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    1. Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB Montgomery Family
    2. June Ramsey
    3. Jim and Judy so glad your son is home. Sorry to hear he has to go back. May God take good care of him, keep him safe from harm, and bring him home next May. Won't that be something to look forward to.? Love Couz Junebug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim and Judy MONTGOMERY" <pabst04@comcast.net> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB Montgomery Family > He Betty and all > Watch me muddy the water. > What one of the Montgomery's are ya talking about? The 1st ones built a log cabin just down the hill to the north of the Humphries/Montgomery Cemetery in Fulton County Arkansas. It was still there the last time we were home. > G.T Humphries was the father of Salem's own Larry Humphries. Larry now or did own the old Montgomery cabin. > > Below is a note Judy put in our tree back in 1999 > > When Jim and I were in Fulton County October 1999, we went to the Humphries Cemetery to look for his ancestor's graves. We found James, (Jim's 3rd great grandfather) his wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth Hannah along with Samuel, (2nd great-grandfather) his wives, Mary and Sarah and his great grandmother Sophronia Davenport ( Wiseman ) Montgomery. While we were there a gentleman named G.T. Humphries approached us. He told us that his grandmother had bought part of the Montgomery land and that he was born in the log cabin where James built, lived and died of smallpox. The best thing is that it is still there! It had been added to during the years, but hasn't been lived in for quite awhile. You can see the logs where the later wall coverings had come away, and we were able to go up a narrow stairway to stand on the second floor. It is very solid still, and it made me teary-eyed to think that his ancestors lived, loved, laughed, worked and died on the land where we now stoo! > d. > JUDIE > > Now my daddy Othy Flavil, a Alta 2 brothers Archie lloyd and Paul Dean (Joe) was born in Morriston > > Off Subject > Some good news our boy Clifford Stacy got in last night from Afghanistan for some needed R and R. Bad thing he is on his way back the 5th of December 2010 for his 3rd time in that area. Hope to have him back home for good by May 2010. > Be glad when all the kids are home > > JIM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty BB" <b-view@centurytel.net> > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:10:06 PM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB > > Settled on North side of the Strawberry, and below the fork of Strawberry; and some 8 to 10 miles below where Properity now is. > > Marsha, > If I'm reading this right the Mtgomery family settle on the east side of Strawberry River just below the fork (Little Strawberry River) and this would be just northeast of your Aunt Ruth's or down the river two or three miles from Wiseman. If you look on a AR map you will see that Wheeling is almost due north of Wiseman and I guess, as the crow flies, about 10 miles. Wheeling is 4 miles south of Salem on Hwy 9. This would be the place for the Prosperity Church. > The New Hope would be about a half mile east on Hwy 289 and then north about a 1/4 mile off the 4 way stop, where Hwy 354 joins and comes to Wiseman . > There is a little white house about a block west of the Horseshoe Bend Dog Kennel and about 1/4 mile east of the 4 way stop and you can see a road that goes behind the house and past a barn and on north and that is where Rosella has built her new house. I think that is where Myrlene said the New Hope Church was located. It was before my time so you know that was a long time ago. :) > > I have had time to read and study all the information you and Bile have put on but this is what I'm understanding so far. > > Have I muddy the waters even more? > > Betty BB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marsha Boles" <marshab52@yahoo.com> > To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB > > > > Okay, I am getting confused now. > > Where was Prosperity ARPC located? > > Where was New Hope ARPC located? > > When I was learning to drive (maybe as early as 10yo around 1960), my Aunt Lois Boles Moser and I had many little adventures. She let me drive the tractor from her house to Humphries Cem. with her propped on the fender of the tractor. We had to go through Day, AR and the road from Day to the cemetery was always horrible because water ran across the road in many places (little tributaries of Strawberry River/Creek) and the tractor would cross anything. Even back then, I didn't see anything that looked like a church, she didn't mention a church. Of course by then it would have been a residence and the development of Horseshoe Bend had not altered the old roads. Still, I figure we were less than a mile from the church (Prosperity ? ) - as the crow flies! > > Humphries