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    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Viruses and stuff
    2. How does one know that their computer blocked a virus? I have had numerous messages, with no message in sight. Only 'details' shows, and I guess I am supposed to click on that, but I don't

    02/09/2003 01:50:43
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Re: Edith Frame Armstrong
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/2098.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Laura: I don't think there's a connection but if you find one would love to hear back from you. Good Luck with your searches, Alma

    02/09/2003 01:15:54
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Armstrongs in Collin Co. TX
    2. gary & jill johnston
    3. I just found out that some of my Armstrongs are in Texas, possibly 'masquerading' under the name Narragon, by marriage. :-) Jill __________________ "Gypsy gold does not chink and glitter. It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark." Gypsy saying

    02/08/2003 08:22:49
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus
    2. Clemi
    3. Hi Edie ... I imagine you did receive a virus. Rootsweb will not allow attachments to go through ... ever. Most of the virus/worms out there fake the headers. Some viruses do not have an attachment which is troublesome. The latest ones are especially nasty as they can replicate, mutate and continue to not only do various kinds of damage in your PC, but will activate periodically, do further damage plus send themselves out to people in your address book or to those whose messages you have saved. They are also capable of including bits and pieces of messages and subject lines and sending those forth. Before a virus can enter my machine it must get past my provider which uses a good AV, then through MailWasher (a free program through which I can read, delete or bounce any message), ZoneAlarm (free, too) which has caught virii (but primarily keeps my computer in steath mode when I'm online preventing data from either being put on or removed) and Norton 2003 which automatically goes for any updates each time I'm online. I love Norton 2003. It's the fourth by that company I've used and is the best by far. You should get an external scan run right away just to make sure and keep your AV updated. Once a week is not enough. Daily is best though I've had as many as three updates in a single day when a new virus has been unleashed. As always ... if anyone needs the URLs to those free programs, I'll be happy to send them. I wouldn't get online without ZoneAlarm and I enjoy being able to bounce spam back with MailWasher, when it's sent from a valid address, that is. Good luck! clemi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus > Hi Everyone, > I think I received a virus this morning. The address was ARMSTRONG-L and the subject datetimeelements with a paperclup, I clicked once and found what I have recognised before as being a virus symbol co I deleted. I have never had the Armstrong in the address on the left hand side before, it is always in the subject area. Did anyone else get this. > > Edie > > ______________________________

    02/08/2003 07:34:20
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle
    2. Clemi
    3. Hi A*s ... A sultana is a pale yellow dry seedless grape used for raisens and wine. You should be able to find it next to the box of dark raisens ... just look for the picture of yellow raisens. They are very good. A subtle difference. Capsicum is a generic name for pepper plants and can be sweet or hot. Remember Capsaicin (a derivative of capsicum) is the main ingredient in the many authritis ointments rubbed on sore joints. You can tell because they warn you not to rub your eyes until after you wash your hands thoroughly. So whether it's a Bell Pepper or a Habanero, you're eating capsicum, but the real health benefits come from the hotties. Pine nuts are not at all difficult to find. Let your fingers do the walking. However, also look for pinon nuts for they are one and the same. The last I bought was in a plastic bag about 3"x 4" and an 1" thick. If you find you have to buy more than needed, they freeze well. Roast as many as needed and freeze the rest of the raw ones. If you roast all, you can keep them in a jar in the fridge and use in salads, breads or even toss a handful as you mix a meatloaf. If you have a good grocery store, look near the real Mexican food ingredients. If the grocer won't order them for you and all else fails, go online. As usual, clemi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > Edie, > Well, I never cease to learn! > I guess raisins will have to do. > Over here a deli just serves sandwiches and such. > Fount > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > I have just noticed sultanas. I looked into the Pennysylvannia, Dutch > > Cooking book I bought in the USA and not one sultana mentioned in the Cake > > pages. I was so surprised. They are as common as dirt here. I will have > > to find out what dried fruit they are. They are the size between a Raisin > > (dried grape) and currant (black currant. They are a light brown in > colour > > and sweet like the other two and are one of our main ingredients when > making > > cakes. In the dictionary it say a sultans wife or type of raisin. Tht is > > the best I can do. > > You could most likely chop up some raisins and get almost the same affect > or > > again try the deli, they normally specialise in overseas cuisine. > > > > Edie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate > Trifle > > > > > > > OK Edie, > > > What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? > > > Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. > > > Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. > > > I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! > > > Fount > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM > > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't heard > > for > > > or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > > > > > > > Slymslaw > > > > Serves 12 > > > > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > > > > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > > > > 1 small onion finely sliced > > > > 1 cup grated carrot > > > > 1 cup sliced celery > > > > 1cup sliced mushrooms > > > > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted > > ones. > > > > 1 apple diced (skin on) > > > > one third cup sultanas > > > > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > > > > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > > > > Salt and Pepper taste > > > > > > > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill until > > > browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to cool. > > > Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > > > > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. > > > Refrigerate till required. > > > > > > > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > > > > 100g plain chocolate sponge > > > > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > > > > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > > > > 60 ml port or sherry > > > > > > > > CUSTARD MIX > > > > 2 cups skim milk > > > > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > > > > 3 level tablespoons sugar > > > > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > > > > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > > > > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the > custard > > > mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk > stirring > > > constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > > > > > > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and > place > > > around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then > place > > > drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge > > until > > > both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is > > > mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > > > > > > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You can > > view > > > the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. > There > > > are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made > with > > > low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms > > They > > > are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 > > > Australian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________

