This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HELLENJOHNSON Surnames: Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1204/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the location of the Taaffee Cementery in Foreman Arkansas and relatives of Tobe Taaffee, my grandfather and great grandfather and relatives of. Also, my maternal grandmother's family Alfred Bell who I understand Indian Choctaw or Cherokee. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: missamerz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/363.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tilman Harris is my great grandfather he was born Feb, 10, 1882 and passed in 1954. His wife was named Opie Joplin and together they had 8 children. Tommy is my grandfather. Would love to know more if anyone has more information. I have a family tree that my uncle has put together. Amy Harris-Masini missamerz@cox.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LaGreen83 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/150.151.152.240.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The name Beula sounds very familier(Beula Grace (Hatfield or Craig) was married to my GrandpasŽhalf brother (John Wesley Green)Grandpa was born in 1856 in Illinois,his name is Joseph Franklin Green Married to Mary Jane Lybarger prior to 1895.Mary Jane remarried and died a Blackwell. My sister was born in Arkansas.I believe Beula Grace died between California and Texas .More I have no idea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ramonpaxton1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1203/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for information about Grant (African American). He was born in Louisiana and on the 1900 census he was in Little River, Arkansas. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieannbannisterlyons1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/150.173.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I noticed you have my father, Larry Lyle Bannister on here....How are you related to him? I am still trying to find family on his side of the family. Parents Blanche Clarinda Jane Hersom Bannister and Lloyd Bannister. Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jolioness2002 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/658.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much Rayedene so far that has been a big help I sent the info to my Dad and he said that it was some of the same things he recollects hearing from conversations his dad had with other family members and the info from the 1930-1940 were dead on. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/658.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Don't know how much you have found since your post but here are some things I found. Miranda D Smith died Jun 19 1914 in Little River Co AR. You can order her death certificate(if you haven't already done so) from the state. You need to include info: Vol 31 Roll:19141923 Pg:811 1920 Macoupin Co IL Henry is 4yrs 6mos on the census taken in Jan. He is living with Wm & Bertha Kirkland age 54 as a boarder. He states birth AR, both parents IL. 1930 Macoupin Co IL Henry L is 15 b AR, both parents IL. Living with JE Bowker and Winnie Alice as nephew. Wm Kirkland is there also as brother in law. 1940 Jersey Co IL Henry is married to Sylvia and they have a son, James age 2. I also found a death record for Bertha Alice Smith Padgett b 1902 in Hettick, Macoupin Co IL died in 1927 Sangamon Co.,IL. Father was Charles Williams Smith b Richmond MO, mother is Miranda Dawson b Fayette IL. Husb was Wilbur Padgett. 1900 Greene Co IL Charles W Smith b Apr 1874 IL and wife Miranda Jan 1875 KS with children Loyd Sep 1891 IL, Samuel M(StepSon) Aug 1893 KS, William G (StSon)Seb 1895 IL,Jacob G(StSon) June 1898 IL and Charles W Apr 1900. This census states they have been married 8 yrs(1892). 1910 LaClede Co IL Charles and Miranda with Charles W., Sylvia L 7, Clara E 3, Alice 1yr 6mos, Samuel Friedline (st son) & Wm G Freidline(st son). This census states they have been married 11yrs(1899), second marriage for each. 1880 Macoupin Co IL There is Wm 69 & Sarah Dawson 67 with son, Henry 47; all born in England. Children of Henry and unk spouse are listed as grandchildren of Wm & Sarah: Alace 18, Robert 16,David 13, Henry 10,Martha 8, Mary 6, Miranda 4 & Susan 2. All born in IL except for Miranda who states b KS. 1870 Macoupin Co IL Henry and Martha age 28 IL have children Wm 13, Robt 6,Alice 4, Elizabeth 3 & David 2. 1860 Macoupin Co IL Henry and Martha 22 have Wm H, Nancy Ann 2 and Mary E. There is an Aaron Ewell(?Ezell) 22 with them. David Dawson, son of Henry, died in TX. His death certifcate states his mother was Martha Ezell. Now, back to the aunt that raised Henry. There were two of them. One was Bertha Kirkland and the other was Winnie(or Minnie) Alice Bowker. I found a death for Winnie but not Bertha. Winnie died in 1934 in Macoupin Co, her husb James Edwin died 1932. Wm Kirkland died in 1934 and there is a Betty died in 1928. All four of these were in Medora IL. Henry Dawson died in Cass Co MO. His death certificate is online at http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ Good Luck, Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morkiemomo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/391.