I clicked onto this URL and it looks like it has a lot of good information. When I have more time this afternoon maybe, I will look it over really good. Thank you Colleen

Hi Les:--Here's what I've found in the MCAR 1870 census. Little North Fork Township: #57 Elisha Friend 30 MO. Jemima [Casebolt] 30 MO. James R 1 AR. Stephen Friend 21 AR. Serena [Casebolt] 27 MO. #60 Peter Friend 58 MO. Malinda 46 AR. Elisha 22 MO. George 16 AR. Peter 16 AR. Alexander 12 AR. Milton 11 AR. [Note: In 1860 Peter was married to Sarah and James was married to Malinda, presumably related, and were neighbors. Looks like Sarah and James died 1860-1870 and Peter and Malinda married 1860-1870. George and Peter are NOT twins; they're step-brothers and, probably, cousins.] These are the only folks from your 1880 census list found in MCAR in 1870. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com

All, Replace the = sign with - sign to correctly subscribe in either mode Dale Givens http://home.hiwaay.net/~givensod/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Rhio [SMTP:rhioreh@mail.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 5:48 AM To: ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Census LQQK-ups The following was sent to me and I am passing it along to those who might be interested in using these new CENSUS tools. Census mail lists have been created for each state. If you have census information in your possession you might want to join the list for which you have info. To sign up you have to subscribe to: XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the single mail list OR XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the digest mode. Type one word subscribe in the body of the e-mail window. THAT IS ALL. When you post queries, drop the -REQUEST and use only the L. For instance: AR-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com This will post to both mail and digest modes. (All rootsweb lists work the same for subscribing and posting.) Good Luck B) ============================================================ > This is a fairly new list. > VA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D@rootsweb.com > > This particular list is for VA lookups but every state has one. > I am not in charge of these lists am just sharing the confirmation email I > received once I signed up. > > <<<<Please feel free to forward this to anyone you feel may be interested in > joining. Of course the more people we have the more help we will be for each > other. > > CENSUS-LOOKUP Lists were > Established 11 October 2000 > > Guidelines for posting to the lists: > EMAIL SUBJECT LINES: > COUNTY,YEAR,SURNAME > > LIMIT your requests to ONE PER CENSUS YEAR and SURNAME > > A few people have emailed me asking how to sign up for the new > lists and what to do. > - - ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. All lists are > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (regular mode) > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) > > The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state > you are looking in added in its place. > > Examples: > > MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the > state). Do not put anything in the subject line. In the body of the email > write only: > > subscribe > > Then send it on :) > > 3. POSTING to the new census lists: > > A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state > code for the XX again) > > B: Subject line MUST have the following: > County/Year/Surname > > Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith > > C: In the body of the email: > > List whom you are looking for. > Supply as much information as you can. > Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. > > D: Mail it on! > > That's it folks :) > > I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes > below for you. > > AL Alabama > AK Alaska > AZ Arizona > AR Arkansas > > CA California > CO Colorado > CT Connecticut > > DC District Of Columbia > DE Delaware > > FL Florida > > GA Georgia > > HI Hawaii > > ID Idaho > IL Illinois > IN Indiana > IA Iowa > > KS Kansas > KY Kentucky > > LA Louisiana > > ME Maine > MD Maryland > MA Massachusetts > MI Michigan > MN Minnesota > MS Mississippi > MO Missouri > MT Montana > > NE Nebraska > NV Nevada > NH New Hampshire > NJ New Jersey > NM New Mexico > NY New York > NC North Carolina > ND North Dakota > > OH Ohio > OK Oklahoma > OR Oregon > > PA Pennsylvania > > RI Rhode Island > > SC South Carolina > SD South Dakota > > TN Tennessee > TX Texas > > UT Utah > > VT Vermont > VA Virginia > > WA Washington (state) > WV West Virginia > > WI Wisconsin > WY Wyoming > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-admin@rootsweb.com. > (replace XX with your state list abreviation)>>>

Hi Leslie and others, No Problem. What you need to do is subscribe to: AR-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) OR AR-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) type subscribe in the main window type nothing in the subject line and send. Post your query to both modes using: AR-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Hope this is clear. I just subscribed myself to a couple of the lists, so I'm not quite sure how things are going. I think everyone is just sharing what they have with others. We all have access to some information and together we can garner a lot. It's like having a library out there in cyberspace. Hope you get the answers to your queries. B)

