You can access Ancestry thru lots of public library computers in many places in the country now. Ours has a rule of an hour per day and only on the library computers, but that is quite good for a free service. ron -------Original Message------- From: Scalawag1867@aol.com Sent: 06/16/03 08:40 AM To: ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARKANSAS] Ancestery.com > > Thanks Emma, I do believe I have tried that thru the last several months. But I will certainly go back and try again. I checked my account and they just drafted June's payment. Thanks for your help. Sandra ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== We have archives!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thought some subscribers might like to read the following statement. Both author and source are noted. Date omitted due to oversight of this writer. Fran powell@closecall.com ________________________________________________________________ MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Found Rootsweb Review Volume 4 # 28 --- Combining the board hierarchies from GenConnect and FamilyHistory.com has progressed quite a bit since launch and is nearing completion. We realize this part of the launch has caused some problems, so thanks for bearing with us as we get one structure for all those millions of messages! Regarding the ownership of messages posted on the boards: RootsWeb states in its Acceptable Use Policy: "When you post messages to mailing lists, message boards, and other facilities at RootsWeb, those posts remain your property under copyright law." The Terms & Conditions at Ancestry.com are the same on this point: "Portions of [Ancestry.com] will contain user provided content, to which you may contribute appropriate content. For this content, Ancestry is a distributor only." And again from the MyFamily.com, Inc. Internet Services Copyright Policy: "Content which has been contributed to public area of the MyFamily.com, Inc. sites by users remain the property of the submitter or the original creator and we are a licensed distributor of such content." I really hope to resolve any concerns here by stating that "if you posted it, you own it." Please feel free to read these legal documents yourselves for clarification: RootsWeb.com Acceptable Use Policy http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html Ancestry.com Terms and Conditions http://www.ancestry.com/legal/terms.htm MyFamily.com, Inc. Internet Services Copyright Policy http://www.myfamilyinc.com/about_us/copyright.htm That's it for this week. Please keep your input and comments coming so that we can continue to improve the message boards and make your research easier!

Good comments here. Thank you! Folks have been asking me questions about all this that I could not answer. I did, however, get the unique opportunity to meet the CEO of MyFamily last Friday nite. I'm putting my money on this company. If they continue as they are right now, they are going to produce great things. We users tend to be frustrated when we start fumbling in the mechanics of things.. we want results and we want them now... i think we all have much to be thankful for in cyber genealogy. i'm old enough to remember the days when we had to order (and wait for) films, etc. Much better tools out there today. Thanks again for your words. --Sheila Gibson in Utah Dixlan2@aol.com wrote:Yes, My Family and Ancestry are both owned by the same company that owns RootsWeb. I personally am thankful that they are because they are determined to be profitable in order to make RootsWeb free. RootsWeb is kept free partly by the advertisements that are on the web pages and the pop ups that they have. Thank goodness that they have been able to find some way to be able to keep our lists free and the rest of the genealogy web pages free also. One other thing. If you are worried about losing ownership of your material that you have posted on My Family.com, RootsWeb.com or Ancestry.com, you can forget the worry. It is fully protected by the United States Intellectual Property Laws. There is no way a large conglomerate company would run the risk of the law suits that would ensue if it started stealing Intellectual Property under the guise of allowing you free web space. So rest easy. It won't happen. If you still feel uneasy about it. Just erase it and go on. I imagine that the company found that My Family.com was not reaching the numbers of people they wanted to reach and has become very expensive for the rest of the companies to carry financially - without payback. Maybe they just want to change the format or something of that sort. I have no idea, but I do know that it belongs to them, and they can do with it as they please - within the legal system. We all (that have sites, or are members of sites there) have to admit that the membership is very limited and private. That was the original idea. However, my take on the whole matter is to not bite the hand that feeds me. The other companies support RootsWeb! It keeps it free! Why would I listen to some malcontent from a non-RootsWeb list - or even from a RootsWeb lister; unless it was someone in management that could give me the straight skinny on the matter. Personally, I am thankful that RootsWeb allows me to be a member of a list like this and many others without restrictions and further, it allows me free access to so much free information on its web pages that others have graciously posted there to share with others. How many on this list have been helped by someone on one of these lists? How many have torn down brick walls that had been standing for years? Just last month I found someone that answered a question that I had been trying to answer more than ten years. Okay, I rest my case. Get back to genealogy and don't gripe about something that hasn't happened, and we have been assured that it won't! So quit raising a ruckus and lets get back to genealogy - not rumours. Maryann ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== We have archives!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ~ Sheila Gibson ~ SpiritHawk ~

