SHolland couldn`t e-mail you but the info on g-parents Ira Lee Reed b1884 d 1957 Susan Alma (Hornbeck) Reed b.1894 in Yellville Ark. d 1936 Both are buried in the Pine top Cem. in Pittsburg Co,Okla Thanks for all the help. Buddy Fennell

Looking for any clues as to the family of Jim Robinson who married Flora A. Powell on Mar 12, 1899 in Logan Co.(have also seen name spelled Roberson). She was [email protected] in Logan Co., the daughter of James Powell, jr and Martha Jane Mullings. I have a family picture that includes 6 children, but no names. I know of at least one child--Ethel, who married Claud Horn, but that is all I know. In the Ar Death Index for 1934-40, there is a Flora Robinson who died in Logan Co. 7/20/1938 that appears to be her. There is also listed a James Robinson who died in Logan Co. on 6/10/1938. Thanks for any leads. Dickey Powell

Opps! Here's the site. http://pages.prodigy.com/SouthardFamily/chlinks.htm Sorry I forgot to add it to other message. Carole (Cooking out here in Sactown at 101* today. My brain has melted!) :>) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teressa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Stewarts > I was just told that my great uncle who was born in Logan County AR was > born on a indian reservation....this is the reason we cannot find much > on our family, the Stewarts. it was kept a dark secret where he was > born because of being born on a reservation! does anyone know where > there would have been a indian reservation in Logan County AR in 1888?? > thanks in advance! > Teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Logan Co., AR list, use > [email protected] or > [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Teressa, You might want to try some of these links. Did you try the ones I sent when I sent you the Workman's from the 1890 Indian Census? Carole ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teressa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Stewarts > I was just told that my great uncle who was born in Logan County AR was > born on a indian reservation....this is the reason we cannot find much > on our family, the Stewarts. it was kept a dark secret where he was > born because of being born on a reservation! does anyone know where > there would have been a indian reservation in Logan County AR in 1888?? > thanks in advance! > Teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Logan Co., AR list, use > [email protected] or > [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Indeed. If you will go to McCurtain Genealogical Society via OKGENWEB for Haskell Co. you will find some links. Also, type in Native American by Marriage in your search engine and you should come up with multiple hits. [email protected] wrote: > Are there any marriage records on Native Americans? I am told that my > great-grandfather married a Native American somewhere in the Midwest (either > Kansas or Arkansas and possibly Missouri) anywhere from 1875 to 1879. > Thank you > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

There was a portion of land in this area that encompassed several counties north and east of Logan Co AR that were "guaranteed" to the Cherokee. Of course, that clause in the treaty about "forever" only held true for about ten years from 1817 til 1827. The present day counties involved all or in part were: Johnson, Boone, Marshall, Baxter, Newton, Franklin, Conway, Van Buren, Cleburne, Faulkner & Crawford. The tip of this land extended over the western border of AR from Crawford Co into the IT. Logan Co. The Southwestern border of this area must have been the Arkansas River, at least that was the border at Johnson and Franklin Cos. Therefore, none of the land of Logan was actually a part of this area. The area south of that river I think (stress the think) was in control of the Creeks or the Osage. There was not a treaty that made it anything that could be referred to as a reservation. In fact, the Cherokee area was not a "reservation" either. Just a technical point though since the family story would have used the term "reservation" if it involved land where Native Americans lived. There is however another possibility. The time frame of the birth rules out any actual truth to a "Indian Reservation" circa 1886. However, in the records of the BIA there are some Cherokee, Creek and others that accepted land (usually 640 acres) as a "personal reservation" and with that acceptance they declared their intent to become a citizen of the US. These records are scarce but I've read documents that mention Arkansas. The rules were that the "reservee" could not sell the land and had to maintain his permanent residence on that land. Normally, his heirs could title the land free and clear upon the death of the reservee and therefore sell it. Just giving you some clues for further research, hope it helps. Been there, researched that. Ron McCandless Teressa wrote: > > Hi Sharon! > thanks sooo much! > Louis Stewart b-8-18-1888, said to be born in Logan Co AR...on a indian > reservation > Eldora Stewart, no dates....except that she married Sylvester W Workman > on April 12, 1903 in Indian Territory Le Fore Co OK > their mother's maiden name is Yates > this is all we know of them...except Loius death date 1958. Oh his > wife's name is Viola Gabbard...we know about her..not him. > Thanks again for your time > something a little interesting...my real maiden name is Holland....we > are not sure which it is , our great or great grandfather' s last name > was Holland...he went to live with a family wth the last name of Hubbard > and just started using it....Hubbard is my maiden name but was never > legally changed...now THAT family will be hard to research...hardly > anyone knows anything about them! > good luck and thanks so much! > Teressa > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Logan Co., AR list, use > [email protected] or > [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

