Lindy, If you find data on these folk would like to get in the loop. John James "Jack" Briggs b. ca 1861 was married to Edith Almeda Brooksher. They had a son Garland Cecil Briggs b. 22 Jun 1909 in Yellville, Marion, Arkansas who married Nina Joyce OTT. After Garland Cecil died in 1939 Joyce Ott married Karl Keeter. Joyce Ott is from my line of Otts. Don Ott At 02:58 PM 28-11-01 -0500, you wrote: >There is a John J. Briggs listed on the 1900 Marion County census. He is 39 >yrs old and born in AR. His father was born in South Carolina and mother in >AR. He has been married for 18 yrs and his wifes name is Edith. Does anyone >have any additional info on him? Parents names? Trying to determine if he >ties into the James Y Briggs or Andrew J Briggs lines. > >Lindy > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

There is a John J. Briggs listed on the 1900 Marion County census. He is 39 yrs old and born in AR. His father was born in South Carolina and mother in AR. He has been married for 18 yrs and his wifes name is Edith. Does anyone have any additional info on him? Parents names? Trying to determine if he ties into the James Y Briggs or Andrew J Briggs lines. Lindy

Sure does tie in, Lindy. To Andrew J Briggs anyway. John James "Jack" Briggs (son of John Wright & Mary Magdalene "Polly" [Hurst] Briggs) b MCAR 23 Nov 1860/1 d MCAR 6 April 1946 bu Georges Creek Cemetery m MCAR 4 Dec 1882/3 Edith Almeda Brooksher (daughter of William Riley & Hester Barilla [Hefner] Brooksher) b GA 30 July 1861 d MCAR 2 Sep 1930 bu Georges Creek Cemetery. In Union Township 1900. FYI, this info comes from "Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900" by Mysty McPherson & Vicki Roberts. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: <LindyT@aol.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: John J. Briggs > There is a John J. Briggs listed on the 1900 Marion County census. He is 39 > yrs old and born in AR. His father was born in South Carolina and mother in > AR. He has been married for 18 yrs and his wifes name is Edith. Does anyone > have any additional info on him? Parents names? Trying to determine if he > ties into the James Y Briggs or Andrew J Briggs lines. > > Lindy

You are cordially invited to spend a few minutes getting into the Holiday Spirit at my Homepage and the Marion Co AR page. Enjoy. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N

Sorry Mysty...the virus was the magistr 32 something or another. The subject line was some8X (speed eight)...with the attachment. The virus was in the attachment. The fellows email address was eblyman@mediaone.net. That's all I can give ya at this moment off the top of my head. Bren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mysty McPherson" <shakerag@mtnhome.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Re: edward lyman > It would really be helpful if you could give us the name of this virus, > Brenda. Or even part of the name. The "some8x" doesn't help - nor does the > name of the person you received it from (Edward Lyman). If you're having > problems, contact the list owner, Rhio Gillis rhioreh@mail.com. > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > ******************************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brenda Whitson <dixichic@chariot.net.au> > To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:21 PM > Subject: edward lyman > > > > Hey folks...just wanted to drop a line to everyone with a word of warning. > Thank goodness for the anti virus software!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Received my emails from folks today and received one from this edward lyman > fellow...the subject line was: some8X (eight speed)...the attachment was > carrying a nasty virus and I am very happy the anti virus software picked it > up straight away and got rid of it. Does anyone know of this > fellow??????????????? PLEASE BEWARE!!! > > > > Hope everyone has a fantastic day, > > Brenda > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

