I hope I can butt in here and correct some of this. As you may or may not know, my maiden name is Younger and I have studied them very closely. First of all - Adeline Lee Younger was the daughter of Charles Lee Younger and his common law wife, Parmelia Dorcus Wilson. Their children were named in his will and given the right to the Younger surname. Adeline Lee Wilson/Younger married James Lewis Dalton, Jr. on March 12, 1851 in Jackson Co. MO. James was a farmer and a known horse gambler. Their children, Bob, Grat and Emmett were members of the notorious Dalton Gang. Secondly, Cole (Thomas Coleman) Younger, never married and had no children that he claimed, at least. It has been rumored that he fathered a child with Belle Starr, but he denied it. I haven't researched the Dalton Family, so can't comment on them. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Ott To: arizard@rootsweb.com ; armarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: [ARIZARD] Dalton Gang My notes on the George Elias Barker and Arizona Donnia (Clark) "Ma" Barker family created some interest on the Dalton Gang. I dug out some notes I had made some time ago on this family. I never did directly tie the Dalton's in my family to the Dalton Gang of notoriety. There is quite a bit of information available on the internet with the center of information being Kingfisher Oklahoma, where almost all the family is buried. The general consensus is that when brother John Franklin "Frank" Dalton was shot and killed in Line Of Duty, in Fort Smith, the other brothers, perhaps trying to avenge his death, became Deputy U.S. Marshals. After not being paid for their law enforcement work, in 1890 brothers Grat, Bob & Emmett moved to the other side of the law. Father James Lewis Dalton b. 16 Feb 1826 KY, d. 6 Jul 1890 KS (Cholera), had been a saloon keeper in K.C. MO, moving to Indian Territory ca. 1882 and on to Coffeyville Ks in 1888. On 12 Mar 1851 James Lewis had married Adeline Lee Younger (Daughter of Cole Younger, the Outlaw). b. 15 Sep 1835 Cass, MO, d. 25 Jan 1925, Kingfisher OK. Lewis and Adeline had 15 children, 13 of them reaching maturity. The ancestry of James Lewis Dalton" David Dalton- VA Hannah Goad VA James Dalton 1770 VA m 1 Agatha Patterson 1771 VA m 2 Mary "Poilly" Adams 1781 Va Benjamin Dalton VA Nancy Raybourn KY James Lewis Dalton 16 Feb 1826 KY Adeline Younger 15 Sep 1835 MO Children involved in Dalton Gang. Grattan Hanley "Grat" Dalton b. 30 Mar 1861 Lawrence, Douglas, Ks, d. 5 Oct 1892 Coffeyville, KS. Grat had been convicted of horse theft but he wanted to be a bigger name than Jesse James so they decided to rob two banks at the same time in Coffeyville. They had specialized in train robbery. He was killed in a gunfight that followed the duo bank robbery attempt. William Marion "Bill" Dalton b. 1863 Cass, MO. d. 8 Jan 1894 Elk City, OK. Part of a group called "Wild Bunch" was shot by a U.S. Marshall and killed in Elk City OK. Robert Renick "Bob" Dalton b. 13 May 1869 Cass, MO. d. 5 Oct 1892 Coffeyville, Ks. Killed at the same bank robbery attempt as brother "Grat" He was thought to be the wildest of the boys, he had killed a man when he was 19 years old, he was a U.S. Marshall at the time. He is said to be the one who introduced liquor to Indian Territory. (Not sure about that.) Emmett "Em" Dalton b. 3 May 1871 Cass. MO. d. 13 Jul 1937 Hollywood, CA. In the duo bank robbery attempt in Coffeyville Ks, with his brothers, he had received 23 gunshot wounds but survived. He was given a life sentence, but was paroled after 14 years. He moved to CA, became involved in building construction, real estate and film making. The brother who was shot while a U.S. Marshal, John Franklin "Frank" Dalton b. 8 Jun 1859, Jackson, MO. d. 27 Nov 1887, Fort Smith, Sebastian, AR. He may have been married to someone with ties to Izard Co. Ar. The first target I find of