Was reviewing some early ancestors today and their participation in the Revolutionary War. In trying to put some time lines on some events, I know I almost caused a revolt recently when talking about the Pigg Family and their persecution for drinking the forbidden tea. Will try to not start another revolt. This time I was researching James Sage, a 24 year old British baker for His Majesty, King George III, who decided to come to America, arriving on 23 Jul 1773. The war started in about 1775. James Sage married Lovice Ott on 25 December 1779. By about 1780 the American Continental Army was suffering numerous losses and there were many soldiers who deserted and the situation looked really bad. The British occupied New York City, Lord Cornwallis had captured Charleston SC, Richmond VA and was building a major military fort at the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay. A desperate request for assistance by Gen. George Washington to the French, resulted in the French landing 6,000 troops to Rhode Island in May 1781.They also had sent a fleet of 24 ships which was doing interdiction on the high seas of British supply ships etc. General George Washington met with Comte de Rochambeau, the French commander to discuss strategy. Washington wanted to attack New York City but Comte de Rochambeau was apprehensive about attacking such a well fortified position, he lacked confidence in the Continental Army. The French suggested marching south to meet General Cornwallis in Virginia. From May to August 1781, discussions continued and finally Washington acquiesced to fight the war the French way on 22 Aug 1871. The struggling American Continental Army and the French force left White Plains, New York for Virginia arriving in early September 1781. At the same time the combined armies marched south, the French Navy engaged the British Navy at the entrance of the Chesapeake Bay defeating them and sending them back to New York, leaving General Cornwallis without supplies or transportation to escape. After five days of bombarding General Cornwallis's fortified positions in Yorktown the American and French attack and overwhelmed Cornwallis's forces and on 19 October 1781 the British Commander had no option but to surrender. News of the surrender reached King George III on 25 Nov 1781, sending shock waves through out England. Although King George wanted to continue the battle, the surrender forced Prime Minister Lord North to resign in Mar 1782. The replacement English Government started the peace process which ended in the signing of "The Treaty of Paris" in September 1783, which granted independence to the American Colonies. At the Siege of Yorktown, the British had about 9,700 troops, the French and American combined force was about 17,000. The French Fleet had 24 ships and the British fleet had 19 ships. The Americans report 20 deaths and 56 wounded. The French reported 52 dead and 134 wounded. The British reported 800 dead and wounded. Our thanks to the French. Don

I dice up smoked sausage and a small onion, put some oleo in a skillet, start browning them, then add thinly sliced cabbage. I have the heat on med. high, and once it starts cooking, I stir it. I like my cabbage to have a bit of brown on it, but as long as it cooks to your preference, thats it. Oh, yeah, I sprinkle a bit of sugar and salt on the cabbage once it starts to wilt. If you put a lid on it, it will steam instead of fry. gen --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Pat Foster <pjf1946@cox.net> wrote: > From: Pat Foster <pjf1946@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] off subject: cabbage leftovers > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 9:36 PM > Hi Gen > How do you fry cabbage? > We like cabbage in various dishes but I've never > eaten/fixed it fried. > PatFoster > > -----Original Message----- > From: arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gen > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:03 PM > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARIZARD] off subject: cabbage leftovers > > I don't know about anyone else, but I love leftover > cabbage, fried or boiled > & drained, mixed with leftover mashed potatoes, and > made into 'potato > cakes'.  > Of course around here, if both my daughters are here, there > is never any > leftover fried cabbage.  I think their German heritage > might come into play > here, their paternal grandmother cooked with cabbage like > my mother did with > potatoes. > > I can't believe we're having tornadoes this time of > year.  My heart goes out > to all the families affected.  > > gen > > >       > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gen How do you fry cabbage? We like cabbage in various dishes but I've never eaten/fixed it fried. PatFoster -----Original Message----- From: arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gen Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:03 PM To: arizard@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARIZARD] off subject: cabbage leftovers I don't know about anyone else, but I love leftover cabbage, fried or boiled & drained, mixed with leftover mashed potatoes, and made into 'potato cakes'. Of course around here, if both my daughters are here, there is never any leftover fried cabbage. I think their German heritage might come into play here, their paternal grandmother cooked with cabbage like my mother did with potatoes. I can't believe we're having tornadoes this time of year. My heart goes out to all the families affected. gen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know about anyone else, but I love leftover cabbage, fried or boiled & drained, mixed with leftover mashed potatoes, and made into 'potato cakes'. Of course around here, if both my daughters are here, there is never any leftover fried cabbage. I think their German heritage might come into play here, their paternal grandmother cooked with cabbage like my mother did with potatoes. I can't believe we're having tornadoes this time of year. My heart goes out to all the families affected. gen