Kevin, below is what I have about Jackson M Morgan and Alexander Morgan. I had looked up these brothers about a month ago for Reba RAlsup2@aol.com. You may want to contact her. I'm also including some information sent to the list by Gary Treat gdtreat@yahoo.com. I believe the town you're talking about is Yellville - not Yelleman - Arkansas. It's the county seat for Marion Co. We do not have a Duty Cemetery in Marion Co - nor one that even sounds anything like that. There is a Lutie Cemetery in the area; I'm pretty sure it's in Baxter Co AR, out neighbor to the east. Hope some of this is helpful to you. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com 1 JACKSON M. MORGAN b TN 1823 m NANCY ___ b TN 1827. In Union Township 1880. 2 ALEXANDER MORGAN b TN 1818/1825 m SARAH JANE___ b TN/AL 1840/1856. In Buffalo Township and Bearden Township 1880. 1 Children of Jackson & Nancy (___) Morgan 3 DILLARD J. MORGAN b TN 1858. 2 Children of Alexander & Sarah Jane (___) Morgan 4 SIDNEY A. MORGAN b TN April 1862 m MCAR Aug 1886 SARAH E. (DAVIS) BUNDY (daughter of John Davis, widow of Thomas J. Bundy) b AR May 1860/61. In Crooked Creek Township 1900. (see Bundy family page 49) 5 ELLER MORGAN b TN 1872. 6 WILLIAM MORGAN b MCAR 1875/6. 7 SAMUEL ALLEN MORGAN b MCAR 1877/8. Children of Sidney A. & Sarah E. (Davis) (Bundy) Morgan 8 JULIA MORGAN b MCAR July 1889 m MCAR 31 July 1904 ZENITH HALL (son of George Washington & Mary Susan [Wood] Hall) b MCAR May 1877. (see Hall family page 163) 9 CALLIE M. MORGAN b MCAR Jan 1899. SOURCE: Marion Co. AR 1880 census; "Marion County AR 1890" by Helen McMindes; "Marion County Marriage Records 1896-1905" by Marian Burnes & Vicki Roberts; Gary Treat <gdtreat@yahoo.com> This is from Gary Treat: Hi Reba, In addition the information that Mysty provided, here is what I have on the family of Sydney MORGAN and his wife Sarah DAVIS. Hope it's helpful. Gary Treat Sarah E DAVIS (John DAVIS1) was born MAY 1860/1861 in AR. She married Thomas J BUNDY, son of James BUNDY and Mahala Malvina HALL. He was born ABT 1852 in IN. She married Sidney A MORGAN AUG 1886 in Marion Co,AR. He was born APR 1862 in TN. Children of Sarah E DAVIS and Thomas J BUNDY are: + 2 i. Edgar Luther BUNDY was born 12 FEB 1879 in AR, and died 12 MAR 1966 in Henryetta,Okmulgee Co,OK. He was buried in Whitefield,Haskell Co,OK. He married Essie JONES 18 SEP 1898 in Marion Co,AR, daughter of Marion Francis JONES and Celia COX. She was born 8 JUL 1882 in AR, and died 20 DEC 1908 in Henryetta,Okmulgee Co,OK. She was buried in Whitefield,Haskell Co,OK. He married May ??? ABT 1910. She was born ABT 1884 in TX. 3 ii. Laura Belle BUNDY was born 16 NOV 1882 in AR. She married James WILLIAMS 27 MAR 1902 in Marion Co,AR. He was born ABT 1876. Children of Sarah E DAVIS and Sidney A MORGAN are: + 4 i. Julia MORGAN was born JUL 1889 in AR. She married Zenith HALL 31 JUL 1904 in Marion Co,AR, son of George Washington HALL and Mary Susan WOOD. He was born MAY 1877 in AR. 5 ii. Callie M MORGAN was born JAN 1899 in AR. ************************************************************************ ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Haas Davenport <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Morgans Hi Kevin. If I've already answered this please just chalk it up to old age <g>. I'm forwarding your message to the Marion Co list and hopefully someone there will be able to help you. Good Luck. Folks please remember to reply directly to Kevin (address below). Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N **************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: RetreadKM@aol.com To: lhaasdav@mindspring.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Morgans I am Kevin Morgan. I live in Indiana. My ancestor, Allen Morgan, had two Brothers move to your area in the 1800's. They are Jackson M and Alexander Morgan. I have learned from a relative in Randolph County Ar. that Jackson M died at Yelleman, Ar in 1894 and is buried at Duty Cemetery in Marion Co. Ar.. Possibly Alexander is too. I would like to find these Morgans and make contact with the families today and take them back through the line to TN and Virginia. Can you help me? Thank you. I do have a fax at 317-889-5365

Hi Kevin. If I've already answered this please just chalk it up to old age <g>. I'm forwarding your message to the Marion Co list and hopefully someone there will be able to help you. Good Luck. Folks please remember to reply directly to Kevin (address below) Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N ----- Original Message ----- From: RetreadKM@aol.com To: lhaasdav@mindspring.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Morgans I am Kevin Morgan. I live in Indiana. My ancestor, Allen Morgan, had two Brothers move to your area in the 1800's. They are Jackson M and Alexander Morgan. I have learned from a relative in Randolph County Ar. that Jackson M died at Yelleman, Ar in 1894 and is buried at Duty Cemetery in Marion Co. Ar.. Possibly Alexander is too. I would like to find these Morgans and make contact with the families today and take them back through the line to TN and Virginia. Can you help me? Thank you. I do have a fax at 317-889-5365

