>From: "frazier" <frazier@cameron.net> >To: <dott@centuryinter.net> >Subject: Epperson in Marion Co, Arkansas >Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:57:03 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > >I am searching for the obit or cemetery and location of Harrison C. >EPPERSON. He died March 6, 1882 in Marion Co, Union twp,Arkansas. He was >born in 1825-26 in Indiana or Tennessee. I can't seem to locate him. Any >help would be appreciated. Thank you. Beth Frazier

Sorry Mr Creedle, I did not know Ms Creedle. Will put this on Marion Co. List in case some one wants to help. Don >From: FredInMO@aol.com >Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:53:20 EDT >Subject: death date >To: dott@centuryinter.net >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 112 > >Will you please provide me with date of death of Loreite D. Creedle, >previously residing at 211 Alford Drive, Bull Shoals, AR. up to approximately >1988. >Thank you, >Fred Creedle Jr. >e-mail add: FredinMo@AOL.com

The Fifth Ozark Cultural Celebration will occur Friday and Saturday, September 15 & 16, at the John Paul Hammerschmidt Center, North Arkansas College, Harrison, Arkansas. Nine speakers and performers will talk about topics as diverse as the Civil War in the Ozarks and Tourism in the Ozarks. Other topics are: "The Image of the Ozarks," "Quantrill and His Guerrillas," "The Timber Industry in Searcy County," "The Williams Family" – a Civil War guerrilla band, "Ozark Tales and Legends," "The Civil War Peace Society," and "Ozark Folk Music, Songs and Ballads." There is no charge to attend any or all of the talks and performances. The only charge is $10 for dinner Friday evening to go with Kenneth Barnes' talk "The Williams Family Civil War: How an Ozark Farm Family Became a Guerrilla Band." In addition county historical and genealogical societies will have tables with information about their counties and will have publications for sale. For more information contact either: W. K. McNeil, Ozark Folk Center, Mt. View, AR 72560; 870-269-3280; or James Johnston, 2333 East Oaks Drive, Fayetteville, AR 72703; 501-442-3691; e-mail: <johnston@ipa.net>

Hi List: I have finally found a copy of the Dorman/Smith 1995 book on the Claiborne family. In checking quickly, I located one set of my Claiborne great grandparents. I never had Mary Ann Green's parents names. She married John Clayton (1813-1891) and were parents of George Archibald Claiborne. Pg. 91 - John, perhaps died in Fulton Co., AR (still looking for their grave sites). He married 21 Feb 1843 in Lauderdale Co., TN. Mary Ann was the daughter of of Archibald and Judith (Taylor) Green. John Clayton was clerk and master of the chancery Court of Gibson Co., TN in the 1840's and moved to Batesville, AR when appointed Commissioner of Deeds for the State of AR by the Governor of TN (?), was county surveyor of Izard Co., AR 1866-68, and later lived in Fulton Co., AR. Question: Would TN have appointed a position for AR? That me confused. Mysty - do you know? Judy

Prologue: Journal of the National Archives Winter 1986, vol. 18, no. 4 http://www.nara.gov/publications/prologue/fox.html Income Tax Records of the Civil War Years By Cynthia G. Fox * M755, Arkansas, 1865-1866, 2 rolls; This might be helpful to some of us looking for dead-ends.

Query: I'm looking for descendants of the Edmonds family listed on the 1880 Census of Sugar Loaf TWP, Marion County, Arkansas. John P. Edmonds, his wife Elizabeth Atkinson, and the children in their household at the time. Mary C., Flitcher, Fanny, Lucy and Elizabeth. Robert A. Moore Incline Village, Nevada