Morning Dolores, Thanks for reporting in this cold morning. Wish I could sleep late, but I am an early riser, and don't like staying up real late. after the 10:00 o'clock news is over at night I usually hit the sack. Do you still search on our Wood clan? Jan did some for me on Ancestry but haven't gotten much more than I had. They are like the Gillihan bunch so many of them. Love Junebug "Dolores Buck" <dolbuck1@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:16 PM To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] new computer > H i Junebug, cuz Dolores repor ting in. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Junebug <junebug@centurytel.net> > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 12:08:59 PM > Subject: [ARIZARD] new computer > > Late Morning call. > Listen up everyone this old gal got a new computer installed yesterday , > and > some how lost my address's, so if you can wand will just send me a "howdy" > so I > can get my addresses back in. > Hope every one had a good Christmas, and have a Happy 2011. Junebug > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning to you Betty, and everyone. Hope you are having coffee with me this morning. It is colder. 25 this morning at 5:00 am. Guess old winter is fixing to show off. Guess we can't complain after dodging the bullet on those storms that passed through New Yrs eve.. Yes, Betty I can relate on the knee surgery. I am still not over mine yet, but guess I am doing ok. Don't walk as much as we did after the cold weather. That exercise is really a must, but not much fun is it? My family at least stayed well over the holidays, as far as I know. Got to see them all, but 3 grandsons that live in Vt. Think they are planning to come this summer some time. I am still battling this computer. It is so much different, and my combo scanner, and copier is different too. Janice has been a crutch for me I tell you. Couldn't have done it all by my self. This one does so much more than the old one did. Every have a good day, and God Bless . Love June -------------------------------------------------- From: "betty hutson" <bettyjohannahutson@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:51 PM To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas > Just had my black-eyed peas, greens and chicken. I'm slower this year > getting things done. Had my left total knee replacement Dec. 8th. Still > working thru exercises and walking. I know that Junebug can relate to > that. > Have a very Happy and safe New Year's everyone, with good health. > Betty H. > > --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Gen <herronswayward1@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Gen <herronswayward1@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 5:47 AM > > > Having blackeyed peas, fried cabbage w/smoked sausage, cornbread muffins, > mashed potatoes & ham for dinner today. Cooking it here, then > transporting it to OK to my oldest dau's house. > Last years blackeyed peas were warmed up in a motel micro-wave, but were > enjoyed by me & all the gkids just the same. > HAPPY NEW YEAR, everybody! > gen > > --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> wrote: > >> From: Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> >> Subject: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas >> To: arizard@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 5:08 PM >> Hope all you >> Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. >> Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit >> of the >> Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that >> really makes >> them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make >> Collard >> Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of >> course >> the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn >> bread. My >> party may not last that late today so probably will have >> the feast for lunch. >> I have heard that prior to the Civil >> War, black eyed peas were just >> used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves >> usually let >> them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the >> Union soldiers >> took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping >> and that is >> when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the >> staple. That >> may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old >> >> southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, >> that will >> bring good luck the rest of the year. >> >> Happy New Year >> Don >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just had my black-eyed peas, greens and chicken.  I'm slower this year getting things done.  Had my left total knee replacement Dec. 8th.  Still working thru exercises and walking.  I know that Junebug can relate to that. Have a very Happy and safe New Year's everyone, with good health. Betty H. --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Gen <herronswayward1@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Gen <herronswayward1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas To: arizard@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 5:47 AM Having blackeyed peas, fried cabbage w/smoked sausage, cornbread muffins, mashed potatoes & ham for dinner today.  