Good by Marilyn Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors > I joined this list to, maybe, find information on my Armstrong ancestors. > Mostly I'm getting chit chat about spiders, apples, etc. What is going > on with the Armstrongs? It's really not a genealogy chat list from what > I've been reading. If it doesn't improve, I'll just unsub. > > Marylin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/06 > >

"It's really not a genealogy chat list from what I've been reading. If it doesn't improve, I'll just unsub." There's always one, isn't there? :(( Take care, Rob.

Listers, My Armstrongs (Mary Elizabeth) became Footes (Edward Judson Foote). Both were born in Digby, Digby Co, Nova Scotia, but married in Minnesota in 1871. Mary's parents were Charles Ansley/Ensley? Armstrong and Sibyl Chute (b. 13 Oct 1824 in Clements, Annapolis Co, Nova Scotia; d. 19 Aug 1919 in Raymond, Kandiyohi Co, MN). Does anyone have access to cemetery records in the Kandiyohi Co area? I'd really like to locate their graves and have pics, if possible. Jill in Washington state "Gypsy gold does not chink and glitter. It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark." Gypsy saying

Me, too! And when you have inquiries, Armstrongs are always willing to help. All you have to do is ask. Jill in Washington state ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Koch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors I rather enjoy the A* list above the rest of my surnames I'm > researching. > > Cherie

I joined this list to, maybe, find information on my Armstrong ancestors. Mostly I'm getting chit chat about spiders, apples, etc. What is going on with the Armstrongs? It's really not a genealogy chat list from what I've been reading. If it doesn't improve, I'll just unsub. Marylin

This has been a huge departure from the norm -- but I don't see anything wrong with it as this is one family that likes its family reunions even if the only place it can be held is online! I know you're new, but if you just hang in there, you'll most likely enjoy the list and the quality of the posts. Most of the time, it's pretty serious gen stuff. Every surname list is different, because every family is different. I rather enjoy the A* list above the rest of my surnames I'm researching. Cherie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors I joined this list to, maybe, find information on my Armstrong ancestors. Mostly I'm getting chit chat about spiders, apples, etc. What is going on with the Armstrongs? It's really not a genealogy chat list from what I've been reading. If it doesn't improve, I'll just unsub. Marylin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just do a web search for Genealogy and tee-shirts. You'll get lots of hit's but it's probably on the first page. Just look through them.... it's an experience by itself to see all the products. I don't remember the site URL and probably should not advertise on a list server anyway. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Robyn Leeds Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre "My wife wants me to get a tee-shirt that we saw on the web that says: "Genealogist: Disturbing the Dead and Annoying the Living." ROTFLMBO Where can I get one of those?!?!? That's priceless!!! :D Take care, Rob. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