Rhio I think I just goofed. I didn't read all the information on the Census look-up. -----Original Message----- From: Rhio [SMTP:rhioreh@mail.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 5:48 AM To: ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Census LQQK-ups The following was sent to me and I am passing it along to those who might be interested in using these new CENSUS tools. Census mail lists have been created for each state. If you have census information in your possession you might want to join the list for which you have info. To sign up you have to subscribe to: XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the single mail list OR XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the digest mode. Type one word subscribe in the body of the e-mail window. THAT IS ALL. When you post queries, drop the -REQUEST and use only the L. For instance: AR-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com This will post to both mail and digest modes. (All rootsweb lists work the same for subscribing and posting.) Good Luck B) ============================================================ > This is a fairly new list. > VA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D@rootsweb.com > > This particular list is for VA lookups but every state has one. > I am not in charge of these lists am just sharing the confirmation email I > received once I signed up. > > <<<<Please feel free to forward this to anyone you feel may be interested in > joining. Of course the more people we have the more help we will be for each > other. > > CENSUS-LOOKUP Lists were > Established 11 October 2000 > > Guidelines for posting to the lists: > EMAIL SUBJECT LINES: > COUNTY,YEAR,SURNAME > > LIMIT your requests to ONE PER CENSUS YEAR and SURNAME > > A few people have emailed me asking how to sign up for the new > lists and what to do. > - - ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. All lists are > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (regular mode) > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) > > The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state > you are looking in added in its place. > > Examples: > > MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the > state). Do not put anything in the subject line. In the body of the email > write only: > > subscribe > > Then send it on :) > > 3. POSTING to the new census lists: > > A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state > code for the XX again) > > B: Subject line MUST have the following: > County/Year/Surname > > Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith > > C: In the body of the email: > > List whom you are looking for. > Supply as much information as you can. > Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. > > D: Mail it on! > > That's it folks :) > > I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes > below for you. > > AL Alabama > AK Alaska > AZ Arizona > AR Arkansas > > CA California > CO Colorado > CT Connecticut > > DC District Of Columbia > DE Delaware > > FL Florida > > GA Georgia > > HI Hawaii > > ID Idaho > IL Illinois > IN Indiana > IA Iowa > > KS Kansas > KY Kentucky > > LA Louisiana > > ME Maine > MD Maryland > MA Massachusetts > MI Michigan > MN Minnesota > MS Mississippi > MO Missouri > MT Montana > > NE Nebraska > NV Nevada > NH New Hampshire > NJ New Jersey > NM New Mexico > NY New York > NC North Carolina > ND North Dakota > > OH Ohio > OK Oklahoma > OR Oregon > > PA Pennsylvania > > RI Rhode Island > > SC South Carolina > SD South Dakota > > TN Tennessee > TX Texas > > UT Utah > > VT Vermont > VA Virginia > > WA Washington (state) > WV West Virginia > > WI Wisconsin > WY Wyoming > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-admin@rootsweb.com. > (replace XX with your state list abreviation)>>>

