I've just learned of the death of Dr. Jean Roberts, wife of Micheal Dwight Roberts, in Topeka KS. My Aunt Jean was a beautiful, sweet woman who had a lot of pain since being diagnosed with breast cancer and is in the loving arms of Christ now and will never hurt again.Micheal is the son of Binum Dixon Roberts and Nola Mildred (Ott) Roberts, both of Marion County. I seem to recall that Jean was an Arkie too, but I can't remember her birthplace. I'll post an obit ASAP.Micheal's going through a lot right now, and prayers are greatly appreciated. Darren HellwegeColumbia MO http://okstate.fansonly.com/okst-mem.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Doshier Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mV.2ADE/126 Message Board Post: There will be a grave marker dedication ceremony for Henry Doshier (ca 1834 - 1909) at Wickersham Cemetery (Yellville, Ar) on Sunday May 25, 2003 at 1:30pm.

OK, Don. I'll try to clarify. These two men are NOT one-and-the-same. They were somehow confused in Big Blue. So ignore what was said about them in Big Blue 'cuz it's not correct. William J "Squirrel Bill" Wood b GA ca 1811 m Pamela ___ b TN ca 1815. In Union Township MCAR 1840 with 2 males under 5, 2 males 20-30, 1 female 20-30, and 1 female 15-20. In Union Township MCAR 1850. This man is NOT a descendent of Obediah Wood. Their known children are James Franklin "Frank" Wood b 1838, Martin J Wood b 1842; Nancy J Wood b 1844, William B "Dick" Wood b 1845, Sarah E Wood b 1846, Hannah Agnes Wood b 1849. This family is not found in the MCAR 1860 census, although children are here in 1870 which indicates they were probably in MO during the war years. Parents for William J "Squirrel Bill" Wood are not known at this time. William A Wood Jr b Anderson Co TN 1800/10 is the son of William "Dancin' Bill" & Hannah (Austin) Wood. He married MCAR Elizabeth "Betsy" Goodman/Coker who was born in AL 1808 and died in AR (no death date found). He died during the Civil War 1861-1865. No military service has been verified for him. Their known children are Elizabeth J Wood b 1842, Araminta Wood (no birth date found). As I said, it's entirely possible that Joe Dempsey Coker and [Mary?] Brown (daughter of Bob Brown) are the parents of Elizabeth "Betsy" Goodman/Coker. It's also entirely possible that Mary is a sister to Girard Leiper Brown (see MCAR Families). This Brown family was quite close to the Buck Coker family, often intermarrying. However, Joe and Mary were married in Knox Co TN ca 1808. Mary died in TN in childbirth in 1811. Joe then went to AL to join his brother Leonard. While there he married Ainey/Anna ___, a Cherokee, b Tuscaloosa AL 1802. Leonard reportedly brought Joe's children and slaves to AR ca 1814 (see Turnbo). Joe and Ainey/Anna came to AR sometime after Leonard. Their first child probably was Catherine Jane Coker b 1829 in AR. Of course, none of this takes into consideration that Cynthia Rogers, based on the known birth dates of her children, some in AR, was probably Joe's 2nd wife rather than his third. This would lead one to think that Joe probably married Ainey/Anna in AR rather than AL. And here's where the real confusion gets totally out of hand <groan>. Even though we've not found any hard, cold facts to verify just who Elizabeth "Betsy" is, I'm inclined to think she's the daughter of Joe and Mary. Just as I'm inclined to think Mary is a sister to Girard Leiper Brown. Like I said, I hate to think I'm perpetuating age old errors. I'm a firm believer in documentation rather than supposition or wannabe-ism. Hope this helps, Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ott" <[email protected]> To: "Mysty McPherson" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [ARMar] William "Squirrel Bill" Wood > Well yes I am confused, I do show William A. "Squirrel Bill" > Wood b. ca 1815 Anderson TN, and show him married to Elizabeth "Betsey" > Goodman also of Tennessee. Yes, I show him the son of William A. "Dancing > Bill" and Hannah Austin Wood. I think you are telling me