can you give me info on how to get into the indian archives. Thanks...Buddy Fennell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Holland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Re: ARLOGAN-D Digest V02 #125 > Theresa, > > Do you have the names and dates of these Indian relatives? I have a cd > from the Indian Archives. Maybe something will show up. LeFlore County > Oklahoma or Indian Territory is a part of the Choctaw Nation. There is a > great historical society in Poteau Oklahoma. Also, Indian information > should be on file at the Indian Archives. > > Sharon in Oklahoma > I too am looking for my Native Americans. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Teressa" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Re: ARLOGAN-D Digest V02 #125 > > > > i have not checked OK deaths...where do you do that? also...i just > > learned today....one reason we are having a very difficult finding out > > where my great grandma was born etc ..and anything about our Uncle > > Lou..is because he was born on a indian reservation!!!!!!! it is mixed > > opinions as to what tribe..we were told we are choctaw on that side of > > the family...STewarts and cherokee from the Workman's.... > > Louis Stewart was born in Logan County AR....but where was a indian > > reservation>??? we have no idea.....the family back then did NOT talk > > about their indian heritage....it is so obvious they are indian...our > > great uncle and grandma...as well as us....high cheekbones etc.....so > > where would one look in the Logan County AR area for a indian > > reservation? no one has any idea where Eldora was born..they both were > > married in Indian Territory Lefore County, but no maiden name on > > Eldora's marriage records..no age...on Louis, Yates is the maiden > > name..anyone have any clues as to where to begin to look for his birth > > place? or what reservations at that time were in Logan County area? > > any help is so appreciated > > thanks in advance > > Teressa > > > > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > > Logan Co., AR list, use > > [email protected] or > > [email protected] if > > you are on the Digest list. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Are there any marriage records on Native Americans? I am told that my great-grandfather married a Native American somewhere in the Midwest (either Kansas or Arkansas and possibly Missouri) anywhere from 1875 to 1879. Thank you

Hi Sharon! thanks sooo much! Louis Stewart b-8-18-1888, said to be born in Logan Co AR...on a indian reservation Eldora Stewart, no dates....except that she married Sylvester W Workman on April 12, 1903 in Indian Territory Le Fore Co OK their mother's maiden name is Yates this is all we know of them...except Loius death date 1958. Oh his wife's name is Viola Gabbard...we know about her..not him. Thanks again for your time something a little interesting...my real maiden name is Holland....we are not sure which it is , our great or great grandfather' s last name was Holland...he went to live with a family wth the last name of Hubbard and just started using it....Hubbard is my maiden name but was never legally changed...now THAT family will be hard to research...hardly anyone knows anything about them! good luck and thanks so much! Teressa

Theresa, Do you have the names and dates of these Indian relatives? I have a cd from the Indian Archives. Maybe something will show up. LeFlore County Oklahoma or Indian Territory is a part of the Choctaw Nation. There is a great historical society in Poteau Oklahoma. Also, Indian information should be on file at the Indian Archives. Sharon in Oklahoma I too am looking for my Native Americans. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teressa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [ARLOGAN] Re: ARLOGAN-D Digest V02 #125 > i have not checked OK deaths...where do you do that? also...i just > learned today....one reason we are having a very difficult finding out > where my great grandma was born etc ..and anything about our Uncle > Lou..is because he was born on a indian reservation!!!!!!! it is mixed > opinions as to what tribe..we were told we are choctaw on that side of > the family...STewarts and cherokee from the Workman's.... > Louis Stewart was born in Logan County AR....but where was a indian > reservation>??? we have no idea.....the family back then did NOT talk > about their indian heritage....it is so obvious they are indian...our > great uncle and grandma...as well as us....high cheekbones etc.....so > where would one look in the Logan County AR area for a indian > reservation? no one has any idea where Eldora was born..they both were > married in Indian Territory Lefore County, but no maiden name on > Eldora's marriage records..no age...on Louis, Yates is the maiden > name..anyone have any clues as to where to begin to look for his birth > place? or what reservations at that time were in Logan County area? > any help is so appreciated > thanks in advance > Teressa > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Logan Co., AR list, use > [email protected] or > [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I was just told that my great uncle who was born in Logan County AR was born on a indian reservation....this is the reason we cannot find much on our family, the Stewarts. it was kept a dark secret where he was born because of being born on a reservation! does anyone know where there would have been a indian reservation in Logan County AR in 1888?? thanks in advance! Teressa

I made a trip down to our Historical Society to learn of sanitarium in our area. From what I understand there was one in Talihina which is in LeFlore County, and one in McAlester (50 miles) which is in Pittsburg County. The gentleman who I spoke to said he didn't know of one around here, (Stigler) but that didn't mean there wasn't one. He said they were all over the place for a while. However, if you go to McCurtain Genealogical Society website you will find a listing for everyone buried in Haskell Co Cemeteries so far. There have been several unnamed cemeteries found recently that are not yet on line. BSC

i have not checked OK deaths...where do you do that? also...i just learned today....one reason we are having a very difficult finding out where my great grandma was born etc ..and anything about our Uncle Lou..is because he was born on a indian reservation!!!!!!! it is mixed opinions as to what tribe..we were told we are choctaw on that side of the family...STewarts and cherokee from the Workman's.... Louis Stewart was born in Logan County AR....but where was a indian reservation>??? we have no idea.....the family back then did NOT talk about their indian heritage....it is so obvious they are indian...our great uncle and grandma...as well as us....high cheekbones etc.....so where would one look in the Logan County AR area for a indian reservation? no one has any idea where Eldora was born..they both were married in Indian Territory Lefore County, but no maiden name on Eldora's marriage records..no age...on Louis, Yates is the maiden name..anyone have any clues as to where to begin to look for his birth place? or what reservations at that time were in Logan County area? any help is so appreciated thanks in advance Teressa