the Dalton Gang was a gambling house in Silver City, NM. They specialized in robbing trains and banks in Indian Territory and Kansas. They had been quite successful until they tried to outdo Jesse James. Don ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My notes on the George Elias Barker and Arizona Donnia (Clark) "Ma" Barker family created some interest on the Dalton Gang. I dug out some notes I had made some time ago on this family. I never did directly tie the Dalton's in my family to the Dalton Gang of notoriety. There is quite a bit of information available on the internet with the center of information being Kingfisher Oklahoma, where almost all the family is buried. The general consensus is that when brother John Franklin "Frank" Dalton was shot and killed in Line Of Duty, in Fort Smith, the other brothers, perhaps trying to avenge his death, became Deputy U.S. Marshals. After not being paid for their law enforcement work, in 1890 brothers Grat, Bob & Emmett moved to the other side of the law. Father James Lewis Dalton b. 16 Feb 1826 KY, d. 6 Jul 1890 KS (Cholera), had been a saloon keeper in K.C. MO, moving to Indian Territory ca. 1882 and on to Coffeyville Ks in 1888. On 12 Mar 1851 James Lewis had married Adeline Lee Younger (Daughter of Cole Younger, the Outlaw). b. 15 Sep 1835 Cass, MO, d. 25 Jan 1925, Kingfisher OK. Lewis and Adeline had 15 children, 13 of them reaching maturity. The ancestry of James Lewis Dalton" David Dalton- VA Hannah Goad VA James Dalton 1770 VA m 1 Agatha Patterson 1771 VA m 2 Mary "Poilly" Adams 1781 Va Benjamin Dalton VA Nancy Raybourn KY James Lewis Dalton 16 Feb 1826 KY Adeline Younger 15 Sep 1835 MO Children involved in Dalton Gang. Grattan Hanley "Grat" Dalton b. 30 Mar 1861 Lawrence, Douglas, Ks, d. 5 Oct 1892 Coffeyville, KS. Grat had been convicted of horse theft but he wanted to be a bigger name than Jesse James so they decided to rob two banks at the same time in Coffeyville. They had specialized in train robbery. He was killed in a gunfight that followed the duo bank robbery attempt. William Marion "Bill" Dalton b. 1863 Cass, MO. d. 8 Jan 1894 Elk City, OK. Part of a group called "Wild Bunch" was shot by a U.S. Marshall and killed in Elk City OK. Robert Renick "Bob" Dalton b. 13 May 1869 Cass, MO. d. 5 Oct 1892 Coffeyville, Ks. Killed at the same bank robbery attempt as brother "Grat" He was thought to be the wildest of the boys, he had killed a man when he was 19 years old, he was a U.S. Marshall at the time. He is said to be the one who introduced liquor to Indian Territory. (Not sure about that.) Emmett "Em" Dalton b. 3 May 1871 Cass. MO. d. 13 Jul 1937 Hollywood, CA. In the duo bank robbery attempt in Coffeyville Ks, with his brothers, he had received 23 gunshot wounds but survived. He was given a life sentence, but was paroled after 14 years. He moved to CA, became involved in building construction, real estate and film making. The brother who was shot while a U.S. Marshal, John Franklin "Frank" Dalton b. 8 Jun 1859, Jackson, MO. d. 27 Nov 1887, Fort Smith, Sebastian, AR. He may have been married to someone with ties to Izard Co. Ar. The first target I find of the Dalton Gang was a gambling house in Silver City, NM. They specialized in robbing trains and banks in Indian Territory and Kansas. They had been quite successful until they tried to outdo Jesse James. Don

