Morn-in Dale Thanks a bunch I don't know why but for some reason we had Daniel Tipton WISEMAN in our tree both as Daniel Tipton and also as just Tipton I could never place Daniel Tipton with family. :-\ . For some reason when you sent this chart and with the other infomation coming from Johnny at lyngar@indco.net , Jim Skaggs at JDSshipbld@cs.com , Fern Estes at earlfernestes@centurytel.net , Vera Reeves at velane@centurytel.net , Ruth Ann Davis at radavis@nehp.net ( Hope I did not miss someone ) I saw that they were one and the same. Merged them in the tree and guess what. Did the lightes come on for this family. Some day with all the help we have gathered on the WISEMAN Surname Looking for GGandma Sophronia's Family the lightes will come on for her. I told Judy today that if I did'nt kick the bucket first I was going to find her bunch. She told me if I did, all I would have to do then was ask her. :-) Thanks again to all for your time and help and Vera a special thanks to you for all the time and help you give to every one Jim and Judy ( Shuck ) Montgomery JIM M. Dale Marr wrote: >Ancestors of Daniel Tipton Wiseman, Sr. > > > > >