With best wishes for a joyful and peace-filled holiday season to each of you. May 2004 see all of your brick walls come tumbling down. (And mine, too!) Nancy I made 4 pages this year, once I got started, I couldn't seem to stop. :-) Christmas in the Civil War: www.thepastwhispers.com/Christmas_Civil_War I Am the Christmas Spirit: www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/Christmas A Cowboy's Christmas: www.thepastwhispers.com/Cowboys_Christmas Yes, Virginia, There is a Santa Claus: www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/Virginia Please excuse crossposts. Nancy Brister, researching: Baldridge, Cain, Courtney, Curtis, Carmichael, Dawkins, Doty, Garmon, Garrett, Hanon, Jackson, McCormick, Matthews, Osborne, Robertson, Sharp, Stampley, Stringer, Warren and more!

I found this census record.... We had her as "Elizabeth A." FLOWERS as found on earlier census. The "A" could have stood for Angeline, as in this census. The area & ages fit, anyone researching this family & or are descendants please contact me. Thanks, Carolyn FLOWERS Tucker John COOPER/Self/M/Male/W/45/TN/   Farm Labor/TN/TN/.   Angeline COOPER/ Wife/M/Female/W/35/AR/Keeping House/TN/TN/.   Sarah E.COOPER/ Dau/S/Female/W/6/AR/TN/AR/.   William R.COOPER/ Son/S/Male/W/4M/AR/TN/AR/.  1880 Arkansas Census Source Information: Census Place Griffin Twp., Conway Co. AR, Arkansas Family History Library Film  1254041 NA Film Number  T9-0041  Page Number  372B  

--part1_1ea.14eece7f.2d04cf41_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_1ea.14eece7f.2d04cf41_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <Firefighter635@ev1.net> Received: from rly-xg04.mx.aol.com (rly-xg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.201]) by air-xg04.mail.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXG42-4663fd36df0248; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:14:33 -0500 Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by rly-xg04.mx.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXG46-4663fd36df0248; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:14:08 -0500 Received: from CUPOLA ([68.233.189.172]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031207181412.IORL13090.mta11.adelphia.net@CUPOLA> for <Scalawag1867@aol.com>; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c3bced$f0764660$6402a8c0@CUPOLA> From: "Earnie Breeding" <Firefighter635@ev1.net> To: <Scalawag1867@aol.com> References: <1eb.14e809cc.2d04b12a@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Alabama] Pearl Harbor Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:14:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-AOL-IP: 68.168.78.205 I remember two people on Pearl Harbour day. Thearon A. Blankenship S1C of USS Arizona. He still is a crew member serving on his duty station. 21 years old, A native of Morgan Co., Al. According to my genealogy chart he was my 4th cousin once removed. Growing up he was cousin Thearon. There is an empty grave at New Center Baptist Church in Morgan Co. The headstone gives the dates of birth and death and states. Remember Pearl Harbour. The other is not a relative, except by profession he is my brother. I was Navy he was Army. Col John Wesley Loud was a First Lieutenant in the field artillary, stationed at Ft De Russy. His large guns were too big to fire at the attacking planes, so he grabbed a Springfield and shot away. `He and his bride of 4 months had hosted a party the night before at the O club. In a few days she was bound stateside while John went south and participated in the Solomons campaign. After that he came back stateside for a few months and the headed to Europe where he participated in many large battles as a field intelligence officer. He then was active in the Military government of Germany and returned to Civilian life in 1948. Like me he kept his military affilation through the reserves. He retired a COL. He and I were in the Old Guard of the Gate City Guard together. We lost John this past year and we do miss him so. Rest in peace brothers. Earnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scalawag1867@aol.com> To: <ALABAMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: [Alabama] Pearl Harbor > > > > REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR > > DECEMBER 7, 1941 > > > > ==== ALABAMA Mailing List ==== > Alabama help! http://www.rootsweb.com/~algenweb/index.html > Alabama Sites! http://www.stategensites.com/ > > > --part1_1ea.14eece7f.2d04cf41_boundary--

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Hi Gayle, My Berry's were from Virginia, moved to Eastern tennessee, then came to Arkansas. They were a lively bunch!!! looks like we missed out on all the fun.The stories I've been told since started our genalogy has kept me laughing for days..The things they did back then, if we did them today we would all be in Jail... Ah! the good old Days...