It would really be helpful if you could give us the name of this virus, Brenda. Or even part of the name. The "some8x" doesn't help - nor does the name of the person you received it from (Edward Lyman). If you're having problems, contact the list owner, Rhio Gillis rhioreh@mail.com. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ******************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda Whitson <dixichic@chariot.net.au> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:21 PM Subject: edward lyman > Hey folks...just wanted to drop a line to everyone with a word of warning. Thank goodness for the anti virus software!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Received my emails from folks today and received one from this edward lyman fellow...the subject line was: some8X (eight speed)...the attachment was carrying a nasty virus and I am very happy the anti virus software picked it up straight away and got rid of it. Does anyone know of this fellow??????????????? PLEASE BEWARE!!! > > Hope everyone has a fantastic day, > Brenda > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Hey folks...just wanted to drop a line to everyone with a word of warning. Thank goodness for the anti virus software!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Received my emails from folks today and received one from this edward lyman fellow...the subject line was: some8X (eight speed)...the attachment was carrying a nasty virus and I am very happy the anti virus software picked it up straight away and got rid of it. Does anyone know of this fellow??????????????? PLEASE BEWARE!!! Hope everyone has a fantastic day, Brenda

Thanks for warning us Brenda. That name hasn't come up on my e-mail yet, but will watch out for it. Glad your anti virus protector picked up on it. Colleen in California

Hi Folks! I imagine that most of us doing genealogy probably use Windows 95 or Windows 98 as our computer operating system. This is something I ran across in the Eastman Genealogy Newsletter that you may find of some interest. * Microsoft Pulls Plug on Windows 95/98 Microsoft recently introduced Windows XP with a lot of fanfare. However, the company has been a bit quieter about its announcement to cancel support for older operating systems. Starting next month, Microsoft will begin pulling the plug on support for Windows 95 and Windows 98. Support is an expense for Microsoft. It can maximize its profits by shutting down support for older products and pushing everyone towards buying newer, supported Microsoft products. There's nothing new here hundreds of other software companies have made similar support decisions on older versions of their programs. Buried deep in the Windows XP announcements you can find a note that Microsoft will cease to provide support for MS DOS, Windows 3.xx, and Windows NT 3.5x in December, 2001. At the same time, support will become limited for Windows 95. In June 2002, Microsoft will cease to provide full support for Windows 98 and Windows NT version 4.0. This will leave the overwhelming majority of current Windows users without operating system support. So what's the big deal? You probably don't call Microsoft for support now. Any time you have a question you probably ask a friend, a relative, a co-worker or perhaps you post a message on one of the online forums. Since you never ask Microsoft for support, you might feel that this issue will not affect you. Keep in mind, however, that the companies that produce your favorite software depend upon Microsoft a lot more than you do. They not only have "how-to" questions, but they also depend upon bug fixes and support alerts. None of those will be forthcoming in the future for the older versions of Windows. Only Windows ME, Windows 2000 and Windows XP will be supported. If these companies cannot obtain needed support, they may not be able to produce software for your system. I wouldn't be surprised to see software listed within the next year that is certified to operate only on Windows XP, 2000 and ME. All older versions of Windows will be unsupported. If you install a program on Windows 98 and then encounter a problem, the producing company may not be able to help you. Microsoft has moved to a standard 3-year product lifecycle now. That's all that anyone can expect to get by way of formal support from Microsoft for all their products. The company will offer limited "extended support" available another year; "extended support" is a synonym for "paid support" on a per-call basis. In other words, have a credit card handy when you call for assistance. One side note: Microsoft's "Desktop Product Lifecycle Guidelines" affect all of their products, not just operating systems. Similar policies have been implemented (or will soon be implemented) on Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Money, Flight Simulator and hundreds of other programs produced by the company. If you want to see when Microsoft will pull the plug on support for your software, look at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycleconsumer.asp and at http://support.microsoft.com/directory/discontinue.asp. -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: mailto:robert@wildweasel.net Web site: http://www.wildweasel.net/

