Dear Mysty, I still am not ready to drop the CAIN/CASEBOLT connection possibility. I do think that Jeremiah CREWS' son James is the one that md Avarilla. Their marriage is in the ARMARION marriage entries, in 1886. So if this is so, and Avarilla was Minerva Casebolt's daughter, her children would still be Jeremiah Crews' grandchildren also. Wouldn't they? Another interesting thing I noticed in that 1900 census entry is that where it asked for number of children by this mother, Minerva answered "1". So I think the 3 children listed with her and Robert on the 1880 census were not hers but Louisa, Roberts first wife. Anyway, its still a theory, but I'm not ready to give up on it yet. Thanks again. Patricia Gausnell

I'm probably boring everyone to death and beyond, but here I go again. Patricia, for my own information (and maybe yours), I've (I think) sorted out the Crews and Treas families and how they may or may not relate to your Cain family - and maybe more besides. Maybe some list members have some in put :-))) Wouldn't that be nice? MCAR 1880 census Sugar Loaf Township. Jeremiah Crews 38 KY KY KY. Martha 40 wife MO KY KY. James 14 son IL KY MO [b 1866]. Susan 12 dau MO KY MO [b 1868]. Fanny 9 dau AR KY MO [b 1871]. George W son 7 AR KY MO [b 1873]. Allen Anderson 23 son-in-law 23 MO MO MO. Virginia 15 dau/wife IL KY MO [b 1865]. "Marion Co AR 1890" by Helen McMindes. John W Treas b Sep 1844 KY KY KY. Sugar Loaf Township. Zystery A b June 1849 wife KY NC KY (m 31 yrs, had 8 kids, 6 living per 1900 census). Nancy Jane b Jan 1877 dau AR KY KY (m ? yrs, 1 child, 1 living as per 1900 census). Martha A b April 1880 dau MO KY KY. Hanny E [Hannah] b Nov 1882 MO KY KY. Maude F dau b May 1885 MO KY KY. "Marion Co AR 1890" by Helen McMindes. Charles E Treas b Dec 1868 KY KY KY. Sugar Loaf Township. Sarah F [Fanny] b April 1871 AR KY MO (m 11 years, 4 kids, 3 living per 1900 census). An aunt of Charley's, Nancy J, b April 1844 KY TN TN, is living with them in 1900. Also a boarder whose age and birthplace of parents indicates he might be Sarah's {Fanny's] brother, George W Crews b April 1873 AR KY MO. Charley and Sarah [Fanny] are in James Creek Township in 1900). James W. son b Jan 1888 AR KY KY. Mountain Echo, 18 June 1886 issue. J E Crews [b 1866] licensed to marry Avarilla Cain [b 1869]. "Marion Co Marriages 1887-1896" by Marion Burnes & Vicki Roberts. Charles E Treas aged 20 [b 1869] of Sugar Loaf Township m MCAR 8 Dec 1889 Fannie Crews aged 18 [b 1871] of Franklin Township. Nanny Treas aged 17 [b 1877] of Dodd City Township m MCAR 2 Dec 1894 G W Crews aged 20 [b 1874] of Oakland. "Marion Co Marriages 1896-1905" by Marian Burnes & Vicki Roberts. Nancy Treas aged 23 [b 1877] of Dodd City Township m MCAR 22 Aug 1900 W S Fisher aged 35 [b 1865] of Dodd City Township. Ethel Treas aged 17 [b 1883] of Dodd City Township m MCAR 11 Nov 1900 George Robison aged 22 [1878] of Dodd City Township. James Treas aged 18 [b 1887] of Kingdon Springs m MCAR 12 Sep 1905 Bulah Chaffin aged 18 [b 1887] of Kingdon Springs According to marriages: Jeremiah and Martha (___) Crews had two children not listed on the 1880 MCAR census. One was their daughter Virginia who is shown on the 1880 census as married to Allen Anderson. They are living with her parents. The other was Ethel who was born ca 1883 - after the 1880 census was taken. She married George Robison 1900. J E Crews married Avarilla Cain in 1886. Charles E Treas married Fannie Crews, daughter of Jeremiah and Martha (___) Crews. Nanny Treas (sister of Charles) [b 1877] married G W Crews 1894. Then, Nancy Treas (sister of Charlie) [b 1877] married W S Fisher 1900. And in 1900 (according to "Marion Co AR 1890" by Helen McMindes), George Crews is living with his brother-in-law Charles Treas. Nanny/Nancy Treas/Crews (according to "Marion Co. AR 1890) is living with her parents.. Now, in 1900, we have Robert Casebolt married to Manerva ___ b MO ca 1841. In his household we find two grandchildren, John M Crews b Nov 1889 AR MO AR and Marie Crews b 1895. Six years between children is a long time. I'm suggesting that *possibly* John M Crews is the son of J E and Avarilla and that his parents are both deceased or Avarilla is deceased and J E has remarried. I'm also suggesting that *probably* Marie Crews is the daughter of George W and Nanny Treas. My biggest hangup with this is that the father of John M Crews was born in MO when James Crews (son of Jeremiah & Martha) was born in IL. However, I'm still having a problem with Jim and Minerva Cain being buried together in Cain Cemetery, with Minerva Cain being born in KY, and with Manerva ___, 2nd wife of Robert Casebolt, being born in MO. And I'm not *real* sure the J E Crews that married Avarilla Cain is the James Crews who is the son of Jeremiah and Martha. All of your conjecture is entirely possible. I'm just sort of playing Devil's Advocate - trying to make aboslutely sure there's no 'coon in the woodpile here. I'll see if I can find more information when (and if) I go to the library this week (I've dinner guests tomorrow night and Friday is my 70th here and Saturday is another birthday here - and I'm exhausted just thinking about it all <grin>. Will check the 1900, 1910, and 1920 microfilm *whenever* I get to the library next. Oh, how I wish someone would put them in print <wow>. Mull all this over. It's rather interesting - proposes more questions than it answers, that's for sure!!! Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com