Yes, My Family and Ancestry are both owned by the same company that owns RootsWeb. I personally am thankful that they are because they are determined to be profitable in order to make RootsWeb free. RootsWeb is kept free partly by the advertisements that are on the web pages and the pop ups that they have. Thank goodness that they have been able to find some way to be able to keep our lists free and the rest of the genealogy web pages free also. One other thing. If you are worried about losing ownership of your material that you have posted on My Family.com, RootsWeb.com or Ancestry.com, you can forget the worry. It is fully protected by the United States Intellectual Property Laws. There is no way a large conglomerate company would run the risk of the law suits that would ensue if it started stealing Intellectual Property under the guise of allowing you free web space. So rest easy. It won't happen. If you still feel uneasy about it. Just erase it and go on. I imagine that the company found that My Family.com was not reaching the numbers of people they wanted to reach and has become very expensive for the rest of the companies to carry financially - without payback. Maybe they just want to change the format or something of that sort. I have no idea, but I do know that it belongs to them, and they can do with it as they please - within the legal system. We all (that have sites, or are members of sites there) have to admit that the membership is very limited and private. That was the original idea. However, my take on the whole matter is to not bite the hand that feeds me. The other companies support RootsWeb! It keeps it free! Why would I listen to some malcontent from a non-RootsWeb list - or even from a RootsWeb lister; unless it was someone in management that could give me the straight skinny on the matter. Personally, I am thankful that RootsWeb allows me to be a member of a list like this and many others without restrictions and further, it allows me free access to so much free information on its web pages that others have graciously posted there to share with others. How many on this list have been helped by someone on one of these lists? How many have torn down brick walls that had been standing for years? Just last month I found someone that answered a question that I had been trying to answer more than ten years. Okay, I rest my case. Get back to genealogy and don't gripe about something that hasn't happened, and we have been assured that it won't! So quit raising a ruckus and lets get back to genealogy - not rumours. Maryann

I don't believe I have seen what you are referring to. Yes, Ancestry.com has added at least two new lines of info: Newspapers and UK info which are at extra cost. However, outside those two relatively new categories, I have been able to access all the previous information. Millard New ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scalawag1867@aol.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: [ARKANSAS] Ancestery.com > Dee in Arkansas, and other Lists > > I just read your email to the Arkansas List. > > I wanted to ask about Acestery.com > > I have been a member for years. I have always gotten tons of information. > > But now when I ask the same questions on others ancestors they send me > to a page where I have to subscribe an pay to receive the same answers that > was once free. > > Is this happening to anyone else? > > Thank you. > > Sandra > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > Search for your Ancestors at http://www.ArkansasFamilies.net/ ! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Travis WHITAKER SMITH (1897-ca. 1984) was a daughter of the Rev. George Robert WHITAKER (1855-1935). She was born in South Carolina, married a James Allen SMITH in 1918 and, sometime after that, moved to Arkansas witlh him. I have information that they had four sons, all born in the 1920s. I am one of her great-nieces and would like to get in touch with this family to exchange information. I am a granddaughter of Travis' brother, L.R. Whitaker (1899-1962). I live in Easley, South Carolina. I am not listed in the telephone book. Elizabeth Whitaker whitaker@innova.net

Dee in Arkansas, and other Lists I just read your email to the Arkansas List. I wanted to ask about Acestery.com I have been a member for years. I have always gotten tons of information. But now when I ask the same questions on others ancestors they send me to a page where I have to subscribe an pay to receive the same answers that was once free. Is this happening to anyone else? Thank you. Sandra

Beverly, I also have a site there, but I paid $100.00 for mine last year and will definitley be deleteing everything on that site They advertise in your face and I can get the same size web space anywhere, FREE with ads, so to heck with them. Thanks for posting this info. It reminded me to go there and delete.. Dee, also in Arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Edds" <beverly_edds@hotmail.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: [ARKANSAS] HELP! > I'm sorry, I know this may be offtopic (though it does relate directly to > both genealogy and our research), but this came to me on another list, and I > know it's probably old news, but what REALLY has me concerned here is the > part at the bottom from the MyFamily.com website. Can anyone help explain > this, please? I have information there and can't afford the price, does that > mean my pictures and stuff I have posted there will belong to them? > BVE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >Important Notice About Your MyFamily.com Website > > >All free websites must be upgraded to paid websites before June 23. > > <SNIP> > > >Still have questions? > > >Does every member of a family website need to pay? > >No. Only one person needs to pay for the website in order for all other > >website members >to enjoy the same benefits. > > >What will happen if my website is not paid for before June 23? > >After June 23, the content on your unpaid websites will become > >inaccessible. You will >still be able to log on to MyFamily.com and locate > >your website, but you will not be >able to view photos, news items or other > >content until the website is upgraded. > > >If this is the case, then what does this mean that is posted at their > >"Terms and Conditions" site? > > <SNIP> > > >User Provided Content > > >Portions of the Service will contain user provided content, to which >you > >may contribute appropriate content. For this content, >MyFamily.com, Inc. > >is a distributor only. By submitting content to >MyFamily.com, you grant > >MyFamily.com, Inc., the corporate host of the >Service, a limited license > >to use, host, distribute and allow hosting >and distribution on co-branded > >Services of the content. You should >submit only content which belongs to > >you and will not violate the >property or other rights of other people or > >organizations. > <END MYFAMILY.COM> > > >And from a GenWeb list forward > > <SNIP> > >If you carefully read what I posted you will see that I was speaking >about > >the current relationship between USGenWeb and RootsWeb (that is >NOW owned > >by the same company that owns MyFamily and Ancestry.com) in >general. > > >If you look at their business trends -- from free to paid, it is not > > >entirely impossible to predict that Rootsweb COULD go to a paid >service. > > This is conjecture, but not a pipe dream. > > >DO you have insider knowledge, that would assure us that this would never > >happen? I'm not trying >to create panic -- it hasn't happened. My > >marketing crystal ball tells me it could happen, and it would >be nice if > >there could be some proactive work to prevent it. > > <END> > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ARKANSAS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ARKANSAS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Is there anyone who has this Waldrop as an ancestor? (Listed below my paragraph.) My gr grandpapa Joseph Ryan Waldrop of Washington County,Alabama was ambushed, shot and killed Aug. 16, 1870. He was in Arkansas at one time married to Sara Catherine Alexander in the early 1850s. Does anyone know what the R stands for in this Joseph R. Waldrop? There was a J. R. Waldrop that moved to Arkansas from Lauren, South Carolina with a wife Isabella Boyd Waldrop. WALDROP, JOSEPH R. State: AR Year: 1870 County: Clark County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule Township: Caddo Township. Page: 222 Database: AR 1870 Federal Census Index Thanks for any help. Sandra

Hello Fellow Researchers: I had the unique opportunity to attend the Utah Valley Chapter, UGA (Utah Genealogical Association) meeting of 13 Jun that was hosted by Tom Stockham, President and CEO of MyFamily.com, Inc. Although I went in fully armed with questions & complaints I had gathered in from �the field�, I soon found myself wanting to encourage rather than attack. You may have heard the expression of trying to take a drink from a fire hydrant � that about describes my feelings about MyFamily attempting to take on the Goliath appetite of the genealogical world. The company that exists today is young, aggressive & healthy. Beyond that, they love what they do (computers and genealogy) and are energetically committed. I was impressed. It is appropriate that we accept that �growing pains� are part of the acquisition & merger processes. MyFamily.com owns Ancestry.com, Rootsweb.com plus have recently merged with Genealogy.com. Look for great things; but realize also that the company (I don�t ! know this) probably relies on resources stemming from subscriptions. Not too involved in how this will all shake loose but I am expecting it will be good. ~ Sheila Gibson ~ SpiritHawk ~