> Neither William "Dancin' Bill" or "Billy" Wood nor his wife Hannah (Austin) > Wood was killed in the Mountain Meadow Massacre in 1857. "Dancin' Bill" d > MCAR at the home of his daughter Winnie in 1865 aged 90. <<<The children of William "Dancin' Bill" or "Billy" and Hannah (Austin) Wood are:  James A "Jim" Wood b 1800/10 m Redissa "Dicy" Trimble;  George Washington Wood b 1805 m Nancy Jane Coker;  Elizabeth "Betsy" Wood b 1808 m David Stinnett;  John W "Old Johnny" Wood b 1814/5 m Mary Jane Hudson;  Solomon M "Bud" Wood b 1818 m Martha "Patsy" Magness;  Obediah Wood b 1821 m/1 Susan A Gray m/2 Susan Bushwell m/3 Lulu (Swilling) (Thurl) Coats;  Charity Wood b 1823 m James "Limber Jim" Wood. >>>>>>>>>> Mysty, I'm confused. You said that Dancin Bill Wood died at his dau Winnie's home, but there isn't a Winnie listed with his children. Is there a typo? Susan (desc from Jim Wood and Dicey Trimble and related to half of Marion Co < g> Thank goodness for Turnbo's) FOSTER, NIPPS, WOOD, TRIMBLE, SANDERS, and many more

Hi Stephanie:--Was checking out the queries on the MCAR web page and saw yours (see below). I think I can, again, be of some help to you in your research confusion. With at least six Wood families in MCAR and no county records before Aug 1887, researching this surname can be quite an undertaking. Obediah Wood, the known progenitor of this family, is often given the first name of William. However, research back thru his Revolutionary War records indicates his given name was Obediah, not William. His nickname was "Revolutionary." He was born NC 1758 and died MCAR 1845. The known sons of Obediah "Revolutionary" Wood and his unknown first wife are: William "Dancin' Bill" or "Billy" Wood Sr b 1775 m Hannah Austin; George Wood Sr b 1780 m/1 ___ m/2 Mary ___; John Wood d 1812/14; James "Rosin' the Bow" Wood b 1786 or 1792 m/1 ___ m/2 Elizabeth ___; Benjamin "Cedar Ben" Wood b 1795/8 m Milly Jackson. The known daughters of Obediah "Revolutionary" Wood and his second wife Polly Norton are: Charity Wood b 1820 m John Quincy Adams; Winnie Wood b 1824 m Michael "Mike" Mathis; Mary "Polly" Wood b 1826 m William C Brashears. These three daughters are half-sisters to the sons listed above. Documentation for "Old Johnny" being the nickname of John W "Old "Johnny" Wood, son of William "Dancin' Bill" or "Billy" and Hannah (Austin) Wood, can be found in the manuscripts of Silas Claiborne Turnbo. These manuscripts are online and are searchable. There is a link to them on the MCAR web page. Neither William "Dancin' Bill" or "Billy" Wood nor his wife Hannah (Austin) Wood was killed in the Mountain Meadow Massacre in 1857. "Dancin' Bill" d MCAR at the home of his daughter Winnie in 1865 aged 90. Hannah d MCAR in 1870 before the census was taken. [AR 1870 Mortality Schedule] William Edward Wood, son of George Washington & Nancy Jane (Coker) Wood, and Solomon R Wood, son of George Washington & Nancy Jane (Coker) Wood, are the only descendants of Obediah "Revolutionary" Wood known and proven to have been killed in the Mountain Meadow Massacre. There are several very informative and factual links to this tragic event on the Carroll Co AR web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcarroll. Both of these men were nephews of John W "Old Johnny" Wood. The children of William "Dancin' Bill" or "Billy" and Hannah (Austin) Wood are: James A "Jim" Wood b 1800/10 m Redissa "Dicy" Trimble; George Washington Wood b 1805 m Nancy Jane Coker; Elizabeth "Betsy" Wood b 1808 m David Stinnett; John W "Old Johnny" Wood b 1814/5 m Mary Jane Hudson; Solomon M "Bud" Wood b 1818 m Martha "Patsy" Magness; Obediah Wood b 1821 m/1 Susan A Gray m/2 Susan Bushwell m/3 Lulu (Swilling) (Thurl) Coats; Charity Wood b 1823 m James "Limber Jim" Wood. The children of John W "Old Johnny" & Mary Jane (Hudson) Wood are: Thomas B Wood b 1834 m Mary Jane Everett; William Wood b 1835 m ___; John B Wood b 1836 m Nancy Ann Everett; Nancy Elizabeth Wood b 1835 m Frederick Benton "Fed" Talbert Jr; James Wood b 1841/2 d 1863; Lucinda Wood b 1843 m Ezekial W "Zeke" Hampton; Araminta Wood b 1846/7 m John Henry Wood; George Wood b 1850; Obediah Wood b 1853 m/1 Susan Conger m/2 ___; Mary Wood m ___; Jeff Wood. Hope this helps to clear up some of your confusion, Stephanie. Many, many researchers have worked many, many years sorting out this Obediah Wood family. This is about the most up to date, well-documented information available at this point in time. If I can be of further help, please let me know. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ****************************************************** WOOD posted by Stephanie on Saturday, November 10, 2001. WOOD Old Johnny was his Nickname (Some have said) JOHN W. WOOD was b 1815 Anderson Co. Tenn; d CW (bushwhacked). m c1832 Ark, Mary Jane Hudson They're in 1850, 1860 Marion County, but I don't find Mary there in 1870 John W. Wood's father was William "Dancin Bill" Wood mother Hannanh Austin (They were Killed in the Mountain Meadow Massacre heading for California ) These are the Brother's of "Dancin Bill" -Benjamin "Cedar Ben" Wood -George Sr. Wood -James "Rosin' the Bow" Wood -Thomas D. Wood * I have seen other's post a sister also? Children of John and Mary Jane ~ 1. Thomas D b. 1834 d 1882 Tex. m Mary Jane Everett 2. William b. 1835 3. John B. b. 1838 m. 1867 Nancy Everett 4. Elizabeth b. 1839 5. James b. 1841 6. Luncinda b. 1843 m. Ezekial W. "Zeke" Hampton 7. Arminta b. 1846 m. John Henry Wood (First Cousin's) 8. George b. 1850 - not with family in 1860. 9. Obediah b. 1853 10. Mary b. 1955 m. a man from Yell Co Ark. These are the brother's and sister's of John W. "Old J! ohnny" Wood I have found so far... -Winnie Wood -Elizabeth Wood -James A "Jim" Wood There is a Obediah Wood I found in Yell Co. Arkansas b. November 2, 1821 Anderson Co. TN. m. Sarah A. Gray (Is he William Obediah Wood?) Obediah is connected to the Wood's in Marion Co but how ??? His second son John Henry married Old Johnny's daughter Arminta --They were to be first Cousin's John Henry and Arminta-- Please- Anyone that is related to these Wood's Please can you Help me in any shape or form to Stack this "Wood Pile" up Nice and Neat...Or get me in Contact with other's that are related to these "Wood's" There has been several people connected to these 'wood's" I have tried to contact but, their e-mail address is no-longer valid Thanks Kindly- Stephanie

