Faye, You are so right...she hopes so much to find her lost links..the Hollingsworth's from Middletown, CA..it has been so many years since she talked to them..fortuntately when my oldest son..now 26 was a baby...i went to Middletown and got a picture of her with him and i..and that is the last picture anyone ever saw of her! now her kid's are missing...we do not know where they are...as soon as i find out about our great grandparents i will start that search..needless to say then start on her father's side...so much work but worth it! my oldest sister has been going to where she can in oklahoma and take pictures of the graves we find.....so far..no one has any idea where Eldora is buried.....amazing..when i started this i asked her what her grandpa's name was.....she said papa...ahhhhhh how cute...my mom is so excited when my sister and i find anything..i am doing the researching and my sister is taking pictures..gathering pictures and sending me all of them...we have few family pictues left but are blessed to have some....i cannot believe we don't know much....but it has been years since we have seen any of the family....my great uncle j.d. is from leavenworth and we think he still has children or family there...it is Silvester and Eldora we are desparately seeking..yes...it means alot to mama....she was shocked to hear about her grandpa being a deputy sherrif.....we wish other family members would pitch in..but as we unfortunately found out...they just want to register in the indian tribes for benefits.....it is ok i guess...but still.....would help...my sisters uncle took 35 yrs to search family history to the 1600's..how exciting! thank you for everything..you have been a instument in us knowing our family..now we can get these certificates.....to my sister, mother and i....wer are just happy to know our heritage....if we benefit from it..that is a blessing and bonus..not our intentions...we have cherokee and choctaw in us....i want to know where it came from...they seem to think SIlvester was choctaw...do you have any idea about this? thanks for everything keep in touch Teressa:)

Amy, I believe that the WORKMAN'S they are researching were only in Logan co, Ark. and then Haskell & LeFlore Countys of Oklahoma. That's were I found the marriage and cemetery records for them shown below. Their Stewart line (Fathers name Louis Stewart) are the one's that went to California. Faye in Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Rupp <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Workman's and Stewarts > > WORKMAN, Silvester age 21 to Eldora Stewart no age 12 April, 1903 > > Iron Bridge, Indian Territory Iron Bridge, Indian Territory > > This town and the marriage certificate are in LeFlore County, Okla,. beside > > Haskell County. > > Just to clarify: I am not related to this family. > > Were Silvester and Eldora's children or Lou and (blanking on her name)'s > children born in California? I tried to do a lookup in the California > Birth Index, now only available at one site and it claims to be > temporarily disabled until tomorrow. I hope it is only temporary because > with the loss of this index under pressure from California's shortsighted > government we will lose a lot. > > Please show your support for open records. > > --Amy > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Logan Co., AR list, use > [email protected] or > [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

thanks for the link!!! so nice of you!

I lived in Stigler as a little girl, my father may have known your grandfather Workman, I will ask him, he is age 92 but, is smarter than me! There is ONE biography in the "History of Haskell County" for Workman....the way I read it, he is most likely out of your family, and it gives the names of the currently living Workman family of Stigler (1980's the book was published, I bought the last two copys they had years ago), then his children, who they married and where they all live. It said he followed in the footsteps of his materal grandfather by following the lawman field.......I think it must have meant Paternal grandfather since, his last name is also Workman......right?! You want these names and places they live by private email?? And I'll give you a wonderful website (one of the best on the internet) to go to to get all the marriage, birth, death, cemetery records for Haskell Co., Okla.... Faye in Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Teressa <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Workman's and Stewarts > Faye! > this is soooooo exciting! this is more than ANYONE knows including > Fannie' only livng child......i cannot WAIT to tell my older sister! > There truly are angels on earth!!!!!! Thank you with all of our > hearts...this has been somewhat of a stressful venture but > now....everything is falling together because of people like you and Amy > that helped us! > God bless you! > Thank you Faye...and if we find out we are linked....i would LOVE to > meet you! my sister would too! > Have a beautiful Day! > With Love > Teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Logan Co., AR list, use > [email protected] or > [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The information on Silvester is foggy...one says one thing another says another...but Silvester had two brothers and one sister.....we think his brothers names were Ike and George...and Ike had two son's named R.D. or Ardy and Jack....George married Bertha and had a daughter named Bulah....and his sister is Whiteny first or last name..no one knows for sure..this is all we have on Silvester... i am so happy to have found this information and site.....thanks for evreything Teressa