    02/08/2003 05:34:19
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Armstrongs in Collin Co. TX
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Armstrong, Kinser, Frazier Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kQB.2ACIB/2583 Message Board Post: I am interested in contacting descendants of Isaac B. Armstrong and wife Lydia Kinser. Also brother Joseph Armstrong and wife Martha Frazier. They came from E. Tenn. around 1880 and settled in the Forest Grove and Allen areas of Collin Co. TX. Isaac and Lydia's children were: Anderson, Sarah, John, Elbert, Stokely, and Mary Sarepta (married a Snider). Joseph and Martha's children were: Susan, Robert, Emma, Thomas and Francis. Isaac's family is buried in the Fitzhugh Cemetery and Joseph's in the Allen Cemetery. I have lots of info to share.

    02/08/2003 04:32:10
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. Edie, I hope he does see it. I started to write him but wasn't sure that's what the problem was but since you recieved the same thing, it must be the problem. This is the first server I've had that blocked a virus. I use Roadrunner, which is used by Warner Cable here in FL. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus > He will most likely see your message Fount, but would have been unaware, if > he had a virus. My server doesn't toss the viruses. I wished they did, > would be very helpful. > > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:42 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus > > > > Edie, > > It appears that my server tossed out a message addressed to the List from > > Joe Armstrong. Maybe someone sent him a virus and it's in his e mail? > > Fount > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:46 PM > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I think I received a virus this morning. The address was ARMSTRONG-L > and > > the subject datetimeelements with a paperclup, I clicked once and found > what > > I have recognised before as being a virus symbol co I deleted. I have > never > > had the Armstrong in the address on the left hand side before, it is > always > > in the subject area. Did anyone else get this. > > > > > > Edie > > > > > > > > > > > >

    02/08/2003 04:28:27
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. Edie, It appears that my server tossed out a message addressed to the List from Joe Armstrong. Maybe someone sent him a virus and it's in his e mail? Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Virus > Hi Everyone, > I think I received a virus this morning. The address was ARMSTRONG-L and the subject datetimeelements with a paperclup, I clicked once and found what I have recognised before as being a virus symbol co I deleted. I have never had the Armstrong in the address on the left hand side before, it is always in the subject area. Did anyone else get this. > > Edie > >