that is correct. > (Even if born in 1815, he would have been to old to be drafted for the > Civil War. Maybe he was killed although not in the service.) > Now, I do not show a father for the William J. "Squirrel Bill" > Wood b. ca 1811 in Georgia married to Elizabeth "Betsy" Coker, daugher of > Joseph Dempsey "Joe" Coker and Mary Ann Brown. This is the one, I think, > that you say married Pamela b. TN ca 1815. I have always thought that > Elizabeth might have been born before they were married or about the same > time. This could have been a rush wedding, maybe he was only 20 or so. You > know that is lethal age. > Joseph Dempsey "Joe" Coker was born 1787, married 1807/08 in > Alabama. In fact I thought he married his second wife Ainey, the Indian, in > Alabama or Tennessee, and then came straight to Arkansas. Their first child > was born in 1824, I think in Arkansas. > Don > > > At 03:05 PM 20-04-03 -0500, you wrote: > >As you know, Don, there are several errors in the Obediah Wood family in > >"Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900." It's taken masses of indepth > >research to correct most if not all of these errors. Some, unfortunately, > >will probably endure forever for lack of primary and/or secondary > >documentation. > > > >1. William J "Squirrel Bill" Wood is NOT a member of the Obediah Wood > >family. If you'll read carefully what SC Turnbo writes, this becomes quite > >clear - especially when compared with census records. > >WILLIAM J. "Squirrel Bill" WOOD b GA ca 1811 m PAMELA ___ b TN ca 1815. In > >Union Township 1840 with 2 males > >under 5, 2 males 20-30, 1 female 20-30, and 1 female 15-20. In Union > >Township 1850. > > > >2. William Wood Jr is the son of William [A] "Dancin' Bill " or "Billy" & > >Hannah (Austin) Wood. > >WILLIAM WOOD Jr. b Anderson Co. TN 1800/10 d 1861/5 during the Civil War m > >MCAR ELIZABETH "Betsy" > >GOODMAN/COKER b AL 1808 d AR. Recorded land in Union Township 24 March > >1852. In Union Township 1840, > >1850. > >It's entirely possible that Elizabeth could be the daughter of Joseph > >Dempsey & Mary (Brown) Coker. However, Joe and Mary were married in Knox Co > >TN ca 1808 (males seldom married before they were 20) and Mary died in > >childbirth in TN in 1811. Their 3 known children - Sarah "Sally" b 1809, > >William T "Prairie Bill" b 1810, Harden b 1811 - were all born in TN. Joe > >went to Jefferson Co AL 1812 or 1813 to join his brother Leonard. Joe is in > >AL 1813 when he marries Anna/Ainey ___, a Cherokee. > > > >I know this must be rather confusing, Don, and I'm sorry I can't answer the > >Goodman/Coker question more accurately. Without further documentation, I > >wouldn't want to make any "for sure" statements and continue perpetuating > >the errors in both the Obediah Wood and "Buck" Coker families. > > > >I can always send you the list of sources we've used to document both the > >Coker families as well as the 6 Wood families in MCAR so that you can double > >check us. Let me know, okay? > > > >Mysty [email protected] > >***************************************** > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Don Ott" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 10:21 AM > >Subject: [ARMar] William "Squirrel Bill" Wood > > > > > > > In the Marion County Big Blue Book, page 468 line 11 bottom, William A. " > > > Squirrel Bill" Wood is shown to have married Elizabeth "Betsey" > > > Cocker/Goodman. Can anyone identify her, was she a Coker previously > >married > > > to a Goodman? If a Coker, how did she fit in that family? > > > Don > > > > > > > >

Rita, Thank You. That has been my contention however seems more want to call her Goodman. Don At 11:22 AM 20-04-03 -0700, you wrote: >My records show her as Betsy Coker, b. ca. 1807, daughter of Joseph >Dempsey Coker and Mary Ann Brown. Joe Coker was the son of William "Buck" >Coker or early Marion County. > > >Rita Foster Wallace >13 Millstone Court >Cold Spring, KY 41076-1861 >(859)441-1935 > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