Hi Teresa: Your ancestors sound a lot like my Garrett ancestors. They came from Virginia, both South & North Carolina, both Union & Rabun Co.Georgia, Benton Co. Arkansas & then western Kansas. Gayle M. Garrett Gayle M. Garrett & Ann Bush County Coordinator: Co-Coordinator Trego County Kansas GenWeb genealogy site. <http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/trego/> Graham County Kansas GenWeb genealogy site. <http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/graham/index.html> Sheridan County Kansas GenWeb genealogy site. <http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/sheridan/index.html> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj berrykeeper" <bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Berry's in Arkansas.... > Hi Teresa, I'm an Arkansas Berry. Before Arkansas, we came from Georgia. Before Georgia we came from South Carolina. Before South Carolina we came from Kentucky and North Carolina. North Carolina is right next to Virginia.....is that close enough? My e-mail is bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com Hope we're related.... bj > > Teresa Harvey <peanutprotecter@webtv.net> wrote: > Looking to connect with Arkansas Berry's who came to Arkansas from > Virginia. My Berry's are from Crawford Co., came here from Tennessee, > but were from Va. > Teresa Berry Harvey > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > We have archives!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

January 28, 1916 LETTER 126 YEARS OLD DESCRIBES PREVALENCE OF LAGRIPPE Many of us are prone to believe that lagrippe is a comparatively new disease and this it made its first appearance in this country thirty years ago, this opinion even being held by many reputable physicians and other medical authorities of today. Below we publish an excerpt from a letter written November 30, 1789 by Dr. John Scott of Chestertown, Maryland, to his son, Dr. Edward Scott, a student of physics at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The writer of this old letter was the great grandfather of Mr. P D Scott of this city, while the medical student to whom it was addressed was Mr. Scott’s grandfather, and it was through the courtesy of Mrs. P D Scott that the Press-Argus is permitted to republish it as a matter of historical worth and should prove very interesting to the medical profession and our readers at large, the majority of whom have recently suffered violent attacks of this old disease. The letter follows: "The Influenza as yet prevails, and sweeps off whole Familys in the forest of Queen Ann, Kent, Talbot & etc. The symptoms you mention are the same with us, but a putrifaction diathesis in many cases soon come on, such as great sickness of the stomach, head and dibility and in many cases in the beginning a soreness and rawness all around the fauces, breast, throat and stomach with the greatest degree of irritation in the stomach, so that no medicine whatever that had stimuli could be taken or kept on the stomach. There is no doubt but real specific contagion took place or why should every person in the family get the disease. The earth with us having been long dry, the night dews and rain coming on have occasion miasmata to mix with the air, the bad state of the air gave the septic tendency of the disease, and proved so fatal here. Miss Mollie Telghman was buried yesterday. In the inflamatory stage of the complaint we bled and even repeated it with success, but there were many cases tho the difficult breathing and severe pain in the breast, and incessant cough continued in which we could not venture on bleeding. Small doses of Tartar and Laund’n were after given with success, together with Nitre and large blisters to the heart, & etc. I have lost none under it yet. Wine, Wine whey, with a cordial supporting diet, under the latter stage of the disease answered well together with the use of Rad. Serp. V. when the pulse had sunk and in some cases the bard added, tho, this last medicine seldom answers where the breathing continued difficult, and there was an interrupted circulation, the lungs stuffed with mucus, & etc. Dr. Anderson has recovered." ESCAPED MURDERER WRITES PENITENTIARY OFFICIAL Little Rock, January 25.- Warden Broadnax, at the State Penitentiary on Monday received a letter from Lee Blount, one of the 24 state convicts who escaped from the farm at Cummins last week. The letter was mailed on a train leaving Little Rock Sunday night, and said that he was willing to surrender to the authorities and return to the penitentiary, if they would agree to pay the $50 reward to his wife. He said further that he would call them up by long distance telephone Monday, but he failed to do so. The penitentiary officials believed they had located him in the vicinity of his old home at Mayflower, Faulkner County, and left for that place last night to apprehend him. Blount, accounted one of the most desperate convicts in the penitentiary, is serving 21 years for murder. Fran Alverson Warren e-mail: alverson@valuelinx.net 479-369-2703 http://www.crawfordcountyarkansas.net/