Cooking it here, then transporting it to OK to my oldest dau's house.  Last years blackeyed peas were warmed up in a motel micro-wave, but were enjoyed by me & all the gkids just the same. HAPPY NEW YEAR, everybody! gen --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> wrote: > From: Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> > Subject: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 5:08 PM >     Hope all you > Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. > Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit > of the > Petit Jean Smoked Ham  left over from Christmas, that > really makes > them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make > Collard > Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of > course > the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn > bread. My > party may not last that late today so probably will have > the feast for lunch. >     I have heard that prior to the Civil > War, black eyed peas were just > used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves > usually let > them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the > Union soldiers > took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping > and that is > when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the > staple. That > may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old > > southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, > that will > bring good luck the rest of the year. > > Happy New Year > Don > >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

H i Junebug,  cuz Dolores repor ting in.  ________________________________ From: Junebug <junebug@centurytel.net> To: arizard@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 12:08:59 PM Subject: [ARIZARD] new computer Late Morning call. Listen up everyone this old gal got a new computer installed yesterday , and some how lost my address's, so if you can wand will just send me a "howdy" so I can get my addresses back in. Hope every one had a good Christmas, and have  a Happy 2011. Junebug ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MORN-IN CUZ BUG BUG AND ALL. And a cup back to you. Sure is bad about the folks in them there storms. My grand kid told me once when there was some of them storms going on down there. Now mind you he was a little squirt, He said grand paw we sure are lucky liven where we live. Uncle Jimmy living California has earth quakes, Uncle Robert living in New Orleans has them big wind storms. In Arkansas the family have them Tornadoes all we get here is all this snow. and that is fun. Got to talk to our boy Clifford over in Afghanistan by way of this computer this more. He is still ok thank goodness. I as you sure wish that thing could be done with for all of them over there. My feelings sure goes out to all of the families that have lost loved ones in that mess. Cuz, I am a old gesser but don't know how I could take it is some thing should happen to him. Ciffs e-mail over there is clifford.montgomery@afghan.swa.army.mil No matter how good this year has been. Hope that this finds every one a better year then the one just past. Jim and Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Junebug" <junebug@centurytel.net> To: arizard@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2011 9:04:36 AM Subject: [ARIZARD] Morning "off subject" Morning Everyone: Hope you are drinking with me this morning for I have hit the coffee pot pretty heavy this morning. Ha! Learning just how dumb I am trying to figure this new computer out. If Jan wasn't next door I would really be in trouble. She can show me and if I don't write it down I forget in a minute what she did. Trying to learn this new Printer, scanner combo. too . This pea brain just don't kick in to good. Boy! it is sad what that storm did yesterday .So sad about all those people getting killed. This will be one New Years that those families will never forget. We didn't get any thing but rain here at the house, but the siren went off and Karen came up and Jan is here by us. We didn't go to the cellar, but was set on go. The temps are colder this morning. More like winter. Hope Every a good 2011, and hope, the service guy's and gal's can come home safe and sound before long. May God keep them safe and sound till then. Love and God Bless The confused Junebug. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know it will be a happy day when your son can be home. I know it has to be terrible for all of you families that has loved ones in that terrible place. Don't have any one in our family, but had two brothers that served in the war. Ed, and his 2 brothers did too. Take care and listen to the little one .Sounds like he may know what he wants "snow" My sweet daughter Janice came over and did my floors, and sure wasn't before they needed it. June and Ed -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim and Judy MONTGOMERY" <pabst04@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 9:50 AM To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Morning "off subject" > MORN-IN CUZ BUG BUG AND ALL. > And a cup back to you. > > Sure is bad about the folks in them there storms. My grand kid told me > once when there was some of them storms going on down there. Now mind you > he was a little squirt, He said grand paw we sure are lucky liven where we > live. Uncle Jimmy living California has earth quakes, Uncle Robert living > in New Orleans has them big wind storms. In Arkansas the family have them > Tornadoes all we get here is all this snow. and that is fun. > > Got to talk to our boy Clifford over in Afghanistan by way of this > computer this more. He is still ok thank goodness. I as you sure wish that > thing could be done with for all of them over there. My feelings sure goes > out to all of the families that have lost loved ones in that mess. > Cuz, I am a old gesser but don't know how I could take it is some thing > should happen to him. > Ciffs e-mail over there is > clifford.montgomery@afghan.swa.army.mil > > No matter how good this year has been. Hope that this finds every one a > better year then the one just past. > > Jim and Judy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Junebug" <junebug@centurytel.net> > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2011 9:04:36 AM > Subject: [ARIZARD] Morning "off subject" > > Morning Everyone: Hope you are drinking with me this morning for I have > hit the coffee pot pretty heavy this morning. Ha! Learning just how dumb I > am trying to figure this new computer out. If Jan wasn't next door I would > really be in trouble. She can show me and if I don't write it down I > forget in a minute what she did. Trying to learn this new Printer, scanner > combo. too . This pea brain just don't kick in to good. > > Boy! it is sad what that storm did yesterday .So sad about all those > people getting killed. This will be one New Years that those families will > never forget. We didn't get any thing but rain here at the house, but the > siren went off and Karen came up and Jan is here by us. We didn't go to > the cellar, but was set on go. The temps are colder this morning. More > like winter. > > Hope Every a good 2011, and hope, the service guy's and gal's can come > home safe and sound before long. May God keep them safe and sound till > then. > Love and God Bless The confused Junebug. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Some of our ARIZARD list family may not be familiar with our southern traditions so I thought I would just throw this in for good measure. I take this opportunity to wish all of you the very best of the New Year. (Peas or no peas). Many a little child of the South has been told, "You will earn a dollar for every black-eyed pea you eat on New Year's Day." I think hard times on the farm of the 1920's and 1930's encouraged parents and grandparents in the Ozarks to carry on with the superstition. By New Year's Day, all that may have been left to eat was dried black-eyed peas, ham hocks, flour, corn meal, eggs and buttermilk. I do not know this for sure; but I can certainly imagine my grandfathers spinning a yarn of promised riches to entice their children to eat whatever was available. I've also recently read that the peas symbolize copper coins and that another Southern tradition was to serve this with "greens" which represent "greenbacks". Some other Ozark Mountain New Year's traditions? Old-timers and mountain-dwellers held fast to a series of strange, spooky, and sometimes comical traditions regarding the New Year. In regions like the Ozark Mountains and other remote communities, great stock was placed in carrying out these traditions to secure good luck for the New Year, or to avoid a curse in the coming months. Derived in part from Celtic superstitions, European folk tales, and seemingly the imaginations of many a remote population, the superstitions were carried on out of personal fears by some and respect for past generations by others. Black-Eyed Peas and Hog Jowl - Mountain superstitions dictated the choice of meal served for New Year's Day to encourage good luck in the rest of the year. The traditional fair included black-eyed peas, served up in heaping helpings since each pea or bean eaten was a guarantee of one day of good luck. Accompanying the beans was the "hog jowl" a meat serving that also heralded good luck for the New Year. Woe to the dinner guest who avoided these two food items, since this meal was one of the most popular New Year's superstitions observed. Beware of New Year's Visitors - Unexpected visitors were a cause for concern on New Year's Day, since the appearance of another person heralded a year full of company for the household. If a man visited a home unannounced on New Year's, it was considered a sign of good luck. A woman, however, was a sign that a troubled year lay ahead if she arrived unexpectedly on a family's doorstep on New Year's Day. Others believed that no one should enter the home from the outside world without bringing in something from outside, to ensure a year of prosperity for the family within. Some families adhered strictly to the superstition that nothing should be carried outside on New Year's Day, to avoid carrying out the family's good luck for the year to come. Today, the tradition of eating black-eyed peas for the New Year has evolved into a number of variations and embellishments of the luck and prosperity theme including: Served with greens (collards, mustard or turnip greens, which varies regionally), the peas represent coins and the greens represent paper money. In some areas cabbage is used in place of the greens. Cornbread, often served with black-eyed peas and greens, represents gold. For the best chance of luck every day in the year ahead, one must eat at least 365 black-eyed peas on New Year's Day. Black-eyed peas eaten with stewed tomatoes represent wealth and health. Adding a shiny penny or dime to the pot just before serving is another tradition practiced by some. When served, the person whose bowl contains the penny or dime receives the best luck for the New Year, unless of course, the recipient swallows the coin, which would be a rather unlucky way to start off the year. The catch to all of these superstitious traditions is that the black-eyed peas are the essential element and eating only the greens without the peas, for example, will not do the trick. I pray that everyone has the best year yet and that each year will only continue to improve. We don't know how much longer this world (as we know it) will continue to exist, so each day do at least one good deed. If everyone would do even kind act each day (no matter how small), just think what a better world this would be. God bless each and every one of you. Janice Reed