As you know, Don, there are several errors in the Obediah Wood family in "Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900." It's taken masses of indepth research to correct most if not all of these errors. Some, unfortunately, will probably endure forever for lack of primary and/or secondary documentation. 1. William J "Squirrel Bill" Wood is NOT a member of the Obediah Wood family. If you'll read carefully what SC Turnbo writes, this becomes quite clear - especially when compared with census records. WILLIAM J. "Squirrel Bill" WOOD b GA ca 1811 m PAMELA ___ b TN ca 1815. In Union Township 1840 with 2 males under 5, 2 males 20-30, 1 female 20-30, and 1 female 15-20. In Union Township 1850. 2. William Wood Jr is the son of William [A] "Dancin' Bill " or "Billy" & Hannah (Austin) Wood. WILLIAM WOOD Jr. b Anderson Co. TN 1800/10 d 1861/5 during the Civil War m MCAR ELIZABETH "Betsy" GOODMAN/COKER b AL 1808 d AR. Recorded land in Union Township 24 March 1852. In Union Township 1840, 1850. It's entirely possible that Elizabeth could be the daughter of Joseph Dempsey & Mary (Brown) Coker. However, Joe and Mary were married in Knox Co TN ca 1808 (males seldom married before they were 20) and Mary died in childbirth in TN in 1811. Their 3 known children - Sarah "Sally" b 1809, William T "Prairie Bill" b 1810, Harden b 1811 - were all born in TN. Joe went to Jefferson Co AL 1812 or 1813 to join his brother Leonard. Joe is in AL 1813 when he marries Anna/Ainey ___, a Cherokee. I know this must be rather confusing, Don, and I'm sorry I can't answer the Goodman/Coker question more accurately. Without further documentation, I wouldn't want to make any "for sure" statements and continue perpetuating the errors in both the Obediah Wood and "Buck" Coker families. I can always send you the list of sources we've used to document both the Coker families as well as the 6 Wood families in MCAR so that you can double check us. Let me know, okay? Mysty [email protected] ***************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: [ARMar] William "Squirrel Bill" Wood > In the Marion County Big Blue Book, page 468 line 11 bottom, William A. " > Squirrel Bill" Wood is shown to have married Elizabeth "Betsey" > Cocker/Goodman. Can anyone identify her, was she a Coker previously married > to a Goodman? If a Coker, how did she fit in that family? > Don > >

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Hi Darren. I'd love to have some of your old photos for the Marion Co site. You can check out what I have at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/photos/index.html Thanks! Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N | From: "Darren Hellwege" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:25 AM | Subject: [ARMar] Posting pictures? | | | > I was feeling awfully homesick the other day, and I called my daddy up | while mom was still in Kansas and asked him to email me a few pictures. He | said he'd just put some on a disk and mail it to me. | > Yesterday I received a CD-Rom with several HUNDRED photos on it, from my | niece at the church's pumpkin patch and last summer's vacation to my in all | my magnificent geekiness as a teenager to baby pictures of my sister to some | real, real old shots of people and places around Marion County. Thought | y'all might get a charge out of them, but didn't know if this list had a "no | pictures!" policy, as some do. Darren | |

Hi BigMomma. I'm the hostess for the USGenWeb Marion Co site and I visited your Marion Co pages. The links seem to be broken except for the family history and missing children. You might to check and see if I'm just having a web problem. I also noticed that you have a link to the original AR Project and was wondering if you'd be kind enough to add a link to the USGenWeb Marion Co site? I'd sure appreciate it and would be happy to return the favor. http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N ----- Original Message ----- From: "BigMomma" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [ARMar] Posting pictures? | Dear Darren, | This list would have problems with any attachments, but we would LOVE to be | able to post them at ArkansasFamilies.net! | Lots of Lovins, Huggins and Good Old Corn Squeezins! | BigMomma | www.ArkansasFamilies.net | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Darren Hellwege" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:25 AM | Subject: [ARMar] Posting pictures? | | | I was feeling awfully homesick the other day, and I called my daddy up while | mom was still in Kansas and asked him to email me a few pictures. He said | he'd just put some on a disk and mail it to me. | Yesterday I received a CD-Rom with several HUNDRED photos on it, from my | niece at the church's pumpkin patch and last summer's vacation to my in all | my magnificent geekiness as a teenager to baby pictures of my sister to some | real, real old shots of people and places around Marion County. Thought | y'all might get a charge out of them, but didn't know if this list had a "no | pictures!" policy, as some do. Darren | | | --------------------------------- | Do you Yahoo!? | The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. | | | |