Hi Teresa, I'm an Arkansas Berry. Before Arkansas, we came from Georgia. Before Georgia we came from South Carolina. Before South Carolina we came from Kentucky and North Carolina. North Carolina is right next to Virginia.....is that close enough? My e-mail is bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com Hope we're related.... bj Teresa Harvey <peanutprotecter@webtv.net> wrote: Looking to connect with Arkansas Berry's who came to Arkansas from Virginia. My Berry's are from Crawford Co., came here from Tennessee, but were from Va. Teresa Berry Harvey ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== We have archives!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now

Looking to connect with Arkansas Berry's who came to Arkansas from Virginia. My Berry's are from Crawford Co., came here from Tennessee, but were from Va. Teresa Berry Harvey

Hello All & Happy Thanksgiving, I have long been curious about this Chief J.W. FLOWERS, as he is in Arkansas (AR) in 1828 traveling -from- where I don't know. I know Chief GUESS later is in Pope Co. AR, as are my FLOWERS later in 1840, Pope County was origially part of the AR Indian Reservation before the Trail of Tears-their removal to OK. I did some research on Montgomery's Point- it follows Rev. Washburn's book exerpt. A copy of his book is available at the downtown Little Rock AR library. Anyone with any knowledge of this Chief J.W. FLOWERS-please contact me. Thanks, Carolyn FLOWERS Tucker carolynftucker@webtv.net Exerpt From the book: 'Reminescences of the Indians' by the Rev. Cephas WASHBURN 1828 - January "Cephas WASHBURN, when a missionary of the General Assembly's Board, on his way to Little Rock, was detained for near a week at Montgomery's Point, waiting for a passage up the Arkansas. At the same place was a delegation of Cherokee chiefs, waiting for an opportunity to ascent the Mississippi, on their way to Washington city. I regarded myself in no ordinary degree favored by being permitted to occupy the same apartment with these dignified men. The delegation, so far as is now remembered, consisted of John and James ROGERS, Major MAW, George MORRIS, Black Fox, <>J.W. FLOWERS, and GUESS, the celebrated inventor of the Cherokee alphabet. The white men here, as is generally the case at places of public resort, were, many of them, boisterous and profane, gamblers and drunkards. But the chiefs were sedate and dignified, no profaneness was heard from the lips of those who spoke English. There was a peculiarity about them which made an impression upon my mind, which a third of a century has not effaced. Their tall figures, bronze complexions, statue-like attitudes, and unknown language, all pointed them out as a peculiar variety of our race, and led me strongly to desire a more intimate knowledge of them as a people." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Info on Montgomery's Point, Arkansas From: Indian Removal through Arkansas ANPA Home Page http://www.anpa.ualr.edu      "The tiny settlement at the mouth of the White River was almost as old as Arkansas Post, having been established in 1776 by Francois D. ARMOND, a wealthy fur trader who erected some log buildings and made it his home.  However, after Montgomery's business interests prospered, it became known as Montgomery's Point, and its importance in the early steamboat era cannot be overemphasized.  Charles Fenton Mercer NOLAND wrote that in 1826 it was the great trading point for all of North Arkansas, and for a great deal of South Arkansas.  Most boats passing from either the Arkansas or White rivers touched at Montgomery's Point.  The remarkable aspect, NOLAND noted, was that a person could pass down those rivers into the Mississippi without going through the mouth of either, which was accomplished by a chute between the two rivers.       The late Captain Charles H. WARNER, an active river pilot from Batesville, once wrote: The gateway [by water] to the interior of that area which was to eventually become Arkansas were the mouths of the Arkansas and White rivers.  These rivers empty into the Mississippi within a few miles of each other, and some distance up White River there is a chute called the Arkansas Cut-Off, which connects the two streams.  This system of waterways forms a huge island around which a boat may circle, if desired, by going up the White River, through the cut-off, down the Arkansas, and up the Mississippi to the mouth of the White.      Montgomery's Point became a transfer point for passengers and freight from the bigger boats of the Mississippi River to the smaller ones running on the Arkansas and White Rivers, and the forwarding and commission business of MONTGOMERY, MILLER, and Company increased.   Moses GREENWOOD, later a prominent New Orleans merchant, was employed to manage the firm, leaving MONTGOMERY free to pursue his other interests.  GREENWOOD came to Little Rock in 1829, where he had a store, but moved it to Arkansas Post in 1830.  He left shortly thereafter for Montgomery's Point; however, he later stated that he also had business interests at McLean's Bottom and Martin's Ferry (now Van Buren) in 1831-1832."       Next:     "Seemingly on the pinnacle of success, disaster struck the steamboat line (Montgomery, Miller, & Company) in June 1833.  Cholera was raging along the Mississippi River Ports when Captain MILLER and the Reindeer left the plague-ridden city of New Orleans, bound for the mouth of the White River.  Several passengers boarded the boat at Vicksburg, Mississippi, one of whom spread the disease to the other passengers and crew.  When the Reindeer docked at Montgomery's Point, Captain MILLER took sick suddenly.  After an illness of only four or five hours he succumbed, and the boat left for Little Rock with Captain COCHRAN in command.      When the vessel reached the capitol city (Little Rock) on June 23, 1833, she was in a distressed condition, having lost six of her passengers and crew from the ravages of cholera.  Another of the passengers was at the point of death, and almost everyone on board was "more or less affected by the disease."  Passenger Matthew COFFEE was lost on June 18, and steward A. NEDAD, fireman James REA, passenger John ALLEN, pilot George NORRIS, and chief engineer L.H. EDSON died on June 19.  Nevertheless, the Reindeer was thoroughly scrubbed, another pilot and engineer hired, and the boat left for Fort Gibson.  Passengers who remained at Little Rock told when the Reindeer left New Orleans, cholera was raging with between 150 and 200 persons dying daily and business was at a standstill.  The disease was rampant all along the Mississippi, with the woodyards becoming burial grounds.  No casualties were reported on the Volant, but Captain TURNER replaced Charles KELLY as master, so he may have become ill." Source: Huddleston,  Duane, "The Volant and Reindeer Early Arkansas Steamboats," Pulaski County Historical Review, Little Rock, AR,  June, 1976. Volume XXIV, No 2 "In 1830, Montgomery Point consisted of the warehouses of David MILLER and William MONTGOMERY and their store and tavern.  Montgomery's tavern was in the former trading house of Francis D'ARMOND, a French trader who had built it and later sold it to Montgomery.  The house stood on high brick pillars about 250 yards from the White River.  They became a transfer point for passengers, goods, and mail from up and down the Mississippi, whose destination points were on the White or Arkansas Rivers." Source: English, Jo Claire, Pages from the Past: Historical notes on Clarendon, Monroe County and Early Arkansas.  Clarendon, AR 1976.  p.21. "The Point had an unsavory reputation in the 1830s for being a den for gamblers and other no goods." Source: Francis J. Scully, "Across Arkansas in 1844," Arkansas Historical Society, Vol 13 Spring, 1954, 36n.8.