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow, I thank you for the information. I love the lewis site also. I think my tree is coming together far better than I thought just a week ago. I am starting to print info to look back at and start to absorb it. This is just a puzzle and you get to pick how many pieces you want to use. I have my father's grandfather's name that he never knew, I have met cousins never knew I had. And a lady that seems to know LR's people in the past very well. What an adventure! Thank you, Teresa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/391.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Teresa, There is a JD Lewis in LR Co doing research on this Lewis family. His email jd.lewis@senclewises.com The website is: http://www.senclewises.com/williamalfordcarye.html Looks as if Wm Lewis was married before he married Fletcher. This was in NC and there were several children born to them. 1880 Sampson Co NC Wm A Lewis 31 NC Elizabeth 28 NC Ida E 9 NC Wm H 6 NC Lula M 5 NC Georgiana 5 NC ?? M Laid female)1mo/(should be Major Loyd "Dock"; male) By 1896(marriage to Fletcher) mother Elizabeth was deceased. They had come to AR by 1885 as there are more children born from 1885 to 1890: Jennie 1885, John B 1888,Annie Bell 1889, Johnnie(female) 1890 and Joseph 1890. Marriages: Ida 16 md Lyman Davis 24 1886 LR Co Georgia 16 md AK (Andrew)Davis 35 1894 LR Co ?LM (Lula M)18 md WW Jordan 45 1894 LR Co Jennie 19 Robt Sumner Davis 33 1903 LR Co Annie 19 EF (Edward) Glover 26 LR Co 1906 LR Co Jonnie 18 Claud Beard 23 1906 LR Co Johnnie Beard 21 AK Patterson 30 1910 LR Co Georgie Davis 28 MD Saxton 26 LR Co Johnnie A Patterson 27 Arthur Bennett 26 1916 LR Co JW 24 to Arrie Broom 22 1914 LR Co Joe W 56 to Beulah Richardson 41 1946 LR Co 1900 LR Co AR Wm A Lewis Jul 1851 NC Fletcher J Sep 1876 AR Josephus Oct 1891 (believe he is Joseph from 1st marriage) Grace May 1897 1900 Arden TWP LR Co, Ida and her husb Lyman have Jennie living with them. Georgia and her husb Andrew Davis have Annie B & John A.(Jonnie-female) 1910 Howard Co AR Wm A Lewis 56 NC Fletcher J 33 md 14 yrs 9ch born with 5 living AR TN TN Gracie 13 AR Dovie 5 AR (enumerated as son) Alfred S 3 AR Vernon 2mos AR Virgil 2mos AR Joe 25 nephew AR Nancy Harwell 70 mthr-in-law TN TN TN 1910 Arden TWP, Jonnie(widow) is living with Georgia and her second husb with four Davis children. Jonnie has Eter (?Etta or Ester) 3 and Claud 1. 1920 Howard Co AR Wm A Lewis 67 NC Fletcher 44 AR Dovie 14 Vernon 9 Virgil 9 Willie 5 By 1923 Wm Lewis must have died as Fletcher Lewis remarried to JT Williamson May 16. Charlie and Gracie's children are with her and her husb in OK 1930. 1940 the ones not married are with Dovie and her husb in OK. 1930 Miller Co AR Author Bennett 39 AR Johnnie A 42 AR Matilda E 12 AR RC 10 AR Joe R 5 TX Dortha C 2 TX Claud Beard 20 AR step son Odus E Patterson 18 AR step son Lucile M 16 AR step dtr Ramond Saxton 22 AR nephew 1940 Arden TWP LR Co Have Claud, Joe, RC & Dorothy at home. Could not find Jonnie or any of her family in 1920 but did find where she is buried. She died in 1963 and is Arden Cem. So, Jonnie was half sister to Gracie. They had different mothers. Jonnie was married to Claud Beard, then AK Patterson and then finally Arthur Bennett. She had Claud Beard jr; Odus and Lucille Patterson; Matilda, RC, Joe & Dorothy Beard. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morkiemomo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/391.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rayedene, Do you have information in Johnnie? If half sibling, is her maiden name Lewis? My Aunt Gertrude has talked about an Aunt Johnnie. Which Parent to they share? Did she have children? Oh, yes, I am full of questions here!! lol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: iamflj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Raydene, the James Dare I saw in Cleveland OK in 1890 is on Ancestry's "Oklahoma, Territorial Census, 1890 and 1907". The index information does not give his place of birth, but it looks like it could be Illinois. I haven't found second or middle names for the Dorer family members who were in RR in the 1890's. Alfred can be left out as a possibility -- I know his history. Louis was born in 1868, and census records say Indiana was place of birth. By 1870 the family was in Illinois. There is a RR marriage, 9 Dec 1887 between him (I think) and A.F. Petty. Reference for that is "Red River County Marriage Records, 1886-1894, page 295; marriage performed by E.C. Martin". That would seem to exclude him. Always possible he remarried after that. The third son Samuel, born 1873 Illinois, married Abigail McClendon 4 Aug 1899 in Red River. That was 6 months after Lucretia married Samuel Johnson. Samuel Dorer was 26, so I've thought he could have had an earlier first marriage, but can't find any earlier record. I think I found the Louis Doerr you saw on the 1880 Illinois census. His mother was Gertrude, his father John, and in 1900 he's living with a married sister, Elizabeth Wachter. His age does not match the 1880 census, but she is Elizabeth Dorer Wachter and her 1900 address is