Hello! Yes, still with my CC and Dew!! Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > That can only come from a man whose regular sup is CC& Moutain Dew! good > to hear from you Fount! > > John T. Armstrong >> >> From: "Fount Armstrong" <[email protected]> >> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri PM 03:33:31 EDT >> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >> Hey Ya'll, >> >> I have a supply of uncut corn in my cabinet that the ladies love. I take >> a >> half gallon of 180 proof and put 3 or 4 big plums in it and one package >> of >> Surejell and one cup of sugar. After a year, it is so smooooth that >> ladies >> like to sip it like fine wine. In a few seconds their cheeks turn rosy >> and I >> have to put the bottle up. It has a beautiful color and no bite at all >> but >> the octane is still there! >> You can do the same with grain alcohol gotten from your local frendly >> package store if you don't have a Bootleger friend. >> >> Fount >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Armstrong" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >> >> > Tom, >> > I see your problem.... "that corn" should be aged in an Oaken >> > (not Ash) Keg (barrel) and for a minimum of 8 yrs not 4..!! >> > >> > John D >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Thomas S. Fiske wrote: >> > >> >>"Man does not live by bread alone." That is why grits were invented. >> >>Some think that the manna eaten by exiled slaves for forty years in the >> >>desert, was really grits. >> >> >> >>Too good for exiled slaves, I say! >> >> >> >>I was raised on grits. That form of corn was always more agreeable to >> >>me than the kind that was aged in an ash barrel for four years and then >> >>bottled. >> >> >> >>Tom >> >> >> >>Patti Armstrong wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>grits and cream of wheat are like little marbles rolling around in >> >>>one's >> >>>mouth. They are ugly no matter what you put on them. >> >>>Patti >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>From: "Fount Armstrong" <[email protected]> >> >>>To: <[email protected]> >> >>>Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:40 AM >> >>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARMSTR[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey Cousin Marilyn!!! You knew I had to join in when food or drinking came up!! Going to MS Sunday to train two of my grandsons for a BBQ contest the next weekend. We'll be cooking all week to get everything where I can just sit back and sip and point. I'm not allowed to do anything but advise. You are right! If grits aren't cooked right, they can be some kind of bad!! Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > Hey, there is the famous Fount Ray Armstrong back among us! Hey, F.R., > good > to see you. Stick around...we have been having fun fighting about food. > > If your grits and Cream of Wheat (don't like that, myself) are like > marbles, > they must not be getting stirred enough to make them smooth when you are > cooking them, or you are cooking them too hot. No wonder you don't like > them. > > Cousin Marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Armstrong" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > > >> grits and cream of wheat are like little marbles rolling around in one's >> mouth. They are ugly no matter what you put on them. >> Patti >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fount Armstrong" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >> >>> Hey Ya'll !!!! >>> >>> Just had to step in and defend grits. >>> They are good when fixed like Marilyn said and also there are good >>> cheese >>> grits and good Crawfish grits. >>> >>> Just lurking. >>> >>> Fount >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:35 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >>> >>> >>> > Ben, you have to put butter and salt on grits or they are incredibly >>> > bland, >>> > I think. Cheese grits are delicious, but fattening. >>> > >>> > Here, down south in southern NH, we like our grits with butter and >>> > maple >>> > syrup. Yum >>> > >>> > Cousin Marilyn >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Ben Barr" <[email protected]> >>> > To: <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:39 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >>> > >>> > >>> >> Well Marilynn, >>> >> Yes, I think that it might have been mentioned. One thing that >>> >> the >>> >> Southerners really tried to impress upon me was how good Grits were. >>> >> I must say, that I did give it the old college try once. The >>> >> grits >>> >> were >>> >> awful! There answer was that I didn't have them prepared right and I >>> >> needed >>> >> to salt, pepper and butter them...hmmmm...I don't think so. >>> >> But in all fairness, I do love their ham biscuits and fried okra. >>> >> Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have changed. >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:26 AM >>> >> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> Gardner-Webb was started by my relatives. I had no idea they taught >>> >>> English, the way they speak around here, but a lot of people go >>> >>> there >>> >>> and >>> >>> seem to love it. And they don't talk funny after they graduate. Did >>> >>> they >>> >>> try to get you to eat Liver Mush? >>> >>> Marilynn >>> >>> IBSSG >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Ben Barr" <[email protected]> >>> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:51 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Marilynn, >>> >>>> Are you living in Shelby? I finished my college education at >>> >>>> Gardner-Webb College (now University) in 1980 with a degree in >> English. >>> >>>> Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have turned. >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >>> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:43 PM >>> >>>> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>I DID play Right Guard for the Green Bay Packers. You must have >> missed >>> >>>>>it. >>> >>>>> Could you concoct a recipe for Peacock Haggis? My daughter was >>> >>>>> once >>> >>>>> married >>> >>>>> to a Scotsman (didn't take. Irish tempers and Scottish tempers >>> >>>>> are >> a >>> >>>>> volatile mixture) But he didn't like Haggis either. They have >>> >>>>> something >>> >>>>> here >>> >>>>> in Shelby, NC, which they think they invented but it is only >>> >>>>> Philadelphia >>> >>>>> Scrapple made south of Philly. NO, I don't eat that either. And >>> >>>>> don't >>> >>>>> anybody write and tell me how good it was when mama made it for >>> >>>>> breakfast >>> >>>>> and served it with maple syrup. I'll take your word for it. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I have a problem about where my loyalties lay. I am a MacAteer, a >>> >>>>> MacIntyre, a Lamont (pronounced Lammit, dammit which became >> McClymont) >>> >>>>> an >>> >>>>> O'Cleirigh and a Loftus, plus an Irish Armstrong who probably >> wandered >>> >>>>> over >>> >>>>> the border. They all want me to wear THEIR pins etc. And who >>> >>>>> knows >>> >>>>> what >>> >>>>> Pryors are? Are my Gardners really Gordons? Very confusing. >>> >>>>> Marilynn >>> >>>>> IBSSG >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>>> From: "Thomas S. 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My goodness! How could you have Gumbo without okra?? Or soup?? I like mine just boiled so it just slides down your throat. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne Ham biscuits, yes. Sausage biscuits, yes. The rest of it, no, no, no! Especially "Okry"---no, no,. no! The batter on it is good, if you remove the okra--excuse me,--okry. Ben Barr <[email protected]> wrote: Well Marilynn, Yes, I think that it might have been mentioned. One thing that the Southerners really tried to impress upon me was how good Grits were. I must say, that I did give it the old college try once. The grits were awful! There answer was that I didn't have them prepared right and I needed to salt, pepper and butter them...hmmmm...I don't think so. But in all fairness, I do love their ham biscuits and fried okra. Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have changed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > Gardner-Webb was started by my relatives. I had no idea they taught > English, the way they speak around here, but a lot of people go there and > seem to love it. And they don't talk funny after they graduate. Did they > try to get you to eat Liver Mush? > Marilynn > IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Barr" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head > > >> Marilynn, >> Are you living in Shelby? I finished my college education at >> Gardner-Webb College (now University) in 1980 with a degree in English. >> Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have turned. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilynn Masten" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:43 PM >> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head >> >> >>>I DID play Right Guard for the Green Bay Packers. You must have missed >>>it. >>> Could you concoct a recipe for Peacock Haggis? My daughter was once >>> married >>> to a Scotsman (didn't take. Irish tempers and Scottish tempers are a >>> volatile mixture) But he didn't like Haggis either. They have something >>> here >>> in Shelby, NC, which they think they invented but it is only >>> Philadelphia >>> Scrapple made south of Philly. NO, I don't eat that either. And don't >>> anybody write and tell me how good it was when mama made it for >>> breakfast >>> and served it with maple syrup. I'll take your word for it. >>> >>> I have a problem about where my loyalties lay. I am a MacAteer, a >>> MacIntyre, a Lamont (pronounced Lammit, dammit which became McClymont) >>> an >>> O'Cleirigh and a Loftus, plus an Irish Armstrong who probably wandered >>> over >>> the border. They all want me to wear THEIR pins etc. And who knows >>> what >>> Pryors are? Are my Gardners really Gordons? Very confusing. >>> Marilynn >>> IBSSG >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Thomas S. Fiske" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:59 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] chosen occupations? >>> >>> >>>> Dear RR, >>>> >>>> > >>>> In >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message HRH "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving > safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in > sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly > used up, > totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are not alone Marilynn, I once received a stern scolding from a delegation of young Masons for signing an application to the Rainbow Girls for a young girl with skin of a darker hue that my daughter had nominated for membership. Needless to say.... Robert E. Armstrong DVM, MS. in Houston, TX Marilynn Masten wrote: >Oh, they WERE a bawdy bunch, weren't they? One reason I left DAR was when a >state Registrar didn't want to approve a certain person because she wasn't >"Our Kind." Wrong color. Just happens my very best friend is someone she >would consider wrong color. She's brown and I say I am, with all these >freckles, polka-dot. I'm sure not white. I don't know what I'd do without >her. >Marilynn >IBSSG > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patti Armstrong" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:52 AM >Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] [DAR and history > > > > >>Why is it we tend to think the Pilgrims were nice? They were a bawdy >>bunch. >>The rebels of the day. The founding fathers weren't so whippy either, but >>like our own DNA that's it! >> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Sincerely, Bob Armstrong in Houston, TX picture "I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without regret." Roderick Haig-Brown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert E. Armstrong, DVM, MS, member Dog Writers Association of America, author of the veterinary mystery/thrillers, CANIS - paperback, ISBN 0-595-29795-1 or eBook, ISBN 0-595-75078-8 and INDEX OF SUSPICION - ISBN: 0-595-20485-6 Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble Visit my home page at http://home.houston.rr.com/rarmstrong9/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey Ya'll, I have a supply of uncut corn in my cabinet that the ladies love. I take a half gallon of 180 proof and put 3 or 4 big plums in it and one package of Surejell and one cup of sugar. After a year, it is so smooooth that ladies like to sip it like fine wine. In a few seconds their cheeks turn rosy and I have to put the bottle up. It has a beautiful color and no bite at all but the octane is still there! You can do the same with grain alcohol gotten from your local frendly package store if you don't have a Bootleger friend. Fount ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > Tom, > I see your problem.... "that corn" should be aged in an Oaken > (not Ash) Keg (barrel) and for a minimum of 8 yrs not 4..!! > > John D > > > > > > > Thomas S. Fiske wrote: > >>"Man does not live by bread alone." That is why grits were invented. >>Some think that the manna eaten by exiled slaves for forty years in the >>desert, was really grits. >> >>Too good for exiled slaves, I say! >> >>I was raised on grits. That form of corn was always more agreeable to >>me than the kind that was aged in an ash barrel for four years and then >>bottled. >> >>Tom >> >>Patti Armstrong wrote: >> >> >>>grits and cream of wheat are like little marbles rolling around in one's >>>mouth. They are ugly no matter what you put on them. >>>Patti >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Fount Armstrong" <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:40 AM >>>Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree with the concern about the Armstrong discussion being so broad that virtually any topic within reason might be covered. I skim the digest and DO find the non-genealogical banter very distracting and seldom of interest to me. I have considered unsubscribing, because I do not find it relevant to my genealogy interests. I DO NOT have a problem with people finding new friends and relatives and enjoying their company, and I do not wish to lose the great genealogical resources that are here. I would suggest that someone consider that two lists might be appropriate: one for genealogy and one for socialization. -- Dave Murray --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

Since I am constantly receiving messages that I am pre-approved and I got my Marilynn name long before you other Marilyns were born, I believe it is up to you to change. I can use Camelita as a second middle name, along with the ever present "Jean." Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas S. Fiske" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] Peacock recipes >