Rhio I have been researching a John Payne, my GG-GF, who shows up in the 1880 Marion County, Franklin Township census with wife Mary, children Thomas, Martin & George. I was wondering if on the 1870 census, if any Payne's show up with Elisha Friend in James Creek or Jimmy Creek Township. I know this is a lot to ask, but I am finding the Payne/Friend families are linked quite closely. James Albert Payne shows up with Elisha Friend on the 1880 census, same county and township. Rebecca Payne (sister to John & James) is married to Elijah Friend with Daughter Ada. Same census, county and township. I have included the census. Thanks for any help. Leslie 1880 Marion County, Franklin Township As it relates to the Friend/Payne Family All these families listed are connected by marriage. 178-178 Friend, Elisha 43 frm W MO MO MO James 11 son AR MO MO Davis, Edie 30 sis W AR MO MO Nannie 10 niece AR AR MO Jefferson 8 nephew AR AR MO Stephen 5 nephew AR AR MO Payne, James 18 bdr MO MO MO (James Albert Payne who married Sarah Surillda Clark) 181-181 Friend, George 30 frm AR MO MO Orinda 25 wife AR AR AR James 8 son AR AR AR Mary J. 5 dau AR AR AR Lottie 1 dau AR AR AR 182-182 Friend, Elijah 30 frm AR MO MO Rebecca 25 wife MO MO MO (Rebecca Payne, sister to James, John & Lucinda Payne) Ada 3 dau AR AR MO Payne, Eliza 22 bdr W MO MO MO (This person was either a sister to Elijah or sister to Paynes, or the age is incorrect and she is the mother to the Payne's.) 183-183 Page 22 Payne, John 27 frm MO MO MO (John Thomas Payne, my GG-GF) Mary 25 wife MO AR IL (daughter to Martin Herron) Thomas 7 son AR MO MO Martin 5 son AR MO MO George 2 son AR MO MO 184-184 Long, Eber E. 28 frm PA MASS PA Sarah 23 wife MO AR IL (Bias) Silas E. 4 son MO PA MO Cowen, James 15 bdr AR AR AR 186-186 Long, Enoch 25 frm M-Y PA MASS PA Long, Mary 23 wife MO IL IL (daughter to Martin Herron) William 2 son AR PA MO Smith, Hannah 40 bdr MO MO MO 187-187 Herron, Martin 48 frm IL IL IL Edie 40 wife IL IL IL (Tabor) Lucinda 17 dau MO IL IL Minerva 15 dau MO IL IL Winnie 13 dau MO IL IL Louis 7 son MO IL IL Florence 2 dau AR IL IL 195-195 Henderson, John 29 frm MO TN TN (John was married twice) Lucinda 26 wife MO MO MO (Lucinda Payne, sister to the above Payne's) Nathaniel 12 son AR MO AR Thomas 9 son AR MO AR Milly 5 dau MO MO MO Mary E. 2 dau MO MO MO Sarah Ann 6 dau MO MO MO Rebecca 3/12 dau Mar MO MO MO Ellison, Mary A. 27 bdr W MO MO MO (Possibly a Payne) John F. 1/12 bdr May AR MO MO -----Original Message----- From: Rhio [SMTP:rhioreh@mail.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 5:48 AM To: ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Census LQQK-ups The following was sent to me and I am passing it along to those who might be interested in using these new CENSUS tools. Census mail lists have been created for each state. If you have census information in your possession you might want to join the list for which you have info. To sign up you have to subscribe to: XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the single mail list OR XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the digest mode. Type one word subscribe in the body of the e-mail window. THAT IS ALL. When you post queries, drop the -REQUEST and use only the L. For instance: AR-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com This will post to both mail and digest modes. (All rootsweb lists work the same for subscribing and posting.) Good Luck B) ============================================================ > This is a fairly new list. > VA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D@rootsweb.com > > This particular list is for VA lookups but every state has one. > I am not in charge of these lists am just sharing the confirmation email I > received once I signed up. > > <<<<Please feel free to forward this to anyone you feel may be interested in > joining. Of course the more people we have the more help we will be for each > other. > > CENSUS-LOOKUP Lists were > Established 11 October 2000 > > Guidelines for posting to the lists: > EMAIL SUBJECT LINES: > COUNTY,YEAR,SURNAME > > LIMIT your requests to ONE PER CENSUS YEAR and SURNAME > > A few people have emailed me asking how to sign up for the new > lists and what to do. > - - ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. All lists are > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (regular mode) > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) > > The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state > you are looking in added in its place. > > Examples: > > MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the > state). Do not put anything in the subject line. In the body of the email > write only: > > subscribe > > Then send it on :) > > 3. POSTING to the new census lists: > > A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state > code for the XX again) > > B: Subject line MUST have the following: > County/Year/Surname > > Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith > > C: In the body of the email: > > List whom you are looking for. > Supply as much information as you can. > Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. > > D: Mail it on! > > That's it folks :) > > I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes > below for you. > > AL Alabama > AK Alaska > AZ Arizona > AR Arkansas > > CA California > CO Colorado > CT Connecticut > > DC District Of Columbia > DE Delaware > > FL Florida > > GA Georgia > > HI Hawaii > > ID Idaho > IL Illinois > IN Indiana > IA Iowa > > KS Kansas > KY Kentucky > > LA Louisiana > > ME Maine > MD Maryland > MA Massachusetts > MI Michigan > MN Minnesota > MS Mississippi > MO Missouri > MT Montana > > NE Nebraska > NV Nevada > NH New Hampshire > NJ New Jersey > NM New Mexico > NY New York > NC North Carolina > ND North Dakota > > OH Ohio > OK Oklahoma > OR Oregon > > PA Pennsylvania > > RI Rhode Island > > SC South Carolina > SD South Dakota > > TN Tennessee > TX Texas > > UT Utah > > VT Vermont > VA Virginia > > WA Washington (state) > WV West Virginia > > WI Wisconsin > WY Wyoming > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-admin@rootsweb.com. > (replace XX with your state list abreviation)>>>