I'm not Mysty but perhaps I can help. Normally land was advertised by the Federal Government in 40 acre tracts and that was the way the tract books were laid out and that was the way they were set up to be sold at auction. Actually, the question should be - when did the law change that you did NOT have to own property to vote? From the very beginning of the settlement of the US one of the requirements of being able to vote was the ownership of land. That did not change until well into the 1800s. As for the middle initial I would be very careful to prove they are the same person. In my own research, at least, I've never found a man who used a middle initial sometimes and sometimes didn't. I have found that if a man had a middle initial he used it all the time. Odds on burned courthouses? I think most of us have that problem. Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhio <rhioreh@mail.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 4:58 AM Subject: Land purchases in AR > Mysty, > > Is there a reason why land was purchased in 40 acre plots in AR? Why > would Thomas Jefferson buy 2 40 acre plots instead of one 80 acre > plot? I seem to recall a reason for this but it escapes me. > > Also, Thomas uses his middle initial of J., sometimes, but at other > times he uses no initial. I don't find him in Rutherford Co., NC as > using his middle initial. I also haven't found any record of him owning > property in Rutherford Co., NC even though he held office in that > state. When did the law change for having to own property to vote? I > know that many of the records for Iredell Co. were burned - another > burned county. I get all the luck. Two burned counties - what are the > odds of your ancestors ending up in two burned counties? > > B) >

probably 99.99% - Ha -----Original Message----- From: Rhio <rhioreh@mail.com> To: ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Land purchases in AR >Mysty, > >Is there a reason why land was purchased in 40 acre plots in AR? Why >would Thomas Jefferson buy 2 40 acre plots instead of one 80 acre >plot? I seem to recall a reason for this but it escapes me. > >Also, Thomas uses his middle initial of J., sometimes, but at other >times he uses no initial. I don't find him in Rutherford Co., NC as >using his middle initial. I also haven't found any record of him owning >property in Rutherford Co., NC even though he held office in that >state. When did the law change for having to own property to vote? I >know that many of the records for Iredell Co. were burned - another >burned county. I get all the luck. Two burned counties - what are the >odds of your ancestors ending up in two burned counties? > >B) >

This was sent to me and I'm passing it along to all on the list. I think it would help many of us who are on the ARMARION list. B) - ------------------------------------------------------- Dear List Owner. I have started a new mailing list called AR-Cemeteries. It is a mailing list for anyone interested in locating, and preserving historical information about, Arkansas cemeteries or sharing information about them. To subscribe to this list - have your members send the word subscribe to AR-Cemeteries-L-request@rootsweb.com or AR-Cemeteries-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest form. I look forward to helping this list grow and become another tool for those researching in Arkansas. Kathleen Burnett List Mom

Mysty, Is there a reason why land was purchased in 40 acre plots in AR? Why would Thomas Jefferson buy 2 40 acre plots instead of one 80 acre plot? I seem to recall a reason for this but it escapes me. Also, Thomas uses his middle initial of J., sometimes, but at other times he uses no initial. I don't find him in Rutherford Co., NC as using his middle initial. I also haven't found any record of him owning property in Rutherford Co., NC even though he held office in that state. When did the law change for having to own property to vote? I know that many of the records for Iredell Co. were burned - another burned county. I get all the luck. Two burned counties - what are the odds of your ancestors ending up in two burned counties? B)