Dang! I'm one generation off. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Do you know that if you had a grandparent or parent born in Ireland and > you > can prove it, I believe you are elegible for Irish citizenship. (Just in > case you decide to go....) > Cousin Marilyn (one N) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> Irish Armstrongs. I've got some of them. I've also got O"Cleirighs and >> Loftus (Co Mayo) and MacAteer who are from Co. Down. Best thing to do if >> you have Irish genealogy is go to Ireland, have a ball, wear a raincoat, >> visit each bar, take a taxi or you'll crash driving on the wrong side of >> the >> road, look for records which you won't find, but eat their carrots which >> are >> SO much better than ours, be prepared to be charmed and go home wondering >> why they ever left Ireland. Yeah, we know how it WAS and why they left, >> but >> I'd just as soon live there now. >> >> My granddaughter has a Chapman history book. They lived in NC. She >> lives >> in Seattle. See, we steer clear of NC if possible. This is all my >> husband's idea. He, from CT., thinks he's a southerner. >> >> >> Marilynn >> IBSSG >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >>> Dear Faye, >>> >>> You have quite a lot of fairly recent information. I am no expert on >>> Irish >>> genealogy except to know that it's difficult, often nearly impossible to >>> access. It does sound as you are dealing with ancestors from Ireland, >>> not >>> Ulster or those known as Scotch Irish (Irish of Scottish descent, >>> usually >>> Protestant). I think a good course for you to try is to take a look at >>> www.rootsweb.com and search the lists for a list about Ireland or County >>> Clare. There are good public records still existing in Dublin and I >>> have >>> written there for information. If your folks aren't from what is not >>> Northern Ireland you don't need to worry about searching in PRONI in >>> Belfast. >>> >>> Also, church records...if you can find out somehow (maybe from a County >>> Clare list) the religion of your ancestor, maybe you can access church >>> records to find out more about your ancestor, where baptized, where >>> married, >>> etc. If you can somehow find a marriage record you will probably know >>> more >>> about the parents' names, the townland, etc. >>> >>> Irish genealogy is a whole different animal from British and you have to >>> approach it in other ways. You can also do a search at a Family History >>> Center of the Latter Day Saints church and access their catalog and >>> records, >>> or you can search it on line as they do have some Irish records. I >>> really >>> think the best thing to do, though, is to search out a rootsweb list >>> dealing >>> with the area your ancestors were last known in Ireland or maybe a list >>> for >>> O'Dea family. >>> >>> Finally, if you look in the Scotch-Irish List archives I believe you'll >>> find >>> a tutorial in researching genealogy in Ireland. But I have always found >>> the >>> best help with Rootsweb lists for a particular Irish county. You can >>> also >>> get some good information about where to search when you get to Ireland >>> on >>> your trip. >>> >>> Sorry not to be of more help. Good luck in your search and let us know >>> how >>> you are doing with it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Marilyn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>>> Hi Marilyn, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your reply. I have all Williams info from when he was >>>> charged >>>> in >>>> Dublin, icluding the newspaper report. I also have his shipping records >>>> fro >>>> when he came to Australia in the "Hero" and his life in Australia >>>> including >>>> all his descendants. A second cousin in Sydney has done a lot and I am >>>> finalising my grandparents line. It has taken a while as there are over >>>> 160 >>>> descendants from them. >>>> >>>> I am sure William had a son, also William, who was charged with his dad >>>> but >>>> was let off while his father was transported for life to Australia. >>>> >>>> I can send you copies of this info if it would help. I am trying to >>>> find >>>> out >>>> Williams 3 childrens lives, their marriages, children etc. Do you have >>>> any >>>> clues for me to follow up on. No, I don't have the name of Williams >>>> wife >>>> from Dublin nor the other childrens names. Is there any place or web >>>> site >>>> I >>>> can get onto to try and find them? My husband and I are planniong to go >>>> to >>>> Ireland next July and will have only a day or two to search for them >>>> whilst >>>> there. We have planned to spend some time trying to find my husbands >>>> grandmothers descendants in County Clare whilst there also. She was an >>>> O'Dea. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions, web sites etc. would be most grateful. >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your time. >>>> >>>> Kindest regards >>>> >>>> Faye >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson >>>> Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:52 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, Faye, >>>> You have given very little information to help find more about your >>>> William >>>> Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>>> >>>> You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia >>>> from >>>> Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your >>>> William >>>> there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >>>> mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the >>>> kids? >>>> Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >>>> those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>>> instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland >>>> in >>>> 1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do >>>> you >>>> know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in >>>> Australia? >>>> Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time >>>> finding >>>> more information about William's family in Ireland. >>>> >>>> Sorry not to be of more help. >>>> >>>> Marilyn >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:20 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi saw you were researching thewrong Armstrongs for ages. >>>>> >>>>> I am descended from William Armstrong (he is my g g grandfather) who >>>>> came >>>>> from Ireland in the 1820's to beautiful Australia. He left behind 3 >>>>> children. Do you have any info on this line of Armstrongs. If you need >>>>> more >>>>> info let me know. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Faye Chapman (nee Armstrong) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:55 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as >>>>> gospel >>>>> anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >>>>> really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you >>>>> have >>>>> been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to >>>>> the >>>>> U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or >>>>> religious...to >>>>> confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >>>>> >>>>> When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the >>>>> local >>>>> LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >>>>> few >>>>> ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >>>>> that >>>>> person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >>>>> that >>>>> had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >>>>> often. >>>>> I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >>>>> information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I >>>>> can >>>>> trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >>>>> published >>>>> works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those >>>>> who >>>>> wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >>>>> >>>>> If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >>>>> genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >>>>> royal >>>>> families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >>>>> records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe >>>>> not. >>>>> I >>>>> think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >>>>> just >>>>> dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >>>>> >>>>> As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >>>>> searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only >>>>> fairly >>>>> recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >>>>> Tyrone..and >>>>> that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >>>>> genuine. >>>>> It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >>>>> matter >>>>> if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records >>>>> or >>>>> documents to back it up. >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, >>>>> Cousin Marilyn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>>>>> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>>>>> references an am waiting for an answer." >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>>>>> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>>>>> >>>>>> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>>>>> >>>>>> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>>>>> One >>>>>> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to >>>>>> pay >>>>>> someone to find out for me! ;D >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: >>>>> 3/10/2006 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >>>>> 4/10/2006 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >>>> 4/10/2006 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release Date: >>>> 5/10/2006 >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Grits. Go and wash your mouth out. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas S. Fiske" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > "Man does not live by bread alone." That is why grits were invented. > Some think that the manna eaten by exiled slaves for forty years in the > desert, was really grits. > > Too good for exiled slaves, I say! > > I was raised on grits. That form of corn was always more agreeable to > me than the kind that was aged in an ash barrel for four years and then > bottled. > > Tom > > Patti Armstrong wrote: >> grits and cream of wheat are like little marbles rolling around in one's >> mouth. They are ugly no matter what you put on them. >> Patti >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fount Armstrong" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

No, but you go ahead, Marilynn. I don't want to have to change my checks. Marilyn (spelled correctly) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors > Too dang many Marilyns in this world. Few of us know how to spell our > names > although I met one yesterday. I make a motion we all change our names. I > like Carmelita. What do you think? > Marilynn > IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Armstrong" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors > > >> Good by Marilyn >> Patti >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:11 AM >> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors >> >> >>> I joined this list to, maybe, find information on my Armstrong >>> ancestors. >>> Mostly I'm getting chit chat about spiders, apples, etc. What is >>> going >>> on with the Armstrongs? It's really not a genealogy chat list from what >>> I've been reading. If it doesn't improve, I'll just unsub. >>> >>> Marylin >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/06 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you know that if you had a grandparent or parent born in Ireland and you can prove it, I believe you are elegible for Irish citizenship. (Just in case you decide to go....) Cousin Marilyn (one N) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Irish Armstrongs. I've got some of them. I've also got O"Cleirighs and > Loftus (Co Mayo) and MacAteer who are from Co. Down. Best thing to do if > you have Irish genealogy is go to Ireland, have a ball, wear a raincoat, > visit each bar, take a taxi or you'll crash driving on the wrong side of > the > road, look for records which you won't find, but eat their carrots which > are > SO much better than ours, be prepared to be charmed and go home wondering > why they ever left Ireland. Yeah, we know how it WAS and why they left, > but > I'd just as soon live there now. > > My granddaughter has a Chapman history book. They lived in NC. She lives > in Seattle. See, we steer clear of NC if possible. This is all my > husband's idea. He, from CT., thinks he's a southerner. > > > Marilynn > IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> Dear Faye, >> >> You have quite a lot of fairly recent information. I am no expert on >> Irish >> genealogy except to know that it's difficult, often nearly impossible to >> access. It does sound as you are dealing with ancestors from Ireland, >> not >> Ulster or those known as Scotch Irish (Irish of Scottish descent, usually >> Protestant). I think a good course for you to try is to take a look at >> www.rootsweb.com and search the lists for a list about Ireland or County >> Clare. There are good public records still existing in Dublin and I have >> written there for information. If your folks aren't from what is not >> Northern Ireland you don't need to worry about searching in PRONI in >> Belfast. >> >> Also, church records...if you can find out somehow (maybe from a County >> Clare list) the religion of your ancestor, maybe you can access church >> records to find out more about your ancestor, where baptized, where >> married, >> etc. If you can somehow find a marriage record you will probably know >> more >> about the parents' names, the townland, etc. >> >> Irish genealogy is a whole different animal from British and you have to >> approach it in other ways. You can also do a search at a Family History >> Center of the Latter Day Saints church and access their catalog and >> records, >> or you can search it on line as they do have some Irish records. I >> really >> think the best thing to do, though, is to search out a rootsweb list >> dealing >> with the area your ancestors were last known in Ireland or maybe a list >> for >> O'Dea family. >> >> Finally, if you look in the Scotch-Irish List archives I believe you'll >> find >> a tutorial in researching genealogy in Ireland. But I have always found >> the >> best help with Rootsweb lists for a particular Irish county. You can >> also >> get some good information about where to search when you get to Ireland >> on >> your trip. >> >> Sorry not to be of more help. Good luck in your search and let us know >> how >> you are doing with it. >> >> Regards, >> Marilyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >>> Hi Marilyn, >>> >>> Thanks for your reply. I have all Williams info from when he was charged >>> in >>> Dublin, icluding the newspaper report. I also have his shipping records >>> fro >>> when he came to Australia in the "Hero" and his life in Australia >>> including >>> all his descendants. A second cousin in Sydney has done a lot and I am >>> finalising my grandparents line. It has taken a while as there are over >>> 160 >>> descendants from them. >>> >>> I am sure William had a son, also William, who was charged with his dad >>> but >>> was let off while his father was transported for life to Australia. >>> >>> I can send you copies of this info if it would help. I am trying to find >>> out >>> Williams 3 childrens lives, their marriages, children etc. Do you have >>> any >>> clues for me to follow up on. No, I don't have the name of Williams wife >>> from Dublin nor the other