I'm sorry, I know this may be offtopic (though it does relate directly to both genealogy and our research), but this came to me on another list, and I know it's probably old news, but what REALLY has me concerned here is the part at the bottom from the MyFamily.com website. Can anyone help explain this, please? I have information there and can't afford the price, does that mean my pictures and stuff I have posted there will belong to them? BVE ----- Original Message ----- >Important Notice About Your MyFamily.com Website >All free websites must be upgraded to paid websites before June 23. <SNIP> >Still have questions? >Does every member of a family website need to pay? >No. Only one person needs to pay for the website in order for all other >website members >to enjoy the same benefits. >What will happen if my website is not paid for before June 23? >After June 23, the content on your unpaid websites will become >inaccessible. You will >still be able to log on to MyFamily.com and locate >your website, but you will not be >able to view photos, news items or other >content until the website is upgraded. >If this is the case, then what does this mean that is posted at their >"Terms and Conditions" site? <SNIP> >User Provided Content >Portions of the Service will contain user provided content, to which >you >may contribute appropriate content. For this content, >MyFamily.com, Inc. >is a distributor only. By submitting content to >MyFamily.com, you grant >MyFamily.com, Inc., the corporate host of the >Service, a limited license >to use, host, distribute and allow hosting >and distribution on co-branded >Services of the content. You should >submit only content which belongs to >you and will not violate the >property or other rights of other people or >organizations. <END MYFAMILY.COM> >And from a GenWeb list forward <SNIP> >If you carefully read what I posted you will see that I was speaking >about >the current relationship between USGenWeb and RootsWeb (that is >NOW owned >by the same company that owns MyFamily and Ancestry.com) in >general. >If you look at their business trends -- from free to paid, it is not > >entirely impossible to predict that Rootsweb COULD go to a paid >service. > This is conjecture, but not a pipe dream. >DO you have insider knowledge, that would assure us that this would never >happen? I'm not trying >to create panic -- it hasn't happened. My >marketing crystal ball tells me it could happen, and it would >be nice if >there could be some proactive work to prevent it. <END> _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Looks like it unless you go in before the closing date and delete everything rather than leave it to their discretion. my two cents. donna in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Edds" <beverly_edds@hotmail.com> To: <ARKANSAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: [ARKANSAS] HELP! I'm sorry, I know this may be offtopic (though it does relate directly to both genealogy and our research), but this came to me on another list, and I know it's probably old news, but what REALLY has me concerned here is the part at the bottom from the MyFamily.com website. Can anyone help explain this, please? I have information there and can't afford the price, does that mean my pictures and stuff I have posted there will belong to them? BVE ----- Original Message ----- >Important Notice About Your MyFamily.com Website >All free websites must be upgraded to paid websites before June 23. <SNIP> >Still have questions? >Does every member of a family website need to pay? >No. Only one person needs to pay for the website in order for all other >website members >to enjoy the same benefits. >What will happen if my website is not paid for before June 23? >After June 23, the content on your unpaid websites will become >inaccessible. You will >still be able to log on to MyFamily.com and locate >your website, but you will not be >able to view photos, news items or other >content until the website is upgraded. >If this is the case, then what does this mean that is posted at their >"Terms and Conditions" site? <SNIP> >User Provided Content >Portions of the Service will contain user provided content, to which >you >may contribute appropriate content. For this content, >MyFamily.com, Inc. >is a distributor only. By submitting content to >MyFamily.com, you grant >MyFamily.com, Inc., the corporate host of the >Service, a limited license >to use, host, distribute and allow hosting >and distribution on co-branded >Services of the content. You should >submit only content which belongs to >you and will not violate the >property or other rights of other people or >organizations. <END MYFAMILY.COM> >And from a GenWeb list forward <SNIP> >If you carefully read what I posted you will see that I was speaking >about >the current relationship between USGenWeb and RootsWeb (that is >NOW owned >by the same company that owns MyFamily and Ancestry.com) in >general. >If you look at their business trends -- from free to paid, it is not > >entirely impossible to predict that Rootsweb COULD go to a paid >service. > This is conjecture, but not a pipe dream. >DO you have insider knowledge, that would assure us that this would never >happen? I'm not trying >to create panic -- it hasn't happened. My >marketing crystal ball tells me it could happen, and it would >be nice if >there could be some proactive work to prevent it. <END> _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ==== ARKANSAS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to ARKANSAS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ARKANSAS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My most humble apologies to those who receive this more than once! :o) Take Care, Diana philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ArkansasFamilies: http://www.arkansasfamilies.net/ RootsWeb.com: 2003-06-11 The entire RootsWeb.com website will be down for several hours Thursday morning, while our technical staff completes routine maintenance < from approximately 1-4 a.m. (Mountain). We apologize for the inconvenience, and encourage you to use our sister sites during this down time.