I am interested in knowing if ANYONE has any information on Frances L. Smith, born in Booneville, Ark 1882. Married James L. (Loss) Thurston in 1905, also in Booneville. As far as I know they had one daughter named Irene. The last I have on her she was living in Fort Smith, Ark in 1930, at the time of her fathers death. (As was in the obit). Would appreciate any help of info on any of these 3 persons. Thanks in advance.

Laverne, There are 2 for Copeland and 5 for Carolan. The names are intermengled with other families they are not listed as a main family. I will copy the pages and let you look for the names. Jim G

Are the Archives or Geneology in Oklahoma City on the web? Ann Berry > Teressa, > Have you tried the Oklahoma death records? If she was in Stigler, Ok. you > might check with the Archives or the Genealogy in Oklahoma city. they are in > the same building. She could possibly be buried in Ok. they sometimes had a > cemetery close to the sanitoriums. > > good hunting' > Laverne Blair Copeland > > > ==== ARLOGAN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Something is wrong here. I did not write message #4. Thanks

In a message dated 6/26/02 2:07:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > I was trying to connect to your system back inApril. I was spammed with an > offer to connect at 49.99 for a year. The spammer was someone called Family > genseekers. I was in your system so I thought is was a special offer from > your system. I paid 49.99 for the service. I have found out that they are > spammers and i have lost 49.99 to them. They used what i thought was pay > pal for an on line check. Pay pal says they werer not involved. The check > was deposited to Family genseekers po box 10364, cedar rapids ,ia in an > account with the guaranty bank & trust of cedar rapids, ia. I do not trust > your system or any one else that says they are secure. I would like to > join, but i cannot afford any more of these on line offers that can not be > certified.

Jim, Area there any references to Copeland or Carolan in the Logan County History book? They are my husbands family, his mother and dad were raised in the Booneville area. Thanks, Laverne Blair Copeland

Teressa, I am including the Steward's here also as thats what was on Silvester and Eldora's marriage record in Poteau, OK. Also will include Yates. I found no marriages between these families in Logan Co, AR. Carole ~ Logan County Arkansas 1880 Census Washburn Township Page 203 STEWARD, C. L., M 21 Fmr. TN TN TN Sarah E., F 27 W KH AR SC SC Ella L., F 4/12* D AR TN AR OLIVER, Presiller, (w) F 60 M/L SC SC SC Emily J., F 30 S/L AR SC SC Note-*Ella L. was born Feb 1880 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Logan Township Page 328 (in the home of) ANDERSON, Teresa, (W) F 48 Fmr. TN TN TN John, M 21 S Fmr. AR TN TN Mary A., F 19 D KH AR TN TN Richard, M 17 S Fmr. AR TN TN STEWARD, William, M 18 Bdr. Fmr. AR TN TN SIVELY, Lucinda, (W) F 24 D AR TN TN Nancy J., F 7 G/D AR TN AR Luvina, F 5 G/D AR TN AR Maggie A., F 3 G/D AR TN AR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shoal Creek Township Page 8 STEWART, Pleasant, M 47 Fmr. TN TN TN Luamy, F 46 W KH TN TN TN Candacy, F 15 D AR TN TN John, M 12 S Fmr. AR TN TN George, M 10 S Fmr. AR TN TN Oma, F 5 D AR TN TN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shoal Creek Township Page 20 STEWART, Isabell, F 27 KH AR TN TN Edward, M 10 S AtSch. AR AR TN Maud, F 7 D AR AR TN Babe, F 2 D AR AR TN CORNELA?, George, M 20 Fmr. AR IN IN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ellsworth Township Page 360 STEWART, Timothy, M 23 Fmr. AR TN TN Nancy, F 21 W KH AR TN TN Martha, F 2 D AR AR AR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Washburn Township Page 225 YATES, William J., M 46 Fmr. IN KY IN Mary, F 52 W KH PA PA PA Sarah E., F 22 D IN IN PA George W., M 19 S Fmr. IN IN PA Mary J., F 15 D IN IN PA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Roseville Township Page 393 YATES, Frank, M 28 Mech. MO ---- ---- Hester, F 18 W KH AR VA AR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teressa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: [ARLOGAN] Stewarts > Carole, > would you mind checking on your 1880 census to see if there are Stewarts > on there? That is my great grandma's maiden name, her brother was born > there...he was born in 1888 and she is older than him we believe...it > may show us who their parents were, or give us some names to research. > thanks so much > Teressa