childrens names. Is there any place or web >>> site >>> I >>> can get onto to try and find them? My husband and I are planniong to go >>> to >>> Ireland next July and will have only a day or two to search for them >>> whilst >>> there. We have planned to spend some time trying to find my husbands >>> grandmothers descendants in County Clare whilst there also. She was an >>> O'Dea. >>> >>> Any suggestions, web sites etc. would be most grateful. >>> >>> Thanks again for your time. >>> >>> Kindest regards >>> >>> Faye >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson >>> Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:52 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>> Hello, Faye, >>> You have given very little information to help find more about your >>> William >>> Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >>> >>> You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia >>> from >>> Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your >>> William >>> there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >>> mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the >>> kids? >>> Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >>> those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >>> instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland >>> in >>> 1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do you >>> know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in >>> Australia? >>> Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time >>> finding >>> more information about William's family in Ireland. >>> >>> Sorry not to be of more help. >>> >>> Marilyn >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>>> Hi saw you were researching thewrong Armstrongs for ages. >>>> >>>> I am descended from William Armstrong (he is my g g grandfather) who >>>> came >>>> from Ireland in the 1820's to beautiful Australia. He left behind 3 >>>> children. Do you have any info on this line of Armstrongs. If you need >>>> more >>>> info let me know. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Faye Chapman (nee Armstrong) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:55 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>> >>>> >>>> One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as >>>> gospel >>>> anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >>>> really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you >>>> have >>>> been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to >>>> the >>>> U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or >>>> religious...to >>>> confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >>>> >>>> When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the >>>> local >>>> LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >>>> few >>>> ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >>>> that >>>> person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >>>> that >>>> had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >>>> often. >>>> I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >>>> information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can >>>> trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >>>> published >>>> works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those >>>> who >>>> wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >>>> >>>> If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >>>> genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >>>> royal >>>> families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >>>> records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe >>>> not. >>>> I >>>> think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >>>> just >>>> dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >>>> >>>> As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >>>> searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only >>>> fairly >>>> recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >>>> Tyrone..and >>>> that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >>>> genuine. >>>> It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >>>> matter >>>> if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or >>>> documents to back it up. >>>> >>>> IMHO, >>>> Cousin Marilyn >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>>> >>>> >>>>> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>>>> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>>>> references an am waiting for an answer." >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>>>> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>>>> >>>>> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>>>> >>>>> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>>>> One >>>>> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to >>>>> pay >>>>> someone to find out for me! ;D >>>>> >>>>> Take care, >>>>> >>>>> Rob. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: >>>> 3/10/2006 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >>>> 4/10/2006 >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >>> 4/10/2006 >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release Date: >>> 5/10/2006 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey, there is the famous Fount Ray Armstrong back among us! Hey, F.R., good to see you. Stick around...we have been having fun fighting about food. If your grits and Cream of Wheat (don't like that, myself) are like marbles, they must not be getting stirred enough to make them smooth when you are cooking them, or you are cooking them too hot. No wonder you don't like them. Cousin Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > grits and cream of wheat are like little marbles rolling around in one's > mouth. They are ugly no matter what you put on them. > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fount Armstrong" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:40 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne > > >> Hey Ya'll !!!! >> >> Just had to step in and defend grits. >> They are good when fixed like Marilyn said and also there are good cheese >> grits and good Crawfish grits. >> >> Just lurking. >> >> Fount >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >> >> > Ben, you have to put butter and salt on grits or they are incredibly >> > bland, >> > I think. Cheese grits are delicious, but fattening. >> > >> > Here, down south in southern NH, we like our grits with butter and >> > maple >> > syrup. Yum >> > >> > Cousin Marilyn >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ben Barr" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:39 PM >> > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> > >> > >> >> Well Marilynn, >> >> Yes, I think that it might have been mentioned. One thing that the >> >> Southerners really tried to impress upon me was how good Grits were. >> >> I must say, that I did give it the old college try once. The grits >> >> were >> >> awful! There answer was that I didn't have them prepared right and I >> >> needed >> >> to salt, pepper and butter them...hmmmm...I don't think so. >> >> But in all fairness, I do love their ham biscuits and fried okra. >> >> Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have changed. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:26 AM >> >> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] To Ben Barr, brother of Rosanne >> >> >> >> >> >>> Gardner-Webb was started by my relatives. I had no idea they taught >> >>> English, the way they speak around here, but a lot of people go >> >>> there >> >>> and >> >>> seem to love it. And they don't talk funny after they graduate. Did >> >>> they >> >>> try to get you to eat Liver Mush? >> >>> Marilynn >> >>> IBSSG >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Ben Barr" <[email protected]> >> >>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:51 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Marilynn, >> >>>> Are you living in Shelby? I finished my college education at >> >>>> Gardner-Webb College (now University) in 1980 with a degree in > English. >> >>>> Ben Barr from North-central Maine where the leaves have turned. >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:43 PM >> >>>> Subject: [ARMSTRONG] to the Old Red-Head >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I DID play Right Guard for the Green Bay Packers. You must have > missed >> >>>>>it. >> >>>>> Could you concoct a recipe for Peacock Haggis? My daughter was >> >>>>> once >> >>>>> married >> >>>>> to a Scotsman (didn't take. Irish tempers and Scottish tempers are > a >> >>>>> volatile mixture) But he didn't like Haggis either. They have >> >>>>> something >> >>>>> here >> >>>>> in Shelby, NC, which they think they invented but it is only >> >>>>> Philadelphia >> >>>>> Scrapple made south of Philly. NO, I don't eat that either. And >> >>>>> don't >> >>>>> anybody write and tell me how good it was when mama made it for >> >>>>> breakfast >> >>>>> and served it with maple syrup. I'll take your word for it. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I have a problem about where my loyalties lay. I am a MacAteer, a >> >>>>> MacIntyre, a Lamont (pronounced Lammit, dammit which became > McClymont) >> >>>>> an >> >>>>> O'Cleirigh and a Loftus, plus an Irish Armstrong who probably > wandered >> >>>>> over >> >>>>> the border. They all want me to wear THEIR pins etc. And who >> >>>>> knows >> >>>>> what >> >>>>> Pryors are? Are my Gardners really Gordons? Very confusing. >> >>>>> Marilynn >> >>>>> IBSSG >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>> From: "Thomas S. Fiske" <[email protected]> >> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:59 AM >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] chosen occupations? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Dear RR, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> In >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >>> the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/06 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, they WERE a bawdy bunch, weren't they? One reason I left DAR was when a state Registrar didn't want to approve a certain person because she wasn't "Our Kind." Wrong color. Just happens my very best friend is someone she would consider wrong color. She's brown and I say I am, with all these freckles, polka-dot. I'm sure not white. I don't know what I'd do without her. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] [DAR and history > Why is it we tend to think the Pilgrims were nice? They were a bawdy > bunch. > The rebels of the day. The founding fathers weren't so whippy either, but > like our own DNA that's it! > >

Thanks, Robin. I do appreciate it! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] Robin: your search offer >"> Are you swamped with requests now?" > > Surprisingly, no!! I've posted this to the G4D list, shall let you know > what they come back with! :D > > Take care, > > Rob. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Too dang many Marilyns in this world. Few of us know how to spell our names although I met one yesterday. I make a motion we all change our names. I like Carmelita. What do you think? Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors > Good by Marilyn > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:11 AM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ancestors > > >> I joined this list to, maybe, find information on my Armstrong ancestors. >> Mostly I'm getting chit chat about spiders, apples, etc. What is going >> on with the Armstrongs? It's really not a genealogy chat list from what >> I've been reading. If it doesn't improve, I'll just unsub. >> >> Marylin >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/06 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Irish Armstrongs. I've got some of them. I've also got O"Cleirighs and Loftus (Co Mayo) and MacAteer who are from Co. Down. Best thing to do if you have Irish genealogy is go to Ireland, have a ball, wear a raincoat, visit each bar, take a taxi or you'll crash driving on the wrong side of the road, look for records which you won't find, but eat their carrots which are SO much better than ours, be prepared to be charmed and go home wondering why they ever left Ireland. Yeah, we know how it WAS and why they left, but I'd just as soon live there now. My granddaughter has a Chapman history book. They lived in NC. She lives in Seattle. See, we steer clear of NC if possible. This is all my husband's idea. He, from CT., thinks he's a southerner. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Dear Faye, > > You have quite a lot of fairly recent information. I am no expert on > Irish > genealogy except to know that it's difficult, often nearly impossible to > access. It does sound as you are dealing with ancestors from Ireland, not > Ulster or those known as Scotch Irish (Irish of Scottish descent, usually > Protestant). I think a good course for you to try is to take a look at > www.rootsweb.com and search the lists for a list about Ireland or County > Clare. There are good public records still existing in Dublin and I have > written there for information. If your folks aren't from what is not > Northern Ireland you don't need to worry about searching in PRONI in > Belfast. > > Also, church records...if you can find out somehow (maybe from a County > Clare list) the religion of your ancestor, maybe you can access church > records to find out more about your ancestor, where baptized, where > married, > etc. If you can somehow find a marriage record you will probably know > more > about the parents' names, the townland, etc. > > Irish genealogy is a whole different animal from British and you have to > approach it in other ways. You can also do a search at a Family History > Center of the Latter Day Saints church and access their catalog and > records, > or you can search it on line as they do have some Irish records. I really > think the best thing to do, though, is to search out a rootsweb list > dealing > with the area your ancestors were last known in Ireland or maybe a list > for > O'Dea family. > > Finally, if you look in the Scotch-Irish List archives I believe you'll > find > a tutorial in researching genealogy in Ireland. But I have always found > the > best help with Rootsweb lists for a particular Irish county. You can also > get some good information about where to search when you get to Ireland on > your trip. > > Sorry not to be of more help. Good luck in your search and let us know > how > you are doing with it. > > Regards, > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> Hi Marilyn, >> >> Thanks for your reply. I have all Williams info from when he was charged >> in >> Dublin, icluding the newspaper report. I also have his shipping records >> fro >> when he came to Australia in the "Hero" and his life in Australia >> including >> all his descendants. A second cousin in Sydney has done a lot and I am >> finalising my grandparents line. It has taken a while as there are over >> 160 >> descendants from them. >> >> I am sure William had a son, also William, who was charged with his dad >> but >> was let off while his father was transported for life to Australia. >> >> I can send you copies of this info if it would help. I am trying