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I know that in one of the counties of my ancestors, the 1890 census was not done, burned or something but unavailable. Can someone tell me if it's a certain northern Arkansas County or is it all counties that the census was not taken in Arkansas in 1890??? Thanks, Judy

http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion Select Turnbo Stories from the main page. have fun Linda lhaasdav@mindspring.com Home.page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion.Co.AR http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion List hostess for -h.a.a.s/l.e.w.a.l.l.e.n/w.a.s.h.i.n.g.t.o.n n.c Interested in Construction? Check out my new book - "The Scopes of Work" at http://www.builderbooks.com/bbstore/index.icl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ginaburningsky@aol.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen > what is the link to the Turnbo Manuscripts? > > Visit my homepage at > http://hometown.aol.com/ginaburningsky/myhomepage/business.html > <A HREF="http://burningskyenterprises.com/">Burningskyenterprises.com</A> > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Thanks for the response and tip. Will continue searching. JuneTo: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Surnames > These are newcomers to Marion Co AR. They're not here in 1870. > > Marion Co 1880 census for Sugar Loaf Township. > #254-264 William Harrelson 32 TN TN TN. > Annie 30 wife AL AL AL. > William 12 son MO TN AL. > Michael 8 son MO TN AL. > Thomas 2 son AR TN AL. > > "Marion County AR 1890" by Helen McMindes p 112. > J G (Jack?) Harrelston 1860 MO MO GA. Blythe Township. > Martha wife April 1862 MO TN TN (m12y, 3c, 3 lvg as per 1900 census). > Johnnie son Aug 1890 AR MO MO. > > "Marion Co Marriage Records 1896-1905" by Marian Burnes & Vicki Roberts p > 38. > W J Green aged 35 Yellville m MCAR 10 March 1901 Nannie Harrelson aged 21 of > Dodd City. > > Sorry, but it looks like you need to concentrate on MO and Boone Co AR. > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > ******************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: June Jenkins <chickeng@ix.netcom.com> > To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:28 AM > Subject: Surnames > > > > Surname in Marion Co.--HARRELSON. Willing to share info. > > June > > ______________________________

Surname in Marion Co.--HARRELSON. Willing to share info. June

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These are newcomers to Marion Co AR. They're not here in 1870. Marion Co 1880 census for Sugar Loaf Township. #254-264 William Harrelson 32 TN TN TN. Annie 30 wife AL AL AL. William 12 son MO TN AL. Michael 8 son MO TN AL. Thomas 2 son AR TN AL. "Marion County AR 1890" by Helen McMindes p 112. J G (Jack?) Harrelston 1860 MO MO GA. Blythe Township. Martha wife April 1862 MO TN TN (m12y, 3c, 3 lvg as per 1900 census). Johnnie son Aug 1890 AR MO MO. "Marion Co Marriage Records 1896-1905" by Marian Burnes & Vicki Roberts p 38. W J Green aged 35 Yellville m MCAR 10 March 1901 Nannie Harrelson aged 21 of Dodd City. Sorry, but it looks like you need to concentrate on MO and Boone Co AR. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ******************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: June Jenkins <chickeng@ix.netcom.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: Surnames > Surname in Marion Co.--HARRELSON. Willing to share info. > June

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What are Turbos Tales Of the Ozarks? Would there be any information On The Risenhoover family?? Micheal Risenhoover, JesseRisenhoover ect? Thanks for answering and or checking. Melodee Melnsam123 @aol.com

Melody, go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion, scroll down to and click on "Turnbo Tales," and you'll have searchable access to all 28 volumes of Turnbo's manuscripts. A portion of these was transcribed ages ago and titled "Turnbo's Tales." This is the best way I know of to find out if there's anything there on the Risenhoover family. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ******************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <Melnsam123@aol.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen > What are Turbos Tales Of the Ozarks? Would there be any information On The > Risenhoover family?? Micheal Risenhoover, JesseRisenhoover ect? Thanks for > answering and or checking. Melodee Melnsam123 @aol.com