Morning Everyone: Hope you are drinking with me this morning for I have hit the coffee pot pretty heavy this morning. Ha! Learning just how dumb I am trying to figure this new computer out. If Jan wasn't next door I would really be in trouble. She can show me and if I don't write it down I forget in a minute what she did. Trying to learn this new Printer, scanner combo. too . This pea brain just don't kick in to good. Boy! it is sad what that storm did yesterday .So sad about all those people getting killed. This will be one New Years that those families will never forget. We didn't get any thing but rain here at the house, but the siren went off and Karen came up and Jan is here by us. We didn't go to the cellar, but was set on go. The temps are colder this morning. More like winter. Hope Every a good 2011, and hope, the service guy's and gal's can come home safe and sound before long. May God keep them safe and sound till then. Love and God Bless The confused Junebug.

Having blackeyed peas, fried cabbage w/smoked sausage, cornbread muffins, mashed potatoes & ham for dinner today. Cooking it here, then transporting it to OK to my oldest dau's house. Last years blackeyed peas were warmed up in a motel micro-wave, but were enjoyed by me & all the gkids just the same. HAPPY NEW YEAR, everybody! gen --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> wrote: > From: Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> > Subject: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 5:08 PM >     Hope all you > Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. > Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit > of the > Petit Jean Smoked Ham  left over from Christmas, that > really makes > them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make > Collard > Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of > course > the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn > bread. My > party may not last that late today so probably will have > the feast for lunch. >     I have heard that prior to the Civil > War, black eyed peas were just > used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves > usually let > them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the > Union soldiers > took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping > and that is > when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the > staple. That > may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old > > southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, > that will > bring good luck the rest of the year. > > Happy New Year > Don > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

My Mom always cooked black eyed peas with ham hocks for New Years. She said they were sure to make you prosper in the new year. Don't suppose we ever had many meals when there wasn't cornbread and especially with peas or beans. Her favorite peas were crowder peas, but you don't see them too often. Hope you have a wonderful New Year! Annita (Taylor) Fulton > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:08:54 -0600 > To: arizard@rootsweb.com > From: dott@centurytel.net > Subject: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas > > Hope all you Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. > Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit of the > Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that really makes > them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make Collard > Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of course > the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn bread. My > party may not last that late today so probably will have the feast for lunch. > I have heard that prior to the Civil War, black eyed peas were just > used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves usually let > them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the Union soldiers > took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping and that is > when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the staple. That > may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old > southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, that will > bring good luck the rest of the year. > > Happy New Year > Don > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of the time my family just opened a can and heated up whatever was in it. I would swear thee was anything "good" in there to begin with. Best I can recall when she put them up she had onion and what tasted more like bacon than ham, but could have been some cured smoked ham. I don't know what else she might have put in them. I just remember how good they were. On 12/31/2010 06:55 PM, Don Ott wrote: > Gosh I never had that problem, I of course have to buy the > peas, I don't grown them any more. You might try bringing