Can anyone help Lois, please answer direct to her. Don >Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:51:35 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: loiscarmack@hotmail.com Sat Nov 17 18:51:35 2001 >X-Originating-IP: [216.63.63.35] >From: "Lois Carmack" <loiscarmack@hotmail.com> >Old-To: ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com, ARBAXTER-L@rootsweb.com, >ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com >Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:51:35 -0600 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2001 01:51:35.0663 (UTC) >FILETIME=[8E2497F0:01C16FD3] >Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Longbottom Creek, AR >To: ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/49068 >X-Loop: ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: ARIZARD-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Hi Everyone, > >I think I have posted this before, but will try again. > >My grandfather, Willis aka Poppy Merriman was born in June 1903 at >Longbottom Creek, Marion Co AR. He told me this himself many years ago >before he died in 1984. > >Does anyone know where this is located? Would love to locate his birthplace. > >Thanks, >Lois > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >==== ARIZARD Mailing List ==== >Questions about Rootsweb? Go to: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/index.htm >

Several people on the Arkansas Family History Association list AFHA-L@rootsweb.com have the "AR Death Index" by Desmond Walls Allen. They are willing to do lookups. This is a subscription list - you have to "subscribe" in order to get on the list. Instructions for this process can be found at the Arkansas Family History Association web site. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ******************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Haas Davenport <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 5:18 AM Subject: Re: Good Morning Linda... Failed E-mail - Marion Co Look-ups > So far no one has been able to find a good address for her nor has anyone > come forward who has the AR Death Index to do a look-up. I'm very sorry. > > Linda > homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas > MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ > SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N >******************************************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SEADOOGTS@aol.com> > To: <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 AM > Subject: Good Morning Linda... Failed E-mail - Marion Co Look-ups > > > Linda > > > > Betty Milton Doyle's e-mail failed! > > > > This is the error I received.... > > The original message was received at Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:26:35 -0500 (EST) > > from root@localhost > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > <beverly@cyberback.com> > > > > She listed for --- AR Death Index - AR Archives (Remember Marion Co names > > ONLY) > > Is there any one else I could get this info from? > > > > Thanks- > > Stephanie

