Marsha, thank you for all of this information.  Very interesting and I forwarded to Tereva. I suspect you worked in medical field.  One of my uncles got lockjaw when he was about 70 -- he survived.  I remember him being treated. I have three nieces ( who are sisters) and all three are nurses.  I loved writing, then was good with shorthand and typing.  My first higher education was in journalism, which I absolutely loved.  I really wanted to be a court reporter but in those years the nearest schooling was in Kansas City.  Circumstances in my family prohibited them supporting me to go to college.  We had suffered great income loss when I was about 13 and my father was seriously injured in a tractor accident.  He had cataract surgery on both eyes during the 40s and lost his peripheral vision (sight only replaced then by thick glasses) and when he turned the tractor at end of row, he misjudged and went tumbling down creek bank.  This was in March before spring rains and water low.  He was about half mile from house but my mother and neighbor were outside and heard him.  She thought something was in chicken house and investigated. They heard him again and she went further to where she would be able to see him on tractor.  Not seeing him, she asked neighbor to go back and call for help.  She did and soon after my mother found him, an ambulance arrived and removed him (accompanied by my mother) to hospital in Broken Arrow, where he stayed for some time.  I was on school bus and we met ambulance about half mile away.  An uncommon sight, but quite a shock when our neighbor told me when I got off bus.  His developed pneumonia.  Anyway, I couldn't speak for about two weeks. I was last one left at home -- only one to milk cows and do chores.  One of Daddy's brothers who lived and worked in Tulsa came often and helped me with planting, etc.  Husband of one of my FINLEY cousins -- who went to his reward as a young man -- helped some.  Until this time we had grain, hay fields, and "Market" garden and farmed 160 acres.  We sold 80 acres at a "sacrifice" and it took some years for his convalescence.  Fortunately, I won scholarship to "Oklahoma Women's College" at Chickasha where I studied journalism.  But worked mostly in law -- one of my first jobs was in legal department at Seismograph Service.  Then, I married attorney and worked in probate at county courthouse, which opened some doors along the way, so did legal and oil and gas work. That's a good part of my life history,  Looking back, it was an interesting life.  One of the best experiences I had was working for Charles A. KOTHE, who in his 80s when he testified in the Clarence THOMAS hearings.  He was the finest gentleman and surely most brilliant I ever knew.  He was labor law attorney for management and practiced in every U.S. labor court as well as its protectorates.  He traveled a good deal of the time and we sometimes worked through the night and weekends.  When he left the firm and I went to work for an oil and gas man, but still worked for him at his home.  It was during this time he (w/ financial help of O. W. COBURN, father of U.S. senator who is doctor) that he began law school at Oral Roberts University.  ORU later lost accreditation for law school.    He had a wonderful personality.  Sometimes at two or three in the morning, I would take my shorthand notes and say, "Mr. Kothe, I don't think we have a complete sentence here.  He reacted with delight that I called it to his attention.  I would read my notes and get it right.  Sometimes he worked in his "bunny" (footed) pajamas.  Sometimes his wife was out-of-town.  Sometimes on weekends we went there to work. Yes, I saw Oral and his mother.  The ROBERTS lived two or three miles south of us, towards Bixby, and Mrs. Evelyn ROBERTS came to our house to buy vegetables.  Their livestock lived better than most people.  Their farm later became Juniper Hills Nursery.  My brother, first veterinarian in Oklahoma to enter strictly equine practice, lived in Okmulgee until about 1960.  Oral's large herd was one he took care of, until he was traveling so much to Tulsa he relocated.  People complained of Oral's vast holdings and it forced him to reduce them. The Kothes were Presbyterian and one son was Presbyterian minister in Las Vegas -- typed his sermons from cassettes.  Mr. Kothe and my first husband (TRUESDELL) attended McCormick Seminary in Chicago, but at different times.  (I somehow managed to marry two Presbyterians, was always lukewarm member of CofC.)  It was during those years that Mr. Kothe appeared as actor in a black and white movie, which he sometimes viewed during his travels. It was his wife Janet who first urged me to quit my job and work for him at ORU, pointing out my children could attend there tuition-free.  Mrs, Kothe said he was "comfortable" working with me.    