on the father's 1902 death certificate. Louis Dorer's occupation on the 1900 census is 'railroad clerk'. His father was a 'lumberman'. I don't find any Arkansas link. Louis (died 1907), father John, and Elizabeth Wachter are all buried in the same cemetery in Chicago. I looked at the 1890 tax list and don't see Duncans from Lucretia's family. I've seen mortgage documents for E. and T.J. Duncan in LR from about 1882 to 1888. (Didn't make copies, unfortunately). These were Lucretia's father and brother Elijah and Thomas Jefferson Duncan. They were farming -- I don't know if they owned the land they farmed. I need to go back and get copies of those. By 1890 they may have moved or been on the way to Yell -- not sure. Franklin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Franklin, Several years ago I transcribed the 1890 tax list for LR Co. The link got deleted but today it is back. SM Johnson is in there and a couple of Duncans but no Dore, of course. The list is on the LR Co Gen site. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a feeling abt that Lewis Dorer in Red River. Although I can not find a way to connect them other than the similarities in the name and the proximity to LR Co. Of course, also the births being Ger and IL. That is the same family I had seen in an earlier census with a wife Gertrude, which is another common factor. Have we ever considered his name could be ____ James Dore or vice versa and went by James? I have searched on just Dore but have not had anything stand out, I have also searched on Dove, Doer, Dore*, Dore using soundex, anything I could possibly come up with. Just don't know enough abt him to be able to feel as if I even got close. I have the Mary Turner Kinard listings that has the 1890 territorial census for OK but I do not see him there as Dore or Dare. Do you have a different site that you use? I talked to my friend who live in Alleene east of Foreman. According to her 6 miles SE of Foreman would be around Wallace to Arden, most likely Wallace. I compared his land description to a book I have on the Twps, ranges, etc and it looks like Wallace to me. That is where my father was born in 1923 and his mother before him in 1899. Their family was Miller and stayed there until abt 1921-22. I have a booklet somewhere that names the ones who were members of the church there in Wallace. I will have to look high and low for that as it is with my Dad's stuff and I can't get a feel for where it is right now. If I find it, I will check it out to see if any of the names are listed. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Teresa, Not related to any of the sides. Just like to do the lookups and solve a mystery, especially when it comes to Little River Co. My father was born there and we made many trips for research before he passed away. I have lots of resources for there and always enjoy the challenge. Just wish I could access the newspapers from here in SE TX. Do a google search for familysearch and see if one of those links can let you access. It's the LDS that has the site, so maybe you can find a way with that info too. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morkiemomo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rayedene, I have tried to get the death certificate on the site you posted and for some reason my laptop gives me an error every time I try. I cleared my history and cache and no help. I have the copy from Franklin, so I don't need to get a copy. But upsetting that I can't use that site. Anyway, long story. I don't know how you are related to this search. Johnson side? Dores? Curious if we are related. I haven't gotten the dc for Mrs Charley Dore yet. I will be sharing when it arrives. Thanks for your help, Teresa Dore Lewis Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: iamflj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rayedene, Thank you for the information on ordering the certificates, I ordered them by phone and they should be in the mail today. A staffer at Vital Records, Arkansas Dept. of Health took the order since Vitalchek could not help with prior (before 1914) certificates. So hope to see them by next week and will let you and Teresa know if they give any new information. Re. marriages of Lucretia's sisters: Her oldest sister Annie J. married in TN before the family left, and later joined her parents and brother in Yell AR in the mid 1890's. Two other sisters were married in Little River County -- M.C. (Margarette Clemmons) Duncan married Tilford Penuel/Pennel in 1885 (also went on to Yell), and F.J. (Francis J) Duncan married William Annsted Sheppard in 1887. A fourth sister, and the only one younger than Lucretia, married in Bowie County TX in 1890 (Marriages, Bowie County, Texas Duncan, M. J. Reynolds, J. W. 1890). Will hope the certificates fill in some of the unknown information for Lucretia. Franklin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Franklin, You can order the AR Prior Births from www.agsgenealogy.org I have volumes 1-6 and also 1-lX which came out later. Vol 1-lX is the one you should order as it has all the info from the first one plus those who applied later. Here are the directions to order the certs from the info I gave you: "To order a copy of these birth