Deborah et al Try Arkansas Department of Health Division of Vital Records 4815 West Markham Street, Slot 44 Little Rock, AR 72205-3867 and send $4.00 I sent for a death certificate dated 6 Dec 1941. They could not find any record. I hope this helps. Phil Di Matteo

I was upset quite a bit about the site also and especially since I (as a lot of others did) helped out quite a bit with typing and transcribing (fathers of the ridge for one). However, this site below by Bill Couch can get you to all but one county in AR and he has done a considerable amount of work over the years. Please give it a try. Please try this site: http://www.couchgenweb.com/arkansas/ RAGLADY@aol.com wrote : > > In a message dated 7/24/99 10:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pj@apex.net > writes:<< and I betta' that I am not alone..........pj >> > > PJ > > Here's another *affirmative* from someone who seldom ever speaks up on this > List. Since Michael was *offed*, I can't find a darn thing and nothing ever > looks new or inviting. And if I ever find my Haskins ties to Greene County, > then I'll gladly say good-bye to the ones in charge now. > > Gloria

PJ: I sent Michael several updates on cemetery listings which he always responded and amended promptly. I am unaware of the circumstances you're referencing. Please fill me in........Perhaps, I have missed some emails while away on research in NC. Doug Park, Editor The Parke Society Newsletter pj Thompson wrote: > I would like to put my two cents in about the society taking over from > Michael (who done an excellant job)......Michael was VERY helpful of > which all the list owners and coordinators should be.....I am one myself > of each of these.......I work very closely with our Genealogical > Society......we get along great!! > > I had bought the Greene County Cemetery books and other books from the > Society before the BIG TAKE OVER but that does not mean that I would buy > them now......In fact I would not buy and will not buy again from > them.......This is selfish, childish and done right rude to have done > what was done to Michael after all his great work...... > > I have MANY ties to Greene County, Arkansas but believe me a Society > like this one can ruin a person of wanting to do research in that > county......thank goodness most of mine was done long before, the old > fashion hard way........ > > I have been wanting to have my say about this for a long time but would > not start trouble......well it has been spoken of now so thank you for > the time and space that I have used to air my feelings on this > matter......and I betta' that I am not alone..........pj > > -- > Paula (pj) Howard Thompson pj@apex.net > Weakley Co, TN Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnweakle > Listmom of Weakley Co,Tn Rootsweb > Home Page http://www.apex.net/users/pj/mama.htm (Under Construction) > > My Surnames of Weakley County, Tennessee > McCLAIN JONES McCLURE MORRISON STARK/STARKS TIBBS JOHNSON KEMP > HART HOWARD HUNGERFORD ALDERDICE WILLIAMS > > "May we all search ours Roots to form the Branches of our Tree"

I would like to put my two cents in about the society taking over from Michael (who done an excellant job)......Michael was VERY helpful of which all the list owners and coordinators should be.....I am one myself of each of these.......I work very closely with our Genealogical Society......we get along great!! I had bought the Greene County Cemetery books and other books from the Society before the BIG TAKE OVER but that does not mean that I would buy them now......In fact I would not buy and will not buy again from them.......This is selfish, childish and done right rude to have done what was done to Michael after all his great work...... I have MANY ties to Greene County, Arkansas but believe me a Society like this one can ruin a person of wanting to do research in that county......thank goodness most of mine was done long before, the old fashion hard way........ I have been wanting to have my say about this for a long time but would not start trouble......well it has been spoken of now so thank you for the time and space that I have used to air my feelings on this matter......and I betta' that I am not alone..........pj -- Paula (pj) Howard Thompson pj@apex.net Weakley Co, TN Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnweakle Listmom of Weakley Co,Tn Rootsweb Home Page http://www.apex.net/users/pj/mama.htm (Under Construction) My Surnames of Weakley County, Tennessee McCLAIN JONES McCLURE MORRISON STARK/STARKS TIBBS JOHNSON KEMP HART HOWARD HUNGERFORD ALDERDICE WILLIAMS "May we all search ours Roots to form the Branches of our Tree"