them to a > boil, let them sit a while and change the water. I never noticed an > earthy taste in mine, guess I got lucky. I do use some ham to make > them taste better. I just tasted the water in mine, they are about > half done, and it did not have a bad taste. Hope that does not > develop. I will always have the corn bread if all else fails. > Don > > > At 05:43 PM 12/31/2010, you wrote: >> Most of the time when I've tried black eyed peas the dirt they grew in >> would taste better. However, there is one friend of moms that used to >> grow her own peas and put them up. They were so good you just wanted to >> fill a tub and get in with a spoon. I've tried and tried to get her >> "recipe" but she doesn't remember anymore. Wish I had gotten it back >> when. >> >> On 12/31/2010 05:08 PM, Don Ott wrote: >> > Hope all you Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. >> > Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit of the >> > Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that really makes >> > them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make Collard >> > Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of course >> > the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn bread. My >> > party may not last that late today so probably will have the feast >> for lunch. >> > I have heard that prior to the Civil War, black eyed peas >> were just >> > used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves usually let >> > them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the Union soldiers >> > took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping and that is >> > when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the staple. That >> > may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old >> > southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, that will >> > bring good luck the rest of the year. >> > >> > Happy New Year >> > Don >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> -- >> "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George >> Washington >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Thanks Peggy, I do not seem to know this person, I probably know his ancestry. Will look that up. Thanks Don dott@centurytel.net At 06:13 PM 12/31/2010, you wrote: >Greetings, Don! Happy New Year in 2011! > >I have the obituary for this gentleman from Tuesday's Fort Worth >Star-Telegram, >and thought you may have known him or his family. It says his >parents were Jeff >and Beatrice Mae DAVIS. His date of birth: 25 June 1932, in Pyatt, >Arkansas. >He was one of five brothers who "grew up in the Ozark Mountains." He met his >wife Norma Sue TAYLOR, when both were attending the School of the >Ozarks. They >married 21 March 1955 when he returned home from service in the Korean War. > >He earned a business degree from Arkansas State University and in 1970 bought >Dillon Material Handling in Dallas. It outlines his continued business >successes, having owned national and international companies. He held 19 >patents. > >There was article in Star-Telegram about his being the "Doughnut Man" >chronicling his Saturday deliveries of doughnuts with notes of encouragement, >which delighted and inspired his relaties, friends and even >strangers for over a >decade. > >He was 78 and had recently been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. > >I'd like to send this story and his shorter obituary to you, as you >may know or >run across someone interested in him and his family. Please send me your >address and I'll start New Year by mailing this to you. > >Thank you. > >Peggy > > > >________________________________ >From: Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> >To: arizard@rootsweb.com >Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 5:08:54 PM >Subject: [ARIZARD] Off-Subject- Black Eyed Peas > > Hope all you Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. >Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit of the >Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that really makes >them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make Collard >Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of course >the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn bread. My >party may not last that late today so probably will have the feast for lunch. > I have heard that prior to the Civil War, black eyed peas were just >used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves usually let >them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the Union soldiers >took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping and that is >when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the staple. That >may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old >southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, that will >bring good luck the rest of the year. > >Happy New Year >Don > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gosh I never had that problem, I of course have to buy the peas, I don't grown them any more. You might try bringing them to a boil, let them sit a while and change the water. I never noticed an earthy taste in mine, guess I got lucky. I do use some ham to make them taste better. I just tasted the water in mine, they are about half done, and it did not have a bad taste. Hope that does not develop. I will always have the corn bread if all else fails. Don At 05:43 PM 12/31/2010, you wrote: >Most of the time when I've tried black eyed peas the dirt they grew in >would taste better. However, there is one friend of moms that used to >grow her