My notes on the George Elias Barker and Arizona Donnia (Clark) "Ma" Barker family created some interest on the Dalton Gang. I dug out some notes I had made some time ago on this family. I never did directly tie the Dalton's in my family to the Dalton Gang of notoriety. There is quite a bit of information available on the internet with the center of information being Kingfisher Oklahoma, where almost all the family is buried. The general consensus is that when brother John Franklin "Frank" Dalton was shot and killed in Line Of Duty, in Fort Smith, the other brothers, perhaps trying to avenge his death, became Deputy U.S. Marshals. After not being paid for their law enforcement work, in 1890 brothers Grat, Bob & Emmett moved to the other side of the law. Father James Lewis Dalton b. 16 Feb 1826 KY, d. 6 Jul 1890 KS (Cholera), had been a saloon keeper in K.C. MO, moving to Indian Territory ca. 1882 and on to Coffeyville Ks in 1888. On 12 Mar 1851 James Lewis had married Adeline Lee Younger (Daughter of Cole Younger, the Outlaw). b. 15 Sep 1835 Cass, MO, d. 25 Jan 1925, Kingfisher OK. Lewis and Adeline had 15 children, 13 of them reaching maturity. The ancestry of James Lewis Dalton" David Dalton- VA Hannah Goad VA James Dalton 1770 VA m 1 Agatha Patterson 1771 VA m 2 Mary "Poilly" Adams 1781 Va Benjamin Dalton VA Nancy Raybourn KY James Lewis Dalton 16 Feb 1826 KY Adeline Younger 15 Sep 1835 MO Children involved in Dalton Gang. Grattan Hanley "Grat" Dalton b. 30 Mar 1861 Lawrence, Douglas, Ks, d. 5 Oct 1892 Coffeyville, KS. Grat had been convicted of horse theft but he wanted to be a bigger name than Jesse James so they decided to rob two banks at the same time in Coffeyville. They had specialized in train robbery. He was killed in a gunfight that followed the duo bank robbery attempt. William Marion "Bill" Dalton b. 1863 Cass, MO. d. 8 Jan 1894 Elk City, OK. Part of a group called "Wild Bunch" was shot by a U.S. Marshall and killed in Elk City OK. Robert Renick "Bob" Dalton b. 13 May 1869 Cass, MO. d. 5 Oct 1892 Coffeyville, Ks. Killed at the same bank robbery attempt as brother "Grat" He was thought to be the wildest of the boys, he had killed a man when he was 19 years old, he was a U.S. Marshall at the time. He is said to be the one who introduced liquor to Indian Territory. (Not sure about that.) Emmett "Em" Dalton b. 3 May 1871 Cass. MO. d. 13 Jul 1937 Hollywood, CA. In the duo bank robbery attempt in Coffeyville Ks, with his brothers, he had received 23 gunshot wounds but survived. He was given a life sentence, but was paroled after 14 years. He moved to CA, became involved in building construction, real estate and film making. The brother who was shot while a U.S. Marshal, John Franklin "Frank" Dalton b. 8 Jun 1859, Jackson, MO. d. 27 Nov 1887, Fort Smith, Sebastian, AR. He may have been married to someone with ties to Izard Co. Ar. The first target I find of the Dalton Gang was a gambling house in Silver City, NM. They specialized in robbing trains and banks in Indian Territory and Kansas. They had been quite successful until they tried to outdo Jesse James. Don

Something I thought I would share. Don't remember if I did before. I'm trying to clean out my date file. Batesville Guard Published on Friday June 8, 2007 MELBOURNE — Cornelia Catherine Elizabeth Shoemaker, 88, of Melbourne died Tuesday, June 5, 2007, in a Batesville hospital. Born Sept. 6, 1918, in Oxford, she was the daughter of Elbert Elmon and Mary Catherine Simmons Yancey. She was a homemaker and was of the Baptist faith. Survivors include her husband, James “Bud” Shoemaker; three sons, Kenneth Roddy and Winston Roddy, both of Brockwell, and Gail Roddy of Yakima, Wash.; four daughters, Shirley Stevens of Wichita, Kan., Melvalea Kendrick of North Little Rock, Donna Smith of Joplin, Mo., and Kathy Phipps of Hickory Ridge; 18 grandchildren; 29 great-grandchildren; six great-great-grandchildren; and several nephews and nieces. She was preceded in death by her parents; her first husband, Marvin Roddy; two brothers, Ezra Yancey and Marvin Yancey; two sisters, Ozzie Owens and Eva Estes; and a granddaughter, Susan Haynes. The funeral will be at 2 p.m. Saturday at Howard Funeral Home Chapel in Melbourne with S.D. Hacker officiating. Burial will be in Melbourne Cemetery. Pallbearers will be Billy Wayne Yancey, Darrell Owens, Dean Phipps, Dan Barger, Logan Phipps and Scott Phipps.

