This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Keffer, Keefer, Morehart, Houser, Rohrbach, Rohrbach,Eckenrode Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/2580 Message Board Post: James born 1834 married Ellen M Keffer b 1846 Children Augusta (Gussie) 1867 Alta 1869 Julie Ann 1871 Alfred 1874 Maggie 1877 Joseph 1880 I have info alot of info on Ellen Matilda ancestry looking for fellow researchers

Hi, I thought this would be useful. In the Tasmania List I am on, someone was asking what a WRITER did in the colonial days. A person sent this site which explains that a writer was a scribe or clerk and was given a lot of work writing for the illiterate people of the day, ie convicts wanting to write back to families etc and other areas as well where ther was illiteracy. Someone may be wondering about a certain profession. http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/trades.html#TOP Edie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Armstrong Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kQB.2ACIB/1606.1 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on Christie (Or Y) Armstrong who married TJ Leak ( Thomas Jeremiah) possibly from SC Around mid 1800's. They had a son Martin Luther Leak who married Laura Jane Lindley. They (ML AND Laura Jane) had a dau. born in SC Before 1890 and moved to Marshall Co. Al when she was just a tiny little ---girl. ist Child was Lula Leak Hunt Their next children were Bass Leak, Tom (Thos. Jer) , Sam Leak, Ulysses Leak, Bonzy--aka- (Martin Hampton Leak) And dau. Hattie Leak. Most of the leak family is buried in New Brashiers, Chapel Cemetery, Near Arab, Marshall Co. AL

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kQB.2ACIB/2426.1 Message Board Post: I am trying to locate info on my ggggranmother CHRISTIE ARMSTRONG born poss. early l800's. she married TJ( Thomas Jeremiah?) LEAK . They had a son named Martin Luther Leak who married LAURA JANE LINDLEY. LAURA JANE was 1/2 Indian ( per my granny born 1911 in AL and still going strong) The Leaks could have been from the ANDERSON, SC area and moved to Marshall Co. AL Possibly around 1880 and settled near Arab. Laura Jane and Martin Luther app. had 10 children in Marshall Co. The oldest girl was born in SC, thou. I know there are still Leak Cousin's in the Anderson area

The Pontotoc Dragoons Muster Roll Pontotoc County, Mississippi http://www.rootsweb.com/~mspontot/cw/dragoons.htm ARMSTRONGS listed - as well as Whites (related in my line anyway) Kathleen "Neither you nor the world knows what you can do until you have tried." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson "The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears." Cherokee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