to find >> out >> Williams 3 childrens lives, their marriages, children etc. Do you have >> any >> clues for me to follow up on. No, I don't have the name of Williams wife >> from Dublin nor the other childrens names. Is there any place or web site >> I >> can get onto to try and find them? My husband and I are planniong to go >> to >> Ireland next July and will have only a day or two to search for them >> whilst >> there. We have planned to spend some time trying to find my husbands >> grandmothers descendants in County Clare whilst there also. She was an >> O'Dea. >> >> Any suggestions, web sites etc. would be most grateful. >> >> Thanks again for your time. >> >> Kindest regards >> >> Faye >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson >> Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >> Hello, Faye, >> You have given very little information to help find more about your >> William >> Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) >> >> You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia >> from >> Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your >> William >> there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their >> mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the >> kids? >> Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes >> those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For >> instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland >> in >> 1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do you >> know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in >> Australia? >> Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time >> finding >> more information about William's family in Ireland. >> >> Sorry not to be of more help. >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >> >> >>> Hi saw you were researching thewrong Armstrongs for ages. >>> >>> I am descended from William Armstrong (he is my g g grandfather) who >>> came >>> from Ireland in the 1820's to beautiful Australia. He left behind 3 >>> children. Do you have any info on this line of Armstrongs. If you need >>> more >>> info let me know. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Faye Chapman (nee Armstrong) >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson >>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:55 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>> One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as >>> gospel >>> anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You >>> really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you >>> have >>> been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the >>> U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to >>> confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. >>> >>> When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the >>> local >>> LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the >>> few >>> ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on >>> that >>> person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info >>> that >>> had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly >>> often. >>> I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of >>> information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can >>> trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most >>> published >>> works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who >>> wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. >>> >>> If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one >>> genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through >>> royal >>> families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the >>> records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe >>> not. >>> I >>> think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are >>> just >>> dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. >>> >>> As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to >>> searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only >>> fairly >>> recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. >>> Tyrone..and >>> that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are >>> genuine. >>> It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no >>> matter >>> if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or >>> documents to back it up. >>> >>> IMHO, >>> Cousin Marilyn >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre >>> >>> >>>> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >>>> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >>>> references an am waiting for an answer." >>>> >>>> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >>>> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >>>> >>>> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >>>> >>>> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >>>> One >>>> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay >>>> someone to find out for me! ;D >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> >>>> Rob. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: >>> 3/10/2006 >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >>> 4/10/2006 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >> 4/10/2006 >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release Date: 5/10/2006 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My brother was stationed in OK with the Air Force for a while. He rented a house near a bunch of normal folks. They all had riding mowers but he had his trusty little push mower. He kept hitting things in the grass as he mowed. A neighbor came over and suggested he wear boots, and asked him not to cut the grass when the kids were around. Apparently, he was spewing chucks of rattle snake all over and didn't know what was happening. He bought a tractor the next day. One adventurous day he opened the storm cellar doors to see if it were usable and there was a den of snakes at the bottom of the stairs. At least he had fresh food if he ever had to use the cellar. Your dad would have loved this place. lol. Marilynn Masten wrote: > Thanks. I may live in NC but I am not an NC Armstrong. Mine were from > Westchester Co., NY and Ballston (Saratoga). And you can tell I am not a > North Carolinian with my dislike of Grits and the "famous" (infamous) > LIVERMUSH?!? Still, my Dad didn't care for either and he didn't like > "Okry". He was born and raised just north of Shelby, NC. Oh, but he LOVED > his old salty, flat cornbread with a half-pound of butter on it. Mom was a > Yankee who made Johnny Cake, nice and high and fluffy and sweet----with, > yes,a half-pound of butter on it. > > Dad hated snakes with a vicious hatred. One day he ran all over the yard > with a lawn-mower to catch one of those horrible things. He had heard the > old story. that if you cut a snake in two it will grow back together. So he > gingerly picked up each of the 4 pieces of the snake and buried each piece > in different corners of the yard. "There" he said, "Now let's see you get > back together from there." Don't believe it ever did. > Marilynn > IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:43 AM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG] NC Armstrongs > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cool. Good thing to do on a rainy day. Glad you found it. We are going to a McAndrews family reunion in November and were looking for something our little delegation could wear to stand out. My wife has 102 first cousins and there are 5 in her family for a total of 107 ! 