I really don't know if or where the records would be kept. Have you tried the Arkansas Dept. of Health? You might try getting their death certificates. That should tell you something. Sorry I'm not much help. There was a stigma attached to having TB back in the earlier years. You didn't have any choice about going to a sanitarium. Lou Smith
Is there records available for that facility, Do you know?? Melodee Slaney melnsam123@aol.com
There was a TB Sanitarium at Booneville. My mother was there in the mid-1940's. Booneville is closer to Fort Smith than Rover is. I think Booneville is in Logan County. That was back when they sent people away from their families. It is so much better now. I believe the sanitarium at Booneville is closed now. Lou Smith Burke, VA
Hello List- seeking a TB Sanatorium that was close to or near Rover,Ark. My ancestors Hellen and John Michener or Michiner may have gone their for treatment and also have died. I hope to obtain records if available, Thanks in advance for any information. Melodee Slaney melnsam123@aol.com
I think the TB sanatorium was at Booneville, Ar. My Aunt was there about 1952. Ilene cherokee@mtnhome.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Melnsam123@aol.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: [ARKANSAS] Information on a TB Sanatorium in or near Rover, Ark > Hello List- seeking a TB Sanatorium that was close to or near Rover,Ark. My > ancestors Hellen and John Michener or Michiner may have gone their for > treatment and also have died. I hope to obtain records if available, Thanks in > advance for any information. Melodee Slaney melnsam123@aol.com > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ARKANSAS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ARKANSAS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
bj, Thanks for your kind coaching. I will see how that works for me. Probably find out I don't have it either, but Ancestry is also available thru our local public library in that case.. as is something called Heritage that I haven't tried yet. ron in CA -------Original Message------- From: bj berrykeeper <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> Sent: 08/10/03 10:12 AM To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > > I'm not sure. I just typed in his name and it came up with a list of places that his name showed up.... census, death, probate, newspaper..... then I clicked on newspaper and it told me which paper it was supposed to be in (as it turns out it wasn't him). Of course, the newspaper part is a seperate subscription so I couldn't get into it. Give it a try. Type your grandfather's name in the search space in ancestry and see what comes up. bj "ron stone <blueoak@ix.netcom.com>" <blueoak@ix.netcom.com> wrote:Duh, didn't know Ancestry had a "newspaper collection". I would have checked for my grgrandfather in it. He died Oct 9, 1904. Would it go back that far for a small place like Stuttgart? ron in CA -------Original Message------- From: gary Sent: 08/10/03 01:25 AM To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > > The article was not about Prettyman Berry but about two people one named Prettyman and the other Berry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj berrykeeper" To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > Hello. According to ancestry.com, there is supposed to be an article about Prettyman and Elizabeth Berry in the; > Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.), 1910-19 > > I'm thinking that it must be the obituary for Prettyman and his ..snip.. ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== ListAdministrator of Arkansas-L Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
I'm not sure. I just typed in his name and it came up with a list of places that his name showed up.... census, death, probate, newspaper..... then I clicked on newspaper and it told me which paper it was supposed to be in (as it turns out it wasn't him). Of course, the newspaper part is a seperate subscription so I couldn't get into it. Give it a try. Type your grandfather's name in the search space in ancestry and see what comes up. bj "ron stone <blueoak@ix.netcom.com>" <blueoak@ix.netcom.com> wrote:Duh, didn't know Ancestry had a "newspaper collection". I would have checked for my grgrandfather in it. He died Oct 9, 1904. Would it go back that far for a small place like Stuttgart? ron in CA -------Original Message------- From: gary Sent: 08/10/03 01:25 AM To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > > The article was not about Prettyman Berry but about two people one named Prettyman and the other Berry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj berrykeeper" To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > Hello. According to ancestry.com, there is supposed to be an article about Prettyman and Elizabeth Berry in the; > Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.), 1910-19 > > I'm thinking that it must be the obituary for Prettyman and his ..snip.. ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== ListAdministrator of Arkansas-L Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Thank you Gary, I appreciate it. bj gary <whittierak@yukontel.com> wrote:The article was not about Prettyman Berry but about two people one named Prettyman and the other Berry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj berrykeeper" To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > Hello. According to ancestry.com, there is supposed to be an article about Prettyman and Elizabeth Berry in the; > Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.), 1910-19 > > I'm thinking that it must be the obituary for Prettyman and his last wife Precious, since they died in some sort of accident around this time (Elizabeth died in childbirth in 1861). I don't have the newspaper subscription part of ancestry. If someone would please, please take a look at the article and copy it for me, I sure would appreciate it. I've been wondering how they died. Thank you, bj > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== We have archives!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Duh, didn't know Ancestry had a "newspaper collection". I would have checked for my grgrandfather in it. He died Oct 9, 1904. Would it go back that far for a small place like Stuttgart? ron in CA -------Original Message------- From: gary <whittierak@yukontel.com> Sent: 08/10/03 01:25 AM To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > > The article was not about Prettyman Berry but about two people one named Prettyman and the other Berry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj berrykeeper" <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > Hello. According to ancestry.com, there is supposed to be an article about Prettyman and Elizabeth Berry in the; > Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.), 1910-19 > > I'm thinking that it must be the obituary for Prettyman and his ..snip..