The following was sent to me and I am passing it along to those who might be interested in using these new CENSUS tools. Census mail lists have been created for each state. If you have census information in your possession you might want to join the list for which you have info. To sign up you have to subscribe to: XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the single mail list OR XX-CENSUS=LOOKUP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for the digest mode. Type one word subscribe in the body of the e-mail window. THAT IS ALL. When you post queries, drop the -REQUEST and use only the L. For instance: AR-CENSUS=LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com This will post to both mail and digest modes. (All rootsweb lists work the same for subscribing and posting.) Good Luck B) ============================================================ > This is a fairly new list. > VA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D@rootsweb.com > > This particular list is for VA lookups but every state has one. > I am not in charge of these lists am just sharing the confirmation email I > received once I signed up. > > <<<<Please feel free to forward this to anyone you feel may be interested in > joining. Of course the more people we have the more help we will be for each > other. > > CENSUS-LOOKUP Lists were > Established 11 October 2000 > > Guidelines for posting to the lists: > EMAIL SUBJECT LINES: > COUNTY,YEAR,SURNAME > > LIMIT your requests to ONE PER CENSUS YEAR and SURNAME > > A few people have emailed me asking how to sign up for the new > lists and what to do. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. All lists are > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (regular mode) > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) > > The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state > you are looking in added in its place. > > Examples: > > MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the > state). Do not put anything in the subject line. In the body of the email > write only: > > subscribe > > Then send it on :) > > 3. POSTING to the new census lists: > > A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state > code for the XX again) > > B: Subject line MUST have the following: > County/Year/Surname > > Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith > > C: In the body of the email: > > List whom you are looking for. > Supply as much information as you can. > Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. > > D: Mail it on! > > That's it folks :) > > I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes > below for you. > > AL Alabama > AK Alaska > AZ Arizona > AR Arkansas > > CA California > CO Colorado > CT Connecticut > > DC District Of Columbia > DE Delaware > > FL Florida > > GA Georgia > > HI Hawaii > > ID Idaho > IL Illinois > IN Indiana > IA Iowa > > KS Kansas > KY Kentucky > > LA Louisiana > > ME Maine > MD Maryland > MA Massachusetts > MI Michigan > MN Minnesota > MS Mississippi > MO Missouri > MT Montana > > NE Nebraska > NV Nevada > NH New Hampshire > NJ New Jersey > NM New Mexico > NY New York > NC North Carolina > ND North Dakota > > OH Ohio > OK Oklahoma > OR Oregon > > PA Pennsylvania > > RI Rhode Island > > SC South Carolina > SD South Dakota > > TN Tennessee > TX Texas > > UT Utah > > VT Vermont > VA Virginia > > WA Washington (state) > WV West Virginia > > WI Wisconsin > WY Wyoming > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-admin@rootsweb.com. > (replace XX with your state list abreviation)>>>

Hi all, Knowing there are NOWLINs around, I'm posting this message that came to me from somone in FLA. Please write directly to Natalie for information regarding this photo she found in an antique store. B) ============================================================ > natwick wrote: > natwick@home.com > I noted that one of the family surnames you have is NOWLIN.� I > recently was in an antique store in Chipley, Florida north of where I > live in Panama City, Florida.� I found this beautiful picture with the > following on the back:� C.H. Nowling, Hesper, or Hasper, KS; and dated > June 7, 1888.� The gentleman in the picture looks like he was very > slim; has a nice haircut with sideburns and a mustache.� The picture > is in excellent condition and I would love to get it into the hands of > someone who wants it.� If you know anyone who can prove a connection, > please tell them they can have the picture for the price I paid, $3.50 > plus shipping.� Natalie