My records show her as Betsy Coker, b. ca. 1807, daughter of Joseph Dempsey Coker and Mary Ann Brown. Joe Coker was the son of William "Buck" Coker or early Marion County. Rita Foster Wallace 13 Millstone Court Cold Spring, KY 41076-1861 (859)441-1935 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

In the Marion County Big Blue Book, page 468 line 11 bottom, William A. " Squirrel Bill" Wood is shown to have married Elizabeth "Betsey" Cocker/Goodman. Can anyone identify her, was she a Coker previously married to a Goodman? If a Coker, how did she fit in that family? Don

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COKER, STALLINGS, TABOR, MELTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mV.2ADE/125 Message Board Post: HELP! I need information about Daniel COKER, referred to as "The Fiddler" in Turnbo Stories and other sources. He was the son of Joseph Dempsey COKER. According to what little information I can piece together, he was married to Sarah M. Stallings, daughter of John Edwards STALLINGS & Minerva TABOR. Sarah is the sister to my gg-grandmother, Georgia Ann STALLINGS MELTON. Did Daniel & Sarah have any children? Does anyone have any information on when they died? I would really appreciate any information. Thanks

Hello Darren, I'm Rhio, the Marion County listowner. Pictures cannot be posted to the mail lists but the suggestion for posting them on the Marion County site was a good one. Several of us, who are on this list, have posted our family pics there for other researchers to view. One note of caution: don't post pics of any living people. This would be an invasion of their privacy. http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion Rhio listowner

Why not check out BigMomma's site, Darren, to see what it has to offer, how it works, etc. Sort of like comparative shopping <g> Mysty [email protected] ***************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Hellwege" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [ARMar] Posting pictures? > Uh, I'm new to the list and just a dumb Okie...should I be scared of the BigMomma that wants to squeeze me? ;-)Seriously, thanks...I want to check with the council of elders within my family before putting stuff on the web. I'll sure let you know. > > Darren > > BigMomma <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Darren, > This list would have problems with any attachments, but we would LOVE to be > able to post them at ArkansasFamilies.net! > Lots of Lovins, Huggins and Good Old Corn Squeezins! > BigMomma > www.ArkansasFamilies.net

Darren, why not post some of your pictures on the Marion Co web site? There's a section there devoted to Marion Co people and places. Being a permanent site, they're available for folks to enjoy at any time. And being a Rootsweb site ensures access to everyone. And Linda, the site hostess, will be glad to explain all the how-to's etc. The site is http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion and Linda can be contacted at [email protected] Mysty [email protected] ****************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Hellwege" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: [ARMar] Posting pictures? > I was feeling awfully homesick the other day, and I called my daddy up while mom was still in Kansas and asked him to email me a few pictures. He said he'd just put some on a disk and mail it to me. > Yesterday I received a CD-Rom with several HUNDRED photos on it, from my niece at the church's pumpkin patch and last summer's vacation to my in all my magnificent geekiness as a teenager to baby pictures of my sister to some real, real old shots of people and places around Marion County. Thought y'all might get a charge out of them, but didn't know if this list had a "no pictures!" policy, as some do. Darren