Zekia Starr, The 1914-1923 Arkansas Death Index only lists one person with the spelling of COFFEL COFFEL, ELVIS L. 10/09/1922 JACKSON COUNTY The 1924-1933 Arkansas Death Index only lists one person with the spelling of COFFEL COFFEL, THELMA MAY 08/18/1931 CLAY COUNTY The 1934-1940 Arkansas Death Index DOES NOT list one person with the spelling of COFFEL------BUT does list one person with the spelling of COFFELL (TWO "L"'s) COFFELL, VEDAH I. 07/17/1936 CLAY COUNTY Each of the 3 Arkansas Death Index has several spellings of COFFELT, but none with the GIVEN names of JAMES HENRY OR MARY ELIZABETH "BETTY" There is one with the spelling of COFFELT------ COFFELT, MARYDECY 05/02/1916 BENTON COUNTY COFFEL OR COFFELT-------NONE LISTED FOR GREENE COUNTY. Sorry there are no matches, their deaths may not have been reported or recorded. Try the Funeral Homes in the area. Jay Yaerohs@aol.com

In a message dated 7/24/99 10:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pj@apex.net writes:<< and I betta' that I am not alone..........pj >> PJ Here's another *affirmative* from someone who seldom ever speaks up on this List. Since Michael was *offed*, I can't find a darn thing and nothing ever looks new or inviting. And if I ever find my Haskins ties to Greene County, then I'll gladly say good-bye to the ones in charge now. Gloria