    02/08/2003 03:42:51
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. Edie, I see pine nuts used on the Cooking Channel and have looked for them but most of the super markets here in the South carry mostly soul food. The choice is mainly made wheather to buy Tabasco or LA Hot Sauce! # :-)) Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > Not even the deli Fount. I buy the pine nuts in packets. They are in our > cake cooking section. Or if you have a Santitarium shelf they could be > there. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:52 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > OK Edie, > > Now, I'm ready to try the recipes! > > Thanks, Fount > > PS, I've never been able to find pine nuts in any of the supermarkets > here. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate > Trifle > > > > > > > Fount, I think you may refer to them as Red Peppers. They are Green, or > > Red > > > or even a orangy colour and are more round. They are very different > from > > > the hot chillies. I love them and can ea them raw no problem. > > > The pine nuts I buy are in a packet. You can buy them already roasted > or > > > raw. They resember the shape of a gratefruit or apple and are white. > You > > > may have to go to the delicateasen to find them if your local > supermarket > > do > > > not stock them or maybe a chinese supermarket. As in the Trifle our > Jelly > > > crystals would be your Jello. In England I remember they used to sell > it > > in > > > Jelly cubes, but here they sell in crystals though it may have come the > > > other way years before. > > > Our measurements are metric. 250g is about 8 ounces. 125g about 4 ounces > > and > > > so on. > > > > > > Edie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate > > Trifle > > > > > > > > > > OK Edie, > > > > What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? > > > > Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. > > > > Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. > > > > I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! > > > > Fount > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM > > > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate > Trifle > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't > heard > > > for > > > > or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > > > > > > > > > Slymslaw > > > > > Serves 12 > > > > > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > > > > > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > > > > > 1 small onion finely sliced > > > > > 1 cup grated carrot > > > > > 1 cup sliced celery > > > > > 1cup sliced mushrooms > > > > > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted > > > ones. > > > > > 1 apple diced (skin on) > > > > > one third cup sultanas > > > > > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > > > > > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > > > > > Salt and Pepper taste > > > > > > > > > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill > until > > > > browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to > cool. > > > > Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > > > > > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. > > > > Refrigerate till required. > > > > > > > > > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > > > > > 100g plain chocolate sponge > > > > > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > > > > > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > > > > > 60 ml port or sherry > > > > > > > > > > CUSTARD MIX > > > > > 2 cups skim milk > > > > > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > > > > > 3 level tablespoons sugar > > > > > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > > > > > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > > > > > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the > > custard > > > > mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk > > stirring > > > > constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > > > > > > > > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and > > place > > > > around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then > > place > > > > drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge > > > until > > > > both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is > > > > mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > > > > > > > > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You > can > > > view > > > > the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. > > There > > > > are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made > > with > > > > low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms > > > They > > > > are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 > > > > Australian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    02/08/2003 03:39:17
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. Edie, Looks like they were doomed from the start, if the foam was the problem, as there was really nothing anyone could have done anyway. The tiles appear to be the weakest part of the shuttle. They told us that even a finger print could cause a tile to over heat and burn up. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > I was wondering Fount if the crew would have been told about the foam > dropping off the craft or would they have been kept in the dark about this. > Had they known, it would have made them very nervous since they couldn't fix > it. I see they are looking for a top secret piece from the Columbus. > Edie > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > To: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:58 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > Edie, > > I guess people forget how many things can go wrong on a shuttle mission. > > There isn't much of a chance to fix what goes wrong while in space or > taking > > off or landing. > > They told us, while at the Space Center, that when the shuttle is > launched, > > there is more energy used than the atom bomb that blew up when we bombed > > Japan. > > Fount > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > You have some insight as to what the Spacecraft looked like and know > what > > > they are talking about when they say about the tiles and other parts > that > > > fell off. > > > > > > It is so far away, but you cannot still help feeling for those poor > > > astronauts adn their families. Then there are the families of the > > students > > > who have perished in that avalanche in British Columibia. You just > don't > > > think it can happen to you, but it does. > > > > > > Edie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:31 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > > > > Edie, > > > > > > > > We live about 25 miles south of the Cape and stood in our yard and > > watched > > > > the lift off of Columbia, never dreaming that it and its crew would > > never > > > > land. > > > > On the morning it was to land, we were to pick up my wife's niece's > > family > > > > from a cruse with the St Louis Cardinals and we left a few minutes > early > > > so > > > > as to watch the Columbia land. I waited for the sonic boom that rocks > > our > > > > house when a shuttle comes in and expected a really loud one from > where > > > were > > > > waiting and nothing happened. I searched the sky, along with thousands > > of > > > > others, who waited on roadsides and beaches and nothing was to be > seen. > > > > We had our radio on a station that was covering the landing and > dreaded > > > > reports started coming in. We knew there was to be no landing. People > > > stayed > > > > in the area looking at the sky and then looking at each other and > slowly > > > > getting in their cars as if they didn't know what to do. > > > > The Columbia was the shuttle that Denis Armstrong took some of us > > > Armstrongs > > > > inside the building where they were preparing her for an earlier > flight > > > and > > > > workers were replacing damaged tiles and had it opened up and we could > > see > > > > inside and marvel at the size of it. We couldn't touch it as it was > only > > > > touched by workers dressed as if they were in an operating room. > > > > Fount > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:16 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the remarks Joe in the paper from the family members are, > > their > > > > > Loved ones got to fulfill their dreams of making it to space. With > > that > > > > in > > > > > mind and looking for the positives in the situation. I think we > have > > to > > > > be > > > > > pleased for them and it is something for their families to hold on > to. > > > > Would > > > > > have been great to have been that close to the spacecraft. We were > in > > > > > Florida in 1989, but didn't have a clue how much time was needed to > > see > > > > all > > > > > the sites and didn't get to see that area unfortunately. > > > > > > > > > > Australia had an interest in the Columbia, as children from a school > > in > > > > > victoria, had been doing a science project which involved sending > > > spiders > > > > > into space inside of the Columbia. Think it was an experiment to > see > > > how > > > > > strong the spider webs were. I am sure there was more to it. It > will > > be > > > > in > > > > > the newspapers somewhere. They had been working on the project for > 4 > > > > years. > > > > > So a huge disappointment for them and I suppose those children will > be > > > > > affected emotionally by the Spacecraft exploding with all those > lives > > > > lost. > > > > > Edie > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Joe Armstrong" <gateshead8@gateshead8.free-online.co.uk> > > > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:32 AM > > > > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Armstrongs, > > > > > > > > > > > > As a young laddie I was regarded as a bit of a nut as we used to > > say. > > > > > Why? > > > > > > because I read those crazy tales of men travelling into space > that's > > > > why. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, we lived to see it come true, and no doubt all the mockers > > > would > > > > be > > > > > > saying how they knew all along that it was likely! (#}:0)) > > > > > > > > > > > > It came many years, indeed decades, before I really expected it. > > As > > > a > > > > > boy > > > > > > it seemed that if I lived to be a very old man it might just come > > > about > > > > > > before I died. In the event I was a relatively young man when it > > > > happened > > > > > > that 'Our Niel' stepped on the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > All told there have been 24 dramatic deaths which, although they > > > cause > > > > > > eternal grief to the families concerned, bring glory to the nation > > and > > > > the > > > > > > people who devised and carried out the whole space programme. > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems an awful thing to say but when you consider the enormity > > of > > > > what > > > > > > has been achieved this appears to be a modest price to pay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Look at the history of flight, look at the history of the motor > > car. > > > > All > > > > > > have their martyrs and victims, they still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > In this region on New Year's Eve a crazy unstoppable car thief > with > > > 92 > > > > > > convictions mowed down a family killing the six year old daughter > > and > > > > > > severely injuring her younger sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > This; 130 years after the motor was invented! It puts the > tragedy > > of > > > > > > yesterday into perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even bearing in mind all those men who died in the experiments > with > > > > > > aircraft leading to the development of spacecraft it is still a > > model > > > of > > > > > > caution in the making of Man's greatest adventure. > > > > > > > > > > > > On March 27th 2001 Rita and I went with Gerri and Fount Armstrong > > > > > > to the hangar where the shuttles are serviced, led by Dennis > > Armstrong > > > > > > of N.A.S.A. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here a quote from my journal for that day; > > > > > > > > > > > > "We went into hangar 2 the one where Columbia is being readied. > > > > > > What a thrill to stand under that huge wing, only feet overhead. > > > > > > A woman was doing something just inside the door at the nosecone. > > > > > > Others did jobs on other parts. We are not allowed to touch it > but > > > the > > > > > > thought came to me I was standing in the front of a vehicle that > has > > > > > > many times been in space. We were all overawed by the occasion." > > > > > > > > > > > > That wonder has not diminished, it is indeed a high adventure. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Columbia crew are dead, but, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Dream Is Alive! > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe Armstrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    02/08/2003 03:35:05
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Non-gen:25 things
    2. > 25 things you should have learned by now: > > 1. If you're too open-minded, your brains will fall out. > > 2. Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. > > 3. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than > >      standing  in a garage makes you a car. > > 4. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. > > 5. If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never > >     tried before. > > 6. My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance. > > 7. Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious. > > 8. It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. > > 9. For every action, there is an equal and opposite government program. > > 10. If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip. > > 11. Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks. > > 12. A conscience is what hurts when all of your other parts feel so good. > > 13. Eat well, stay fit, and die anyway. > > 14. Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. > > 15. No man has ever been shot while doing the dishes. > > 16. A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. > > 17. Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of > >       the waist change places. > > 18. Opportunities always look bigger going than coming. > > 19. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away > >       three weeks before you need it. > > 20. There is always one more imbecile than you counted on. > > 21. Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a >       mistake when you make it again. > > 22. By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends. > > 23. Thou shalt not weigh more than thy refrigerator. > > 24. Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast > >        to the real world. > > 25. It ain't the jeans that make your rear look fat. > >

