This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Franklin, You can order the AR Prior Births from www.agsgenealogy.org I have volumes 1-6 and also 1-lX which came out later. Vol 1-lX is the one you should order as it has all the info from the first one plus those who applied later. Here are the directions to order the certs from the info I gave you: "To order a copy of these birth records, write to: Arkansas Department of Health, Division of Vital Records, 4815 West Markham St Slot 44, Little Rock, AR 72205-3867. You can visit the website www.healthyarkansas.com and download an application. If you wish, you may call (501) 661-2726 to use the credit card system or visit the website www.vitalchek.com to order. To obtain copies of certificates in this index, write on the top of the form "PRIOR BIRTH RECORDS" and include all the information from the index, including the filing year, volume, binder and certificate number." I am especially interested in Jane/James Gertrude's birth cert. It should have her father's name on it and his place of birth. Of course, if they knew it to give. Can not imagine where they married. Cass Co TX has a good listing of marriages, only ones I can access in Miller & Bowie are the unclaimed ones where I found the marriage for Lucretia to Sam Johnson. Since her sisters married in Miller and you have those, I would say if she married in Miller, hers would be there as well. Maybe they married in Bowie or McCurtain Co OK. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.