This name caught my attenttion in the last issue of the Central Illinois Genealogical Quarterly. Decatur, Macon County, IL paper is dated Oct 1, 1868 Elizabeth Harrell b. Sep 15, 1795 in Virginia Anyone interested in a copy give a yell.

Does anyone have any pictures inside this church? Probably be outside since there was no flash? I have 2 family pictures that might have taken there. Pat Foster -----Original Message----- From: arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:arizard-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Billie Walsh Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:40 PM To: arizard@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARIZARD] Prosperity Church I'm working on transcribing the images for Prosperity Church and have a first "test page" up. It's "rough". I'll put the "polish" on it when I'm finished with the transcription. I wanted to ask if anyone [ everyone ] could look it over and see that I have the names right so far. It seems there are two kinds of penmanship in this world. Ornate but nearly undecipherable and a scribble [ mines the latter ]. This isn't so bad, but the changes in style over the years make it hard to decipher some characters. I would like to make sure I get the names right. *<]:o) Also, if anyone has any pictures of the church or people involved that they would like to submit to go along with the page it would be a nice addition. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~arizartp/prosperity_test1.html -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I forgot to mention that any materials submitted remain your property and you maintain any copyright. On 11/13/2010 03:39 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > I'm working on transcribing the images for Prosperity Church and have a > first "test page" up. It's "rough". I'll put the "polish" on it when I'm > finished with the transcription. > > I wanted to ask if anyone [ everyone ] could look it over and see that I > have the names right so far. It seems there are two kinds of penmanship > in this world. Ornate but nearly undecipherable and a scribble [ mines > the latter ]. This isn't so bad, but the changes in style over the years > make it hard to decipher some characters. I would like to make sure I > get the names right. *<]:o) > > Also, if anyone has any pictures of the church or people involved that > they would like to submit to go along with the page it would be a nice > addition. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~arizartp/prosperity_test1.html > > -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I'm working on transcribing the images for Prosperity Church and have a first "test page" up. It's "rough". I'll put the "polish" on it when I'm finished with the transcription. I wanted to ask if anyone [ everyone ] could look it over and see that I have the names right so far. It seems there are two kinds of penmanship in this world. Ornate but nearly undecipherable and a scribble [ mines the latter ]. This isn't so bad, but the changes in style over the years make it hard to decipher some characters. I would like to make sure I get the names right. *<]:o) Also, if anyone has any pictures of the church or people involved that they would like to submit to go along with the page it would be a nice addition. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~arizartp/prosperity_test1.html -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

June and Vera: Thanks very much for the URL for the rootswebworldconnect. I had lost all my "favorites" due to the fact that my computer has been off and on for several months. Finally it's up and going again. But I needed to get into into rootswebworldconnect and tried and tried, but just didn't have the right url. Thanks again for your help. Betty Mc ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3254 - Release Date: 11/13/10