    02/08/2003 11:16:40
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. Edie, I guess people forget how many things can go wrong on a shuttle mission. There isn't much of a chance to fix what goes wrong while in space or taking off or landing. They told us, while at the Space Center, that when the shuttle is launched, there is more energy used than the atom bomb that blew up when we bombed Japan. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > You have some insight as to what the Spacecraft looked like and know what > they are talking about when they say about the tiles and other parts that > fell off. > > It is so far away, but you cannot still help feeling for those poor > astronauts adn their families. Then there are the families of the students > who have perished in that avalanche in British Columibia. You just don't > think it can happen to you, but it does. > > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > Edie, > > > > We live about 25 miles south of the Cape and stood in our yard and watched > > the lift off of Columbia, never dreaming that it and its crew would never > > land. > > On the morning it was to land, we were to pick up my wife's niece's family > > from a cruse with the St Louis Cardinals and we left a few minutes early > so > > as to watch the Columbia land. I waited for the sonic boom that rocks our > > house when a shuttle comes in and expected a really loud one from where > were > > waiting and nothing happened. I searched the sky, along with thousands of > > others, who waited on roadsides and beaches and nothing was to be seen. > > We had our radio on a station that was covering the landing and dreaded > > reports started coming in. We knew there was to be no landing. People > stayed > > in the area looking at the sky and then looking at each other and slowly > > getting in their cars as if they didn't know what to do. > > The Columbia was the shuttle that Denis Armstrong took some of us > Armstrongs > > inside the building where they were preparing her for an earlier flight > and > > workers were replacing damaged tiles and had it opened up and we could see > > inside and marvel at the size of it. We couldn't touch it as it was only > > touched by workers dressed as if they were in an operating room. > > Fount > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > Some of the remarks Joe in the paper from the family members are, their > > > Loved ones got to fulfill their dreams of making it to space. With that > > in > > > mind and looking for the positives in the situation. I think we have to > > be > > > pleased for them and it is something for their families to hold on to. > > Would > > > have been great to have been that close to the spacecraft. We were in > > > Florida in 1989, but didn't have a clue how much time was needed to see > > all > > > the sites and didn't get to see that area unfortunately. > > > > > > Australia had an interest in the Columbia, as children from a school in > > > victoria, had been doing a science project which involved sending > spiders > > > into space inside of the Columbia. Think it was an experiment to see > how > > > strong the spider webs were. I am sure there was more to it. It will be > > in > > > the newspapers somewhere. They had been working on the project for 4 > > years. > > > So a huge disappointment for them and I suppose those children will be > > > affected emotionally by the Spacecraft exploding with all those lives > > lost. > > > Edie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joe Armstrong" <gateshead8@gateshead8.free-online.co.uk> > > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:32 AM > > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Space > > > > > > > > > > Dear Armstrongs, > > > > > > > > As a young laddie I was regarded as a bit of a nut as we used to say. > > > Why? > > > > because I read those crazy tales of men travelling into space that's > > why. > > > > > > > > Well, we lived to see it come true, and no doubt all the mockers > would > > be > > > > saying how they knew all along that it was likely! (#}:0)) > > > > > > > > It came many years, indeed decades, before I really expected it. As > a > > > boy > > > > it seemed that if I lived to be a very old man it might just come > about > > > > before I died. In the event I was a relatively young man when it > > happened > > > > that 'Our Niel' stepped on the Moon. > > > > > > > > All told there have been 24 dramatic deaths which, although they > cause > > > > eternal grief to the families concerned, bring glory to the nation and > > the > > > > people who devised and carried out the whole space programme. > > > > > > > > It seems an awful thing to say but when you consider the enormity of > > what > > > > has been achieved this appears to be a modest price to pay. > > > > > > > > Look at the history of flight, look at the history of the motor car. > > All > > > > have their martyrs and victims, they still do. > > > > > > > > In this region on New Year's Eve a crazy unstoppable car thief with > 92 > > > > convictions mowed down a family killing the six year old daughter and > > > > severely injuring her younger sister. > > > > > > > > This; 130 years after the motor was invented! It puts the tragedy of > > > > yesterday into perspective. > > > > > > > > Even bearing in mind all those men who died in the experiments with > > > > aircraft leading to the development of spacecraft it is still a model > of > > > > caution in the making of Man's greatest adventure. > > > > > > > > On March 27th 2001 Rita and I went with Gerri and Fount Armstrong > > > > to the hangar where the shuttles are serviced, led by Dennis Armstrong > > > > of N.A.S.A. > > > > > > > > Here a quote from my journal for that day; > > > > > > > > "We went into hangar 2 the one where Columbia is being readied. > > > > What a thrill to stand under that huge wing, only feet overhead. > > > > A woman was doing something just inside the door at the nosecone. > > > > Others did jobs on other parts. We are not allowed to touch it but > the > > > > thought came to me I was standing in the front of a vehicle that has > > > > many times been in space. We were all overawed by the occasion." > > > > > > > > That wonder has not diminished, it is indeed a high adventure. > > > > > > > > The Columbia crew are dead, but, > > > > > > > > The Dream Is Alive! > > > > > > > > Joe Armstrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    02/08/2003 05:58:21
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. OK Edie, Now, I'm ready to try the recipes! Thanks, Fount PS, I've never been able to find pine nuts in any of the supermarkets here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > Fount, I think you may refer to them as Red Peppers. They are Green, or Red > or even a orangy colour and are more round. They are very different from > the hot chillies. I love them and can ea them raw no problem. > The pine nuts I buy are in a packet. You can buy them already roasted or > raw. They resember the shape of a gratefruit or apple and are white. You > may have to go to the delicateasen to find them if your local supermarket do > not stock them or maybe a chinese supermarket. As in the Trifle our Jelly > crystals would be your Jello. In England I remember they used to sell it in > Jelly cubes, but here they sell in crystals though it may have come the > other way years before. > Our measurements are metric. 250g is about 8 ounces. 