20 aunts and uncles (excluding her own parents). Lots of farmers. Last time we put photos of her deceased parents on our shirts with "SHMILY" under it. My daughter wrote that about them. Search for SHMILY and you'll get a flavor for this crew- it's a nice story and was picked up by several book. BTW - One aunt had a birth party and over 300 relatives showed up. If I get that many to my funeral, I'll be happy. Robyn Leeds wrote: > "it's an experience by itself to see all the products." > > Boy is that an understatement, I didn't realise it was such a big business!!!! I just spent about 15-20 minutes surfing sites and I've sent hubby a link for the t-shirt and bookmarked at least 5 more. I wonder how much he's prepared to spend on me for Christmas? lol > > Take care, > > Rob. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks. I may live in NC but I am not an NC Armstrong. Mine were from Westchester Co., NY and Ballston (Saratoga). And you can tell I am not a North Carolinian with my dislike of Grits and the "famous" (infamous) LIVERMUSH?!? Still, my Dad didn't care for either and he didn't like "Okry". He was born and raised just north of Shelby, NC. Oh, but he LOVED his old salty, flat cornbread with a half-pound of butter on it. Mom was a Yankee who made Johnny Cake, nice and high and fluffy and sweet----with, yes,a half-pound of butter on it. Dad hated snakes with a vicious hatred. One day he ran all over the yard with a lawn-mower to catch one of those horrible things. He had heard the old story. that if you cut a snake in two it will grow back together. So he gingerly picked up each of the 4 pieces of the snake and buried each piece in different corners of the yard. "There" he said, "Now let's see you get back together from there." Don't believe it ever did. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] NC Armstrongs > Hope all is well with our NC Armstrong, Marilynn. > > Mary in GA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Marilyn, Thanks for your reply. I have all Williams info from when he was charged in Dublin, icluding the newspaper report. I also have his shipping records fro when he came to Australia in the "Hero" and his life in Australia including all his descendants. A second cousin in Sydney has done a lot and I am finalising my grandparents line. It has taken a while as there are over 160 descendants from them. I am sure William had a son, also William, who was charged with his dad but was let off while his father was transported for life to Australia. I can send you copies of this info if it would help. I am trying to find out Williams 3 childrens lives, their marriages, children etc. Do you have any clues for me to follow up on. No, I don't have the name of Williams wife from Dublin nor the other childrens names. Is there any place or web site I can get onto to try and find them? My husband and I are planniong to go to Ireland next July and will have only a day or two to search for them whilst there. We have planned to spend some time trying to find my husbands grandmothers descendants in County Clare whilst there also. She was an O'Dea. Any suggestions, web sites etc. would be most grateful. Thanks again for your time. Kindest regards Faye -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre Hello, Faye, You have given very little information to help find more about your William Armstrong. (It's a very common name.) You might try researching ships' records for 1820 arrivals to Australia from Ireland. It's possible you could find more information about your William there. Do you know if the children who were left behind were with their mother? Do you happen to know her name? Do you know the names of the kids? Can you find immigration records about William in Australia...sometimes those reveal more information about the person arriving there. (For instance, there were probably 100 or more William Armstrongs in Ireland in 1820 and you would need to know what country William came from.) Do you know if he ever was able to bring the children to be with him in Australia? Without knowing more, I think you are going to have a difficult time finding more information about William's family in Ireland. Sorry not to be of more help. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "F Chapman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > Hi saw you were researching thewrong Armstrongs for ages. > > I am descended from William Armstrong (he is my g g grandfather) who came > from Ireland in the 1820's to beautiful Australia. He left behind 3 > children. Do you have any info on this line of Armstrongs. If you need > more > info let me know. > > Kind regards > > Faye Chapman (nee Armstrong) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson > Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > > One of the biggest lessons I've had is that you just can't take as gospel > anything you find or are given on the Internet or in LDS records. You > really have to check the primary source to know for sure if what you have > been given is correct. That's why many genealogists end up going to the > U.K. or Ireland to try to find primary records...civil or religious...to > confirm what they suppose about their ancestors. > > When I first started to work on my family's genealogy I went to the local > LDS Family History Center. A kind volunteer helped me find one of the few > ancestors I knew of at that time. I copied all the info available on that > person and then tried to go from there only to find out that the info that > had been given to the FHC was incorrect. This seems to happen fairly > often. > I used to find things on the Internet and think I'd found a bonanza of > information but it was often inaccurate. The only records I feel I can > trust, other than seeing the documents myself, are those in most > published > works and in records of such organizations as the D.A.R. where those who > wish to join must find primary records of their ancestors. > > If we could go back far enough, we could all find a royal. I have one > genealogy that takes me back to Adam and Eve, or practically, through > royal > families from all over Europe...but there's no way of knowing if the > records, even though published, are correct. Maybe they are...maybe not. > I > think that unless we can see the actual records or a true copy, we are > just > dealing with wishful thinking a lot of the time. > > As some know, I was researching the wrong Armstrong family...even to > searching cemeteries in Co. Antrim...for about 5 years. It's only fairly > recently that I know my Armstrongs emigrated to the USA from Co. > Tyrone..and > that's from church baptismal and marriage records which I know are > genuine. > It's easy to get off on the wrong track if you accept information, no > matter > if given with good intentions, without making sure there are records or > documents to back it up. > > IMHO, > Cousin Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE, De Mormaer & De Dampierre > > >> "After seeing your post yesterday I Googled the de Mormaer >> name and came up with another lead, have emailed asking for factual >> references an am waiting for an answer." >> >> Thanks Sean for this post, it's certainly given me a lot of info!! :D >> Would you let me know what you hear back please? Ta muchly! :D >> >> "And don't forget that I am as likely to be wrong as anyone else." >> >> Which has always been MY concern ... just how correct are MY details? >> One >> day I'll hit the jackpot on the Georgia Lottery and I'll be able to pay >> someone to find out for me! ;D >> >> Take care, >> >> Rob. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 3/10/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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