Dear Darren, This list would have problems with any attachments, but we would LOVE to be able to post them at ArkansasFamilies.net! Lots of Lovins, Huggins and Good Old Corn Squeezins! BigMomma www.ArkansasFamilies.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Hellwege" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: [ARMar] Posting pictures? I was feeling awfully homesick the other day, and I called my daddy up while mom was still in Kansas and asked him to email me a few pictures. He said he'd just put some on a disk and mail it to me. Yesterday I received a CD-Rom with several HUNDRED photos on it, from my niece at the church's pumpkin patch and last summer's vacation to my in all my magnificent geekiness as a teenager to baby pictures of my sister to some real, real old shots of people and places around Marion County. Thought y'all might get a charge out of them, but didn't know if this list had a "no pictures!" policy, as some do. Darren --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Uh, I'm new to the list and just a dumb Okie...should I be scared of the BigMomma that wants to squeeze me? ;-)Seriously, thanks...I want to check with the council of elders within my family before putting stuff on the web. I'll sure let you know. Darren BigMomma <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Darren, This list would have problems with any attachments, but we would LOVE to be able to post them at ArkansasFamilies.net! Lots of Lovins, Huggins and Good Old Corn Squeezins! BigMomma www.ArkansasFamilies.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Hellwege" To: Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: [ARMar] Posting pictures? I was feeling awfully homesick the other day, and I called my daddy up while mom was still in Kansas and asked him to email me a few pictures. He said he'd just put some on a disk and mail it to me. Yesterday I received a CD-Rom with several HUNDRED photos on it, from my niece at the church's pumpkin patch and last summer's vacation to my in all my magnificent geekiness as a teenager to baby pictures of my sister to some real, real old shots of people and places around Marion County. Thought y'all might get a charge out of them, but didn't know if this list had a "no pictures!" policy, as some do. Darren --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://okstate.fansonly.com/okst-mem.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