So far no one has been able to find a good address for her nor has anyone come forward who has the AR Death Index to do a look-up. I'm very sorry. Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N ----- Original Message ----- From: <SEADOOGTS@aol.com> To: <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Good Morning Linda... Failed E-mail - Marion Co Look-ups > Linda > > Betty Milton Doyle's e-mail failed! > > This is the error I received.... > The original message was received at Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:26:35 -0500 (EST) > from root@localhost > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > <beverly@cyberback.com> > > > She listed for --- AR Death Index - AR Archives (Remember Marion Co names > ONLY) > Is there any one else I could get this info from? > > Thanks- > Stephanie

Craig, It is extremely obvious that your mother, whom I assume taught you your manners, did not grow up in Marion County Arkansas. If she did you did not listen. We have an extremely capable group of family researchers who work with anyone who is interested in Marion County history and genealogy. However, those who send their first message for help, complaining about what we do not have or do not do is likely to receive little help for the natives and those who have chosen to live here. I encourage you to ask for help in a kind and gentle manner and say thank you often and you will be amazed what those of us who do hours of free research, daily and weekly, for "nice folk" will do. Maybe you need to subscribe to the Marion County List, and ask your question again, nicely this time, please. Don Ott

be nice Don, I think he just meant he could not find it through another source or find a map for it....I am not from there but family from a neighbor county' and I am always amazed at the information you guys have. You have good sources and a great person taking care of your site. But the whole world is not aware of it. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ott" <dott@centurytel.net> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:31 PM Subject: Marion County Arkansas > Craig, > It is extremely obvious that your mother, whom I assume taught you your > manners, did not grow up in Marion County Arkansas. If she did you did not > listen. We have an extremely capable group of family researchers who work > with anyone who is interested in Marion County history and genealogy. > However, those who send their first message for help, complaining about > what we do not have or do not do is likely to receive little help for the > natives and those who have chosen to live here. I encourage you to ask for > help in a kind and gentle manner and say thank you often and you will be > amazed what those of us who do hours of free research, daily and weekly, > for "nice folk" will do. > Maybe you need to subscribe to the Marion County List, and ask your > question again, nicely this time, please. > Don Ott > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

