On finding the Father of William Carroll Pace. Here is my request. In a few minutes I'll post a follow up from Gordon Pace. I just wanted to see if you guys had any suggestions or anything to add. We are pretty certain that William Carroll Pace is the GRANDSON of William Pace, JR and Ruth Lambert Pace. We have no proof of who his Father was. Julie. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Siriuspace@aol.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <predmore@intcon.net> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 8:18 PM Subject: Need help from experts on Rutherford Co, TN Paces > The following important message was sent to me by Julie Predmore who is not a > member of this mail list. When you respond to her please also post a copy to > the PACE-L mail list. > Gordon W. Pace > > Subj: Need help from the experts on the Rutherford County, TN Paces > Date: 11/10/2000 5:33:42 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: predmore@intcon.net (Julie Predmore) > To: PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > I am looking for help from the experts here. I am NOT a member of this > Digest. So please copy my email addy Predmore@intcon.net on any responses. > Thank you!!!! > > I am a descendant from William Carrol Pace and Mary Emily McCracken. There > were long time Marion County, AR residents and William Carroll Pace was a > Captain in the Civil War. > > ************************************** > For a long time, I was going down the wrong path because of a faulty source. > "Marion County Families 1811-1900" says that Bartley Pace is William Carroll > Pace's Father and that William Pace is his grandfather. But this is wrong. I > am 99% sure of it. Here's why. > > The source for Bartley Pace is a line from History of Marion County by Earl > Berry which says that William Carroll Pace's father MIGHT be Bartley Pace. > That's literally what it says. > > Those working on the book, also made another incorrect assumption that I > made. > > That the William Pace on the Marion County 1860 listed below was William > Carroll Pace's grandfather. The truth is that the William Pace in the King > household was William Pace KING father of John King and son of John and > Hannah King. I owe this tidbit to the research of Susie Henderson, our KING > family expert. > > But that brings another interesting clue. Where did William Pace KING get > the Pace in his middle name. Another cousin perhaps??? > > Here's > what the MCAR 1860 for Jimmies Creek Township says: > > William C. Pace 33 TN (867) > Mary E [McCracken] 33 TN > Elizabeth C 10 TN > Margaret J 9 AR > William J 5 AR > John L 3 AR Amy A 1 AR > > John King 36 TN (868) > William P 14 TN > Margaret J 12 TN > Margaret F 6 AR > William Pace 89 NC > > *************************************** > > Now, John Pace married Sarah McCracken. Sarah and Emily McCracken are > sisters. It would be an ASSUMPTION that John Pace and William Carroll Pace > are probably brothers...at the least cousins. > > ***************************************** > William Carroll Pace's oldest son is named Lambert...and the name Lambert > continues on down through my Pace line. > > **************************************** > Here are some deeds sent to me by Bob Pace > > Info via Bob Pace > In my May 5 message I mentioned some deeds in Rutherford County, TN in > which William Carroll is involved. These are courtesy of Bruce Howard, and > are as follows: > Deed Book 5, page 57, No. 89, Wm & John King to Carroll Pace. The > deed is for forty acres, more or less, on the East fork of Stones river, > from William King & John King to William Pace & William Carroll Pace, for > the sum of Eighty dollars, November 23, 1846. > Deed Book 4, page 711/712, No. 922, George Gannon & Wife to William > C. Pace. The deed is from George Gannon & Rebecca Gannon (formerly Rebecca > Pace) two tracts in district 19, the first tract estimated at thirty acres. > The second tract was adjacent to a tract originally owned by Brittan Pace. > The total deed is for 85 acres, and the price was $25. The deed is dated > November 29, 1847. > > The deeds suggest a relationship between William Pace and William Carroll > Pace. The William Pace could be the oldest son of William Pace-Ruth > Lambert. In another deed dated December 16, 1848, William Pace, Sr. deeds > a tract of land (two acres) in District 19 on the waters of Stones river to > Dollison Parker. In another deed Brittan Pace was deeded the land (thirty > acres) referenced in Deed Book 4 above by Jesse Joy for $200 on December 4, > 1824. Both deeds refer to the land as formerly owned by Samuel Hanse. > > This implies a relationship between John King, William (Pace) King, a > William Pace(Which one??) and William Carrol Pace. Also notice the names > Rebecca (Pace) Gannon and Brittan Pace. Are these siblings??? Also Dollison > Parker is a brother of John Garrison Parker...another of my direct > ancestors. > > ************************************* > This is a post from Gordon about John Pace, Jr who married Sarah McCracken. > I am supposing that this John Pace, Jr may be William Carroll Pace's brother > or cousin > > Your Lenny Pace, according to my records, is a direct descendant of the famo > us Richard Pace of Jamestown (ca. 1620). The lineage, beginning with the 4th > generation from Richard of Jamestown is: > 4. James Pace b. 1666 Charles City Co, Va m. Elizabeth Lowe, m. abt 1685. 4 > children. > 5. Richard Pace b abt 1690 d abt 1738, m. Sarah Woodliefe m. abt 1710. 4 > children. > 6. Richard Pace b abt 1713 Prince George Co, VA d abt 5/1769 Edgecombe Co, > NC, m. Elizabeth abt 1743. They had 7 children. > 7. William Pace Sr. b. abt 1745 Prince George Co, d. 1834 TN, m. Ruth > Lambert, m. abt 1770 in Franklin Co, NC, 11 children. > 8. John Pace b. 1782 Nash Co, NC d. abt 1814 in Rutherford Co, TN, m. Sarah > Anderson, m. 12/3/1805 in Clarke Co, GA. Sarah was b. in 1780 GA, children > were John, Jr., Ruth Lambert, Polly Ezekiel. John Sr. was killed in the War > of 1812. > 9. John Pace, Jr. b. 4/18/1812 Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co, TN, d. 4/7/1874 > in Ellis Co, TX, m. Sarah McCracken. Sarah was born 8/31/1813 in Rutherford > Co, TN. She was daughter of Joseph Richmond McCracken & Isabella Thompson > and granddaughter of John McCracken and Sarah Luck. Children of John and > Sarah were: John Lambert b. 1836, Julia Elizabeth b. 1838, Lenny b. 1839, > James T. b. 1843, Sarah E. b. 1845, William T. b. 2/1847 (birth years > estimated from census.) > You will note that John Pace, Jr. was son of John Pace, Sr, not James Pace. > James was the brother of John Sr. and married Mary Ann Loving, not Lambert. > I have not heard of Mary Ann Lambert. Also if there is any connection to > Ireland or Scotland it is on the maternal side. McCracken is certainly > either Irish or Scottish. Much of this information came from Randy Farrar, > farrar@airmail.net. Also Bruce Howard. > Gordon W. Pace > > > ******************************************************** > > Bruce, Gordon, Bob you guys who are so good at genealogy. Help me put all my > pieces together and prove William Carroll Pace's parentage!!! >