Neither of these families is easy to research, Pat. Suggest you go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion. Scroll down to Elam McCracken. Then email Helen Lease - her address is at the top of the page. She's been very helpful to me on this Elam McCracken family. Oh, and I think you'll find that Elam's wife's name was Algencia Maxey and she was called "Gencie." And I also think you'll find the vast majority of records spell it Lantz. They're not English - they apparently came from Hamburg, Germany. One gal I know of who's top notch at the Lantz family is Joyce (Lantz) Havner. She used to live in Mt Home, but she's not listed there in the new phone book. Maybe someone on the list knows how to contact her. Another that's been a big help is Linda Sheehan in Ca. if you'd like her address, I can send it to you off list. Lewis D Osborne (son of Jonas & Sarah [___] Osborne) b TN 1838/9 m Margaret L McCracken (daughter of Elam & Algencia "Gencie" [Maxey] McCracken) b TN 1842. Actually, the more I dig around trying to find answers for you in the individial family files I have (two sets - "Big Blue Book" and its Supplement), the more confused I get (and the census records are no great help <groan>. Why not go to the MCAR page (see URL above), print out the Elam McCracken and Osborne families (and any others that seem to fit) and see what you can put together. Meantime I'll spend some time digging thru this mess and see what I can come up with. Meantime, would you share with me what you have from Cannon Co TN, please? Working with unknowns (other McCracken kids, for instance) can make for an awful lot of mistakes. And, if anyone on the list can help Pat, please do so. Thanks. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ********************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Gausnell <gausnell@wmni.net> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > Thanks Mysty for your help with my CAIN line. Now I would like to ask all for some help with another related Marion County line: > > Mary Susan LANCE/LANTZ (b. Dec 1854 in Mo) md James C CAIN about 1876, probably Marion County. They lived in the James Creek Twp. Their children: Lillie May, Amanda J., Lydia Belle, Sarah Elizabeth, Columbus Washington, William Spencer, and Melinda Margaret. > > Family tradition says her parents were Nicholas Washington LANCE and Jensee MCCRACKEN. I have seached diligently and have found no Nicholas Washington LANCE nor a Jensee MCCRACKEN. I have found a Mary S. LANCE of the right age and birthstate living with Elam and Jane MCracken on the 1860 and 1870 censuses. I think she might be the daughter of their daughter Jane McCracken, who was with them on the 1850 census of Cannon Co, TN, and does not appear on any other records that I have found. I think she might have md. someone named LANCE, and then died soon after Mary's birth. Jane MCCRACKEN the wife of Elam was also called Jincy or Gencie, so either her daughter Jane was also called that, or perhaps Mary's children just remembered that she was raised by a woman name Jensee/Jincy/Gencie. > > Who was the father? I have thought he might be the son of Moses LANCE/LANTZ of Ozark Co, MO, but which one? Was there another LANCE family that he might have been part of? > > On the 1860 census of Marion Co, in Sugarloaf twp, there is a Sarah Lance as head of household, and she has a Mary E. Lance age 4, b. ARK. This might be my Mary, but her middle initial in wrong as is her birthstate and year. > > On the 1870 census of Marion Co, in Rapps Barren Twp there is a Zelpha (?) LANCE age 60 living near a Hardy M. and a Charles LANCE. I have apparently found this family on the 1850 census of Cannon Co, TN with the parents given as Henry and Zelphy LANCE. Might they have had an older son named Nicholas Washington? > > Mary Susan Lance's daughter Melinda remebered that her mother had a half-sister named Osborn. This means that either her mother or father had another marriage. If the half-sister's maiden name was Osborn, then this means that her mother, Jensee, remarried a man named OSBORN. But if her married name was OSBORN, then she might have been a LANCE and md a man named OSBORN. > > In the records of the Wildcat Cem, there are records of Jones Osborn and Jency Osborn. The relative listed is SR Osborn, a great grandson. Does anyone know who they are? > > I see that Jones OSBORN was married to Sarah BAILEY. Their last child was born about 1845. Could this mean his wife died and might he have remarried to Jency MCCRACKEN LANCE?