thanks faye Louis Stewart is my great mothers only brother from Logan County AK....to my knowledge...the only Workman that lived in California is Dora Workman...she married Jess Hollingsworth and lived in Middletown, CA>.they are both dead and we have lost all contact with her children..Dorothy Pauline, Jessie Walter, Charles and Donald...we do not know where they are or how to contact any of that part of the family...which saddens my mother..but when Dora and Jess died..they lost contact with the rest...My mother was the only Workman descendant to our knowledge that came to California and raised us children there but she now lives in Ok..the rest of the family stayed in Oklahoma and Kansas.....her maide name was Wiginton....SIlvester is her grandpa of course.. We also do not know where any of Uncle Lou's children are...Reba married a man named David Crowser and they are divorced..they had three children named Larry David, Jewell Barbara Ann and Vicky....Rosie lived in California....Thomas lived in Paris< AK he is dead...Lillian had a son named Bobby and she died and was rasied by Reta, Ardy or R.D . is dead and Bill is their other son and we do not know if any of these relatives are alive or anything else about their families:( THank you so much for all of your help Teressa

thanks carolyn..i grew up there too..in antioch! thanks so much! being new at this is kind of hard..but will keep plugging! thanks again!

There is a web site for California death information. This will give you the information you seek on your realtive buried in Antioch, Contra Costa County. Which by the way is where I grew up. Best to you. Carolyn in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teressa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Workman's and Stewarts > thanks sooo much...you all have been so wonderful...i am not sure how to > do this..my sister and i are reallllllly stuggling to find > anything.....not many know much about our family.....but i will look > into this if i possibly can! thans for your time so much! > greatly appreciated!!! would be nice if we were related....make it > easier to find the rest of the family! > Silvester married Eldora...she died after having four children...Dora, > Stella, Ethel and Ruby...she died in approximately 1914, and was > hospitalized the last two years of her life so we assume she had t.b. > Silvester married a woman named Fannie and her daughter Louise doesn't > remember her mothers maiden name....Silvester was at one time a deputy > sherrif in Stigler but he died in Tulsa...we just got his death > certificate today...he was born 10-13-1884 and died in tulsa > 10-26-1958, it says his father's name is also Silvester but no mother's > name:( on our grandmother's death certificate..it says his name is > spelled Sillvester.....Fannie and he had children named J.D., Warren and > Louise...that is all we know....we are finding out dates...but we are > stuck ....a nice woman gave us information from this same link on our > great uncles death....Edlora's brother..so we at least know her mom's > maiden name.....from here it is hard to know where to go...we think > Eldora is buried in Haskell County...that is because our great grandpa > lived there for almost fifty years and all of their kid's were born in > that county...it was said till now.that she was buried in Ft. SMith > Ark...but we dont' think that now.....thanks so much for everything..and > hopefuly we are linked! this is so exciting! > thanks a million > teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I would like to know if anyone has any information on this family: Rebecca Ann BIGGS b. 1866 married James RAMEY b. 1864 KY in 1884 in Chismville, Logan, Arkansas. Thank you..... Rhonda [email protected]

> WORKMAN, Silvester age 21 to Eldora Stewart no age 12 April, 1903 > Iron Bridge, Indian Territory Iron Bridge, Indian Territory > This town and the marriage certificate are in LeFlore County, Okla,. beside > Haskell County. Just to clarify: I am not related to this family. Were Silvester and Eldora's children or Lou and (blanking on her name)'s children born in California? I tried to do a lookup in the California Birth Index, now only available at one site and it claims to be temporarily disabled until tomorrow. I hope it is only temporary because with the loss of this index under pressure from California's shortsighted government we will lose a lot. Please show your support for open records. --Amy