The Pontotoc Dragoons Muster Roll Pontotoc County, Mississippi http://www.rootsweb.com/~mspontot/cw/dragoons.htm ARMSTRONGS listed - as well as Whites (related in my line anyway) Kathleen "Neither you nor the world knows what you can do until you have tried." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson "The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears." Cherokee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I have just noticed sultanas. I looked into the Pennysylvannia, Dutch Cooking book I bought in the USA and not one sultana mentioned in the Cake pages. I was so surprised. They are as common as dirt here. I will have to find out what dried fruit they are. They are the size between a Raisin (dried grape) and currant (black currant. They are a light brown in colour and sweet like the other two and are one of our main ingredients when making cakes. In the dictionary it say a sultans wife or type of raisin. Tht is the best I can do. You could most likely chop up some raisins and get almost the same affect or again try the deli, they normally specialise in overseas cuisine. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > OK Edie, > What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? > Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. > Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. > I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! > Fount > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > Hi > > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't heard for > or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > > > Slymslaw > > Serves 12 > > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > > 1 small onion finely sliced > > 1 cup grated carrot > > 1 cup sliced celery > > 1cup sliced mushrooms > > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted ones. > > 1 apple diced (skin on) > > one third cup sultanas > > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > > Salt and Pepper taste > > > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill until > browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to cool. > Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. > Refrigerate till required. > > > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > > 100g plain chocolate sponge > > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > > 60 ml port or sherry > > > > CUSTARD MIX > > 2 cups skim milk > > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > > 3 level tablespoons sugar > > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the custard > mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk stirring > constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and place > around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then place > drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge until > both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is > mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You can view > the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. There > are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made with > low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms They > are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 > Australian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Fount, I think you may refer to them as Red Peppers. They are Green, or Red or even a orangy colour and are more round. They are very different from the hot chillies. I love them and can ea them raw no problem. The pine nuts I buy are in a packet. You can buy them already roasted or raw. They resember the shape of a gratefruit or apple and are white. You may have to go to the delicateasen to find them if your local supermarket do not stock them or maybe a chinese supermarket. As in the Trifle our Jelly crystals would be your Jello. In England I remember they used to sell it in Jelly cubes, but here they sell in crystals though it may have come the other way years before. Our measurements are metric. 250g is about 8 ounces. 125g about 4 ounces and so on. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > OK Edie, > What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? > Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. > Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. > I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! > Fount > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > Hi > > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't heard for > or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > > > Slymslaw > > Serves 12 > > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > > 1 small onion finely sliced > > 1 cup grated carrot > > 1 cup sliced celery > > 1cup sliced mushrooms > > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted ones. > > 1 apple diced (skin on) > > one third cup sultanas > > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > > Salt and Pepper taste > > > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill until > browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to cool. > Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. > Refrigerate till required. > > > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > > 100g plain chocolate sponge > > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > > 60 ml port or sherry > > > > CUSTARD MIX > > 2 cups skim milk > > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > > 3 level tablespoons sugar > > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the custard > mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk stirring > constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and place > around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then place > drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge until > both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is > mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You can view > the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. There > are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made with > low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms They > are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 > Australian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You have some insight as to what the Spacecraft looked like and know what they are talking about when they say about the tiles and other parts that fell off. It is so far away, but you cannot still help feeling for those poor astronauts adn their families. Then there are the families of the students who have perished in that avalanche in British Columibia. You just don't think it can happen to you, but it does. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:31 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > Edie, > > We live about 25 miles south of the Cape and stood in our yard and watched > the lift off of Columbia, never dreaming that it and its crew would never > land. > On the morning it was to land, we were to pick up my wife's niece's family > from a cruse with the St Louis Cardinals and we left a few minutes early so > as to watch the Columbia land. I waited for the sonic boom that rocks our > house when a shuttle comes in and expected a really loud one from where were > waiting and nothing happened. I searched the sky, along with thousands of > others, who waited on roadsides and beaches and nothing was to be seen. > We had our radio on a station that was covering the landing and dreaded > reports started coming in. We knew there was to be no landing. People stayed > in the area looking at the sky and then looking at each other and slowly > getting in their cars as if they didn't know what to do. > The Columbia was the shuttle that Denis Armstrong took some of us Armstrongs > inside the building where they were preparing her for an earlier flight and > workers were replacing damaged tiles and had it opened up and we could see > inside and marvel at the size of it. We couldn't touch it as it was only > touched by workers dressed as if they were in an operating room. > Fount > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:16 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > Some of the remarks Joe in the paper from the family members are, their > > Loved ones got to fulfill their dreams of making it to space. With that > in > > mind and looking for the positives in the situation. I think we have to > be > > pleased for them and it is something for their families to hold on to. > Would > > have been great to have been that close to the spacecraft. We were in > > Florida in 1989, but didn't have a clue how much time was needed to see > all > > the sites and didn't get to see that area unfortunately. > > > > Australia had an interest in the Columbia, as children from a school in > > victoria, had been doing a science project which involved sending spiders > > into space inside of the Columbia. Think it was an experiment to see how > > strong the spider webs were. I am sure there was more to it. It will be > in > > the newspapers somewhere. They had been working on the project for 4 > years. > > So a huge disappointment for them and I suppose those children will be > > affected emotionally by the Spacecraft exploding with all those lives > lost. > > Edie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Armstrong" <gateshead8@gateshead8.free-online.co.uk> > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:32 AM > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > Dear Armstrongs, > > > > > > As a young laddie I was regarded as a bit of a nut as we used to say. > > Why? > > > because I read those crazy tales of men travelling into space that's > why. > > > > > > Well, we lived to see it come true, and no doubt all the mockers would > be > > > saying how they knew all along that it was likely! (#}:0)) > > > > > > It came many years, indeed decades, before I really expected it. As a > > boy > > > it seemed that if I lived to be a very old man it might just come about > > > before I died. In the event I was a relatively young man when it > happened > > > that 'Our Niel' stepped on the Moon. > > > > > > All told there have been 24 dramatic deaths which, although they cause > > > eternal grief to the families concerned, bring glory to the nation and > the > > > people who devised and carried out the whole space programme. > > > > > > It seems an awful thing to say but when you consider the enormity of > what > > > has been achieved this appears to be a modest price to pay. > > > > > > Look at the history of flight, look at the history of the motor car. > All > > > have their martyrs and victims, they still do. > > > > > > In this region on New Year's Eve a crazy unstoppable car thief with 92 > > > convictions mowed down a family killing the six year old daughter and > > > severely injuring her younger sister. > > > > > > This; 130 years after the motor was invented! It puts the tragedy of > > > yesterday into perspective. > > > > > > Even bearing in mind all those men who died in the experiments with > > > aircraft leading to the development of spacecraft it is still a model of > > > caution in the making of Man's greatest adventure. > > > > > > On March 27th 2001 Rita and I went with Gerri and Fount Armstrong > > > to the hangar where the shuttles are serviced, led by Dennis Armstrong > > > of N.A.S.A. > > > > > > Here a quote from my journal for that day; > > > > > > "We went into hangar 2 the one where Columbia is being readied. > > > What a thrill to stand under that huge wing, only feet overhead. > > > A woman was doing something just inside the door at the nosecone. > > > Others did jobs on other parts. We are not allowed to touch it but the > > > thought came to me I was standing in the front of a vehicle that has > > > many times been in space. We were all overawed by the occasion." > > > > > > That wonder has not diminished, it is indeed a high adventure. > > > > > > The Columbia crew are dead, but, > > > > > > The Dream Is Alive! > > > > > > Joe Armstrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/2412.1 Message Board Post: Was your William born Dumbleyrigg 1828, parents John & Hannah? Regards Joyce