I wholeheartedly agree!!! Greene County had an excellent sight for those of us who can't make it back to Arkansas (I'm in Ohio), and since they wanted info off the site, it leaves much to be desired with all the fancy wallpaper which makes it so hard to read. I have emailed the people running the site now and explained I understood how hard it must be to reconstruct, but please don't use such "active, dark wallpaper as it is so hard to read. I'm so thankful I printed the full cemetery listings off when Michael was running the site. I have an aunt in MO who is helping me now and she wanted access to records and I was able to get them to her since she can't get online now and get them. Hope you shared the email with the Greene County Gene. Society!!! Thanks for your input. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Dickinson <jdickens@tcac.net> To: <ARGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:45 PM Subject: Why Should Gene. Societies Give Info Away? > This was in a recent newsletter from Rootsweb. It would be > interesting for Greene Co Gene Soc. to read it.--Cindy > > > WHY SHOULD A GENEALOGY SOCIETY GIVE RECORDS > AWAY? > > by Jeffrey A. Bockman, M.B.A. <jeffb@anet-chi.com> > <http://www.anet-chi.com/~jeffb/index.html> > > [Jeffrey Bockman is the president of the DuPage County (Illinois) > Genealogical Society. This article was originally published in > the FGS FORUM, Winter 1997, page 25, and is reprinted here with > the author's kind permission.] > > There is a vast amount of family history currently available on > the Internet and on CDROM that is incorrect, undocumented, or > fictitious. Yet, with the growing interest in family history > many searchers will stop with these easy-to-find "instant > families." David E. Rencher stated in "Where In Cyberspace Are > We?" (FORUM 9:2 (Summer 1997) page 3), that presently the > Internet offers a search environment but "the field of > electronic genealogy . . . has yet to create a research > environment." > > Genealogy societies should be leading the way in creating a > research environment by providing information so that verifying > an "instant family" is as convenient as finding the family in > the first place. But how? One way in which societies can help to > create a research environment is to rethink traditional ways of > distributing and sharing the information that they compile. The > traditional method of sharing is to publish and the process is: > > 1. Compile information from vital records, cemeteries, ledger > books, and other sources, and enter into a word or data > processing program; then format and proofread. > > 2. Take the manuscript to a printer and have it published. > > 3. Store, advertise, and hopefully sell the resulting publication. > > A closer look at this process shows while step 1 is critical in > getting the information in a form that can be shared with others, > the dissemination, steps 2 and 3, is open to question. Step 2 > benefits a printer/publisher while step 3 benefits a society -- > but only if sales are good and income exceeds expenses. > > This traditional procedure has other flaws. First, distribution > potential is limited. A user benefits if he or she can find the > publication, but it may only be available from the society by > mail or at local workshops. If it is advertised in national > genealogical publications, it competes with hundreds, perhaps > thousands of similar titles. Even library use is limited: users > may find the book only in a local, regional or national library > which specializes in genealogy. Thus, a researcher could spend > more time and money trying to locate the information than in > actually using the information. The market is limited, too. Few > people want to purchase a publication to look up only one or two > events. They have other options. They can ask the county clerk > or the cemetery office to find one or two entries. Or, they may > write to the genealogical society who offers searches as a > courtesy or for a slight fee. > > A third drawback is the risk involved. The society takes all of > the risk. It has to determine print quantity based upon printer > volume costs, anticipated demand, and storage facilities. The > society must advertise and give free copies to some libraries > or for book reviews. Society volunteers must retrieve books from > storage, haul, unpack, and display them at conferences, then box > and return unsold books to storage. If publishing, storage and > advertising costs, and the wear and tear on volunteers exceed > profits, the risk has been too great. > > This traditional distribution channel, with its flaws, should > cause societies to reexamine their ultimate goal in compiling > and distributing information. If society goals are > (a) to preserve and make available genealogical information; > (b) to promote an interest in genealogy; and > (c) to encourage proper research techniques; there may be a > better way to achieve them. > > The target audience for the dissemination of information in > published form is comprised of the society's members, people > doing research in the jurisdiction, and patrons of selected > libraries. This is really a very small audience. If a society > seeks to share information with the widest possible audience, > why not share with everybody? The Internet is the new > communications frontier. Anyplace in the world is only > nanoseconds away. If every society and county government put > its records online a researcher who only needs information about > a single event would be able look it up from home or the local > library with Internet access or at an "Internet coffee shop." > Ideally, if the person found the desired event from a detailed > online index, he could order a copy of the certified record by > entering credit card information or obtaining an invoice > number. . . > > While many societies are beginning to discuss this issue they > look at it from a personal or society viewpoint rather than from > a global viewpoint. Instead, consider a wider range of benefits: > > Government Agencies: > o Time savings from not having to look in book indexes. > o Faster access by using the electronic index. > o Only activity would be with paid certificate requests. > o Possibly less floor space needed for index storage and access. > > Genealogical Society > o No financial risk from over-printing. > o No handling and storage, save time and costs. > o Less income but less need to purchase other indexes. > o Improved recognition and wider audience with home page link. > o Requests for hard copy can be automated and printed on > demand. > > Global Audience > o Faster, easier access to useful research without leaving home. > o Eliminates need to review online library catalogs trying to > find the closest copy of a printed index. > o Information could be annotated to show corrections and source. > > Members > o Attend sessions and socialize rather than sitting in a hallway > selling books. > o Reduce wait for replies and save the cost of SASEs. > o Achieve immediate action and results on new clues or ideas. > o Could actually spend time doing research on their own family. > > If one of the purposes of a genealogical society is to help make > information readily available then what better method is there? > Societies are nonprofit organizations. What money they do realize > from publication sales often goes to purchase other publications > for the use of members. But there are other options. Money can be > earned through workshop, class, or lecture fees. Profits can be > used to disseminate information more widely: by providing > additional Internet resources, Internet access at the local > library or society library or office, or supporting the storage > and access cost of the county GenWeb site, a society home page, > or online vital record storage. > > Once a society is convinced of the benefits of this new and more > Effective way of disseminating information, it can start small > and work up to more ambitious projects: > > 1. Provide the following information on-line: > o Places to do research, hours and holdings. > o Handy guide to the type of historical information that is > available. > o Access instructions to vital records or the indexes. > o Queries. > > 2. Compile indexes and make them easily available. > > 3. Assist counties and repositories in getting images of the > actual records online with easy search and retrieval systems. > > If everyone would "do for others as you would like them to do for > you," we could all make electronic genealogy work for us. We > could be making verification of information now available in > Internet's search environment quick and easy. We could be > establishing research environments to complement and enhance > the > existing search environment, and we could be turning searchers > into researchers. > > >