AMy Lou and Viola's children lived in california...i am not sure they were acutally born there...we know very little....we know he was from arkansas...but do not know where his children were born.....Silvesters children were born in oklahoma...all of them...we just remember them being there when they were older and i was only five when he died.... let me know please..how to show the support you ask for please thanks wtth all of our hearts...you and the people in here have been our guiding angels....thanks so much! Teressa

Teressa and Amy I don't know if you two have these official records of Marriages: WORKMAN, Silvester age 21 to Eldora Stewart no age 12 April, 1903 Iron Bridge, Indian Territory Iron Bridge, Indian Territory This town and the marriage certificate are in LeFlore County, Okla,. beside Haskell County. Workman, William J. age 43 to Mrs. Dora Winters age 30 21 Dec 1903 McCurtain, Indian Territory McCurtain, Indian Territory This town and the marriage certicate are in LeFlore County, Okla. beside Haskell Co. STEWART, Louis age 21 to Viola E. Gabbard age 20 28 Oct, 1906 Walls, Indian Territory Walls, Indian Territory This town and the marriage certificate are in LeFlore County, Okla. beside Haskell Co. CEMETERY RECORDS Haskell County, Oklahoma WORKMAN, FANNIE Miners Cemetery (west of McCurtain) WORKMAN, JOHN Miners Cemetery (west of McCurtain) Workman, Fannie born 26 January 1884 Died 9 Aug 1970 Workman, John born 24 September 1887 died 25 March 1929 There are lots more Workmans buried in Haskell County.....none are name Eldora. Hope these help. Faye in Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Teressa <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Workman's and Stewarts > Amy, > lou and viola stewart had seven children i just found out! > reta, reba, r.d. or ardy, thomas, bill, lillian and rosie...our family > is a little confused as to the details but sure this is the names. > most of the children moved from arkansas and that is why our great and > and uncle did....i remember them as a very little girl and remember > going to uncle lou's gravesite..i remember the graveyard and about where > his grave is....but i don;t remember the name of the graveyard...my > mother said at that time she thinks it was called just the anitoch > cemetery...do i write to martinez for that information? any help and > what you have given is so greatly apprecaite...uncle lou is our blood > kin and we did not know until this email that our great great > grandmother;s name is yates! > thanks again! > you are soooo sweet!!!! > Teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Faye! this is soooooo exciting! this is more than ANYONE knows including Fannie' only livng child......i cannot WAIT to tell my older sister! There truly are angels on earth!!!!!! Thank you with all of our hearts...this has been somewhat of a stressful venture but now....everything is falling together because of people like you and Amy that helped us! God bless you! Thank you Faye...and if we find out we are linked....i would LOVE to meet you! my sister would too! Have a beautiful Day! With Love Teressa

I am going to try and go to Contra Costa County next week to some cemeteries to find some relatives. Please send me the petinent info, and I will try and see if I can take pictures of stones on the graves of your loved ones. Oleta Willhite [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Teressa <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Workman's and Stewarts > Amy, > lou and viola stewart had seven children i just found out! > reta, reba, r.d. or ardy, thomas, bill, lillian and rosie...our family > is a little confused as to the details but sure this is the names. > most of the children moved from arkansas and that is why our great and > and uncle did....i remember them as a very little girl and remember > going to uncle lou's gravesite..i remember the graveyard and about where > his grave is....but i don;t remember the name of the graveyard...my > mother said at that time she thinks it was called just the anitoch > cemetery...do i write to martinez for that information? any help and > what you have given is so greatly apprecaite...uncle lou is our blood > kin and we did not know until this email that our great great > grandmother;s name is yates! > thanks again! > you are soooo sweet!!!! > Teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On Lou Stewart: STEWART LOUIS 08/18/1888 YATES STEWART M ARKANSAS CONTRA COSTA 06/18/1958 430-01-2534 69 yrs His mother's maiden name then, was Yates. Viola's information, unfortunately, does not give a mother's maiden name and father's last name: STEWART VIOLA 05/26/1886 F ARKANSAS SAN LUIS OBISPO 12/18/1973 87 yrs This may not be her, but it's a good shot. Have you tried to get a death certificate on either of these individuals? It would help provide more information as well as perhaps containing the name of an informant -- typically a child on Viola's. --Amy