As you have probably discovered, Craig, there are two types of townships referred to in researching around here. One is the township in the Section-Township-Range land description. It's always numerical and never, ever changes. The other is the township which has a name (such as White River or Sugar Loaf or Union etc in MCAR). These are political subdivisions created for equalization of population for voting purposes. The boundaries of these townships change as new townships are created for equalization purposes. These are the ones referred to in census records. The plat map of MCAR at http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion indicates the first type of township. Best of all, this plat map was printed before the creation of Bull Shoals Lake so that locating specific pieces of land before then can be done even though they're now under water. Also on the Marion Co web page is a brief history of the second type of township with the date of its creation, which townships were created from it and when, and what their various names are. The book "Map Guide To United States Federal Census 1790-1920" by Thorndale and Dollarhyde is an excellent source for determining when a county was created and what counties were created from it. Most libraries have this. It's marvelous with both visual and text explanations. As for changes to Marion County - it was created 3 Nov 1835 from Lawrence Co under the name of Searcy Co. The name was changed to Marion Co Co 29 Sep 1836. Searcy Co was again created 13 Dec 1838 from the lower part of Marion Co. To the east, Baxter Co was created in part from Marion Co 24 March 1873 (taking roughly the portion from White River to Mountain Home). To the west, Boone Co was created in part from Carroll Co 9 April 1869, but for several years there was some confusion over just where the Marion/Boone line was so research along the western MCAR boundary can be quite confusing for a while. Plat books similar to what you describe have been printed in recent years by a company in, I believe, Missouri. The county tax assessor often has a copy as do the local land abstractors. I gather they're rather expensive for what they are so they're not readily available. I can check the name of the company if you'd like. Doubt seriously they go back in time anywhere near the early days - probably only into the middle 1900s would be my guess. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Blyeth <cblyeth@yahoo.com> To: Mysty McPherson <shakerag@mtnhome.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: Plat Maps > Mysty, the type of map I mean is in the form of a > bound county atlas book, which each township on a > separate page, and the farm acreages outlined with the > name of the farm owner in it (obviously, in more urban > areas like towns, just the streets and buildings/homes > are shown but not the owners' names). > > As I mentioned in my previous post, I'd found them in > southwest MI going back to 1860. I know there > wouldn't be anything that early in AR. These appear > to have been sold to area farmers, who, for an extra > fee I guess, could have an engraving of their house > and/or farm made and a small version included on the > respective page in the atlas. I was able to get a > great drawing of one ancestor's home that way. > > One thing I have done is to go to the BLM website and > pull up all the homestead grants by twp/range for my > ancestors' locations in MCAR. I obtained a fairly > large scale govt. map from a university library and > drew in the various farms based on the locations given > in the grants. It sure showed that they didn't look > far for spouses in the old days! > > Unfortunately, my oldest ancestors in the region seem > to have settled in a location that was a couple other > counties before it was Marion, then changed to Carroll > and Boone (or maybe it's the other way around - I > can't keep track!) so that makes it even trickier for > looking things up. > > I am gratefully aware of the 'blue Bible' you helped > put together. My distant cousin-in-law, Jackie > Nielson, submitted information on our common Blyeth > ancestors and I had a good chance to look through it > for information when I visited her in Utah last Dec. > It's a great book and one that I sure wish other > groups would adopt for a no nonsense look at regional > family histories! > > If you do find out anything about the exsistence of > these old atlas maps, please do let me and everyone > know. They seem to have been somewhat common in > northern midwestern states; I even ran across them > from the 1960s, so I guess they have remained popular > for farmers to check on how much land their neighbors > own or whatever. > > Thanks again! > > Craig Blyeth > --- Mysty McPherson <shakerag@mtnhome.com> wrote: > > I'm not quite sure exactly what you mean by a plat > > map, Craig, so I'm not > > real sure how to answer your question. > > > > At http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion under Land > > Records there is a plat map > > of Marion Co AR. There is also an excellent > > explanation of how these maps > > work. These are used in public domain states such > > as Arkansas. This means > > the Section-Township-Range system is used for land > > descriptions rather than > > the metes and bounds system used in eastern states. > > When Arkansas Territory > > became the State of Arkansas in 1836, all the land > > was surveyed and the > > original survey is still in existence, including all > > the notes the surveyors > > made. > > > > If the type of plat map you're looking for is the > > one that indicates exactly > > where your ancestors' land was, I'm pretty sure > > there aren't any all in one > > book for Arkansas. Sometimes these can be found on > > the county level and > > sometimes the abstractors in a county will have > > them. However, as land > > ownership changes, these maps are replaced by more > > up to date ones and, > > unfortunately, the out of date ones are usually > > discarded. (Those > > interested in gathering taxes aren't necessarily > > interested in nor concerned > > about historical value <drat>). Even if they had > > once existed, I doubt > > you'd ever find a plat map indicating land ownership > > as early as 1860 for > > Arkansas. So far as I know, even the AR History > > Commission doesn't have > > them. The earliest one anyone has found for Marion > > Co, for example, has no > > date but is estimated to be approximately 1916 - and > > it's about 3' x 5' and > > hangs on the wall. Mostly they burned in court > > house fires, were trashed, > > the mice munched them to shreds, or someone just > > took them home. > > > > If you'll tell me exactly what you're looking for, > > I'll check with the > > county and the abstractors to see what they can tell > > me. > > > > As for researching Newton, Blythe, Wood, Williams > > and allied families, in > > 1997 the Historic Genealogical Society of Marion Co > > published "Genealogies > > of Marion County Families 1811-1900." This covers > > roughly 400 families that > > settled here before 1900, is indexed, hard bound, > > Smythe sewn, 8.5 x 11, > > over 650 pages, cross-references to spouse families, > > and sources where data > > was found. It is *not* your typical "history" book > > - it contains no > > pictures, no family stories and legends. It's > > strictly genealogical. All > > four of the families you mentioned are quite > > thoroughly covered are in it. > > > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > > ************************************************* > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Linda Haas Davenport <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> > > To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:45 AM > > Subject: Question for the list > > > > > > > If any one can help Craig please remember to > > respond to him directly > > > cblyeth@yahoo.com. However, this is a good > > question that a lot of people > > > will probably be interested in so please also > > answer on the list. > > > > > > Thanks a million > > > > > > Linda > > > homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas > > > MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ > > > SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N > > > > > > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Craig Blyeth" <cblyeth@yahoo.com> > > > To: <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:36 AM > > > Subject: QExpress for Marion County, Arkansas ( > > BLYETH WOODS NEWTON > > > WILLIAMS ) > > > > > > I'd like to know if any county atlas plat maps for > > Marion Co., AR exist or > > > were ever printed? I've recently discovered these > > indredible sources of > > > information while doing onsite genealogical > > research in MI and am hoping > > > that similar atlases were printed in AR as well. > > I realize MCAR was (and > > > is) more rural than the MI counties I am > > researching, but I'm hoping to > > find > > > such an atlas. The oldest I've seen in MI is from > > 1860 - obviously I > > > wouldn't expect one from that era down south. > > > > > > > > If anyone can post this for me on the MCAR email > > ring, I'd greatly > > > appreciate it. I've submitted several queries to > > it but they never show > > > up - maybe it has something to do with emailing > > them from yahoo...who > > knows. > > > > > > > > I'm also continuing (mostly in vain, it seems!) > > for my BLYETH, NEWTON, > > > WOODS, WILLIAMS and allied ancestors from MCAR, in > > case anyone out ther is > > > seeking or has info on these families. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any info! > > > > > > > > Craig Blyeth > > > > San Francisco, CA > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com