I too would like to comment on wallpaper. There are a lot of us "Colorblind" people that have a very difficult time seeing certain colors. I can't say all the colors here but each colorblind person has their own problem pulling these colors out of its cover. May l suggest those who program these web sites, the colors and background make a world of difference who sees what and when and where affects all viewers wheather colorblind or not. The builders of these web sites would be wise to look into finding a happy medium pattern so all can see their "ADS" and other goodies they have prepared for viewers. Thank you H. Bob Self

This was in a recent newsletter from Rootsweb. It would be interesting for Greene Co Gene Soc. to read it.--Cindy WHY SHOULD A GENEALOGY SOCIETY GIVE RECORDS AWAY? by Jeffrey A. Bockman, M.B.A. <jeffb@anet-chi.com> <http://www.anet-chi.com/~jeffb/index.html> [Jeffrey Bockman is the president of the DuPage County (Illinois) Genealogical Society. This article was originally published in the FGS FORUM, Winter 1997, page 25, and is reprinted here with the author's kind permission.] There is a vast amount of family history currently available on the Internet and on CDROM that is incorrect, undocumented, or fictitious. Yet, with the growing interest in family history many searchers will stop with these easy-to-find "instant families." David E. Rencher stated in "Where In Cyberspace Are We?" (FORUM 9:2 (Summer 1997) page 3), that presently the Internet offers a search environment but "the field of electronic genealogy . . . has yet to create a research environment." Genealogy societies should be leading the way in creating a research environment by providing information so that verifying an "instant family" is as convenient as finding the family in the first place. But how? One way in which societies can help to create a research environment is to rethink traditional ways of distributing and sharing the information that they compile. The traditional method of sharing is to publish and the process is: 1. Compile information from vital records, cemeteries, ledger books, and other sources, and enter into a word or data processing program; then format and proofread. 2. Take the manuscript to a printer and have it published. 3. Store, advertise, and hopefully sell the resulting publication. A closer look at this process shows while step 1 is critical in getting the information in a form that can be shared with others, the dissemination, steps 2 and 3, is open to question. Step 2 benefits a printer/publisher while step 3 benefits a society -- but only if sales are good and income exceeds expenses. This traditional procedure has other flaws. First, distribution potential is limited. A user benefits if he or she can find the publication, but it may only be available from the society by mail or at local workshops. If it is advertised in national genealogical publications, it competes with hundreds, perhaps thousands of similar titles. Even library use is limited: users may find the book only in a local, regional or national library which specializes in genealogy. Thus, a researcher could spend more time and money trying to locate the information than in actually using the information. The market is limited, too. Few people want to purchase a publication to look up only one or two events. They have other options. They can ask the county clerk or the cemetery office to find one or two entries. Or, they may write to the genealogical society who offers searches as a courtesy or for a slight fee. A third drawback is the risk involved. The society takes all of the risk. It has to determine print quantity based upon printer volume costs, anticipated demand, and storage facilities. The society must advertise and give free copies to some libraries or for book reviews. Society volunteers must retrieve books from storage, haul, unpack, and display them at conferences, then box and return unsold books to storage. If publishing, storage and advertising costs, and the wear and tear on volunteers exceed profits, the risk has been too great. This traditional distribution channel, with its flaws, should cause societies to reexamine their ultimate goal in compiling and distributing information. If society goals are (a) to preserve and make available genealogical information; (b) to promote an interest in genealogy; and (c) to encourage proper research techniques; there may be a better way to achieve them. The target audience for the dissemination of information in published form is comprised of the society's members, people doing research in the jurisdiction, and patrons of selected libraries. This is really a very small audience. If a society seeks to share information with the widest possible audience, why not share with everybody? The Internet is the new communications frontier. Anyplace in the world is only nanoseconds away. If every society and county government put its records online a researcher who only needs information about a single event would be able look it up from home or the local library with Internet access or at an "Internet coffee shop." Ideally, if the person found the desired event from a detailed online index, he could order a copy of the certified record by entering credit card information or obtaining an invoice number. . . While many societies are beginning to discuss this issue they look at it from a personal or society viewpoint rather than from a global viewpoint. Instead, consider a wider range of benefits: Government Agencies: o Time savings from not having to look in book indexes. o Faster access by using the electronic index. o Only activity would be with paid certificate requests. o Possibly less floor space needed for index storage and access. Genealogical Society o No financial risk from over-printing. o No handling and storage, save time and costs. o Less income but less need to purchase other indexes. o Improved recognition and wider audience with home page link. o Requests for hard copy can be automated and printed on demand. Global Audience o Faster, easier access to useful research without leaving home. o Eliminates need to review online library catalogs trying to find the closest copy of a printed index. o Information could be annotated to show corrections and source. Members o Attend sessions and socialize rather than sitting in a hallway selling books. o Reduce wait for replies and save the cost of SASEs. o Achieve immediate action and results on new clues or ideas. o Could actually spend time doing research on their own family. If one of the purposes of a genealogical society is to help make information readily available then what better method is there? Societies are nonprofit organizations. What money they do realize from publication sales often goes to purchase other publications for the use of members. But there are other options. Money can be earned through workshop, class, or lecture fees. Profits can be used to disseminate information more widely: by providing additional Internet resources, Internet access at the local library or society library or office, or supporting the storage and access cost of the county GenWeb site, a society home page, or online vital record storage. Once a society is convinced of the benefits of this new and more Effective way of disseminating information, it can start small and work up to more ambitious projects: 1. Provide the following information on-line: o Places to do research, hours and holdings. o Handy guide to the type of historical information that is available. o Access instructions to vital records or the indexes. o Queries. 2. Compile indexes and make them easily available. 3. Assist counties and repositories in getting images of the actual records online with easy search and retrieval systems. If everyone would "do for others as you would like them to do for you," we could all make electronic genealogy work for us. We could be making verification of information now available in Internet's search environment quick and easy. We could be establishing research environments to complement and enhance the existing search environment, and we could be turning searchers into researchers.