thanks sooo much...you all have been so wonderful...i am not sure how to do this..my sister and i are reallllllly stuggling to find anything.....not many know much about our family.....but i will look into this if i possibly can! thans for your time so much! greatly appreciated!!! would be nice if we were related....make it easier to find the rest of the family! Silvester married Eldora...she died after having four children...Dora, Stella, Ethel and Ruby...she died in approximately 1914, and was hospitalized the last two years of her life so we assume she had t.b. Silvester married a woman named Fannie and her daughter Louise doesn't remember her mothers maiden name....Silvester was at one time a deputy sherrif in Stigler but he died in Tulsa...we just got his death certificate today...he was born 10-13-1884 and died in tulsa 10-26-1958, it says his father's name is also Silvester but no mother's name:( on our grandmother's death certificate..it says his name is spelled Sillvester.....Fannie and he had children named J.D., Warren and Louise...that is all we know....we are finding out dates...but we are stuck ....a nice woman gave us information from this same link on our great uncles death....Edlora's brother..so we at least know her mom's maiden name.....from here it is hard to know where to go...we think Eldora is buried in Haskell County...that is because our great grandpa lived there for almost fifty years and all of their kid's were born in that county...it was said till now.that she was buried in Ft. SMith Ark...but we dont' think that now.....thanks so much for everything..and hopefuly we are linked! this is so exciting! thanks a million teressa

i am totally humilated and embarrassed to death...this was a letter to my sister...how humilating.....so sorry ...sent to the wrong person.....can i ever live it down?????? sorry

mum's the word ..i am soooo excited..going to contact matinez and get a death certificate on lou....can mail a check and cover it after yard sale haaaaaaaaa am so sorry for saying that to mom..today was not a good day to say anything..but mom kept giving information...and i blurted out ya right aunt geri is searching the family history...she is in it for what she can get...understand that mom..we will get no help from them...now i have a idea where to post queries to get ahold of the stewarts...am so excited..i am now convinced that is him aren't you?there are no lou's louies at all...let me know what the heck you think...please dont' be angry or upset with me...i am upset enough at myself..did not give nay pertinent information...just said we are not gonna get help....still in shock you are so nice you are taking aunt geri...the nerve of her to say to mom....well me and my kid's will be taken care of this weekend.....what a bitch to me...sorry but she IS! i feel sooo bad for mama...she is so nice and helpful...all the while her sister trying to screw her over! i got sooo upset hearing davey's letter...so sad..but glad ot hear it...and had a good conversation with mom..mostly about davey and him eating ahhhhhhhh love u....can't wait to hear from you and let me know what you think of this information! yes1 i believe it is them don't you!????? yates is eldora's mom's maiden name...i did some studying of notes.....that i took..think i aam closer to finding eldoras grave..will let you know for sure...gotta stay off this long enough to do the dang yard sale.haa i do love you so much and so proud to be your sister dianna..mean it from the pits of my heart

Amy, lou and viola stewart had seven children i just found out! reta, reba, r.d. or ardy, thomas, bill, lillian and rosie...our family is a little confused as to the details but sure this is the names. most of the children moved from arkansas and that is why our great and and uncle did....i remember them as a very little girl and remember going to uncle lou's gravesite..i remember the graveyard and about where his grave is....but i don;t remember the name of the graveyard...my mother said at that time she thinks it was called just the anitoch cemetery...do i write to martinez for that information? any help and what you have given is so greatly apprecaite...uncle lou is our blood kin and we did not know until this email that our great great grandmother;s name is yates! thanks again! you are soooo sweet!!!! Teressa

AMy!!! thanks sooooooooooooooo much! the sad thing is this is all we have..what you have sent us! that could be our aunt as her children lived in that area..and uncle lou died first ...she went to live with them in that part of the caifornia...we are soooo excited to get this informaiton...thank you with all of our hearts! this is it..what you have sent...now we can get death certificates.....no one in our family knows anything..but this is a start!!! thank you with all of our hearts! sincerely, teressa