Sometimes Elder or Brother, but not Doctor that I've ever heard of (except when they had a doctorate degree in theology). I do know that Physician's Credentials were often recorded in books in the county courthouse. You might see if the county you're searching in has anything like this. I'd be inclined to check with researchers rather than folks in the courthouse - they're more likely to have tripped over this sort of out-of-the-ordinary source. You can connect with any county web page from http://www.usgenweb.com. Another thought is that sometimes folks named a son Doctor as a first name rather than a title. General was another given name I've run across several times. Sometimes these stuck and sometimes a middle name or nickname was commonly used instead (I can readily understand why, can't you?). Hope this is of help. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com "Genealogy without documentation is mythology" ----- Original Message ----- From: <andover-mg@juno.com> To: <shakerag@mtnhome.com> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFHA] License to Preach and Marry People > Mysty, > In your experience, have you found that ministers are referred to as > "Dr." in the mid and late 1800s? I have been trying to track down a > Dr.Jim Davis who married my great grandmother without sucess. The AMA > did not keep records that early. All I know was that the 1900 census > shows his daughter as being born in MO and her father, who was by then > dead, being born in AR. Someone told me that I might be barking up the > wrong tree thinking he was a medical doctor rather than a preacher. Any > ideas? > Thanks, > Karen > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:54:38 -0500 "Mysty McPherson" > <shakerag@mtnhome.com> writes: > >Sometimes in Arkansas, but not often, you'll find a ledger/book in > >the > >courthouse of some counties called something like "Preachers' > >Credentials." > >I found a dusty, old book like this in Marion Co, but it only had the > >credentials of maybe 8 or 10 preachers who had returned to or recently > >moved > >to Marion Co. with intentions of preaching - where they got the > >training to > >be a preacher basically. > > > >In every Arkansas county the representatives from various voting > >districts > >to the county government were called Justices of the Peace. These > >elected > >representatives had the power to perform marriages as did the county > >judge. > >Still do today, for that matter. Have no idea how things like this > >were > >handled in OK, but probably also on the county level. > > > >Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > >"Genealogy without documentation is mythology" > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: taylorgen <cybermaster@azalea.net> > >To: <AFHA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:15 PM > >Subject: [AFHA] License to Preach and Marry People > > > > > >> Is there something to fine these registry some where?' > >> For arkansas and Oklahoma. > >> Thank Joann > >> > >> > >> ==== AFHA Mailing List ==== > >> Do you have an Arkansas resource sitting on your bookshelf? > >Volunteer and > >help others by listing yourself as a Lookup Volunteer on our website. > >Just > >email us at roots@myfamily.org > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > >> RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > >> http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >> > > > > > >==== AFHA Mailing List ==== > >For your emails to go thru the list you have to be subscribed to the > >AFHA mail list To subscribe: send your emails to > >AFHA-L-request@rootsweb.com (replace the L with D for the digest mode) > >In your subject line type: subscribe (type unsubscribe if you wish to > >be removed from the list) To send your email to the list, whether you > >are on mail mode or digest mode address it to: AFHA-L@rootsweb.com > > > >============================== > >Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > >Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > >http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I'm not sure this will be of help, Delores, but this is what I've found. The surname Raines/Rains does not appear in the Marion Co 1870 census. 1880 Marion Co census for Prairie Township: #120-121 William N. Raines 30 farmer AR TN IL. Eliza 30 wife AR AR AR. William P. 8 son AR AR AR. Margaret E. 6 daughter AR AR AR. Mary A. 5 daughter AR AR AR. Martha A. 3 daughter AR AR AR. [Probably son of William M. Raines and a first wife.) #137-138 William M. Raines 52 farmer TN VA NC. Mary J. [___] [ Scott] 46 wife TN TN AL. Daniel H. 2 son AR TN TN. Samuel A. Scott 18 step-son AR AR TN. Frances Scott 20 step-daughter AR AR TN. Ellen Scott 16 step-daughter AR AR TN. [None of this family is found in the Marion Co 1900 census.] "Marion Co. 1890" by Helen McMindes (a reconstruction of the 1890 census taken from the 1880, the 1900, land, & tax records): William Newton Rains b May 1850 AR TN TN. Taxpayer in Prairie Township 1890. Eliza b Sep 1851 wife AR TN AL. Married 29 years, 8 children 6 living as per the 1900 census. William P. 18 son AR AR AR. Margaret E. b Aug 1875 daughter AR AR AR. Mary A. b June 1877 daughter AR AR AR. Martha A. 12 daughter AR AR AR. Missouri E. b March 1882 daughter AR AR AR. Joseph B. b April 1886 son AR AR AR. "Marion Co Marriage Records 1887-1896" by Marian Burnes & Vicki Roberts. Sarah E. Raines aged 17 of Bruno m MCAR 14 July 1895 Thomas William "Thomps" Harris aged 20 of Bruno. "Marion Co. Marriage Records 1896-1905" by Marian Burnes & Vicki Roberts. William P. Raines aged 26 of Eros m MCAR 1 Oct 1899 Mary J. Travis aged 24 of Eros. Nancy J. Raines aged 19 of Bruno m MCAR 25 April 1901 Sam E. Davis aged 19 of Searcy Co. AR. Mattie [Martha] Raines aged 24 of Eros m MCAR 25 Sep 1902 W. J. Martin aged 26 of Bruno. The surnames Raines/Rains does not appear in the 1860 Searcy Co. census. Searcy Co. AR 1870 census for Tomahawk Township: #6-6 Richard B. Ranes 21 MS. Louiza J. 21 AL. Nancy A. 1 AL. [This family is living in the John & Mary A Morgan (both b AL) household - probably Louiza's brother or sister] Searcy Co. AR 1880 census for Tomahawk Township: #59-74 James W. Rains 30 AL TN TN. Hannah 32 wife AL AL AL. Robert C. 3 son AL AL AL. Sarah E. 1 daughter AL AL AL. [see marriage above] [Think this may be the family you're looking for] I would judge that Richard B. and James W. are brothers. Apparently James moved his family to the Bruno area by 1895. It's obvious they weren't in the Bruno area during the 1870s and 1880s. Sorry I couldn't find more for you. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com "Genealogy without documentation is mythology" ----- Original Message ----- From: <DRAINESSUTTON@aol.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: Records: > I AM TRYING TO LOCATE RECORDS OF MY FAMILY WHO LIVED AT BRUNO THEY WERE > JAMES WILLIAM[BUD] RAINES ANY HELP APPRECIATED THANKS DOLORES >