OK Edie, What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > Hi > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't heard for or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > Slymslaw > Serves 12 > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > 1 small onion finely sliced > 1 cup grated carrot > 1 cup sliced celery > 1cup sliced mushrooms > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted ones. > 1 apple diced (skin on) > one third cup sultanas > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > Salt and Pepper taste > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill until browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to cool. Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. Refrigerate till required. > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > 100g plain chocolate sponge > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > 60 ml port or sherry > > CUSTARD MIX > 2 cups skim milk > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > 3 level tablespoons sugar > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the custard mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk stirring constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and place around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then place drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge until both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You can view the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. There are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made with low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms They are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 Australian. > > > > > >

Edie, We live about 25 miles south of the Cape and stood in our yard and watched the lift off of Columbia, never dreaming that it and its crew would never land. On the morning it was to land, we were to pick up my wife's niece's family from a cruse with the St Louis Cardinals and we left a few minutes early so as to watch the Columbia land. I waited for the sonic boom that rocks our house when a shuttle comes in and expected a really loud one from where were waiting and nothing happened. I searched the sky, along with thousands of others, who waited on roadsides and beaches and nothing was to be seen. We had our radio on a station that was covering the landing and dreaded reports started coming in. We knew there was to be no landing. People stayed in the area looking at the sky and then looking at each other and slowly getting in their cars as if they didn't know what to do. The Columbia was the shuttle that Denis Armstrong took some of us Armstrongs inside the building where they were preparing her for an earlier flight and workers were replacing damaged tiles and had it opened up and we could see inside and marvel at the size of it. We couldn't touch it as it was only touched by workers dressed as if they were in an operating room. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > Some of the remarks Joe in the paper from the family members are, their > Loved ones got to fulfill their dreams of making it to space. With that in > mind and looking for the positives in the situation. I think we have to be > pleased for them and it is something for their families to hold on to. Would > have been great to have been that close to the spacecraft. We were in > Florida in 1989, but didn't have a clue how much time was needed to see all > the sites and didn't get to see that area unfortunately. > > Australia had an interest in the Columbia, as children from a school in > victoria, had been doing a science project which involved sending spiders > into space inside of the Columbia. Think it was an experiment to see how > strong the spider webs were. I am sure there was more to it. It will be in > the newspapers somewhere. They had been working on the project for 4 years. > So a huge disappointment for them and I suppose those children will be > affected emotionally by the Spacecraft exploding with all those lives lost. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Armstrong" <gateshead8@gateshead8.free-online.co.uk> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:32 AM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > Dear Armstrongs, > > > > As a young laddie I was regarded as a bit of a nut as we used to say. > Why? > > because I read those crazy tales of men travelling into space that's why. > > > > Well, we lived to see it come true, and no doubt all the mockers would be > > saying how they knew all along that it was likely! (#}:0)) > > > > It came many years, indeed decades, before I really expected it. As a > boy > > it seemed that if I lived to be a very old man it might just come about > > before I died. In the event I was a relatively young man when it happened > > that 'Our Niel' stepped on the Moon. > > > > All told there have been 24 dramatic deaths which, although they cause > > eternal grief to the families concerned, bring glory to the nation and the > > people who devised and carried out the whole space programme. > > > > It seems an awful thing to say but when you consider the enormity of what > > has been achieved this appears to be a modest price to pay. > > > > Look at the history of flight, look at the history of the motor car. All > > have their martyrs and victims, they still do. > > > > In this region on New Year's Eve a crazy unstoppable car thief with 92 > > convictions mowed down a family killing the six year old daughter and > > severely injuring her younger sister. > > > > This; 130 years after the motor was invented! It puts the tragedy of > > yesterday into perspective. > > > > Even bearing in mind all those men who died in the experiments with > > aircraft leading to the development of spacecraft it is still a model of > > caution in the making of Man's greatest adventure. > > > > On March 27th 2001 Rita and I went with Gerri and Fount Armstrong > > to the hangar where the shuttles are serviced, led by Dennis Armstrong > > of N.A.S.A. > > > > Here a quote from my journal for that day; > > > > "We went into hangar 2 the one where Columbia is being readied. > > What a thrill to stand under that huge wing, only feet overhead. > > A woman was doing something just inside the door at the nosecone. > > Others did jobs on other parts. We are not allowed to touch it but the > > thought came to me I was standing in the front of a vehicle that has > > many times been in space. We were all overawed by the occasion." > > > > That wonder has not diminished, it is indeed a high adventure. > > > > The Columbia crew are dead, but, > > > > The Dream Is Alive! > > > > Joe Armstrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Some of the remarks Joe in the paper from the family members are, their Loved ones got to fulfill their dreams of making it to space. With that in mind and looking for the positives in the situation. I think we have to be pleased for them and it is something for their families to hold on to. Would have been great to have been that close to the spacecraft. We were in Florida in 1989, but didn't have a clue how much time was needed to see all the sites and didn't get to see that area unfortunately. Australia had an interest in the Columbia, as children from a school in victoria, had been doing a science project which involved sending spiders into space inside of the Columbia. Think it was an experiment to see how strong the spider webs were. I am sure there was more to it. It will be in the newspapers somewhere. They had been working on the project for 4 years. So a huge disappointment for them and I suppose those children will be affected emotionally by the Spacecraft exploding with all those lives lost. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Armstrong" <gateshead8@gateshead8.free-online.co.uk> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:32 AM Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > Dear Armstrongs, > > As a young laddie I was regarded as a bit of a nut as we used to say. Why? > because I read those crazy tales of men travelling into space that's why. > > Well, we lived to see it come true, and no doubt all the mockers would be > saying how they knew all along that it was likely! (#}:0)) > > It came many years, indeed decades, before I really expected it. As a boy > it seemed that if I lived to be a very old man it might just come about > before I died. In the event I was a relatively young man when it happened > that 'Our Niel' stepped on the Moon. > > All told there have been 24 dramatic deaths which, although they cause > eternal grief to the families concerned, bring glory to the nation and the > people who devised and carried out the whole space programme. > > It seems an awful thing to say but when you consider the enormity of what > has been achieved this appears to be a modest price to pay. > > Look at the history of flight, look at the history of the motor car. All > have their martyrs and victims, they still do. > > In this region on New Year's Eve a crazy unstoppable car thief with 92 > convictions mowed down a family killing the six year old daughter and > severely injuring her younger sister. > > This; 130 years after the motor was invented! It puts the tragedy of > yesterday into perspective. > > Even bearing in mind all those men who died in the experiments with > aircraft leading to the development of spacecraft it is still a model of > caution in the making of Man's greatest adventure. > > On March 27th 2001 Rita and I went with Gerri and Fount Armstrong > to the hangar where the shuttles are serviced, led by Dennis Armstrong > of N.A.S.A. > > Here a quote from my journal for that day; > > "We went into hangar 2 the one where Columbia is being readied. > What a thrill to stand under that huge wing, only feet overhead. > A woman was doing something just inside the door at the nosecone. > Others did jobs on other parts. We are not allowed to touch it but the > thought came to me I was standing in the front of a vehicle that has > many times been in space. We were all overawed by the occasion." > > That wonder has not diminished, it is indeed a high adventure. > > The Columbia crew are dead, but, > > The Dream Is Alive! > > Joe Armstrong > > > > > > > >

Linda, I'm so sorry to hear that your husband is ill. I must have missed your message when you first mentioned it. (When my sister died, there was a lot of mail that I didn't get read. There's still some that I downloaded, but that I haven't gotten around to reading yet. But I am very glad to hear that you're feeling better. I know it's been a very long road for you. Take care of yourself, as well as your husband! Barb in MO