AND.. if you buy Family Tree Maker, it only works with your Ancestry account, not genealogy.com. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Robyn Leeds Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] Fw: ships lists "I just tried to make this work and every search led to a "14-day free trial of Ancestry.com" I fell for that free thing again!" Genealogy.com is now owned by Ancestry.com Marilyn!! 'Tis easy to fall for it, I think we ALL have at one time or another! ;D Okay, here's an offer for ANY of you on the list ... I'm also a member of the Genealogy4Dummies mailing list. While we all claim to be "dummies", a few members have paid subscriptions and they're more than happy to do free lookups. We have at least 2 members with Ancestry memberships and at least one with a Genealogy.com membership. I'm more than happy to post any questions to the list and see if they can come up with anything for you, just give me whatever you can and I'll take care of the rest! :D Take care, Rob. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well Marilynn, Yes, I think that it might have been mentioned. One thing that the Southerners really tried to impress upon me was how good Grits were. I must say, that I did give it the old college try once. The grits were awful! There answer was that I didn't have them prepared right and I needed to salt, pepper and butter them...hmmmm...I don't think so. But in all fairness, I do love their ham biscuits and fried okra. Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have changed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > Gardner-Webb was started by my relatives. I had no idea they taught > English, the way they speak around here, but a lot of people go there and > seem to love it. And they don't talk funny after they graduate. Did they > try to get you to eat Liver Mush? > Marilynn > IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Barr" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head > > >> Marilynn, >> Are you living in Shelby? I finished my college education at >> Gardner-Webb College (now University) in 1980 with a degree in English. >> Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have turned. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:43 PM >> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head >> >> >>>I DID play Right Guard for the Green Bay Packers. You must have missed >>>it. >>> Could you concoct a recipe for Peacock Haggis? My daughter was once >>> married >>> to a Scotsman (didn't take. Irish tempers and Scottish tempers are a >>> volatile mixture) But he didn't like Haggis either. They have something >>> here >>> in Shelby, NC, which they think they invented but it is only >>> Philadelphia >>> Scrapple made south of Philly. NO, I don't eat that either. And don't >>> anybody write and tell me how good it was when mama made it for >>> breakfast >>> and served it with maple syrup. I'll take your word for it. >>> >>> I have a problem about where my loyalties lay. I am a MacAteer, a >>> MacIntyre, a Lamont (pronounced Lammit, dammit which became McClymont) >>> an >>> O'Cleirigh and a Loftus, plus an Irish Armstrong who probably wandered >>> over >>> the border. They all want me to wear THEIR pins etc. And who knows >>> what >>> Pryors are? Are my Gardners really Gordons? Very confusing. >>> Marilynn >>> IBSSG >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Thomas S. Fiske" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:59 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] chosen occupations? >>> >>> >>>> Dear RR, >>>> >>>> > >>>> In >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

"I just tried to make this work and every search led to a "14-day free trial of Ancestry.com" I fell for that free thing again!" Genealogy.com is now owned by Ancestry.com Marilyn!! 'Tis easy to fall for it, I think we ALL have at one time or another! ;D Okay, here's an offer for ANY of you on the list ... I'm also a member of the Genealogy4Dummies mailing list. While we all claim to be "dummies", a few members have paid subscriptions and they're more than happy to do free lookups. We have at least 2 members with Ancestry memberships and at least one with a Genealogy.com membership. I'm more than happy to post any questions to the list and see if they can come up with anything for you, just give me whatever you can and I'll take care of the rest! :D Take care, Rob.

"I hope he has an unusual name?" Often an unusual name doesn't help Marilyn! My BYNON lines are a classic example. I've got a William BYNON born 1845 in Caermarthenshire, Wales who migrated to Australia and married my Elizabeth ARMSTRONG in 1868. So theoretically he would've emigrated between 1845 and 1868, wouldn't he? Stands to reason!! Both William and Elizabeth ended up in Victoria, Australia, in fact they ended up in the goldfields of Bendigo, but do you think I can find William's shipping details?!?!? What really bugs me is that I have Elizabeth, mother Dorathy ARMSTRONG (nee WAUGH) and siblings arriving in Australia in 1860 on the Empire of Peace. How is it I can find an Armstrong (VERY common name) so easily, but not a Bynon (not that common, not in Australia anyway, unless they're related! lol)?!?!? Just goes to shoe having a spelling that's NOT that common isn't always a bonus!! ;D Take care, Rob.

"My wife wants me to get a tee-shirt that we saw on the web that says: "Genealogist: Disturbing the Dead and Annoying the Living." ROTFLMBO Where can I get one of those?!?!? That's priceless!!! :D Take care, Rob.