In a message dated 11/23/2003 10:30:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com writes: > Why would it even matter what he thinks? Every one has an opinion. This > is just his. It's obvious to everyone else that he's wrong. Just let it go. > bj BJ, This is what the delete button is for. I may not be interested in what you are researching, so when I see your JB Berry, I just delete and keep going. If what he says is true, where would the black people stand when entering suits again our white ancestors, if we were not longer related to anyone past our third generation. Neither of my great grandpa's own slaves, but my grandpas from the fourth generation back did own slave. I think he has open some very interested thoughts, not meaning to. BJ, we are discussing our ancestors we on not off subject. I am ready to push on. I am trying to answer each person who have sent me messages and URL addresses where it shows we are related. Most people I have talked to has found this subject interesting and have talked to others about their own ancestors being connected. Thanks for your opinions and I wish you luck in your researching your ancestors. Sandra > >

Hi Glenda, My ggf was Reuben Ramsey, b. 8-1842 in Reading , PA. His line of descent was Scotland to NO. Ireland to USA. The name of his father was settled until I found a census in 1880 Vermilion Co. Illinois. That raised a question I am trying to resolve. Reuben moved into Stuttgart, AR area sometime around the late 1890s it seems. He died there in Oct of 1904. I am in touch with a few of his descendants since I started looking. He was a union soldier in the civil war. (93rd PA Inf for sure and maybe one other unit) Carrying his name forward were sons, Otto W and Jessie. Otto died in NY having not returned to AR after serving in WW1. Jessie died in AR and is said to be buried around Stuttgart. ron At 06:58 AM 11/24/03 -0600, you wrote: >Would like to know about your Ramseys. >Mine came to Izard County from Bedford County, TN >Thanks, Glenda > >Scalawag1867@aol.com wrote: >> >> A EMAIL i RECEIVED FROM ARKANSAS: Was this FBI fellow talking about >> "sideways" relationships" ? instead of >> "vertical" >> ones? >> >> I remember that there used to be a parlor game where kids sat in a circle >> and one would whisper a "fact" to the one on his right and the "fact" would > > >==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== >Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 11/23/2003 4:19:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com writes: bjberry, Did you used to have a Black forum or work for a radio station? I thought I reconized your name. <A HREF="mailto:bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com"> </A>