For Arkansas deaths from 1914 (when the state vital records office opened) to 1940, see: Author: Allen, Desmond Walls. Title: Arkansas death record index / prepared for publication by Desmond Walls Allen. Publisher: Conway, AR : Arkansas Research, c1996- Description: Book v. ; 28 cm Contents: [v.1] 1914-1923 -- [v.2] 1924-1933-- [v.3] 1934-1940 Notes: "[These volumes] contain indexes to the death records filed with the Arkansas State Department of Health ..."--Introd. ISBN: 1565460782 ([v. 1]) 1565460944 ([v. 2]) 1565460863 ([v. 3]) OCLC: (OCoLC)38010073

Dee, Could you please find a death record in the Greene Co. death index you have for JAMES "HENRY" COFFEL and MARY ELIZABETH "BETTY" COFFEL?. She must have died around 1900 - 1920. He must have died around 1920 - 1940. My best guess on the dates. I believe their child (Leller) and a grandchild (Nolan) were buried (1904 & 1905) at Wise Cemetery. Thanks so much. Zelda. born in AR, lives in IL jimzelda@apci.net

Hi all, Actually the Greene County library had three volumes from Little Rock, which list all the existing death records up to (I think) 1920 or so, and they have microfiche up until about 1950. So if there is a death cert. to be had, it could be looked up at the library. I would be glad to do it, but I will not have any time for the next week and a half. I am working full days and don't get off until 7 pm and the library is closed. Next Fri. I should be off (but who knows). I don't mind if no one is in a big rush. However, you could probably put in a phone call to the library and one of the genealogy helpers would look it up for you also. Let me know. Carol