This is a somewhat related continuant of the private cemetery comment. Last summer, my dad & I took a genealogy trip back to Madison Co, Illinois (across the Mississippi River from St. Louis) and into the bootheel of SE Missouri (Bollinger, Stoddard, and Cape Girardeau counties, mostly). Let me tell you, there are LOTS of cemeteries, many of them private down there. We had to travel through a cow pasture to access one small, old plot. The cows had been in it and had knocked down several old stones. Story was that a son bought the property and decided to let the cows roam. When his mother found out what was going on, she pitched a hissy fit and sonny fenced the cemetery again. I hate to think what will happen once the mom dies and the her wishes have no defenders. But to give an idea of sheer numbers... An acquaintence of my dad's passed on while we were down there and we decided we'd go to the services. Now you need to know that my dad is very hearing impaired, even with hearing aids, so it comes as no surprise that he hadn't clearly heard the name of the cemetery, but he knew the day & time. He even knew the name of the road out of Puxico. I figured we were home free; we'd just leave a little early and we'd have time to find the cemetery. We found out that the road was only 10 miles long-- that's an important bit of info. Two hours late and three cemeteries later, we still hadn't found THE cemetery. That night, we called the friend; she told us the name of the cemetery, and we the next day we found it-- through no help from the Missouri road markers [but that's another rant]. But the friend also said that there was yet another cemetery (that we had not found) on that same road. So on a 10 mile road, there were AT LEAST five cemeteries!!! And that doesn't even touch the probability that there might be other, smaller ones in the area. I was astounded! Dad & I had a good laugh over that experience. Back on topic, though, we didn't have any trouble with private cem's. Cemeteries are regarded differently down there than up here. People seem to be EXPECTED to visit; graves are always decorated, even when there has been no holiday recently. Another thing is that most markers are the above-ground, genealogists' friends-- you know the kind: you can read 3 rows of stones from one position. Out here in western Washington, most cemeteries have required flush-mount stones from years due to maintenance concerns. BTW, although I was looking primarily for Stepp, Walker, Lloyd, and Fowler graves, I took digital pics of Armstrong graves even though I hadn't a clue whether they were 'mine'- so if anyone thinks they have a relative in that area, let me know and I'll see if I've got their grave. Jill in Washington state

Hey! I might be interested in one of those, too! Jill in Washington > > "My wife wants me to get a tee-shirt that we saw on the web that says: > "Genealogist: Disturbing the Dead and Annoying the Living."

Ken, I've had some problems in the past when I attempted to visit a cemetery on private property without permission. John W. Armstrong San Diego, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kQB.2ACIB/3482 Message Board Post: I found that the new services showing ariel views (photographs) of the land can be very useful in locating something like an old cemetery. One of my Armstrongs, John married a Jane Stone in Lexington KY in 1812. Her family had a plantation which had a cemetery. Internet research found it was near the intersection of Elkchester Road and Redd Road seven miles west of Lexington. I went up on http://local.live.com/ and zeroed in on that spot. When I got down to one inch equal 30 yards, just up Redd Road, I saw a small wooded square, fenced in, out in a field. It was it. My daughter lives in Louisville and is going to Lexington to get papers to adopt another Chinese baby. She is going to stop the next trip. (It helps that it is near Keeneland Racetrack, which she loves.) Ken Kimble Brooklyn Park, MN

Yep, all roads lead to Ancestry.com. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] Fw: ships lists > SORRY....I just tried to make this work and every search led to a "14-day > free trial of Ancestry.com" I fell for that free thing again! Hope I > didn't get you all excited. They do have the William and Mary passenger > list there, though (from the 1800s) > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:13 PM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ships lists > > >>I just happened to look at olive tree genealogy.com and saw that they have >>a >> 14 day trial where you can look at passenger lists for New York and >> Boston...also has the William and Mary passenger ship... >> >> take a look. I don't think you have to sign up for Ancestry. >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

SORRY....I just tried to make this work and every search led to a "14-day free trial of Ancestry.com" I fell for that free thing again! Hope I didn't get you all excited. They do have the William and Mary passenger list there, though (from the 1800s) Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ships lists >I just happened to look at olive tree genealogy.com and saw that they have >a > 14 day trial where you can look at passenger lists for New York and > Boston...also has the William and Mary passenger ship... > > take a look. I don't think you have to sign up for Ancestry. > > Marilyn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just happened to look at olive tree genealogy.com and saw that they have a 14 day trial where you can look at passenger lists for New York and Boston...also has the William and Mary passenger ship... take a look. I don't think you have to sign up for Ancestry. Marilyn