In a message dated 11/23/2003 4:22:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com writes: > <A HREF="mailto:bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com">bjberrykeeper@yahoo.com</A> > bj, I sent this email out to lists that I have ancestors on. I felt like I would receive a few answers, but not hundreds. Evidently, the subject matter was close to home and many joined in with information to share. I am sorry you see this request for information about our ancestors as spam and takes up space. But I do not regret placing the question , for I have gained valued information for my book about my ancestors and yours also. By the way , I am researching Sarah Catherine Alexander who married Joseph R. Waldrop ,in the mid 1850s. They married somewhere near Crittenton, Arkansas. Some of my Waldrop ancestors are buried in Stuttgart, Arkansas. I am not sure how you spell this name Stuagart, Waldrop ancestors are buried in a Cemetery there. Thank you for information you can share. I am in Georgia, if I can help you in any areas in Washington County, Alabama, let me know. I have , whild researching my ancestors gathered info about other families traveling with them from the Carolina, traveling towardsVirginia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and Texas. The Waldrops married into the families of Throntons, Scotts, Higgingbottoms,Heards, Richardsons, Alexander, Thomas, Baxter, My Baxters married into the families of Deas, Cooper, Longs, Turners, Dearmans, Lopers, McGuires , Woulards , Willifords Buckalews, Willifords and more in Alabama and Mississippi. I ask for information, and I am always happy to pass on any information that I have Gathered. Berry is my gr gr grandpapa's middle name. Green Berry Waldrop. Stories go that in the Reverend War there were two Generals named , one Green and the other Berry. The familles named their children after the Reverend War like after the Civil War , Southerners named their children Lee. My middle name is Lee and we have at least twelve "Lees" including inlaws. I have found in the early 1800s many named their children Green , Berry , Green Berry or Greenberry. Then we have the surname Berry. Have you researched the Berry name. We have the surname Berry here in Georgia. A friend of ours was the daughter of Dr. Arthur Berry , he was born in the very early 1900s maybe 1906 or 1910. He wasn't from Georgia, he moved here in the 1840s. I really do not know where he moved from. His name is pretty popular his sister and brothers were well know in the State of Georgia and had roads named after them and other things. BJ, I will be more than happy to share with you . Arkansas had certainly come thru for me in my question, "Are we related to our Ancestors." Have a good day. Sandra maiden name Waldrop Georgia

> Also, it's good to keep in mind that African People are > sort of like Native American People (and European People > and Asian People too), in the respect that there are many > different tribes and we all have a different look. For Absolutely. There are at least as many languages spoken among black Africans as there are Native American languages. btw, the anthropologists don't classify black Africans as one group: I've seen some anthropology texts that classify them into three groups [different names], the West Africans (such as the Nigerians), the Bushmen and their kin, and the East Africans (such as the Masai). I have Native American ancestry in several different lines, and I've spent 19 years tracking down documentation, so I get positively _ill_ when I hear or see someone making generalizations about Native American cultures. (My more recent ancestors did a terrific job of keeping secrets, but it's very important to me to know the truth.) Also, I've lived over much of the South, and I've noticed that people from even small areas can have a "look". That's one of the reasons I like living here in Upstate South Carolina: I look like I'm a native. (I have very distant kin all over the place here.) Elizabeth Whitaker > instance, to a Cherokee, there's no way that a Sioux > "looks like us". A Navajo and a Yakima look completely > different. I'm not talking about traditional clothing. > I'm talking about bone structure, body build, coloring, > even the way we walk and talk. It's pretty easy to spot > an Italian or an Irish person by their skin coloring and > build too. It's easy to say someone "looks" like they > come from an entire continent of course, but if you look a > little deeper, you'll see that within the continents, > exists true herititary traits. African's (actually from > Africa) come in many, many shades. bj > > whitaker@innova.net wrote: > > The standard anthropological > assumption is that blacks in the U.S. average only 30% > black African ancestry: I think, that between U.S. blacks > who "look African" [I worked with a lady who had an eerie > physical resemblance to one of the African extras in the > second Romancing the Stone movie.] and U.S. blacks who > would have "passed" 50 years ago, that's a reasonable > assumption. I've also noticed regional differences in > black appearance: for example, I had many black co-workers > in the D.C. area who were very light -- they were always > from families with long histories in the D.C. area -- and > others who were very dark -- they were always either born > in the Carolinas or Alabama or their parents had been. > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John > Fuller's most helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --------------------------------------------- Check Your Email From Any Where in the World! http://www.myemail.com

Would like to know about your Ramseys. Mine came to Izard County from Bedford County, TN Thanks, Glenda Scalawag1867@aol.com wrote: > > A EMAIL i RECEIVED FROM ARKANSAS: Was this FBI fellow talking about > "sideways" relationships" ? instead of > "vertical" > ones? > > I remember that there used to be a parlor game where kids sat in a circle > and one would whisper a "fact" to the one on his right and the "fact" would

IMHO, this makes no sense. You HAVE to be related, genetically to your GGGGrandfather. And there is mitrochondrial DNA, which transfers, intact, via the female line, which you could trace back to the goo we crawled out of (if they'd kept records back then). There are DNA Genealogy mailing lists. I am not subbed to one anymore, but perhaps you should sub to one and ask this question. I have no doubt that one of the experts on those lists can explain exactly how this works to you and who will know what your relative was trying to say. And if you figure out what he meant, let me know. ;-) :-) acp --------- glswings wrote: >Did you ask him to explain his theory to you? >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Scalawag1867@aol.com> >To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:03 AM >Subject: [ARKANSAS] Related to our ancestors????????????? > > > > >>I help please. >> >>I talked at length this morning with my nephew who is with the FBI. >> >>He tells me that after three generations we are no longer related to our >>ancestors. >> >>we are linked by names but not by blood. >> >>He says no one is related to one another after third cousins. >> >>My line/ancestors: >> >>James Waldrop, Sr. >>Benjamin Waldrop >>Green Berry Waldrop 1794-1854 >>Joseph Ryan Waldrop 1827-1870 >>James Harry Waldrop 190601962 >>Me. >> >>So what he is saying I am only related to Green Berry Waldrop,Benjamin >>Waldrop his papa is not related to me, I am just in his name only line. >>We are only researching our names and not who wer are related to. >> >>So if James Waldrop, Sr. and Ann hadn't married in the 1700s, would I be >>here?? Does it not take one generation to make another. >> >>He said this was taught in the FBI and DNA. >> >>Help me please.....I am not educated in this and he is. >> >>Please tell me he is wrong. >> >>Sandra >>maiden Waldrop >>Georgia >> >> >>==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== >>To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to >>ARKANSAS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >>ARKANSAS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > > >==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== >Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > -- :-) acp ******************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * acpearce@io.com * www.jump.net/~collene * ********************************************************************

B. J. I'll ask him. Sandra

Why would it even matter what he thinks? Every one has an opinion. This is just his. It's obvious to everyone else that he's wrong. Just let it go. bj Scalawag1867@aol.com wrote:Glswings, No, he was giving his opinion on what he had studied, just as you and I are giving our opinions. He might have read and studied this outside of FBI Courses. When I gather more information I will approach him again on this subject. First I need to know what I am talking about. This is one educated man. I know he is wrong, (My opinion), but I will have to have more knowledg to whole a conversation with him. This is why I have contacked the lists for help. He is 47 years old, he is not a youngester out of College and wanting to tell us what he knows. Prove him worng, but lets not attack him. Take Care. Sandra ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to ARKANSAS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ARKANSAS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now

Glswings, No, he was giving his opinion on what he had studied, just as you and I are giving our opinions. He might have read and studied this outside of FBI Courses. When I gather more information I will approach him again on this subject. First I need to know what I am talking about. This is one educated man. I know he is wrong, (My opinion), but I will have to have more knowledg to whole a conversation with him. This is why I have contacked the lists for help. He is 47 years old, he is not a youngester out of College and wanting to tell us what he knows. Prove him worng, but lets not attack him. Take Care. Sandra