Thanks Pat for the come back. I was beginning to think rootsweb was down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Brewer" <epbrewer@fmtc.com> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] is everyone a sleep? > Vera I'm awake, but not adding anything on here. Just check it each time > I > walk by and as you say, ZILCH. > > However I did work on the download I had done on the Prosperity item. It > will not work for me, and I was looking forward to reading it. I have no > connection but I find those type of journals and things so very > interesting > as to life then. Oh well. > > But maybe others with more interesting thoughts than mine will jump in now > that we woke them up. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vera Reeves" <velane@centurytel.net> > To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:38 PM > Subject: [ARIZARD] is everyone a sleep? > > >> There's been no messages today from any of the rootsweb list I belong to. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3253 - Release Date: 11/12/10 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:16:11 -0600 >To: arizard@rootsweb.com >From: Don Ott <dott@centurytel.net> >Subject: "Ma" Barker and Family > >> >> A recent request by some of the Barker family members >> asked me to see if they were related to the Bloody Barker Gang. I >> did not find any ties to local Barkers but will put a bit of the >> information just in case some one else would like to take a look. >> >>Elias Barker b. ca 1802 KY, d. Aft 1870 ,Laclede, Missouri >>Sarah Dennis b. ca 1825 KY, d. ca 1865 ,Laclede, Missouri >> >>Son >>John Barker b. 8 Sep 1837 MO, d. 8 Oct 1913 ,Stone, Missouri >>Elivra Adaline McDowell b. 12 Oct 1838 KY, d. 24 Mar 1911 >> >>Son >>George Elias Barker b. ca 1858 ,Laclede, MO d. 28 Feb 1941 Joplin, >>Jasper, MO. >>1st m.17 Sep 1877 >>Angeline Campbell >>2nd m. Arizona Donnia "Ma" "Kate" "Arrie" Clark b. 8 Oct >>1873 ,Greene, MO. d. 16 Jan 1935 Ocklawaha, Marion, Florida >> >> George Elias Barker always seemed to be a hard working >> honest and worthwhile citizen, held regular jobs for all his life, >> never seemed to have been involved with his wife and the four sons >> crimes. His answer was always that "Ma" handled the boys. "Ma" >> always said that everyone was trying to persecute her sons and >> they were good boys. Although Ma Barker was never arrested for a >> crime, she was the primary lead in planning and executing the bank >> robberies. She at one time kidnapped a wealthy St. Paul brewer, >> William A. Hamm, and collected $100,000 for his release. They had four sons. >> >>Herman H. Barker b. 30 Oct 1893 MO, d. 29 Aug 1927 Wichita, Kansas >>He married a Carol from Batesville AR, but they had no children. >>After robbing several banks and killing a police officer, he >>committed suicide in Wichita Kansas. "Ma" always said the police executed him. >> >>Lloyd William Barker b. 16 Mar 1897, Lawrence, MO, d. 18 Mar 1949 >>Westminster, CO. He and his wife Jean (NY City) lived together as >>common law husband and wife until about a month before his wife >>killed him. They got married (Feb 1949). They had two children >>Eileen and Michael, I believe both may still be living. These were >>the only grand children of George and Arizona Barker. Lloyd robbed >>a bank in Kansas in 1922, was sent to Leavenworth Kansas Prison for 25 years. >> >>Arthur Raymond "Dock" Barker b. 4 Jun 1899, Lawrence, MO. d. 13 Jan >>1939 Alcatraz CA. "DocK" started out by stealing a Government car >>in 1918, and murdered a night watchman in Tulsa, for which he got >>25 years. He was paroled in 1932. Was soon sent to Alcatraz for >>kidnapping a MN banker, was given a life sentence. Arthur was >>killed in 1939 while trying to escape Alcatraz. >> >>Frederick G. Barker b. 12 Dec 1901 Lawrence, MO. d. 16 Jan 1935 >>Ocklawaha, Marion, FL. He robbed a bank in Wichita Kansas and was >>paroled from prison in 1931. With police hot on his trail for other >>crimes, Fred and his mother "Ma" fled to Oklawaha, Marion, FL, >>where in a 45 minute gun fight with the FBI, both Fred and Ma were killed. >> >> George Barker, the father, had become disenchanted with >> his family and in 1928 he separated from "Ma". He moved to Webb >> City, MO. and ran a filling station until near his death in 1941. >> >>A very interesting study with history like the James and Dalton Family. >> >>Don

There's been no messages today from any of the rootsweb list I belong to.