Ok...thought you were talking about the one in the 1600s... Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Dear Marilyn, > I believe there may have been more than one vessel named William and Mary. > This particular one is on the bottom of the sea. It was on the second > half of it's maiden voyage. > It started out in Bath, Maine, (where it was built) and went to > Liverpool, in 1853, picked up 208 passengers and a heavy load of > railroad iron and crockery. It went down in the Bahamas just off the > southern tip of Great Abaco. > Good luck in your search. > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > in Houston, TX > > Marilyn Otterson wrote: > >>HI...am I wrong or didn't the William and Mary make more than one trip >>with >>more than one bunch of passengers to the new world? I am pretty sure it >>did. I am quite sure (although I 'll have to look them up now) that my >>ancestors were English when they came here. There were several and I'd >>have >>to go back through some genealogies to find them but I will try if you >>need >>me to do that. >> >>Marilyn >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Robert E. Armstrong" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:12 PM >>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >> >> >>>Dear James, >>>There were only 208 passengers aboard the William and Mary. Most were >>>Irish, and the second largest contingent were Dutch. There was two small >>>families of English passengers, my grandmother's family was from >>>Scotland, and there was one additional Scottish male, Mr. Miller from >>>Edinburgh. There was one Frenchman aboard. The two English were named >>>Mr. Luke Stewart with a wife and two daughters, and Mr. Joseph Brooke >>>and his wife. >>>All the Dutch passengers have names difficult for me to spell. >>>Sincerely, >>>Bob Armstrong >>> >>> >>>James D. Allen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Here's a good example of unintentional consequences. >>>>I have a relative that came in to New Orleans as an orphan about 1853. >>>>We couldn't figure out why he CAME as an orphan but this would be an >>>>interesting angle to check out. >>>>One of those "duh" revelations. >>>> >>>>THANKS! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Robert E. Armstrong wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Dear James, >>>>>For what it's worth, I found the microfilmed passenger list of one of >>>>>the two rescue boats that brought survivors of the William and Mary >>>>>disaster to New Orleans in 1853. I found them at the Clayton >>>>>Genealogical Library in Houston. All five members of my grandmother's >>>>>family of Browns were listed, however two of the names were hardly >>>>>legible. >>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>Bob Armstrong >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>James D. Allen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Marilyn and List: >>>>>> >>>>>>Any idea where I'd go to get passenger list for a Scotsman who came to >>>>>>the US (ending up in either MA or RI) after the Civil war (I assume >>>>>>1865-72) from an unknown port of departure? >>>>>> >>>>>>I've drawn blanks from searching the standard on line or MA Archive >>>>>>passenger lists, and am not real familiar with different books or >>>>>>other >>>>>>resources out there. There are so many ports and boats, >>>>>>I'm not sure where to best spend my energy. When you refer to "ships >>>>>>records" is that a single source or do you have to search each ship >>>>>>somehow? >>>>>> >>>>>>Any suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Marilyn Otterson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello, Faye, >>>>>>>You have given very little information to help find more about your >>>>>>>William >>>>>>>Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to >>>>>>>Australia >>>>>>>from >>>>>>>Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your >>>>>>>William >>>>>>>there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with >>>>>>>their >>>>>>>mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>kids? >>>>>>>Can you find immigration records about William in >>>>>>>Australia...sometimes >>>>>>>those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>>>>>>instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in >>>>>>>Ireland >>>>>>>in >>>>>>>1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do >>>>>>>you >>>>>>>know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in >>>>>>>Australia? >>>>>>>Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time >>>>>>>finding >>>>>>>more information about William's family in Ireland. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sorry not to be of more help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Marilyn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Sincerely, >>>Bob Armstrong >>>in Houston, TX >>>picture >>>"I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without >>>regret." Roderick Haig-Brown >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of >>>America, author of the veterinary >>> mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, >>>ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and >>> INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble >>> Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > -- > Sincerely, > Bob Armstrong > in Houston, TX > picture > "I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without > regret." Roderick Haig-Brown > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of > America, author of the veterinary > mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, > ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and > INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble > Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message