Did your Lantz family go west, like NE? And do you have a Harry Lantz? I am not sure where the Sioux Co., NE Lantz family came from but could find out. Thelma Nation Harrison NE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mysty McPherson <shakerag@mtnhome.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:40 PM Subject: Re: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > Neither of these families is easy to research, Pat. Suggest you go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion. Scroll down to Elam McCracken. Then > email Helen Lease - her address is at the top of the page. She's been very > helpful to me on this Elam McCracken family. Oh, and I think you'll find > that Elam's wife's name was Algencia Maxey and she was called "Gencie." And > I also think you'll find the vast majority of records spell it Lantz. > They're not English - they apparently came from Hamburg, Germany. One gal I > know of who's top notch at the Lantz family is Joyce (Lantz) Havner. She > used to live in Mt Home, but she's not listed there in the new phone book. > Maybe someone on the list knows how to contact her. Another that's been a > big help is Linda Sheehan in Ca. if you'd like her address, I can send it > to you off list. > > Lewis D Osborne (son of Jonas & Sarah [___] Osborne) b TN 1838/9 m Margaret > L McCracken (daughter of Elam & Algencia "Gencie" [Maxey] McCracken) b TN > 1842. > > Actually, the more I dig around trying to find answers for you in the > individial family files I have (two sets - "Big Blue Book" and its > Supplement), the more confused I get (and the census records are no great > help <groan>. Why not go to the MCAR page (see URL above), print out the > Elam McCracken and Osborne families (and any others that seem to fit) and > see what you can put together. Meantime I'll spend some time digging thru > this mess and see what I can come up with. Meantime, would you share with > me what you have from Cannon Co TN, please? Working with unknowns (other > McCracken kids, for instance) can make for an awful lot of mistakes. > > And, if anyone on the list can help Pat, please do so. Thanks. > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > ********************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia Gausnell <gausnell@wmni.net> > To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:21 PM > Subject: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > > > > Thanks Mysty for your help with my CAIN line. Now I would like to ask > all for some help with another related Marion County line: > > > > Mary Susan LANCE/LANTZ (b. Dec 1854 in Mo) md James C CAIN about 1876, > probably Marion County. They lived in the James Creek Twp. Their children: > Lillie May, Amanda J., Lydia Belle, Sarah Elizabeth, Columbus Washington, > William Spencer, and Melinda Margaret. > > > > Family tradition says her parents were Nicholas Washington LANCE and > Jensee MCCRACKEN. I have seached diligently and have found no Nicholas > Washington LANCE nor a Jensee MCCRACKEN. I have found a Mary S. LANCE of > the right age and birthstate living with Elam and Jane MCracken on the 1860 > and 1870 censuses. I think she might be the daughter of their daughter Jane > McCracken, who was with them on the 1850 census of Cannon Co, TN, and does > not appear on any other records that I have found. I think she might have > md. someone named LANCE, and then died soon after Mary's birth. Jane > MCCRACKEN the wife of Elam was also called Jincy or Gencie, so either her > daughter Jane was also called that, or perhaps Mary's children just > remembered that she was raised by a woman name Jensee/Jincy/Gencie. > > > > Who was the father? I have thought he might be the son of Moses > LANCE/LANTZ of Ozark Co, MO, but which one? Was there another LANCE family > that he might have been part of? > > > > On the 1860 census of Marion Co, in Sugarloaf twp, there is a Sarah > Lance as head of household, and she has a Mary E. Lance age 4, b. ARK. This > might be my Mary, but her middle initial in wrong as is her birthstate and > year. > > > > On the 1870 census of Marion Co, in Rapps Barren Twp there is a Zelpha > (?) LANCE age 60 living near a Hardy M. and a Charles LANCE. I have > apparently found this family on the 1850 census of Cannon Co, TN with the > parents given as Henry and Zelphy LANCE. Might they have had an older son > named Nicholas Washington? > > > > Mary Susan Lance's daughter Melinda remebered that her mother had a > half-sister named Osborn. This means that either her mother or father had > another marriage. If the half-sister's maiden name was Osborn, then this > means that her mother, Jensee, remarried a man named OSBORN. But if her > married name was OSBORN, then she might have been a LANCE and md a man named > OSBORN. > > > > In the records of the Wildcat Cem, there are records of Jones Osborn > and Jency Osborn. The relative listed is SR Osborn, a great grandson. Does > anyone know who they are? > > > > I see that Jones OSBORN was married to Sarah BAILEY. Their last child > was born about 1845. Could this mean his wife died and might he have > remarried to Jency MCCRACKEN LANCE? > > > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/