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Thank all of you for you wonderful and helpful response to my question about the Catamount. It appears they are MUCH bigger than a bob cat and I was way off! Since everyone is enjoying the news articles so well I thought I'd share another one: May 11, 1904 CAUGHT A BAD INJUN >From Thursday’s Daily Yesterday afternoon Constable Will Smith captured Sandford McKinney, a Cherokee Indian, on the Comstock Farm near Uniontown and turned him over to Deputy United States Marshal T B Johnson, who took him to Vinita, Indian Territory, to answer to the charge of murder. Besides being wanted for murder, McKinney is wanted at South McAlester, Muskogee, Poteau, Fort Smith and Van Buren for forgery- obtaining goods under false pretense. He is also wanted at Muskogee for bigamy, as he is known to have three wives, one of whom is said to be living in Van Buren. Mckinney, what at least a half blood Cherokee, is one of the cleverest that ever operated in the Indian Territory or this part of Arkansas. He had a number of check books from different banks but never drew a check on a bank in the town in which he operated. His plan was to buy something and give a check for more than the amount of his purchase, this getting the goods and a few additional dollars. The fact that the Indian is looked upon as being proverbially honest and too unsophisticated in ways that are dark made his work easy. Constable Smith found the half-breed at work in a cornfield for Mr. Comstock. With his pistol concealed and carrying a fishing pole in his hand, Mr. Smith approached McKinney, who looked upon him unsuspiciously. The officer engaged one of the Comstock boys in conversation until McKinney resumed his work when Will dropped his pole, drew his gun and made the Indian throw up his hands, and then called officer Johnson from his hiding place who quickly handcuffed McKinney without further trouble. Fran Alverson Warren e-mail: alverson@valuelinx.net 479-369-2703 http://www.crawfordcountyarkansas.net/

Does anyone know what a catamount would be? I suspect it might be a bob cat or something similar. April 27, 1904 Van Buren Argus Crawford County, Arkansas CATAMOUNT KILLED BY GIRLS Misses Ella Dyer and Kate Strong, aged 15 and 18, living near Chester, are entitled to be classed among the bravest of Arkansas’ brave daughters. Thursday morning a large catamount was discovered in the yard of Mr. Dyer, one and a half miles north of Chester, by the above named young ladies, who chased it away and followed it up into a narrow canyon, where the beast showed a fight. The young ladies were plucky and particularly anxious to capture the animal, but had no firearms and had to resort to other means. They secured some matches and a bundle of rags. The catamount had taken refuge in a large crevice in a ledge of rock, growling at every move made by the young ladies. Tieing the rags to a long pole they applied a match and thrust the burning mass into the mouth of the narrow opening, the smoke and flames quickly killing the animal. The young ladies returned to Chester with the catamount and were highly complimented and praised for their bravery. Fran Alverson Warren e-mail: alverson@valuelinx.net 479-369-2703 http://www.crawfordcountyarkansas.net/

April 27, 1904 STOLE MARCH ON FRIENDS The Van Buren friends of Fred Roberts and Miss Mabel Cole were somewhat surprised yesterday when it was learned through a telegram from the young lady sent to her mother from Kansas City that they were married. Inquiries revealed the fact that the young people went to Fort Smith April 16th, procured a license and were quietly married and returned to Van Buren without telling their friends of their marriage. The young lady returned to her home and began planning for her departure, taking her brother’s suitcase and packing what articles of wearing apparel she would need in it. On Monday afternoon Fred called at the home of the young lady and told Mrs. Cole that her son, Walter, had loaned him his suitcase and that he had called for it. Mrs. Cole sent her daughter to Walter’s room for the case and when she returned and handed it to Mr. Roberts she handled it as if it was perfectly empty and Fred took it and walked away laughing. Monday night the young man called to take Miss Mabel to the opera house, but instead they left on the slicker for Fort Smith and there took a Kansas City Southern Train for Kansas City. Mrs. Cole, when they failed to return from the opera house, surmised that they had eloped and waited patiently for the message that finally came. Fran Alverson Warren e-mail: alverson@valuelinx.net 479-369-2703 http://www.crawfordcountyarkansas.net/

Hello Everyone; We have updated a page on our web site titled BEWARE OF THE SOURCE HOAX This is being done every day and all of you may not be aware of the games being played by some on the internet. The URL for this page is; http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/fraud/hoax.htm All of our web pages are free to everyone. The very best to you and yours. Harold Oliver Director America's First Families

Can SKS do a death lookup for Jan. 1923 for Edwin B. Smith,Jefferson County, Pine Bluff., wife Annie son Alfred. I need to know if it could give me burial location.

If someone has a copy "Jackson County Death Records--1866-1882",would you please do a lookup for Jesse P. Bristow. According to his C.W file,he died in Jackson Co.,10 Dec 1875. His name has been spelled as "Jesse E.",and, his last name may be spelled as "Bristo,Brister,Bristol,Bristowe". I have most of the information on him except his burial location. His wife's name was,Rebecca. Thank you so much for any help you can give me, Glenna km5tq@gbronline.com myfamilypride@yahoo.com