records, write to: Arkansas Department of Health, Division of Vital Records, 4815 West Markham St Slot 44, Little Rock, AR 72205-3867. You can visit the website www.healthyarkansas.com and download an application. If you wish, you may call (501) 661-2726 to use the credit card system or visit the website www.vitalchek.com to order. To obtain copies of certificates in this index, write on the top of the form "PRIOR BIRTH RECORDS" and include all the information from the index, including the filing year, volume, binder and certificate number." I am especially interested in Jane/James Gertrude's birth cert. It should have her father's name on it and his place of birth. Of course, if they knew it to give. Can not imagine where they married. Cass Co TX has a good listing of marriages, only ones I can access in Miller & Bowie are the unclaimed ones where I found the marriage for Lucretia to Sam Johnson. Since her sisters married in Miller and you have those, I would say if she married in Miller, hers would be there as well. Maybe they married in Bowie or McCurtain Co OK. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morkiemomo Surnames: dore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am such a novice at this. I really appreciate all the help. I am not sure of all the abbreviations. The obvious ones, like AR I get but some others aren't clicking. I need to get up to speed. I just want to get past Charley's father's name, if I don't I am stuck. Thank you so much for keeping me in the loop. Rayedene, my personal email is morkiemomo@yahoo.com in case you find any thing in the future. I am signing up for 6 months. Hopefully The nem gets filled in by then. :) teresa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: iamflj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rayedene, I'm not familiar with AR Prior Births. You found some great information there. Gracie J. was Gracie JANE, and Lucretia E. was Lucretia EVELINE. And Gracie named her first daughter Evelyn/Eveline (not sure of the spelling). It's worth getting copies of those records. Jane Gertrude Dore's name on both the 1900 and 1910 census appears to be James, and apparently that's also on the AR Prior Births record. Name on her marriage license record is JANE Gertrude; the attached note of permission from step-father Samuel Johnson just gives her name as Gertrude. This is confusing. Re. Oklahoma and the Duncans: They were in Carroll, TN in 1880, and I found some mortgage records for them in LR from 1882 on. Two of Lucretia's sisters married in LR 1885 and 1887 and another in Bowie TX 1890. One of her brothers had a son born in Miller, AR in 1887, and another brother was in Bowie TX up to 1900. One brother and her parents (it seems) left LR about 1890, were in Yell AR until about 1898, and then Oklahoma. The brother from Bowie joined them there after 1900. So I haven't thought an earlier Dore marriage in Oklahoma for Lucretia was likely. Lucretia's four sisters married at ages 18-25, and I'm guessing Lucretia may have married Dore in AR or TX around 1889-90 when she would have been 20 or 21. Dore children were born 1892/94/96, and she had lost one child, likely Dore, according to the 1900 and 1910 census. I'm thinking that there should be a LR, Miller, or Bowie record for the marriage to Dore, but cannot find anything. Newspapers are another resource -- I haven't looked through them. When I visited the Ashdown library they were missing the role I wanted. Called Washington before going there, and they didn't have that role either. I gave up too quickly and should revisit that. Maybe the AR Prior deaths records have the answer. Have been talking to Teresa about the difficulty of this search. Maybe this is the key, Teresa. Hope so. Franklin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deeno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.littleriver/1153.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frank, I thought I had found Louis Dore. He was Louis Doerr in Chicago (1880)with parents Ludwig and Gertrude both b Prussia. Made sense to me because of birth places for the Dore children's father was Il or Ger on the census and also because of Jane being Jane Gertrude. I went on to find Louis died in 1907 in Chicago. Could not find him in the 1900 census tho. Don't think JB Dorough is the right one for being the father of the children. I can not see the image of the license, or there is not one, but the description for Mary L Duncan is "Mrs". On the AR Prior Births, there is JAMES Gertrude Dore(mthr Lou Duncan) b Jun 17 1896 LR Co. I knew I had seen her as James Gertrude someplace but had forgotten where. To order this(maybe her father is named): Year 1958,binder 1, Volume 020, Certificate 3834. There is also one for Gracie Jane Johnson. This may be a great find as her mother is named Lucretia EVELINE Duncan b Nov 10 1899 LR Co. Year 1958, Binder 1, Volume 024, Certificate 4767. Those are the only 2 I see for Lou. Since Lou's family moved to OK could she have married Dore there? Could be a long shot but there are newspapers for that time frame in the lib at Ashdown and aslo as the archives at Old Washington. There just may be a mention of Dore's death. Rayedene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.