I was feeling awfully homesick the other day, and I called my daddy up while mom was still in Kansas and asked him to email me a few pictures. He said he'd just put some on a disk and mail it to me. Yesterday I received a CD-Rom with several HUNDRED photos on it, from my niece at the church's pumpkin patch and last summer's vacation to my in all my magnificent geekiness as a teenager to baby pictures of my sister to some real, real old shots of people and places around Marion County. Thought y'all might get a charge out of them, but didn't know if this list had a "no pictures!" policy, as some do. Darren --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Since y'all have heard this one before, I'll do the Readers Digest Version.Zim Ott had him a wife. Said wife was playing footsie with another man. Zim Ott had him a gun. Zim Ott took said gun and sent said other man to his maker. In spite of the fact that this was perfectly legal at the time, legend as I understand it holds that Zim split town pretty quick and laid low for some time.The rifle supposedly used in this shooting is held, I believe, by Burl Ott over in Marshall. Darren Mysty McPherson <[email protected]> wrote:Oh, yes, Darren. I've heard several variations on the story of Zim Ott's gun. Heard it first from Don Ott. What's the tale your family tells? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Oh, yes, Darren. I've heard several variations on the story of Zim Ott's gun. Heard it first from Don Ott. What's the tale your family tells? I've had nearly 40 years of digging fun tracking down my family. As with you - nary a horse thief. The real "fun" began when I went back across the ocean and got hints of connections to some gentry types. Good Grief, Charlie Brown!! What an explosion of ancestors that created!!! Still have a couple of loose ends in this country that I doubt will ever be solved (ostensibly one was "spirited away" by the Masons after a sort of Masonic war which included at least one murder) 'cuz the records have been either lost or erased or locked away in some of those dungeons untouched by the FIA <sigh> Even so, I've thoroughly enjoyed these decades of research, learning lots about history, sociology, politics, etal, and sure wouldn't want to have to trade them for some "canned" family tree laid out all nice and neat and clean - and boring. Mysty [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Hellwege To: Mysty McPherson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [ARMar] John Stacy Roberts All true, but at the same time if I could go online, click on "Darrensfamily.com" and find everything about everybody, it wouldn't be as much fun. My grandfather Binum Roberts from Bellefont, his great-grandfather was in the War and I've had a good time digging up information on the Mississippi 34th and his brigade, and I'm starting to work on studying the Rock Island Prison where he was held after being wounded at Perryville. At the same time, I'm running down some of my dad's family in places like Buetzfleth Germany. My grandmother Hellwege is still alive and seems genuinely flattered that I'm interested in her family, in Wents and Schlossers and Koesers and Hellweges (everyone reading this message out loud just spit all over their monitor) and has helped me put a human face on all this. I can, with a little imagination, do the same thing with these other folks, have feelings for a guy who lived 150 years before I was born but was still "kin." My mom was closer to 2nd an! d 3rd . And I've still not found any horse thiefs...but I wonder if the folks on this list know about Zim Ott? Don, does that name ring a bell? Do you know about Zim Ott's gun? I'd hate to tell a tale that's been spun here before of a shared relative of Don's and mine. I also found a few things on the Patterson line we're playing with here, but I'm still tying loose ends together before I splatter it all over this list. Darren Mysty McPherson <[email protected]> wrote: Often the military records from the CW aren't as complete as we'd like them to be <groan>. Pretty sure we found the data about Robert Fulton Patterson in "Arkansas Pension Applications" by Desmond Walls Allen. Of course, living in AR, RFP would have had to apply for a pension in AR even tho' his service was in a different state. Don['t have that particular book here at home, but will check it next time I get to the library. The record you found for James W Patterson as a 2nd LT *might* be the only one surviving and *might* be before he was made captain. However, it could also be for a totally different JWP. Ah, well. Confusion reigns - and we all get wet <g> The only alternative I can suggest is to go to the NARA site (National Archives) and request copies of *all* the papers in the file for JWP. It's pretty expensive - but well worth it if it's the right fellow. Just found out that Levicy Lucinda Roberts was the daughter of Robert Gaines & Mary "Molly" (DeWeese) Roberts. Also found out that her father died in NC in 1840 and JWP was appointed guardian of his minor children - including Levicy. And her grandparents were Robert & Nancy (Cody) Roberts. All in Buncombe Co NC too. For more information on the Roberts and DeWeese lines, you might contact Jeanne Dark [email protected] She sent me this information. Oh, and you might try the Buncombe Co NC web page for Civil War data. Mysty [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Hellwege To: Mysty McPherson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [ARMar] John Stacy Roberts Well, now it's gettin' weird. Not only have I struck out finding James W.'s war record (I think I remember him being called "Capt" at one point, and the James W. Pattersons I found in North Carolina were a 2nd Lt. and a Private) but now I look over this again, and upon checking a Muster Roll online can't find R.F.P. in the 66th. Darren Mysty McPherson <[email protected]> wrote: Here are a few tidbits for you, Darren, from "Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900" by Mysty McPherson & Vicki Roberts, pub 1997. It's a great source for Marion Co research - might be something you could use since you're descended from several of old families. There's more info about it on the Marion Co web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion. Robert Fulton Patterson Sr (son of James W & Levicy Lucinda [Roberts] Patterson) b Yancy Co NC 20 June 1848 d MCAR 2 March 1923 bu Layton Cemetery m/1 AR 15 Jan 1871 Huldah Minerva Willis (daughter of Jim & Mary [Fenny] Willis) b NC Oct 1849 d MCAR 21 Feb 1888 bu Jefferson Hall Cemetery; m/2 MCAR 4 Oct 1888 Mary Jane Rea b 4 Sep 1854 d 28 June 1930 bu Layton Cemetery. He enlisted in the Confederate army aged 16 in NC; served in Co E, 66th NC Infantry; applied for a pension 1917; Mary applied 1923. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Darren, here's what we have in "Genealogies of Marion Co Families 1811-1900" for James W Patterson. JAMES W. PATTERSON b NC 15 April 1817 d MCAR 16 Feb 1881 bu Jefferson Hall Cemetery m 25 July 1843 LEVICY LUCINDA ROBERTS (daughter of Lewis Roberts) b NC 21 July 1826 d MCAR 24 July 1895 bu Jefferson Hall Cemetery. Sold his land in NC to his brother-in-law Garrett Roberts. Emigrated 1868, settling near Eros. Stayed with family friend John Phillips until land was found to buy. Captain in Confederate army in NC. In Prairie Township 1880. For details on his service in the Civil War, you'll have to go to NC records. There might be information on such sites as http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com or www.genforum.genealogy.com. It's possible that he served in the same unit as his son, Robert Fulton Patterson. Mysty [email protected]