125g about 4 ounces and > so on. > > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:41 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > OK Edie, > > What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? > > Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. > > Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. > > I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! > > Fount > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > > > > Hi > > > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't heard > for > > or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > > > > > Slymslaw > > > Serves 12 > > > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > > > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > > > 1 small onion finely sliced > > > 1 cup grated carrot > > > 1 cup sliced celery > > > 1cup sliced mushrooms > > > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted > ones. > > > 1 apple diced (skin on) > > > one third cup sultanas > > > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > > > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > > > Salt and Pepper taste > > > > > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill until > > browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to cool. > > Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > > > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. > > Refrigerate till required. > > > > > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > > > 100g plain chocolate sponge > > > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > > > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > > > 60 ml port or sherry > > > > > > CUSTARD MIX > > > 2 cups skim milk > > > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > > > 3 level tablespoons sugar > > > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > > > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > > > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the custard > > mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk stirring > > constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > > > > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and place > > around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then place > > drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge > until > > both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is > > mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > > > > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You can > view > > the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. There > > are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made with > > low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms > They > > are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 > > Australian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    02/08/2003 05:52:42
    1. Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle
    2. Fount Armstrong
    3. Edie, Well, I never cease to learn! I guess raisins will have to do. Over here a deli just serves sandwiches and such. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> To: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com>; <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > I have just noticed sultanas. I looked into the Pennysylvannia, Dutch > Cooking book I bought in the USA and not one sultana mentioned in the Cake > pages. I was so surprised. They are as common as dirt here. I will have > to find out what dried fruit they are. They are the size between a Raisin > (dried grape) and currant (black currant. They are a light brown in colour > and sweet like the other two and are one of our main ingredients when making > cakes. In the dictionary it say a sultans wife or type of raisin. Tht is > the best I can do. > You could most likely chop up some raisins and get almost the same affect or > again try the deli, they normally specialise in overseas cuisine. > > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <farmstrong3@cfl.rr.com> > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:41 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > OK Edie, > > What is a Capsicum and what are sultanas? > > Hey, I eat low fat food so the mayo would just fit in. > > Next, to find a store that sells pine nuts. > > I am seeing some strange and wonderful recipes!!! > > Fount > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <robmc@our.net.au> > > To: <ARMSTRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:58 PM > > Subject: [ARMSTRONG-L] Cyber Party recipe, Coleslaw and Chocolate Trifle > > > > > > > Hi > > > Well, I tried to get permission for these recipes, but I haven't heard > for > > or against using them so here goes. They are very good. > > > > > > Slymslaw > > > Serves 12 > > > Quarter Cabbage thinly sliced > > > 1 cup diced red Capsicum > > > 1 small onion finely sliced > > > 1 cup grated carrot > > > 1 cup sliced celery > > > 1cup sliced mushrooms > > > quarter cup pine nuts (roasted) I think you can also buy the roasted > ones. > > > 1 apple diced (skin on) > > > one third cup sultanas > > > Half cup 97% fat free mayonnaise > > > 1 level teaspoon curry powder ( or to taste) > > > Salt and Pepper taste > > > > > > Spread pine nuts (to roast) on a baking tray, place under grill until > > browned on both sides (be careful as they burn quickly), leave to cool. > > Stir curry powder into mayonnaise.. > > > In a large mixing bowl place all ingredients and mix together well. > > Refrigerate till required. > > > > > > Chocolate Trifle Serves 8 > > > 100g plain chocolate sponge > > > 1 pkt dark cherry low joule jelly crystals > > > 1 X 425g can pitted cherries > > > 60 ml port or sherry > > > > > > CUSTARD MIX > > > 2 cups skim milk > > > 2 level tablespoons custard p[owder > > > 3 level tablespoons sugar > > > 1 level tablespoon cocoa > > > half level teaspoon vanilla essence > > > Make Jelly up as directed on packet, refrigerate. Place all the custard > > mix ingredients into a meduium size saucepan, blend with a whisk stirring > > constantly until mixture boils, leave to cool slightly. > > > > > > Drain cherries and cut in half. Cut sponge into small pieces and place > > around base and edge of a deep bowl. Sprinkle port over sponge then place > > drained cherries on top. Pour custard over cherries. Place in fridge > until > > both custard and jelly has set then mash jelly with a fork until it is > > mushy, spread evenly over top of custard. Refrigerate until required. > > > > > > The recipes in the book tells the nutritional value as well. You can > view > > the website of the Lady who creates these recipes with her husband. There > > are so great recipes in her three books. All the old favourites made with > > low fat ingredients. www.symplytoogood.com.au Her name is Annette Syms > They > > are Australian books and you can purchase on line. They cost $11.00 > > Australian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    02/08/2003 03:30:49
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] ARMSTRONG_Ronnie_G_Sr_and_M_Virginia.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ARMSTRONG Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/2582 Message Board Post: I photographed this tombstone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your records. This is one of the 33,859 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    02/07/2003 07:21:29
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] ARMSTRONG_George_and_Lavaughn.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ARMSTRONG Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/2581 Message Board Post: I photographed this tombstone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your records. This is one of the 33,859 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    02/07/2003 07:21:06
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Re: Edith Frame Armstrong
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: mccormick,mcfarland,armstrong Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/2098.1 Message Board Post: Hi,I have a sarah cathrine armstrong marr: to james mcfarland any connection to your too??? thanks for your time.---lkr