If I had taken their offer, I too would have known Anita HILL and Clarence THOMAS. Mr. Kothe maintained notebooks of "Orchid Letters" received from churches, companies, etc. where he spoke as a motivational speaker.  In his later years, I would call from time to time, and ask if he remembered me, and he would say, "I'm one of your greatest fans."  Always gave me a "warm fuzzy."  He had such a great mind and so knowledgeable in labor law, I'd think his mind should somehow be saved for posterity.  His vocabulary was massive and he would often send me to his his huge dictionary kept on a stand.  When he died, I still lived in Tulsa and attended his funeral.  He is truly one of the most "unforgettable" characters I was privileged to know. Peggy ________________________________ From: Marsha Boles <marshab52@yahoo.com> To: arizard@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 8:38:27 PM Subject: [ARIZARD] Off subject - whooping cough & vaccines Whooping cough has been in the news lately. California seems to be hit hardest, but not an epidemic. Older adults don't know they have it and before they go to the doctor have shared it to other adults who have missed some vaccinations too. We didn't get all the vaccines in our early childhood shots that are available today and mistakenly, we think all our adult children did because it has been given for decades now. Not necessarily true! Or, they didn't keep up with booster shots. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/tetanus/default.htm Several types of vaccine: DTaP, Tdap, DT, TT, and Td (TT only covers tetanus; does NOT cover whooping cough.) Diphtheria - severe respiratory or skin infection; resp has 5-10% mortality rate & does heart damage Tetanus - lock jaw, 10% mortality rate (of the 4 I've seen, 3 died, lone survivor was a strapping 18 yo farm boy in great physical condition) Pertussis - Whooping cough Upper-case letters in these abbreviations denote full-strength doses of diphtheria (D) and tetanus (T) toxoids and pertussis (P) vaccine. Lower-case “d” and “p” denote reduced doses of diphtheria and pertussis used in the adolescent/adult-formulations. The “a” in DTaP and Tdap stands for “acellular,” meaning that the pertussis component contains only a part of the pertussis organism.] CDC is recommending 18-64 yo get one time dose of Tdap, but questionable if over 65 yo should get it (should probably get Td). Children get a series of TDaP and TD shots. * * * ME ON SOAP BOX * * * EVERYONE needs a some kind of tetanus shot every 10 years. Folks that deal with dirty sharp metal things and accident prone (use lots of band-aids) - need more often. JUST SAYING: (Tdap, DT, or Td) get a shot of one of these at you next trip to the doctor. If you can't remember when you had your last shot; you are over due. Funny things is NOT ALL doctors keep them in their office because they expire- call ahead or be thrifty and go to Health Department. Getting off soap box - Marsha (get well Peggy and folks) --- On Mon, 9/20/10, PEGGY TRUESDELL <truesdellp@att.net> wrote  . . . . My daughter (b. 1962) had whooping cough, and I took a Z-pack.  My only symptoms was the medicine made me sleep a lot.  My daughter was miserable coughing night and day, so when she went to doctor, they confirmed by a blood test.  Some of my friends in Oklahoma say they have been reading about w.c. in newspapers.  Alexis (11 on Oct 1) had no symptoms but pediatrician prescribed medicine and recommended she stay home several days. . . .       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's for sharing more about yourself and family. Forgive me, but (not gonna say it behind your back) you sound like one tough ole bird. If it doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. You Knew Oral Roberts! I grew up with Oral Roberts on tv - seems like he came on Sunday morning after "The Rhoades Show".  Mom is distant cousin of those Rhoades and was always on while we were getting ready for church. Oral Roberts was truly unique.and very charismatic! As a kid didn't know what to make of him - didn't fit the pattern of any preacher I knew. Has been interesting to follow ORU from inception to present. Thanks Peggy . . . . Marsha --- On Tue, 9/21/10, PEGGY TRUESDELL <truesdellp@att.net> wrote:                            Yes, I saw Oral and his mother.  The ROBERTS lived two or three miles south of us, towards Bixby, and Mrs. Evelyn ROBERTS came to our house to buy vegetables.  Their livestock lived better than most people.  Their farm later became Juniper Hills Nursery.  My brother, first veterinarian in Oklahoma to enter strictly equine practice, lived in Okmulgee until about 1960.  Oral's large herd was one he took care of, until he was traveling so much to Tulsa he relocated.  People complained of Oral's vast holdings and it forced him to reduce them.