You are thinking of Thomas Moffit Montgomery, b. 18 dec 1861 in Arkansas, d. 1 feb 1936 in Muskogee, Oklahoma. From: arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PEGGY TRUESDELL Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:45 PM To: arizard@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Where is New Hope (Marsha) Marsha, I've been reading all the posts on Prosperity Church -- and one just now, though I've seen MOFFIT name before, made me wonder if one of your MONTGOMERY relatives -- son of Joseph MONTGOMERY and Anna Martha MORRIS ?? -- didn't have MOFFITT as part of his name. If so, they may have named him after this person. You probably know that your ancestor Anna Martha {MORRIS} MONTGOMERY was second wife of my great-great-grandfather William Alexander RIDGWAY. I've posted before either on Izard or Baxter List the circumstances around her death. They lived in Sharp County and she was visiting her children in Izard County. He had dreamed of her death. I have picture that Max PARNELL sent me about ten years ago of her and WAR. They went to Texas to see her sick brother Riley MORRIS and the family wanted her to stay, so he returned to Arkansas and she stayed until after her brother died, then returned. A man who could do most everything from shoemaker to carpenter, they lived around Thayer, Mo. where he built roundhouses for the railroad, following it all the way to Hardy. She kept a boarding house in Mo., he said. The only "drawback" to their marriage, he said, was they both had grown children. His didn't live with them, but her youngest son is in census with them. Oh, there was a Riley MORRIS in Baxter County, according to my mother. She said he had excellent singing voice. A lady they knew well was known as "Sis" but her maiden name was MORRIS and she was wife of John AVEY. Believe this Riley was her brother. Just thought I'd call this to your attention. Peggy Peggy {KING} TRUESDELL ________________________________ From: Marsha Boles <marshab52@yahoo.com> To: arizard@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 2:47:52 PM Subject: [ARIZARD] Where is New Hope Another note from same book below. I think one of the things you have to remember is that most of these folks were riding horses or walking, especially the pastors and men. They would cut across fields, streams and woods taking a much more direct route than present day roads allow. Women didn't really go to church as much as men did. Women and children generally required a wagon. That's why I suspect so many "brush harbor" meeting were held - kinda pre-cursors to tent revivals. Men would chose a somewhat woodsy place and actually cut and lace other tree branches in the canopy to make more of a shade and shelter from the sun. These meeting were planned well in advance so farm work could get done up for a few days. They packed up the wagon and camped out a few days. That's why so often, they had preaching morning and evening. They packed in a much as possible. Probably few folks could stay for the whole meeting and often men would have to go home to check on their house and stock before they rode back the next day on horse. These folks were serious about getting their religion!Marsha Prosperity is near the center of Fulton Co., in north Arkansas. Its first members came from Tennessee and Georgia. New Hope – This church is situated near the N. E. corner of Izard Co., AR. Some of the members of Prosperity lived here, 10 miles or more from the church. Among these were the Gaults, Montgomerys, Vaughans, and others. Rev. S.P. Davis, by order of Synod of 1870, came to labor in this field. He organized New Hope, April 8, 1871, with 30 members. W.A. Gault, J. R. Vaughan and J. F. Wilson were elected elders. Mr. Davis supplied this church in1872, also. About this time they put up their first house of worship – a log structure. Rev. J. C. McDonald began his labors here Nov. 10, 1872, and was installed pastor of New Hope and Prosperity, Oct. 10, 1874. He made his home in New Hope congregation, having “homesteaded” a piece of land and built a house on it, not far from the church. He was their pastor until 1881, and stated supply much of the time untilt1888, also 1891-5. Revs. W. L. and R.E. Patterson, S. P. Davis, D. W. Reid and E. E. Pressly supplied Hew Hope and Prosperity a few months each during three years. Rev. W. S. Moffatt supplied, 1888-90. During this time the erected a near frame church, costing $500 or $600, a mile or more from where the old church stood. Rev. M. P. Ellis came to then in Augustn, 1895, and Feb. 1, 1896, was installed pastor o New Hope and Prosperity, each getting half of his time. New Hope had 43 members at the time. This has been a happy settlement, and the church as prospered notwithstanding the fact that thay have lost some prominent members by death. Among these maybe be mention Mr. W. A. Gault, who was conspicuous both in piety and zeal, and as acknowledged leader and efficient worker. They report about 70 members. They maintain a fine S.S., a L.B.S. and Y.P.C.U. --- On Thu, 12/9/10, Myrlene Hastings <mdhastings@centurytel.net> wrote: Billie, New Hope is between Day and Wiseman. I am not a good judge of distance, I would say less than 10 mi from Wiseman. I had wondered how far from Wheeling, I was looking at the road map last week, and it is not far 'as the crow flies'. I don't know if there is a road directly between the two, as far as I know there isn't. There must have been one then. I was surprised to see that New Hope was so close to the Fulton Co. line. Myrlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> The other day I ran across an old map and got to looking at it and something from the Prosperity papers about Newhope came to mind: These families settled on the North side of the Strawberry, and below the fork of Strawberry; and some 8 to 10 miles below where Properity now is." Does anyone know how far it is from Wheeling to Wiseman? There's a fork of the Strawberry and the Little Strawberry just outside of Wiseman. Would Newhope have been near Wiseman? -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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Yes - that's my fella ! ! ! Brother of my GGF - guess that makes him GGUncle ? ? ? Namesake of one of the pastors - Rev. William Samuel MOFFATT is the way it is spelled in the Presbyterian records on line , but, Moffitt works for me - what are ya' gonna do after 150 years ? ? ? LOL But ... his brother is (Monroe Oates Montgomery) seems to be namesake of another pastor, Rev. Monroe Oats. Marsha --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Wilma King <wilking@suddenlink.net> wroteYou are thinking of Thomas Moffit Montgomery, b. 18 dec 1861 in Arkansas, d. 1 feb 1936 in Muskogee, Oklahoma. = = = From: PEGGY TRUESDELL Marsha, I've been reading all the posts on Prosperity Church -- and one just now, though I've seen MOFFIT name before, made me wonder if one of your MONTGOMERY relatives -- son of Joseph MONTGOMERY and Anna Martha MORRIS ?? -- didn't have MOFFITT as part of his name. If so, they may have named him after this person.
My grandmothers brother was my great uncle, so I would assume that the brother of your GGF would be your GGGUncle. Seems like you have to add one more "great" per generation backwards. Does that make any sense to anyone? On 12/11/2010 09:58 AM, Marsha Boles wrote: > Yes - that's my fella ! ! ! > Brother of my GGF - guess that makes him GGUncle ? ? ? > Namesake of one of the pastors - Rev. William Samuel MOFFATT is the way it is spelled in the Presbyterian records on line , but, Moffitt works for me - what are ya' gonna do after 150 years ? ? ? LOL > But ... his brother is (Monroe Oates Montgomery) seems to be namesake of another pastor, Rev. Monroe Oats. > Marsha > > --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Wilma King<wilking@suddenlink.net> wroteYou are thinking of Thomas Moffit Montgomery, b. 18 dec 1861 in Arkansas, d. 1 feb 1936 in Muskogee, Oklahoma. > = = = > From: PEGGY TRUESDELL > Marsha, I've been reading all the posts on Prosperity Church -- and one just > now, though I've seen MOFFIT name before, made me wonder if one of your > MONTGOMERY relatives -- son of Joseph MONTGOMERY and Anna Martha MORRIS ?? -- didn't have MOFFITT as part of his name. If so, they may have named him after this person. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._