The article was not about Prettyman Berry but about two people one named Prettyman and the other Berry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj berrykeeper" <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Need newspaper look up pretty please? > Hello. According to ancestry.com, there is supposed to be an article about Prettyman and Elizabeth Berry in the; > Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.), 1910-19 > > I'm thinking that it must be the obituary for Prettyman and his last wife Precious, since they died in some sort of accident around this time (Elizabeth died in childbirth in 1861). I don't have the newspaper subscription part of ancestry. If someone would please, please take a look at the article and copy it for me, I sure would appreciate it. I've been wondering how they died. Thank you, bj > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello. According to ancestry.com, there is supposed to be an article about Prettyman and Elizabeth Berry in the; Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.), 1910-19 I'm thinking that it must be the obituary for Prettyman and his last wife Precious, since they died in some sort of accident around this time (Elizabeth died in childbirth in 1861). I don't have the newspaper subscription part of ancestry. If someone would please, please take a look at the article and copy it for me, I sure would appreciate it. I've been wondering how they died. Thank you, bj --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
unsubscribe >From: "gary" <whittierak@yukontel.com> >Reply-To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com >To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 22:39:55 -0800 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: " Frederick Powell Sr" <powell@closecall.com> >To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:02 PM >Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > > > > BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two >regarding > > that information? > > > > What are canoe people? > > > > Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, >too.]. > > > > Again, my thanks. > > > > Fran > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: bj berrykeeper <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> > > To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > > > > > > > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello >Lake. > > I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj > > > > > > > > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > > Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== >We have archives!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
----- Original Message ----- From: " Frederick Powell Sr" <powell@closecall.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two regarding > that information? > > What are canoe people? > > Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, too.]. > > Again, my thanks. > > Fran > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bj berrykeeper <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> > To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > > > > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello Lake. > I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj > > > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hi again BJ: Google searches produce a great deal of information on Lake Wappapello, but so far I have found nothing on the folks who lived there. Perhaps I will read some of the far-down-the-hits-information and see if I find anything. Thanks so much for all the help you have been. I will view each of the sites for which you have sent urls. Thomas A. PAXTON had a daughter, Ida May, who married, first, Edward BARRETT. This occurred in New Madrid Co., MO. We have been unable to discover whether Ida May and Edward divorced or whether Edward died or whether he abandoned her and their two children. At any rate in the Crittenden Co., AR census of 1900, Ida May Paxton Barrett is now married to John W. POWELL and their race is Black, per the census taker. The couple were in Poinsett Co., AR census of 1910 and again they are listed racially as Black. Family legend tells that the folks were Wappapello. Believe me, I don't think someone dreamed up such a name, but so far two years of research have produced nothing on either Native or Black ancestry. Ida May's mother was Elizabeth COFLAN. She claimed AL as her home state so for one year I have been reviewing some AL Native records and, again, have found nothing on the Wappapello. Nor have I found anything on any of the Native rolls found at NARA. A family history of the PAXTON lineage has been done taking us back to KY about the late 1700's. So far, not even a hint of Native ancestry. I have written to Osage, Shawnee, and some Cherokee folks seeking information, not on the family, but on the Wappapello People, and again have found nothing until I posed the question to this and the MO lists. One kind researcher told me to search out the Pamunkey People of VA as the Wappapello were associated with them. So, with that, and all you have provided, maybe something will turn up, enabling me to further check the folks' ancestry. I so appreciate your time and help. We are descended from Hilibi Creek. As far as I know our People were not known as anything except rogue warriors in ancient days. Walk in peace. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Hi Fran, The source is me. I taught Native American Indian Education for five years, and I'm Cherokee.
BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two regarding that information? What are canoe people? Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, too.]. Again, my thanks. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello Lake. I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj
Fran, Remember that most of the old census takers were instructed to write "white" down only if there were no trace of any "other" heritage. Indian's were often listed as "black" or "mulatto". bj Frederick Powell Sr <powell@closecall.com> wrote:Hi again BJ: Google searches produce a great deal of information on Lake Wappapello, but so far I have found nothing on the folks who lived there. Perhaps I will read some of the far-down-the-hits-information and see if I find anything. Thanks so much for all the help you have been. I will view each of the sites for which you have sent urls. Thomas A. PAXTON had a daughter, Ida May, who married, first, Edward BARRETT. This occurred in New Madrid Co., MO. We have been unable to discover whether Ida May and Edward divorced or whether Edward died or whether he abandoned her and their two children. At any rate in the Crittenden Co., AR census of 1900, Ida May Paxton Barrett is now married to John W. POWELL and their race is Black, per the census taker. The couple were in Poinsett Co., AR census of 1910 and again they are listed racially as Black. Family legend tells that the folks were Wappapello. Believe me, I don't think someone dreamed up such a name, but so far two years of research have produced nothing on either Native or Black ancestry. Ida May's mother was Elizabeth COFLAN. She claimed AL as her home state so for one year I have been reviewing some AL Native records and, again, have found nothing on the Wappapello. Nor have I found anything on any of the Native rolls found at NARA. A family history of the PAXTON lineage has been done taking us back to KY about the late 1700's. So far, not even a hint of Native ancestry. I have written to Osage, Shawnee, and some Cherokee folks seeking information, not on the family, but on the Wappapello People, and again have found nothing until I posed the question to this and the MO lists. One kind researcher told me to search out the Pamunkey People of VA as the Wappapello were associated with them. So, with that, and all you have provided, maybe something will turn up, enabling me to further check the folks' ancestry. I so appreciate your time and help. We are descended from Hilibi Creek. As far as I know our People were not known as anything except rogue warriors in ancient days. Walk in peace. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Hi Fran, The source is me. I taught Native American Indian Education for five years, and I'm Cherokee. ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== Visit the Arkansas message board here- http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.arkansas ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Hi Fran, This is the e-mail address to the Cherokee Heritage Museum. I would ask them about the Wappapello people. They are a world of knowledge and have helped me many, many times. bj info@cherokeeheritage.org <info@cherokeeheritage.org> Frederick Powell Sr <powell@closecall.com> wrote:BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two regarding that information? What are canoe people? Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, too.]. Again, my thanks. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello Lake. I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Hi Fran, I've been looking for information for you. I can't believe I can't find anything on them. They were a pretty small tribe as I recall. Maybe the Missouri State Library has some information? They might be part of the Osage? That's a long shot... I'm sorry I can't help more. I thought I could. bj Frederick Powell Sr <powell@closecall.com> wrote:BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two regarding that information? What are canoe people? Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, too.]. Again, my thanks. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello Lake. I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Sorry Fran, I'm not finding a whole lot about them online. I have a BIA book somewhere, I can try and find it and see if they're listed in there. bj Frederick Powell Sr <powell@closecall.com> wrote: BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two regarding that information? What are canoe people? Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, too.]. Again, my thanks. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello Lake. I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
http://newstribune.com/stories/011502/com_0115020016.asp This one is a little better.... Frederick Powell Sr <powell@closecall.com> wrote: BJ, thank you for the information. Please answer a question or two regarding that information? What are canoe people? Where did you obtain this information [so that I can view the source, too.]. Again, my thanks. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: bj berrykeeper To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Wappapello > Fran, They are canoe people from Missouri. They lived on Wappapello Lake. I think Wappapello Lake is on the Arkansas Missouri border. bj ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software