Tina: I appreciate everything you have tried to do. It is not your fault that some use a MAC and some use Netscape and others IE. That is not your problem. It is not possible for you to please everyone...and I don't think you should have to. It is enough to have a site that is best for IE or Netscape and to have a plain text site for ANYONE who has a problem. I think some of us are getting a little too fussy when the fact is that Tina is a VOLUNTEER. Just have a simple text index and another primary one. If someone wants to fuss, let THEM figure out what the problem is with THEIR computer and act accordingly. When I do web pages, I do them as simply as possible for that reason and because I don't want to have to worry about pleasing everyone. It cant be done anyway. R Jackson