    02/07/2003 11:09:18
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Re: Elizabeth Armstrong
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kQB.2ACIB/1311.1465.1468.1 Message Board Post: Yes, Lois this is Samuel's sister, Elizabeth who married Henry Freas/Freese/Freeze, and I believe you are both a Smothers and a Feasel. Email me direct. I have your recent notes to Bill and Phyllis Humes in Green Springs. We are all doing the same families.

    02/07/2003 06:47:05
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Re: John ARMSTRONG/Margaret McCORMICK
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: mccormick,mcfarland,schwasinger,armstrong Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/896.919 Message Board Post: Do you have any mcfarlands?? I have mcfarland. mccormick,armstrongs. my armstrong m: mcfarland,mccormick is my maiden name. at this time I don't have info on your question. SORRY!-----laura

    02/07/2003 04:43:53
    1. [ARMSTRONG-L] Re: Elizabeth Armstrong
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kQB.2ACIB/1311.1465.1468 Message Board Post: Would you guys be talking about Samuel Kindall Feasel b,29 Sep 1829? If so do you have anything on his sister Elizabeth b.1833/34? I believe my gr-gr-grandma Elizabeth Fees/Frease to be this women. They moved from Liberty Twp. Seneca Co. to Monore Twp. Henry Co. between the 1870/80 census. Any help you can give me will be greatly apprecated. Thank you Lois Stegal

    02/06/2003 04:21:26