I AM TRYING TO LOCATE RECORDS OF MY FAMILY WHO LIVED AT BRUNO THEY WERE JAMES WILLIAM[BUD] RAINES ANY HELP APPRECIATED THANKS DOLORES

Pamela, if I had a surname as well as the given names of the folks you're trying to find proof for, I might be able to help. To try to list every person residing in and/or born in the Bruno area over a 15-20-year span (1870s thru mid-1880s) would entail typing several hundred pages. I have access here at home to the 1870, 1880, 1900 census as well as the reconstructed 1890 census, marriage records 1887-1917, cemetery records, "Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900" as well as the not-yet-published supplement to this book, "History of Marion Co" and more. If you'll let me know the names, I'll be happy to see what I can do. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com "Genealogy without documentation is mythology" ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 1:54 PM Subject: Fwd: Records: > Pamela, > Birth records were not required in Arkansas until about 1914. You > may find census records for 1880 that would list these folk in Arkansas and > might indicate they were born in AR. If the parents were in the 1870 > Arkansas Census, lived in the same place in 1880 and had a child, that may > not be documentary evidence, but pretty good circumstantial evidence. I > will forward this message to the Marion county list and hope some one else > will be able to help also. > It sure might make a difference if we had a name to work with as > well as known data about them. > Don > > > > >From: "pamaddy" <pamaddy@netzero.net> > >To: <dott@centuryinter.net> > >Cc: "Pamela Diane Bobila" <pamaddy@netzero.net> > >Subject: Records: > >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:59:58 -0700 > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > > >I have been trying to find some proof of my family being born in Bruno, > >Marion Co., Arkansas, between the years of 1870's to the middle 1880's. > >Could you advise me as to where I might find some of this information if > >it exists. > > > >PAMELA >