Vera I'm awake, but not adding anything on here. Just check it each time I walk by and as you say, ZILCH. However I did work on the download I had done on the Prosperity item. It will not work for me, and I was looking forward to reading it. I have no connection but I find those type of journals and things so very interesting as to life then. Oh well. But maybe others with more interesting thoughts than mine will jump in now that we woke them up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Reeves" <velane@centurytel.net> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: [ARIZARD] is everyone a sleep? > There's been no messages today from any of the rootsweb list I belong to. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3253 - Release Date: 11/12/10 >

Does anyone on this list have the E-mail address, or the snail mail address for Marcie Kent Hodges? Thanks. Betty Mc ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3251 - Release Date: 11/11/10

> > A recent request by some of the Barker family members asked > me to see if they were related to the Bloody Barker Gang. I did not > find any ties to local Barkers but will put a bit of the > information just in case some one else would like to take a look. > >Elias Barker b. ca 1802 KY, d. Aft 1870 ,Laclede, Missouri >Sarah Dennis b. ca 1825 KY, d. ca 1865 ,Laclede, Missouri > >Son >John Barker b. 8 Sep 1837 MO, d. 8 Oct 1913 ,Stone, Missouri >Elivra Adaline McDowell b. 12 Oct 1838 KY, d. 24 Mar 1911 > >Son >George Elias Barker b. ca 1858 ,Laclede, MO d. 28 Feb 1941 Joplin, Jasper, MO. >1st m.17 Sep 1877 >Angeline Campbell >2nd m. Arizona Donnia "Ma" "Kate" "Arrie" Clark b. 8 Oct >1873 ,Greene, MO. d. 16 Jan 1935 Ocklawaha, Marion, Florida > > George Elias Barker always seemed to be a hard working > honest and worthwhile citizen, held regular jobs for all his life, > never seemed to have been involved with his wife and the four sons > crimes. His answer was always that "Ma" handled the boys. "Ma" > always said that everyone was trying to persecute her sons and they > were good boys. Although Ma Barker was never arrested for a crime, > she was the primary lead in planning and executing the bank > robberies. She at one time kidnapped a wealthy St. Paul brewer, > William A. Hamm, and collected $100,000 for his release. They had four sons. > >Herman H. Barker b. 30 Oct 1893 MO, d. 29 Aug 1927 Wichita, Kansas >He married a Carol from Batesville AR, but they had no children. >After robbing several banks and killing a police officer, he >committed suicide in Wichita Kansas. "Ma" always said the police executed him. > >Lloyd William Barker b. 16 Mar 1897, Lawrence, MO, d. 18 Mar 1949 >Westminster, CO. He and his wife Jean (NY City) lived together as >common law husband and wife until about a month before his wife >killed him. They got married (Feb 1949). They had two children >Eileen and Michael, I believe both may still be living. These were >the only grand children of George and Arizona Barker. Lloyd robbed a >bank in Kansas in 1922, was sent to Leavenworth Kansas Prison for 25 years. > >Arthur Raymond "Dock" Barker b. 4 Jun 1899, Lawrence, MO. d. 13 Jan >1939 Alcatraz CA. "DocK" started out by stealing a Government car in >1918, and murdered a night watchman in Tulsa, for which he got 25 >years. He was paroled in 1932. Was soon sent to Alcatraz for >kidnapping a MN banker, was given a life sentence. Arthur was killed >in 1939 while trying to escape Alcatraz. > >Frederick G. Barker b. 12 Dec 1901 Lawrence, MO. d. 16 Jan 1935 >Ocklawaha, Marion, FL. He robbed a bank in Wichita Kansas and was >paroled from prison in 1931. With police hot on his trail for other >crimes, Fred and his mother "Ma" fled to Oklawaha, Marion, FL, where >in a 45 minute gun fight with the FBI, both Fred and Ma were killed. > > George Barker, the father, had become disenchanted with his > family and in 1928 he separated from "Ma". He moved to Webb City, > MO. and ran a filling station until near his death in 1941. > >A very interesting study with history like the James and Dalton Family. > >Don