Cem.Fulton Co., AR - latitude: 36.25780, longitude: -91.73720 > > Wheeling, Fulton Co., AR - latitude 36.32 and longitude -91.863 > > This Wheeling is much closer to Salem, Fulton Co., AR than to Day, Izard Co.,AR. > > Wheeling would be between Oxford and Salem - right? > > So has Wheeling AR moved ? ? ? > > Both churches would have been a little south and east of current Wheeling - right? > > Marsha > > --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Betty BB <b-view@centurytel.net> wrote: > > Mrylene, > > I thought that was the church that you said was out behind where the Todd's > > live. > > I think thier daugther Rosella Todd Booth is the one that build the new > > house there. > > That area would have been in Fulton Co between 1842 and 1874. The Fulton > > county line > > came south to Franklin and about a mile north of Violet Hill during that > > period. > > I guess I didn't know that Opal was a Gault, learn something new all the > > time. > > Thanks, > > Betty BB > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Myrlene Hastings" <mdhastings@centurytel.net> > > To: <ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:09 PM > > Subject: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB > > > > > >> Betty, the way I understand it, the first church organized was at > >> Wheeling, then another one was the New Hope church that was between Day > >> and Wiseman. If you read the first page on the church records that either > >> Marsha or Billie Welsh posted it mentions New Hope church. That was in > >> Fulton I think at that time because some of the census records show Fulton > >> co. You probably don't remember the old road between Day and Wiseman, > >> the church which had been converted to a dwelling house, was off of the > >> road, maybe a quarter of a mile on a dirt road that got very muddy at > >> times. I think the road turned off there where the white house is, there > >> were lots of trees, more that now. That was the old New Hope Church, my > >> mother's uncle Will and his wife aunt Ella Gault lived there them. Opal > >> Harber, Luther Harber's wife, was their daughter. It looks like, from > >> what I can see from the road, that a new house has been built maybe close > >> to where the old one was. Myrlene > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/21/2010 01:13:01
    1. Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB Montgomery Family
    2. Jim and Judy MONTGOMERY
    3. Thanks Cuz Can't wait for the day he be home for good. Ual tell Ed we said howdy and have a good holiday Cuz Jim and Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Ramsey" <junebug@centurytel.net> To: arizard@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:13:01 PM Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB Montgomery Family Jim and Judy so glad your son is home. Sorry to hear he has to go back. May God take good care of him, keep him safe from harm, and bring him home next May. Won't that be something to look forward to.? Love Couz Junebug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim and Judy MONTGOMERY" <pabst04@comcast.net> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB Montgomery Family > He Betty and all > Watch me muddy the water. > What one of the Montgomery's are ya talking about? The 1st ones built a log cabin just down the hill to the north of the Humphries/Montgomery Cemetery in Fulton County Arkansas. It was still there the last time we were home. > G.T Humphries was the father of Salem's own Larry Humphries. Larry now or did own the old Montgomery cabin. > > Below is a note Judy put in our tree back in 1999 > > When Jim and I were in Fulton County October 1999, we went to the Humphries Cemetery to look for his ancestor's graves. We found James, (Jim's 3rd great grandfather) his wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth Hannah along with Samuel, (2nd great-grandfather) his wives, Mary and Sarah and his great grandmother Sophronia Davenport ( Wiseman ) Montgomery. While we were there a gentleman named G.T. Humphries approached us. He told us that his grandmother had bought part of the Montgomery land and that he was born in the log cabin where James built, lived and died of smallpox. The best thing is that it is still there! It had been added to during the years, but hasn't been lived in for quite awhile. You can see the logs where the later wall coverings had come away, and we were able to go up a narrow stairway to stand on the second floor. It is very solid still, and it made me teary-eyed to think that his ancestors lived, loved, laughed, worked and died on the land where we now stoo! > d. > JUDIE > > Now my daddy Othy Flavil, a Alta 2 brothers Archie lloyd and Paul Dean (Joe) was born in Morriston > > Off Subject > Some good news our boy Clifford Stacy got in last night from Afghanistan for some needed R and R. Bad thing he is on his way back the 5th of December 2010 for his 3rd time in that area. Hope to have him back home