own peas and put them up. They were so good you just wanted to >fill a tub and get in with a spoon. I've tried and tried to get her >"recipe" but she doesn't remember anymore. Wish I had gotten it back when. > >On 12/31/2010 05:08 PM, Don Ott wrote: > > Hope all you Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. > > Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit of the > > Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that really makes > > them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make Collard > > Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of course > > the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn bread. My > > party may not last that late today so probably will have the > feast for lunch. > > I have heard that prior to the Civil War, black eyed peas were just > > used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves usually let > > them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the Union soldiers > > took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping and that is > > when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the staple. That > > may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old > > southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, that will > > bring good luck the rest of the year. > > > > Happy New Year > > Don > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >-- >"A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington > >_ _... ..._ _ >_._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of the time when I've tried black eyed peas the dirt they grew in would taste better. However, there is one friend of moms that used to grow her own peas and put them up. They were so good you just wanted to fill a tub and get in with a spoon. I've tried and tried to get her "recipe" but she doesn't remember anymore. Wish I had gotten it back when. On 12/31/2010 05:08 PM, Don Ott wrote: > Hope all you Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. > Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit of the > Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that really makes > them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make Collard > Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of course > the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn bread. My > party may not last that late today so probably will have the feast for lunch. > I have heard that prior to the Civil War, black eyed peas were just > used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves usually let > them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the Union soldiers > took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping and that is > when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the staple. That > may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old > southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, that will > bring good luck the rest of the year. > > Happy New Year > Don > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Hope all you Southerners have your Black Eyed Peas on cooking. Instead of the traditional Hog Jowl, I like to save a bit of the Petit Jean Smoked Ham left over from Christmas, that really makes them good. There are not many ways that I know how to make Collard Greens taste good, except add a lot of pepper sauce. And of course the crowning jewel of the just after midnight snack is corn bread. My party may not last that late today so probably will have the feast for lunch. I have heard that prior to the Civil War, black eyed peas were just used for animal feed and that large farms with slaves usually let them have peas to eat. During Sherman's march when the Union soldiers took much of the food supply, everyone was left scrapping and that is when cow peas and black eyed peas became a part of the staple. That may well be a tale without a lot of truth, however many old southerners like to have black eyed peas on New Years Day, that will bring good luck the rest of the year. Happy New Year Don

Since it's a bit quiet, thought I would tell about how some of my family research came together this year. I've told on the Lists how my aunt Cleora Helen {KING} ROBERTSON (of Mountain Home) had corresponded with our relative Mary Lucinda {KING} PERO [known as Lou PERO] beginning about 1960.  She asked questions and my aunt would send answers back to her.  Later, Lou compiled the family histories and sent her a copy.  I got my copy of these in the 1970s and corresponded with Lou for several years. What I've learned is that sometimes family lore is actually borne out in time.  My aunt had written on top of the KING - HULSEY pages that her grandmother Elizabeth "Betty" {HULSEY} KING (1818, AL - 1902, Baxter Co., AR) had described the muscadine grapes native to Texas and mentioned the Brazos and Trinity Rivers.  The widowed "Betty" had migrated with several of her children about 1875 by ox-drawn carts (probably in a caravan) from Northwest Alabama to Matney Township in Baxter County.  Then, not long after arriving in Arkansas, they took this trip to Texas but returned to live in Baxter County.  My aunt did not write where they went and who they went to see. My belief was that it had to be someone in the HULSEY family she went to see in Texas.  AND, it was!  Her brother John Skid HULSEY and family had left Colbert County, Alabama and were in Lamar County, Texas, but later he and descendants lived in Fannin County. I still have a number of "brick walls" but love the hunt!  Hope some of yours disappear during 2011! Peggy {KING} TRUESDELL