-- [ From: Dee Burr * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Hi, all, I have the AR Death Index books and have responded to Deborah with her information. Dee ------- FORWARD, Original message follows ------- > Date: Tuesday, 20-Jul-99 10:06 PM > > From: Carol Queen \ Internet: (postalq@grnco.net) > To: ARGREENE-L@rootsweb.com \ Internet: (argreene-l@rootsweb.com) > > Subject: ***Death Info Question**** > > Hi all, > Actually the Greene County library had three volumes from Little Rock , > which list all the existing death records up to (I think) 1920 or so, and they > have microfiche up until about 1950. So if there is a death cert. to be had, it > could be looked up at the library. > I would be glad to do it, but I will not have any time for the next week > and a half. I am working full days and don't get off until 7 pm and the library > is closed. Next Fri. I should be off (but who knows). I don't mind if no one is > in a big rush. However, you could probably put in a phone call to the library > and one of the genealogy helpers would look it up for you also. > Let me know. > Carol > ------- FORWARD, End of original message ------- --

Has anyone considered indexing obits from microfilms of the early newspapers in Greene County? That would seem like a very useful task. Carey -----Original Message----- From: R & D Walker <rdwalker@grnco.net> To: ARGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:00 PM Subject: Re: ***Death Info Question**** >Hi, Deborah, > >Theoretically, deaths in Arkansas occurring after 1920 were recorded and >death certificates should available in Little Rock. However, I have >learned that not all deaths were recorded even as late as the early 40's. >But, it's worth a try. The address for the Department of Vital Records can >be found at this site: > >http://vitalrec.com/ar.html > >Good luck. > >Debra > >

Hi, Deborah, Theoretically, deaths in Arkansas occurring after 1920 were recorded and death certificates should available in Little Rock. However, I have learned that not all deaths were recorded even as late as the early 40's. But, it's worth a try. The address for the Department of Vital Records can be found at this site: http://vitalrec.com/ar.html Good luck. Debra

****CRUTCHER****ARNOLD*******MCREYNOLDS*****KNOTT****** Hello members! This is my first time researching in Arkansas. My search has brought me to 216 Fifth Avenue, Paragould, Greene County. If anyone has the time , could you tell me what resources are available to pinpoint a date of death AFTER 1920 in Greene County or AR? (They were not found in the SSDI.) I am looking for the dates of death for: Harry S. CRUTHCER (born abt. 1875) and his wife Belle ARNOLD CRUTCHER (born abt. 1882) I last located this couple in the 1920 Greene County Census. Regards, Deborah The Peachtree State

Hello I need help again. I am trying to trace a grand Uncle Hugh Nelson/Nelson Hugh BOYKIN. He was born Aug 1866 in Gadsden, Madison Co., TN. Married first Elizabeth ? in 1891. They had 3 children born in AR; Agnes, Jay and Rubie alive in 1900. They lived in Gainesville and Paragould. Married second to Sarah D. in 1904. She may have been previously married to Cook or their child was Dick Cook Boykin. Sarah D. was born 1870 in AR based on 1910 Greene County census. Where is Elizabeth buried? Where did they go when they left Greene Co? He was listed as a teamster/logger. Any information will be appreciated. Phil Di Matteo

I'm new to research in Greene Co. What cemetery books are available? Is there a Mars Hill Cemetery in Greene Co.? If there is, would someone be willing to do a look up for me? I am tracing the HARDIN surname and have info that some may be buried there. Thanks, Laurel Crook llcrook@fhu.edu http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/7730 <snip> Does someone have the cemetery books that could/would do 2 lookups for me? <snip> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

> I need the birth/death date for Minnie Rogers Scott who is > buried at Browns Chapel. Carey, here she is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~argreene/brothrub.htm > Didn't the cemetery records used to be on the county > web site? Are is that a figment of my imagination?< Yes, they did. Try the library page: http://170.94.178.70/brown/lookups.htm > Carey Rogers< Good luck! Donna Gist Moore

Does someone have the cemetery books that could/would do 2 lookups for me? I need the birth/death date for Minnie Rogers Scott who is buried at Browns Chapel. I am also looking for the burial site and dates of Emma Sutfin and/or Garland Sutfin. Didn't the cemetery records used to be on the county web site? Are is that a figment of my imagination? Carey Rogers