for good by May 2010. > Be glad when all the kids are home > > JIM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty BB" <b-view@centurytel.net> > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:10:06 PM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB > > Settled on North side of the Strawberry, and below the fork of Strawberry; and some 8 to 10 miles below where Properity now is. > > Marsha, > If I'm reading this right the Mtgomery family settle on the east side of Strawberry River just below the fork (Little Strawberry River) and this would be just northeast of your Aunt Ruth's or down the river two or three miles from Wiseman. If you look on a AR map you will see that Wheeling is almost due north of Wiseman and I guess, as the crow flies, about 10 miles. Wheeling is 4 miles south of Salem on Hwy 9. This would be the place for the Prosperity Church. > The New Hope would be about a half mile east on Hwy 289 and then north about a 1/4 mile off the 4 way stop, where Hwy 354 joins and comes to Wiseman . > There is a little white house about a block west of the Horseshoe Bend Dog Kennel and about 1/4 mile east of the 4 way stop and you can see a road that goes behind the house and past a barn and on north and that is where Rosella has built her new house. I think that is where Myrlene said the New Hope Church was located. It was before my time so you know that was a long time ago. :) > > I have had time to read and study all the information you and Bile have put on but this is what I'm understanding so far. > > Have I muddy the waters even more? > > Betty BB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marsha Boles" <marshab52@yahoo.com> > To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB > > > > Okay, I am getting confused now. > > Where was Prosperity ARPC located? > > Where was New Hope ARPC located? > > When I was learning to drive (maybe as early as 10yo around 1960), my Aunt Lois Boles Moser and I had many little adventures. She let me drive the tractor from her house to Humphries Cem. with her propped on the fender of the tractor. We had to go through Day, AR and the road from Day to the cemetery was always horrible because water ran across the road in many places (little tributaries of Strawberry River/Creek) and the tractor would cross anything. Even back then, I didn't see anything that looked like a church, she didn't mention a church. Of course by then it would have been a residence and the development of Horseshoe Bend had not altered the old roads. Still, I figure we were less than a mile from the church (Prosperity ? ) - as the crow flies! > > Humphries Cem.Fulton Co., AR - latitude: 36.25780, longitude: -91.73720 > > Wheeling, Fulton Co., AR - latitude 36.32 and longitude -91.863 > > This Wheeling is much closer to Salem, Fulton Co., AR than to Day, Izard Co.,AR. > > Wheeling would be between Oxford and Salem - right? > > So has Wheeling AR moved ? ? ? > > Both churches would have been a little south and east of current Wheeling - right? > > Marsha > > --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Betty BB <b-view@centurytel.net> wrote: > > Mrylene, > > I thought that was the church that you said was out behind where the Todd's > > live. > > I think thier daugther Rosella Todd Booth is the one that build the new > > house there. > > That area would have been in Fulton Co between 1842 and 1874. The Fulton > > county line > > came south to Franklin and about a mile north of Violet Hill during that > > period. > > I guess I didn't know that Opal was a Gault, learn something new all the > > time. > > Thanks, > > Betty BB > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Myrlene Hastings" <mdhastings@centurytel.net> > > To: <ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:09 PM > > Subject: [ARIZARD] Church-Betty BB > > > > > >> Betty, the way I understand it, the first church organized was at > >> Wheeling, then another one was the New Hope church that was between Day > >> and Wiseman. If you read the first page on the church records that either > >> Marsha or Billie Welsh posted it mentions New Hope church. That was in > >> Fulton I think at that time because some of the census records show Fulton > >> co. You probably don't remember the old road between Day and Wiseman, > >> the church which had been converted to a dwelling house, was off of the > >> road, maybe a quarter of a mile on a dirt road that got very muddy at > >> times. I think the road turned off there where the white house is, there > >> were lots of trees, more that now. That was the old New Hope Church, my > >> mother's uncle Will and his wife aunt Ella Gault lived there them. Opal > >> Harber, Luther Harber's wife, was their daughter. It looks like, from > >> what I can see from the road, that a new house has been built maybe close > >> to where the old one was. Myrlene > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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