Yes, Turnbo is really difficult to read - and understand - sometimes. I've gone back over some of that stuff a dozen times trying to make heads or tails out of it. The head archivist with the MO State Archives, Lynn Morrow, co-authored a really interesting book, "White River Chronicles of S C Turnbo," that explains tons about the contents of the Turnbo manuscripts. Matter of fact, Lynn did the indexing for the manuscripts for the Internet. Glad you figured it out so quickly. Takes some of us forever <grin> Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ***************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Gausnell <gausnell@wmni.net> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:56 PM Subject: MCCracken > Dear Mysty, > Regarding my mistake on Mary Elizabeth MCCRACKEN. Here is where I got that. In the SC Turnbo Stories, the one called "Brief Items of Interest Which Occurred At Yellville and on Jimmies CreeK in the Long Ago." > I see now what caused my confusion. I went back and read it again. Turnbo was quoting Billy Parker when he said, "My wife whose name in Elizabeth and who is a daughter of Elam McCracken..." This was written in a different paragraph than the beginning of the quotation,and I didn't realize he was still quoting Parker. Silly me! Will have to get that changed. Thanks. > Pat

Pauline, I do not have Turnbo's tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen, but this is my G Grandfather and I have everything he has written or most of it. What do you need? Also his stories are The Turnbo Manuscripts on the web. It might be easier for you to look at that PaulineWS@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have access to Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen? > I have several reference and would really appreciate it if you could do a > lookup for me. > Thank You, > Pauline > PaulineWS@aol.com > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/

Dear Mysty, Regarding my mistake on Mary Elizabeth MCCRACKEN. Here is where I got that. In the SC Turnbo Stories, the one called "Brief Items of Interest Which Occurred At Yellville and on Jimmies CreeK in the Long Ago." I see now what caused my confusion. I went back and read it again. Turnbo was quoting Billy Parker when he said, "My wife whose name in Elizabeth and who is a daughter of Elam McCracken..." This was written in a different paragraph than the beginning of the quotation,and I didn't realize he was still quoting Parker. Silly me! Will have to get that changed. Thanks. Pat

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Have no record, Thelma, of any Lantz branch leaving the Ozark area for Nebraska. Just to totally confuse you on this family, the first Lantz I know of came from Hamburg, Germany, by 1780 and married in New Jersey. Somewhere between 1800 and 1808 they moved to Ohio. By 1826 one branch had gone to Missouri, and ended up in the Ozarks. By 1832 one branch had gone to Tennessee and ended up in the Ozarks. Where else they may have scattered to is anyone's guess <groan>. Sounds to me like the four winds would be as good a starting place as any <haha>. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ************************************************ ----- Original Message ----- From: Thelma Nation <tnation@panhandle.net> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > Did your Lantz family go west, like NE? And do you have a Harry Lantz? I am > not sure where the Sioux Co., NE Lantz family came from but could find out. > Thelma Nation > Harrison NE

I have some information on the John Jacob Lentz who married Mary Yost. If you need that. They had a daughter Elizabeth Lentz who married John Peter Klutz> They had a daughter Rebecca Klutz who married James Madison Dodd who resided in and died in Marion Co., Ark. mcentire@redrock.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mysty McPherson" <shakerag@mtnhome.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: LANTZ > Have no record, Thelma, of any Lantz branch leaving the Ozark area for > Nebraska. Just to totally confuse you on this family, the first Lantz I > know of came from Hamburg, Germany, by 1780 and married in New Jersey. > Somewhere between 1800 and 1808 they moved to Ohio. By 1826 one branch had > gone to Missouri, and ended up in the Ozarks. By 1832 one branch had gone > to Tennessee and ended up in the Ozarks. Where else they may have scattered > to is anyone's guess <groan>. Sounds to me like the four winds would be as > good a starting place as any <haha>. > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > ************************************************ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thelma Nation <tnation@panhandle.net> > To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:02 AM > Subject: Re: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > > > > Did your Lantz family go west, like NE? And do you have a Harry Lantz? I > am > > not sure where the Sioux Co., NE Lantz family came from but could find > out. > > Thelma Nation > > Harrison NE > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Does anyone have access to Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen? I have several reference and would really appreciate it if you could do a lookup for me. Thank You, Pauline PaulineWS@aol.com

Pauline, if you'll go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion, scroll down to and click on Turnbo Tales, you'll have searchable access to all 28 volumes of the Silas Claiborne Turnbo manuscripts. Have fun :-))) and good luck in your search. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ***************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <PaulineWS@aol.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen > Does anyone have access to Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen? > I have several reference and would really appreciate it if you could do a > lookup for me. > Thank You, > Pauline > PaulineWS@aol.com

You can surname search the Turnbo Manuscripts at http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org Click on Local History, then click on Turnbo Manuscripts, then click on key word search. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PaulineWS@aol.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen > Does anyone have access to Turbo's Tales of the Ozarks by Desmond Walls Allen? > I have several reference and would really appreciate it if you could do a > lookup for me. > Thank You, > Pauline > PaulineWS@aol.com > > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/ >