Hi Mysty! The Strawberry begins near Wheeling in south Fulton County and flows southeastward across the northeast corner of Izard County, entirely across the middle of Sharp County, across the southwest corner of Lawrence County and just nips into extreme northeast Independence County before flowing into the Black River at a point about equidistant from Alicia, Cord, Saffell and Swifton. My mother used to splash in the small brook that became the Strawberry when she was a child a mile or two west of Wheeling. (All county names are the present day names; for historical county names, place your bets and pick your years.) Just to further muddy the water so to speak, there is a town called Strawberry located in southwest Lawrence County about a mile south of the Strawberry River. -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robert@wildweasel.net http://www.wildweasel.net -----Original Message----- From: Mysty McPherson [mailto:shakerag@mtnhome.com] Sent: Saturday, 04 November 2000 00:16 To: ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Strawberry River Recently someone asked whether Strawberry River is in Marion Co. AR. Well, sort of - at one time - sort of. Way back before Marion Co became a county (1836), it was at one time part of Lawrence Co. Strawberry River was in Lawrence Co. in 1850 and may still be there. Hope this helps. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com

I'm pretty sure, Kelly, that you'll find some references to Talbert's Ferry and to the early Talbert settlers of Marion Co in the manuscripts of Silas Claiborne Turnbo. If you'll go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion, the Marion Co AR web page, you'll find a searchable link there to all 28 volumes of Turnbo's manuscripts. This family removed to Baxter Co AR when it was created in part from Marion Co in 1873. Many of their descendants are still in the area. "Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900" has a short bit of history prefacing this family genealogy: "Sim," "Fed," and "Wat" Talbert came to AR from KY in the 1820s with their sister Nancy who married John Hargrave of Izard Co. AR. "Fed" settled on White River between Cotter and (now) Bull Shoals Dam. They were friends with the Delaware Indians and Chief Johnny Cake. Started Talbert's Ferry which later became Mooney's Ferry. Charley and "Sim" had the first mail contract ca 1880. Frederick Benton Talbert Sr. b Orange Co VA 24 March 1771 d MCAR 22 Jan 1842 bu Talbert Cemetery m Greenville, Green Co TN 20 Aug 1790 Elizabeth Wilhoit (daughter of Conrad Reuben & Elizabeth [Broyles] Wilhoit) b Culpepper Co VA 1772 d Union Co IL 26 July 1811. Their children were: Frederick Benton "Fed" Talbert Jr b TN 1795 d Baxter Co AR 1883. Nancy Talbert b TN 3 July 1797 d Mountain Home, Baxter Co AR 15 Nov 1879. Simeon Wilhoit "Sim" Talbert b TN 1800 d MCAR 4 Nov 1852. Walter Mathew "Wat" Talbert Sr. b TN May 1802 d Baxter Co AR 1904. Basil Talbert Sr b TN 1807. Hope this is helpful. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com

Marion County List, please respond to Kellie if you have data on Talbert's Ferry and also put it on the list for general information. Don Kellie, The old ford where Indians crossed the White River, and it is believed that DeSoto also crossed at the same place, and where whites entered into early Marion County Arkansas from the east was called Talbert's ferry. It was somethimes called Mooney's Ferry and later called Denton's Ferry. The road to and from on both sides of the river is now known as Denton's Ferry Road. Of course all ferrys have been replaced by bridges now. The Cherokee "Trail of Tears" crossed the White River at this point, they spent Christmas 1838 camped at the site. Arkansas became a state in 1836, I note the following Talberts in the 1840 Marion County Census as Head of Household. Bozzle Talburt (Bye the way the names are often spelled Talbert as well) Frederick Talburt G.W. Talburt Walter Talburt In the 1850 Cencus I find: John H. Tolbert, a farmer, don't know if that is same folk as above. I will put this response on the Marion County List and hope that others can give you additional insight as to the naming of Talbert's ferry. Don Ott At 10:13 PM 02-11-00 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Sir: >I am searching for information regarding my Talbert ancestors and am curious >if you know why this area is named Talbert Ford? > >Any information that you may have would be most appreciated. > >Sincerely, >Kellie Talbert Kintz >kelkintz@aol.com

Recently someone asked whether Strawberry River is in Marion Co. AR. Well, sort of - at one time - sort of. Way back before Marion Co became a county (1836), it was at one time part of Lawrence Co. Strawberry River was in Lawrence Co. in 1850 and may still be there. Hope this helps. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com

Found a really neat site. This site lets you enter dates for your ancestor and builds you an individual time line for the dates you enter. It even lets you enter personal events in your ancestor's life and those will be added into the time line. You can print it or copy and save it for use in your own genealogy. What a deal !!!! http://www.ourtimelines.com/ Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl

Hi everyone: Some of you have been on the list for a long time and may remember a year or so ago I mentioned I wanted to set up an area where we could list the migration pattern of our Marion Co ancestors. Well I just got too busy with the move and everything else to get it done and it's been nagging at me. It need not nag at me anymore - Patrick Hays of the USGenWeb project has done what I wanted to do and has set up a migration web site for all states and counties YEA!!! Go here and check it out. Add all of your Marion Co Ancestors. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~arkbios/migration/Arkansas.html Have fun! Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl

Linda: Thanks for the Web site. I put into my favorites and am anxious to get in there and really look good. Also thanks for the beautiful Thanksgiving page again. I can't help it I have to play the song again and again. Also thanks for putting my Great Grand Parents in the Obit Column (Mike Yocham and Nancy Jane Bevins Yocham. I'll bet you are happy that someone else got the web page together. I would be because that is a lot of work. And I wouldn't even know where to start. It is not my bailiwick. Colleen

I love the holidays and have my Thanksgiving pages up for Marion Co AR. Even if you don't have family there please drop by for a visit. http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl

Halloween is over and it's time to begin to think of Thanksgiving. If you would like to "get in the mood" I invite you to drop by my home page. Enjoy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl

If you can help Pat please remember to respond to her at: anglers@bullshoals.net Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Curtis <anglers@bullshoals.net> To: <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:38 AM Subject: Look-up Marion Co.,AR > I am looking for a listing of William MOORE. > > He was born abt 1789 in NC (family history said VA but 1850 Census says NC). > He was in Marion Co.,AR with his first wife and 5 sons and 1 daughter before > 1835. We do not know his first wife's name or the names of all his children > by this first marriage. > > He then married an Anna McPHERSON whose family moved from NC to Strawberry > River area around 1828. Anna and William had 3 sons-- > > The family history said that the McPHERSONS traveled through White County > and settled in Marion County near Strawberry River, which was located in > Marion County Arkansas. > > Was there a "Strawberry River" in Marion Co., AR ca 1820/30? > > William Moore's children were: (don't know his first wife's name) > Joe b abt 1820 (do not know where) > Solomon Roe b abt 1825 in AR > Freeland (maybe called Frank) do not know when or where he was born > unknown son > unknown son > unknown daughter > > 2nd wife-- Anna McPHERSON > Noah b abt 1835 in Marion Co.,AR > Alford McPHERSON b 10-Mar-1838 in Marion Co.,AR > John H. b 18-Mar-1841 in AR > Any help will be much appreciated. > > Also the family history is that he was visiting his older children, family > in Marion Co.,AR after 1850 and died there. We do not know the date or where > he was buried. > > What are we searching for....? Anything I can about William; the name of his > first wife, names of his children, when he came to AR, the marriage date > with Anna, when did he die, where is he buried. > > Do you know of anyone researching the MOORE'S in Marion Co.,AR? > > I noticed a Mysty McPherson, as doing look-ups, and had met her years ago at > my place of business and thought just maybe Anna McPHERSON who married > William MOORE, might be a relative. > > Please contact me, if there is anyone in the area that knows of this family. > > Pat Curtis e-mail address is: or phone 445-4390. > anglers@bullshoals.net > > > >