A recent request by some of the Barker family members asked me to see if they were related to the Bloody Barker Gang. I did not find any ties to local Barkers but will put a bit of the information just in case some one else would like to take a look. Elias Barker b. ca 1802 KY, d. Aft 1870 ,Laclede, Missouri Sarah Dennis b. ca 1825 KY, d. ca 1865 ,Laclede, Missouri Son John Barker b. 8 Sep 1837 MO, d. 8 Oct 1913 ,Stone, Missouri Elivra Adaline McDowell b. 12 Oct 1838 KY, d. 24 Mar 1911 Son George Elias Barker b. ca 1858 ,Laclede, MO d. 28 Feb 1941 Joplin, Jasper, MO. 1st m.17 Sep 1877 Angeline Campbell 2nd m. Arizona Donnia "Ma" "Kate" "Arrie" Clark b. 8 Oct 1873 ,Greene, MO. d. 16 Jan 1935 Ocklawaha, Marion, Florida George Elias Barker always seemed to be a hard working honest and worthwhile citizen, held regular jobs for all his life, never seemed to have been involved with his wife and the four sons crimes. His answer was always that "Ma" handled the boys. "Ma" always said that everyone was trying to persecute her sons and they were good boys. Although Ma Barker was never arrested for a crime, she was the primary lead in planning and executing the bank robberies. She at one time kidnapped a wealthy St. Paul brewer, William A. Hamm, and collected $100,000 for his release. They had four sons. Herman H. Barker b. 30 Oct 1893 MO, d. 29 Aug 1927 Wichita, Kansas He married a Carol from Batesville AR, but they had no children. After robbing several banks and killing a police officer, he committed suicide in Wichita Kansas. "Ma" always said the police executed him. Lloyd William Barker b. 16 Mar 1897, Lawrence, MO, d. 18 Mar 1949 Westminster, CO. He and his wife Jean (NY City) lived together as common law husband and wife until about a month before his wife killed him. They got married (Feb 1949). They had two children Eileen and Michael, I believe both may still be living. These were the only grand children of George and Arizona Barker. Lloyd robbed a bank in Kansas in 1922, was sent to Leavenworth Kansas Prison for 25 years. Arthur Raymond "Dock" Barker b. 4 Jun 1899, Lawrence, MO. d. 13 Jan 1939 Alcatraz CA. "DocK" started out by stealing a Government car in 1918, and murdered a night watchman in Tulsa, for which he got 25 years. He was paroled in 1932. Was soon sent to Alcatraz for kidnapping a MN banker, was given a life sentence. Arthur was killed in 1939 while trying to escape Alcatraz. Frederick G. Barker b. 12 Dec 1901 Lawrence, MO. d. 16 Jan 1935 Ocklawaha, Marion, FL. He robbed a bank in Wichita Kansas and was paroled from prison in 1931. With police hot on his trail for other crimes, Fred and his mother "Ma" fled to Oklawaha, Marion, FL, where in a 45 minute gun fight with the FBI, both Fred and Ma were killed. George Barker, the father, had become disenchanted with his family and in 1928 he separated from "Ma". He moved to Webb City, MO. and ran a filling station until near his death in 1941. A very interesting study with history like the James and Dalton Family. Don

Ancestry.com putting these on their website, free from today until Sunday, from 1805-1866. Approx. 15000 letters. Thought some of you might like to ck them out. gen

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Reeves" <velane@centurytel.net> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help- Burge > Thanks for your help, I'll pass it on to the researcher. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <roy.mcguire@cox.net> > To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help- Burge > > >> >> >> Here the information I have on the Burge's, hope it helps. They'er in my >> Jones family in Independence and Sharp Countys >> >> >> Descendants of Marion M. Burge >> >> >> Generation No. 1 >> >> 1. MARION M.2 BURGE (ANDERSON1) was born August 07, 1844 in Marshall >> County, Mississippi, and died February 25, 1910 in Batesville, >> Independence County, Arkansas. He married MARY JANE P. JONES January 16, >> 1868 in Independence County, Arkansas, daughter of NATHANIEL JONES and >> MARY JONES. She was born August 11, 1851 in Kentucky, and died November >> 25, 1933 in Blytheville, Mississippi County, Arkansas. >> >> Notes for MARY JANE P. JONES: >> 1860 Census Arkansas, Independence County, Barren Township - Living with >> parents, Nathaniel P. and Mary Jones - Age 9 >> >> Children of MARION BURGE and MARY JONES are: >> i. RUELL T.3 BURGE, b. June 22, 1869. >> ii. H. GIDEON BURGE, b. December 05, 1871. >> iii. MARION M. BURGE, b. March 22, 1874. >> iv. JOHN HUBERT BURGE, b. March 02, 1876. >> v. ARMINTIA MARGARET BURGE, b. February 17, 1879. >> vi. MORDICAI G. BURGE, b. May 06, 1881. >> vii. SILAS JASPER BURGE, b. December 10, 1883. >> viii. BARAK BURGE, b. October 29, 1886. >> ix. GRANVILLE BURGE, b. February 19, 1889. >> x. CECIL CALVERT BURGE, b. January 10, 1892. >> xi. GROVER CLEVELAND BURGE, b. March 05, 1893. >> xii. EMMA MYRTLE BURGE, b. June 14, 1895. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- Harold Blevins <hrblevins@knology.net> wrote: >> >> ============= >> Here is some information from the 1930 census, don't know if it helps >> much. >> It does give his first name, and her full name was apparently >> Henrietta....HRB >> >> 1930 United States Federal Census >> >> Name: Reuel T Burge >> Home in 1930: Barren Fork, Izard, Arkansas >> Age: 60 >> Estimated birth year: abt 1870 >> Birthplace: Arkansas >> Relation to Head of House: Head >> Spouse's name: Henrietta Burge >> Race: White >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Reuel T Burge 60 >> Henrietta Burge 60 >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Barren Fork, Izard, Arkansas; >> Roll: 73; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 3; Image: 947.0. >> >> >> >> >> >>> Does anyone know anything about Etta (Haney) Mansfield ? >>> Did she married a R. T. Burge after her divorce from John Franklin >>> Mansfield ? >>> >>> She seems to have been born between 1868 and 1872. >>> Not sure of place of birth, Arkansas or Missouri. >>> >>> There's an Etta R. Burge buried in the Barren Fork Cemetery but can't >>> find >>> anything to prove this is the correct Etta and don't know for sure is >>> she >>> married Burge >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3248 - Release Date: 11/10/10 01:34:00

Thanks for your help, I'll pass it on to the researcher. ----- Original Message ----- From: <roy.mcguire@cox.net> To: <arizard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help- Burge > > > Here the information I have on the Burge's, hope it helps. They'er in my > Jones family in Independence and Sharp Countys > > > Descendants of Marion M. Burge > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. MARION M.2 BURGE (ANDERSON1) was born August 07, 1844 in Marshall > County, Mississippi, and died February 25, 1910 in Batesville, > Independence County, Arkansas. He married MARY JANE P. JONES January 16, > 1868 in Independence County, Arkansas, daughter of NATHANIEL JONES and > MARY JONES. She was born August 11, 1851 in Kentucky, and died November > 25, 1933 in Blytheville, Mississippi County, Arkansas. > > Notes for MARY JANE P. JONES: > 1860 Census Arkansas, Independence County, Barren Township - Living with > parents, Nathaniel P. and Mary Jones - Age 9 > > Children of MARION BURGE and MARY JONES are: > i. RUELL T.3 BURGE, b. June 22, 1869. > ii. H. GIDEON BURGE, b. December 05, 1871. > iii. MARION M. BURGE, b. March 22, 1874. > iv. JOHN HUBERT BURGE, b. March 02, 1876. > v. ARMINTIA MARGARET BURGE, b. February 17, 1879. > vi. MORDICAI G. BURGE, b. May 06, 1881. > vii. SILAS JASPER BURGE, b. December 10, 1883. > viii. BARAK BURGE, b. October 29, 1886. > ix. GRANVILLE BURGE, b. February 19, 1889. > x. CECIL CALVERT BURGE, b. January 10, 1892. > xi. GROVER CLEVELAND BURGE, b. March 05, 1893. > xii. EMMA MYRTLE BURGE, b. June 14, 1895. > > > > > > > > > > > ---- Harold Blevins <hrblevins@knology.net> wrote: > > ============= > Here is some information from the 1930 census, don't know if it helps > much. > It does give his first name, and her full name was apparently > Henrietta....HRB > > 1930 United States Federal Census > > Name: Reuel T Burge > Home in 1930: Barren Fork, Izard, Arkansas > Age: 60 > Estimated birth year: abt 1870 > Birthplace: Arkansas > Relation to Head of House: Head > Spouse's name: Henrietta Burge > Race: White > Household Members: > Name Age > Reuel T Burge 60 > Henrietta Burge 60 > > Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Barren Fork, Izard, Arkansas; > Roll: 73; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 3; Image: 947.0. > > > > > >> Does anyone know anything about Etta (Haney) Mansfield ? >> Did she married a R. T. Burge after her divorce from John Franklin >> Mansfield ? >> >> She seems to have been born between 1868 and 1872. >> Not sure of place of birth, Arkansas or Missouri. >> >> There's an Etta R. Burge buried in the Barren Fork Cemetery but can't >> find >> anything to prove this is the correct Etta and don't know for sure is she >> married Burge >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARIZARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >