess if I ever wanted to join it >>>>>wouldn't >>>>>be too hard to access the stuff they have already done. I know the >>>>>organization does a lot of good and patriotic things (before anybody >>>>>jumps >>>>>on me about this) but I never wanted to bother even though I have a >>>>>friend >>>>>who keeps trying to get me to join. I guess I just don't like the >>>>>exclusivity of it. >>>>> >>>>>Cousin Marilyn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >>>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:04 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Well, cousin Marilyn who can't spell her own name correctly, don't >>>>>>necessarily believe the DAR records also. I found a BIG mistake in >>>>>>mine, >>>>>>tried to correct it, and got nowhere. So anyone tracing that line can >>>>>>just >>>>>>go on forever tracing the wrong line. Anything I get that is >>>>>>undocumented >>>>>>and expecially takes me back to King Arthur or whoever, I take all the >>>>>>info, >>>>>>bundle it up and save it for some later date when I MAY be proved. And >>>>>>probably won't be. >>>>>>Marilynn >>>>>>IBSSG >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> >>>>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:55 AM >>>>>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as >>>>>>>gospel >>>>>>>anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >>>>>>>really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you >>>>>>>have >>>>>>>been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or >>>>>>>religious...to >>>>>>>confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the >>>>>>>local >>>>>>>LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >>>>>>>few >>>>>>>ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >>>>>>>often. >>>>>>>I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >>>>>>>information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I >>>>>>>can >>>>>>>trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >>>>>>>published >>>>>>>works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those >>>>>>>who >>>>>>>wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >>>>>>>genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >>>>>>>royal >>>>>>>families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >>>>>>>records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe >>>>>>>not. >>>>>>>I >>>>>>>think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >>>>>>>just >>>>>>>dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >>>>>>>searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only >>>>>>>fairly >>>>>>>recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >>>>>>>Tyrone..and >>>>>>>that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >>>>>>>genuine. >>>>>>>It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >>>>>>>matter >>>>>>>if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records >>>>>>>or >>>>>>>documents to back it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>IMHO, >>>>>>>Cousin Marilyn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>>>>>>>name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>>>>>>>references an am waiting for an answer." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>>>>>>>Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>>>>>>>One >>>>>>>>day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to >>>>>>>>pay >>>>>>>>someone to find out for me! ;D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Take care, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Rob. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Sincerely, >>>>Bob Armstrong >>>>in Houston, TX >>>>picture >>>>"I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without >>>>regret." Roderick Haig-Brown >>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of >>>>America, author of the veterinary >>>> mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, >>>>ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and >>>> INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble >>>> Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ >>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Sincerely, >>Bob Armstrong >>in Houston, TX >>picture >>"I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without >>regret." Roderick Haig-Brown >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of >>America, author of the veterinary >> mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, >>ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and >> INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble >> Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Sincerely, Bob Armstrong in Houston, TX picture "I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without regret." Roderick Haig-Brown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of America, author of the veterinary mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~