Linda has made her point eliquinly and I agree. Concider all the magazines on the coffee table etc. which are costly and sometimes we hardly glance at before the next issue arrives. As to Ancestry for a couple of years before I subscribed I received their free online newsletter which daily announced what they were putting online and would be available free of charge for 10 days before being available only on the pay site. I'm not advocating that everyone join Ancestry or other such sites just that it has been money well spent for me and much more than some of the magazines laying in the basket that I have spent more on than Ancestry and received little value for. As Linda said, make a trip to a library or courthouse, then consider how much your gas, lunch, copies, etc. costs. This is just a day trip. If it's a distance add a motel, then rethink the cost of a pay online site and you've got a bargain. I challenge anyone to try to do research in another country and find anything free. I have purchased some material and do free lookups in the county where I live although my family only came to this area in the late 1930's and this area is not of interest to me genealogically. It's just a way of passing it on. Let us all be thankful for the many things that are online free and count our blessings. BTW did some of you know that this list is really not free? Your listowner makes and annual donation to keep it free for the list members. Ann Bohannon McDonald Searcy Co.,AR listmanager ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Haas Davenport" <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:07 AM Subject: Pay to use sites > I'd like to toss out my 2 cents worth on the "pay for view" sites. No > actually I want to get on my "soap box". Feel free to hit the delete key now > if you wish. > > I've been a genealogist for many years, way before the web was in existence > and I can tell you that it was a time consuming, frustrating and very > expensive hobby. I spent untold dollars getting copies of things and even > more untold hours waiting for replies - some of which never came. The yearly > fees for places like Ancestry are trivial compared to the money I spent in > the past. > > I don't know why so many people think that genealogy information should be > free no matter what. Would any of us walk into McDonalds expecting to > receive our food for free just because eating is required to stay alive? Or > do we expect our doctor to treat us for free? Or our accountant to do our > taxes for free. Or more to the point - do we all expect to get out of bed > every day and go spend 8 hours at our job and not have a pay check on > Friday? Of course not. > > So why do so many people expect the sites that are putting information on > line to be free? Let us all remember that it takes a lot of human labor to > transcribe records and a lot of expensive computer equipment to get them > on-line and keep them on-line. These businesses are in **Business** and as > such must make a profit or they will not be able to stay in business. And, > since their business is making old records available to the public we would > all be the losers if they were to close down. > > Yes, there are a few sites like Family Discover.com that are scams but they > are very few, at least so far. And, yes there are sites like the USGenWeb > Project where volunteers get information on-line for free, but where are the > volunteers that are needed to get as much information on-line as such places > as Ancestry? > > I've been the hostess of the Marion Co site for almost 3 years now and in > that time I can count on one hand (with fingers left over) the number of > people who have offered to help me transcribe records, or walk a cemetery or > copy an old book. I can tell you that I have spent hundreds of hours > transcribing, formatting and getting on line the information you find on the > Marion Co site. I'm not complaining because I took on the job knowing that I > would have to do the majority of the work. But, the information on the > Marion Co site is a rain drop in the ocean compared to such places as > Ancestry. > > If every single genealogist would take one roll of microfilm from the LDS > Library and transcribe the entire roll and let it be put on-line then there > would be no reason for the pay per view sites. But, you see that hasn't, and > won't, happen. > > In my experience, about 97% of family hunters are only interested in their > own families and not interested at all in investing a lot of hours to > transcribe records that are not directly related to their own families. > > So before we all grip and complain about having to pay to access information > let's all stop and think about where we would be if the information was not > available? I know where I would be - right back to paying for every copy, > not being able to take off from work to visit a library or struggling to > find time after work to visit the LDS family centers. > > And last, but not least. This discussion has come and gone on many e-mail > lists and there is always someone who says they cannot afford to pay for a > subscription service. I can only say that in every instance where that > comment was made, there were several offers from people, like me, who are > more than willing to look up the information needed on the pay for view > sites and pass it along. > > OK I'm off my soap box now and off to work. Everyone have a good day. > > Linda > > lhaasdav@mindspring.com > Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas > Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion > List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c > Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at > http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl > > >

OZARK CULTURAL CELEBRATION 2000: The fifth unique event will occur September 15 & 16, 2000 at the John Paul Hammerschmidt Center, North Arkansas Community College, Harrison, AR. There will be speakers and some music and it is all free except the catered dinner Friday evening. All events will take place at the North Arkansas Community College. It is all free except the dinner. Historical/Genealogical societies in the area will have booths. The program is: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:00 am The Image of the Ozarks Brooks Blevins, Lyon College 11:00 am The Civil War in the Ozarks Fred Berry, North Arkansas Community College 1:30 pm Quantrill and His Guerrillas Rosemary Lankford, Independence County 2:30 pm The Timber Industry in Searcy County, Arkansas David Treat, Searcy County 5:30 pm The Williams Family Civil War: How an Ozark Farm Family Became a Guerrilla Band with dinner Kenneth C. Barnes, University of Central Arkansas Saturday, September 16, 2000 9:30 am Tourism in the Shepherd of the Hills Country 1880s-1939s Lynn Morrow, Missouri State Archives 10:30 am Ozark Tales and Legends Dorethea Shipman, Marion County 12:30 pm The Civil War Peace Society: Secret Unionists in the Ozarks James J. Johnston, Searcy County 1:30 pm Ozark Folk Music, Songs and Ballads Tara Sky. To sign up for the dinner Friday evening, send before September 8, $10 per person to: Darlinda Sanders Sanders Farms Rt 1 Box 238 Western Grove, AR 72685 Checks must be postmarked by September 8 and made payable to Sanders Farms. Note that the payment is for the Ozark Cultural Celebration. JJJ