Did your Lantz family go west, like NE? And do you have a Harry Lantz? I am not sure where the Sioux Co., NE Lantz family came from but could find out. Thelma Nation Harrison NE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mysty McPherson <shakerag@mtnhome.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:40 PM Subject: Re: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > Neither of these families is easy to research, Pat. Suggest you go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion. Scroll down to Elam McCracken. Then > email Helen Lease - her address is at the top of the page. She's been very > helpful to me on this Elam McCracken family. Oh, and I think you'll find > that Elam's wife's name was Algencia Maxey and she was called "Gencie." And > I also think you'll find the vast majority of records spell it Lantz. > They're not English - they apparently came from Hamburg, Germany. One gal I > know of who's top notch at the Lantz family is Joyce (Lantz) Havner. She > used to live in Mt Home, but she's not listed there in the new phone book. > Maybe someone on the list knows how to contact her. Another that's been a > big help is Linda Sheehan in Ca. if you'd like her address, I can send it > to you off list. > > Lewis D Osborne (son of Jonas & Sarah [___] Osborne) b TN 1838/9 m Margaret > L McCracken (daughter of Elam & Algencia "Gencie" [Maxey] McCracken) b TN > 1842. > > Actually, the more I dig around trying to find answers for you in the > individial family files I have (two sets - "Big Blue Book" and its > Supplement), the more confused I get (and the census records are no great > help <groan>. Why not go to the MCAR page (see URL above), print out the > Elam McCracken and Osborne families (and any others that seem to fit) and > see what you can put together. Meantime I'll spend some time digging thru > this mess and see what I can come up with. Meantime, would you share with > me what you have from Cannon Co TN, please? Working with unknowns (other > McCracken kids, for instance) can make for an awful lot of mistakes. > > And, if anyone on the list can help Pat, please do so. Thanks. > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > ********************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia Gausnell <gausnell@wmni.net> > To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:21 PM > Subject: LANCE/LANTZ/MCCRACKEN > > > > Thanks Mysty for your help with my CAIN line. Now I would like to ask > all for some help with another related Marion County line: > > > > Mary Susan LANCE/LANTZ (b. Dec 1854 in Mo) md James C CAIN about 1876, > probably Marion County. They lived in the James Creek Twp. Their children: > Lillie May, Amanda J., Lydia Belle, Sarah Elizabeth, Columbus Washington, > William Spencer, and Melinda Margaret. > > > > Family tradition says her parents were Nicholas Washington LANCE and > Jensee MCCRACKEN. I have seached diligently and have found no Nicholas > Washington LANCE nor a Jensee MCCRACKEN. I have found a Mary S. LANCE of > the right age and birthstate living with Elam and Jane MCracken on the 1860 > and 1870 censuses. I think she might be the daughter of their daughter Jane > McCracken, who was with them on the 1850 census of Cannon Co, TN, and does > not appear on any other records that I have found. I think she might have > md. someone named LANCE, and then died soon after Mary's birth. Jane > MCCRACKEN the wife of Elam was also called Jincy or Gencie, so either her > daughter Jane was also called that, or perhaps Mary's children just > remembered that she was raised by a woman name Jensee/Jincy/Gencie. > > > > Who was the father? I have thought he might be the son of Moses > LANCE/LANTZ of Ozark Co, MO, but which one? Was there another LANCE family > that he might have been part of? > > > > On the 1860 census of Marion Co, in Sugarloaf twp, there is a Sarah > Lance as head of household, and she has a Mary E. Lance age 4, b. ARK. This > might be my Mary, but her middle initial in wrong as is her birthstate and > year. > > > > On the 1870 census of Marion Co, in Rapps Barren Twp there is a Zelpha > (?) LANCE age 60 living near a Hardy M. and a Charles LANCE. I have > apparently found this family on the 1850 census of Cannon Co, TN with the > parents given as Henry and Zelphy LANCE. Might they have had an older son > named Nicholas Washington? > > > > Mary Susan Lance's daughter Melinda remebered that her mother had a > half-sister named Osborn. This means that either her mother or father had > another marriage. If the half-sister's maiden name was Osborn, then this > means that her mother, Jensee, remarried a man named OSBORN. But if her > married name was OSBORN, then she might have been a LANCE and md a man named > OSBORN. > > > > In the records of the Wildcat Cem, there are records of Jones Osborn > and Jency Osborn. The relative listed is SR Osborn, a great grandson. Does > anyone know who they are? > > > > I see that Jones OSBORN was married to Sarah BAILEY. Their last child > was born about 1845. Could this mean his wife died and might he have > remarried to Jency MCCRACKEN LANCE? > > > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/