I'm not quite sure exactly what you mean by a plat map, Craig, so I'm not real sure how to answer your question. At http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion under Land Records there is a plat map of Marion Co AR. There is also an excellent explanation of how these maps work. These are used in public domain states such as Arkansas. This means the Section-Township-Range system is used for land descriptions rather than the metes and bounds system used in eastern states. When Arkansas Territory became the State of Arkansas in 1836, all the land was surveyed and the original survey is still in existence, including all the notes the surveyors made. If the type of plat map you're looking for is the one that indicates exactly where your ancestors' land was, I'm pretty sure there aren't any all in one book for Arkansas. Sometimes these can be found on the county level and sometimes the abstractors in a county will have them. However, as land ownership changes, these maps are replaced by more up to date ones and, unfortunately, the out of date ones are usually discarded. (Those interested in gathering taxes aren't necessarily interested in nor concerned about historical value <drat>). Even if they had once existed, I doubt you'd ever find a plat map indicating land ownership as early as 1860 for Arkansas. So far as I know, even the AR History Commission doesn't have them. The earliest one anyone has found for Marion Co, for example, has no date but is estimated to be approximately 1916 - and it's about 3' x 5' and hangs on the wall. Mostly they burned in court house fires, were trashed, the mice munched them to shreds, or someone just took them home. If you'll tell me exactly what you're looking for, I'll check with the county and the abstractors to see what they can tell me. As for researching Newton, Blythe, Wood, Williams and allied families, in 1997 the Historic Genealogical Society of Marion Co published "Genealogies of Marion County Families 1811-1900." This covers roughly 400 families that settled here before 1900, is indexed, hard bound, Smythe sewn, 8.5 x 11, over 650 pages, cross-references to spouse families, and sources where data was found. It is *not* your typical "history" book - it contains no pictures, no family stories and legends. It's strictly genealogical. All four of the families you mentioned are quite thoroughly covered are in it. Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Haas Davenport <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> To: <ARMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Question for the list > If any one can help Craig please remember to respond to him directly > cblyeth@yahoo.com. However, this is a good question that a lot of people > will probably be interested in so please also answer on the list. > > Thanks a million > > Linda > homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas > MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ > SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Blyeth" <cblyeth@yahoo.com> > To: <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:36 AM > Subject: QExpress for Marion County, Arkansas ( BLYETH WOODS NEWTON > WILLIAMS ) > > I'd like to know if any county atlas plat maps for Marion Co., AR exist or > were ever printed? I've recently discovered these indredible sources of > information while doing onsite genealogical research in MI and am hoping > that similar atlases were printed in AR as well. I realize MCAR was (and > is) more rural than the MI counties I am researching, but I'm hoping to find > such an atlas. The oldest I've seen in MI is from 1860 - obviously I > wouldn't expect one from that era down south. > > > > If anyone can post this for me on the MCAR email ring, I'd greatly > appreciate it. I've submitted several queries to it but they never show > up - maybe it has something to do with emailing them from yahoo...who knows. > > > > I'm also continuing (mostly in vain, it seems!) for my BLYETH, NEWTON, > WOODS, WILLIAMS and allied ancestors from MCAR, in case anyone out ther is > seeking or has info on these families. > > > > Thanks for any info! > > > > Craig Blyeth > > San Francisco, CA > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >