Thank you Joy. The names don't sound familiar, but will try to check it out. Betty Mc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy DeSpain" <joy2az@yahoo.com> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: [ARIZARD] Betty Mc... > > > I indexed some Mc Collums this morning....Andrew, Clara, Odell, Letha, and > Viloet from Franklin Co Township of Black Oak. I am not sure how long it > takes > to get on line. It is from the Fed 1930 census. Just thought that you > would like > to know. > Joy > > > ________________________________ > From: Wilma Norton <wilma.norton@cox.net> > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 8:05:59 AM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Younger > > I have no idea. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gen > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:09 AM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Younger > > > I have a question on the name Kitt, we had several 'Kits' in mom's line, > used > as a nickname for Christopher. Could this be the same for this Kitt? > gen > > --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Wilma Norton <wilma.norton@cox.net> wrote: > > > From: Wilma Norton <wilma.norton@cox.net> > > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Younger > > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 4:21 PM > > Don, all I can say is that all the > > genealogists I'm in contact with, say there is no proof that > > Elizabeth was surnamed Lee. That's not to say it can't > > be true, most everyone does give her name as Lee or ?Lee > > (meaning unproven). Cole in his biography says she was > > the daughter of "Lighthorse Harry Lee", but I've heard > > several Lee researchers deny that. I just don't know > > for sure, as far as I am aware there has not been a marriage > > license or bond found. > > > > Again, according to Cole's autobiography, "The story of > > Cole Younger" by Himself - Oak Hills Publishing, 818 N. > > Forest Avenue, Springfield, MO 65802. He > > emphatically denies ever having married Belle Shirley. > > He states he first met her when she was 14 years old, the > > daughter of John Shirley. The next time he met her was > > 4 years later and she was the wife of his comrade, Jim Reed, > > and he met her at the home of Jim's mother. "That was > > about 3 months before the birth of her daughter, > > Pearl". She later married Sam Starr. A few years > > later, he again met her and was warned that she wanted him, > > but he made sure to avoid her. According to him, he > > never married anyone. > > > > Emily Younger did marry Kitt Rose Feb 20, 1869 in Jackson > > Co. MO but I have nothing in my file to connect him to his > > parents. You might search the 1850 and 1860 census for > > Kitt P Rose, perhaps you would find him with parents. > > I have him born Jan 1840 so he should be with his parents in > > 1850 for sure, and possibly 1860. I have his birth > > state as Kentucky. > > > > The following from his autobiography: > > "One day Belle Reed told me of her troubles, and that night > > "Aunt Suse" our family servant, warned me "Belle's sure in > > love with you, Cap'n Cole." she explained. "You better > > be careful." What that hint I thereafter evaded the > > wife of my former comrade in arms. Reed was killed a > > few years later after the robbery of the stage near San > > Antonia and Belle married again, this time to Tom or Sam > > Starr. Later she came to Missouri and traveled under > > the name of Younger, boasted of an intimate acquaintance > > with me, served time in state prison, and at this time > > declared that she was my wife, and that the girl Pearl was > > our child. Her story was a fabrication, inspired > > undoubtedly by the notoriety it would give her through the > > Cherokee nation where the name of Younger was widely known > > whether fortunately or unfortunately" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Don Ott > > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > > > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:09 PM > > Subject: [ARIZARD] Younger > > > > > > Wilma, > > You indicated that the wife of Joshua Logan Younger > > who was > > Elizabeth Virginia Lee b. 27 Feb 1755, Prince > > William, VA, d. 15 Sep > > 1787 KY. had not been connected to the Lee Family. I > > thought she was > > the daughter of Henry Lee II, b. ca 1730 Lee Hall, > > Westmoreland, VA, > > d. 15 Aug 1787 Leesylvania Plantation, Prince > > William, VA. and Lucy > > Grymes b. 26 Apr 1734 Morattico, Richmond, VA. c. > > 1792. Henry Lee II, > > is well documented as a Lieutenant Colonel, Judge > > and Senator. That > > line goes back to the immigrant from England Richard > > Henry Lee and > > wife Anna Owen. I know several researchers > > tried to put her in other > > families but I though this was fairly well > > documented. I have not > > researched it in detail. > > I wondered if you know if Thomas Coleman Younger b. > > 15 Jan 1844 > > Lee's Summit, Jackson, MO. married Myra Maebelle > > Shirley. She was > > known as "Belle Starr" I found three other marriages > > for Belle but I > > never found one where she married Thomas > > Coleman Younger. I have > > read about them living together and being partners > > in crimes. > > Emily Jane Younger b. 1852, Lee's Summitt, Jackson, > > MO. sister of > > Thomas Coleman Younger, married a Kitt Porter Rose > > b. 4 Jan 1840 KY. > > I have not been able to tie him to my wife's Rose > > line. Do you know > > his parents names. I see that a Lewis Rose b. 1821 > > KY is living with > > him in 1870 Census, wonder if that is his father. > > Don > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3262 - Release Date: 11/17/10 > ----- No virus found in this message. 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