>From: Kjbluejacket@cs.com >Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:04:00 EDT >Subject: Re: birth/death/marriages of adams/wooten/baker/avey >To: dott@centurytel.net >X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 108 > >IAM SORRY I DON'T HAVE MUCH INFO ON THESE PEOPLE. ON THE WOOTEN'S >ALL I KNOW IS MY GMOTHER WAS MOLLIE BELLE,WAS TOLD SHE HAD CHANGED HER NAME >FROM MRYTLE. SHE HAD SEVERAL SIBLINGS, RHENDIE, >BABE,SHERMAN,ALLEN,MATTIE,ETHEL,ETTIE & ELMER, THEIR PARENTS WERE JOHN L. >WOOTEN & EMMA BAKER. DON'T KNOW WHERE OR WHEN THEY WWERE MARRIED. I WAS TOLD >THAT EMMA HAD BROTHERS NAMED GEORGE & JIM. SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BURIED AT >BIG FLAT,AR. THEY TELL ME THERE >ARE NO CEM. RECORDS FOR THERE.ADAMS: MY FATHER WAS EARNEST MELTON ADAMS. HE >WAS BORN AT MARSHALL IN 1918. HIS FATHER WAS ROBERT FRANCIS, HE DIED IN 1919. >HIS PARENTS WERE WILLIAM J CAZAR & >SARA ELIZABETH AVEY. DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE MARRIED AT. I ASSUME IN >MARION CTY. ROBERT F. HAD 2 B, CORBETT LAMONT(CARBY) & >DOC RECTOR(REX) 2 S EFFIE LANORA m GEORGE MULBERRY MARGERET NEVADA (VADIE >mCLAUDE BRANTLEY. WILLIAM J PARENTS WERE MARION & >MARGERET TIPPETT. THATS ABOUT ALL I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT. > THANK YOU! > KATHY

Kathy, Our book "Marion County Families 1811-1900" is full of William and Robert ADAMS as well as WOOTEN, BAKER and AVEYs. I expect if you put some dates and identifying data with these names someone might be able to help. I will forward this to both Marion and Baxter County Lists and ask anyone who can help to contact Kathy and possibly put your answer on the list as well. Don Ott >From: Kjbluejacket@cs.com >Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:59:27 EDT >Subject: birth/death/marriages of adams/wooten/baker/avey >To: dott@centuryinter.net >X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 108 > >MY FATHER'S FAMILY WERE ALL BORN IN NW AR. I AM TRYING TO FIND RECORDS OF >WILLIAM J. ADAMS m. SARA E. AVEY, ROBERT F. ADAMS m. MOLLIE B. WOOTEN . ALSO >TRYING TO FIND ANY RECORD OF HER PARENTS, >JOHN L. WOOTEN m EMMA BAKER. MY GRANDMOTHER MOLLIE'S DEATH CERT. >SAYS EMMA WAS BORN AT BIG FLAT,AR. BUT DOES NOT SAY WHO HER >PARENTS WERE. ANY INFO YOU CAN GIVE ME WOULD BE GREATLY >APPRECIATED. THANK YOU! KATHY BLUEJACKET > >E-MAIL ADDRESS kjbluejacket@cs.com

Pamela, Birth records were not required in Arkansas until about 1914. You may find census records for 1880 that would list these folk in Arkansas and might indicate they were born in AR. If the parents were in the 1870 Arkansas Census, lived in the same place in 1880 and had a child, that may not be documentary evidence, but pretty good circumstantial evidence. I will forward this message to the Marion county list and hope some one else will be able to help also. It sure might make a difference if we had a name to work with as well as known data about them. Don >From: "pamaddy" <pamaddy@netzero.net> >To: <dott@centuryinter.net> >Cc: "Pamela Diane Bobila" <pamaddy@netzero.net> >Subject: Records: >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:59:58 -0700 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > >I have been trying to find some proof of my family being born in Bruno, >Marion Co., Arkansas, between the years of 1870's to the middle 1880's. >Could you advise me as to where I might find some of this information if >it exists. > >PAMELA

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I've spent the day cleaning out a drawer and finishing some stuff that's been hanging around for awhile. I put up a short time line of AR history if you are interested drop by: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas/learningcenter.html Enjoy Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c