Dear Armstrongs, As a young laddie I was regarded as a bit of a nut as we used to say. Why? because I read those crazy tales of men travelling into space that's why. Well, we lived to see it come true, and no doubt all the mockers would be saying how they knew all along that it was likely! (#}:0)) It came many years, indeed decades, before I really expected it. As a boy it seemed that if I lived to be a very old man it might just come about before I died. In the event I was a relatively young man when it happened that 'Our Niel' stepped on the Moon. All told there have been 24 dramatic deaths which, although they cause eternal grief to the families concerned, bring glory to the nation and the people who devised and carried out the whole space programme. It seems an awful thing to say but when you consider the enormity of what has been achieved this appears to be a modest price to pay. Look at the history of flight, look at the history of the motor car. All have their martyrs and victims, they still do. In this region on New Year's Eve a crazy unstoppable car thief with 92 convictions mowed down a family killing the six year old daughter and severely injuring her younger sister. This; 130 years after the motor was invented! It puts the tragedy of yesterday into perspective. Even bearing in mind all those men who died in the experiments with aircraft leading to the development of spacecraft it is still a model of caution in the making of Man's greatest adventure. On March 27th 2001 Rita and I went with Gerri and Fount Armstrong to the hangar where the shuttles are serviced, led by Dennis Armstrong of N.A.S.A. Here a quote from my journal for that day; "We went into hangar 2 the one where Columbia is being readied. What a thrill to stand under that huge wing, only feet overhead. A woman was doing something just inside the door at the nosecone. Others did jobs on other parts. We are not allowed to touch it but the thought came to me I was standing in the front of a vehicle that has many times been in space. We were all overawed by the occasion." That wonder has not diminished, it is indeed a high adventure. The Columbia crew are dead, but, The Dream Is Alive! Joe Armstrong

Thank you Joe for your comments and insight. My father, Don Armstrong, knew at the age of 8, in 1927, that he wanted to fly and be a test pilot. He lived that dream and was a test pilot for 13+ years, and lived, by the grace of God, through many harrowing experiences. (He eventually put this into a book, I FLEW THEM FIRST, A TEST PILOT"S STORY.) His only regret was being born too early to be a part of the space program. He talked about the thrill and the price of testing. He followed each launch with a prayer and an awareness of the possibilities. But, oh, he wanted to go! My reaction upon hearing about the disaster was that these astronauts died doing what they dreamed of doing, and as when my daddy died at the age of 80, that they could now soar with the angels. Their dream will continue to live. The possibility of death and disaster will not deter those who dream of flight and space. Terry Armstrong Stanley FLorida

Hi We hear with regret this morning about the Columbus disintergrating on its approach to earth. When are we going to hear some good news. We saw the parents of Captain David Brown give an interview. His mother is a very strong lady. My heart goes out to them having three grown up sons of my own. At least she fully understood that it was what their son wanted to do, so maybe she will find some consolation in knowing that their boy died what he loved doing, as I am sure they all did. We also had a tragedy only days before when a train crashed on the Sydney to Prt Kembla,NSW, Australia run, early in the morning. For some reason it sped up just before the crash. Wouldn't you know it, the black box installed only a fortnight ago, was non operational, so no clues to be found there and the investigation into the crash is ongoing. 9 People, including the driver, four men and two woman were amongst those killed. We just seemed to get bad news. I was saying to my husband this morning. Each newspaper should have a journalist who just report on good news and miracles, then we could look forward to the good news of each day and hopefully it would out weigh the bad news. I am sure in this day and age, newspapers would still sell with good news. Edie

Guess several of us still relate to juggling home & work... :) J

Hey Cuzzins, Thanks for all the words of encouagement for my husband. He is doing fine. We just have made a lot of adjustments! For all you long time listers, I am walking much better after my car accidnet in 97 . IT has taken 5 years, but I am up! Can't keep an Armstrong woman down for long! <grin> sincerely, Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dickson, Tucker, Robertson, Armstrong, Ricker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kQB.2ACIB/2578 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information concerning Pearl Armstrong, who married George Robertson. I believe that they lived in/around Manassas, Virginia. George Robertson died July 19, 1959. Pearl Armstrong Robertson died in 1943. Their son, Charles Robertson, married Marie Tucker, possibly in D.C.? Charles was born 11/8/1913. Marie was born 11/28/1918. They lived in Manassas, VA. Their daughter married a Dickson; they lived in Maryland. I have no other information at present. Anything at all would be welcome. Thank you. Lisa