Morn-in Jim S. Sorry to be so long in getting back. Jim I see what you mean as to Joseph being in two different generations in your tree. I agree that is the thing giving us problems. Jim, I am sending a outline of what we have on Glover Davenport WISEMAN family. I see some other difference in our tree also for you to compare. But Jim what ever you do, DO NOT TAKE OURS AS THE LAW. I am also sending it to the lists for their info and comments. You would not have ran across Davenport Wiseman and a Matilda. We have found them in the 1850 Fulton Co., AR -- Union Twp. -- 14 Oct 1850 -- p. 158 Davenport WISEMAN 25 Tennessee Matilda 26 Alabama We have not found any more on them any where in our looking for Grandmaw Sophronia. Keep thinking this could be a connection. Would be about the right age. Jim you can find our tree at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pabst2 It would have a lot more of our notes we have gotten together that would have been to big to put to the list. Happy to share any and all we have with any one. Looking for any back up info we can get. Thanks for getting with us Happy hunt-in Turkey Day Jim and Judy ( SHUCK ) MONTGOMERY JIM M Descendants of Glover Davenport Wiseman By Jima nd Judy ( SHUCK ) MONTGOMERY 22 November 2005 1 Glover Davenport WISEMAN Born: Abt. 1795 in Burke County, North Carolina Died: Unknown . +Martha MOORE Born: Unknown Died: Unknown Married: February 10, 1813 in Carter County, Tennessee ....... 2 Absolom ( Absoloman ) WISEMAN Source: Family information for Absolom and Nancy Wiseman, their children and grandchildren, taken from the ARIZARD-L@rootsweb.com mailing list via T. Harper and T.HARPER@prodigy.net. Date sent to list October 10, 1999 and date entered into tree July 22, 2001. Born: 1813 in Blount County, Tennessee Died: Bet. 1853 - 1860 in Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas .......... +Nancy DAVIS Born: Abt. 1811 in Tennessee Married: September 21, 1831 in Blount County, Tennessee ................ 3 Matthew WISEMAN Born: 1834 in Warren County, Tennessee ? ................ 3 Henry WISEMAN Born: 1836 in Tennessee ................ 3 John Calvin WISEMAN Born: Abt. 1844 in Madison County, Arkansas ................ 3 Thomas H. WISEMAN Born: Abt. 1846 in Madison County, Arkansas ................ 3 William D. WISEMAN Born: Abt. 1848 in Madison County, Arkansas Died: Bet. 1850 - 1860 ................ 3 Levi (Lee) Bolin WISEMAN Source: Some of the info for Levi Bolin and Family from Pattie at paddioo@netscape.net Born: February 02, 1851 in Arkansas Died: May 08, 1927 in Izard County, Arkansas Burial: Wiseman Cemetery, Izard County, Arkansas ................... +Laura Ann Haily / HALEY Born: February 1855 in Tennessee Source: 1900 Izard County, Arkansas census Died: May 27, 1902 in Summit, Marion County, Arkansas Married: Abt. 1869 Source: 1900 Izard county census Burial: Mountian View Cemetery, Summit, Marion County, Arkansas Source: Info of burial place from E-Mail of Sharron Scott SMSSSCOTT@aol.com dated 19 December 2002 ................ 3 Loura WISEMAN Born: Abt. 1854 in Arkansas ....... 2 Thomas Hampton WISEMAN, Sr Source: Information for Thomas Wiseman and family taken from Family Tree Maker CD11 Tree # 541 submitted by L.G. Maude LGMaude@aol.com and from the 1860 Fulton County, Arkansas Census. Born 1: February 18, 1821 in Blount County, Tennessee Born 2: February 18, 1821 Died: January 02, 1870 in Izard County, Arkansas Burial: Wiseman Cemetery, Wiseman, IZard County Arkansas Source: Burial info for Thomas Hampton Wiseman Sn. from Dale Marr .......... +Mary Elizabeth (Aunt Polly ) ISENHOWER Born 1: March 19, 1829 in North Carolina Born 2: March 19, 1829 Died: July 26, 1910 in Izard County, Arkansas Married: Abt. 1845 Source: Marrige date for Thomas and Mary from Jim S. at JDSshipbid@cs.com ................ 3 John William WISEMAN Born: December 06, 1847 in Izard County, Arkansas Died: January 07, 1938 in Bull Pen, Aka Deal Ranch, Near Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas Burial: Wisemen Cemetery, Izard County, Wiseman , Arkansas ................... +Elgiva GLEGHORN Born: April 1846 in Tennessee Died: December 01, 1873 in Izard County, Arkansas Married: 1868 in Izard, County, Arkansas Source: Marriage info for John and Elgiva ( Gleghorn ) Wiseman from Sharon Lawson 25 July 2001 and Family Tree Maker CD volune #11 Tree 541 ................ *2nd Wife of John William WISEMAN: ................... +Malinda Florence " Soppie " HAILEY Born: March 14, 1858 Died: September 11, 1895 in Izard County, Arkansas Married: Aft. 1873 ................ 3 Amanda Jane WISEMAN Born: June 1851 in Izard County, Arkansas Died: 1872 Burial: Wiseman Cemetery, Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas ................... +[1] Thomas Calvin (Callie) (T. C.) GAULT Born: June 22, 1845 in Tennessee Died: March 12, 1901 Married: Abt. 1870 Burial: Humphries / /Montgomery Cemetery, Fulton County Arkansas ................ 3 Thomas Hampton WISEMAN, Jr Born: September 15, 1854 in Izard County, Arkansas Died: January 27, 1907 in Arkansas ................... +Sarah ANNABELLE Born: October 16, 1855 in Kentucky Died: April 16, 1899 Married: in Before 1881 ................ *2nd Wife of Thomas Hampton WISEMAN, Jr: ................... +Cora JACOBS Born: January 1869 in Arkansas Died: 1957 Married: March 01, 1900 in Fulton County, Arkansas Source: Marriage info for T. H. and Cora ( Jacobs ) Wiseman from Independence County, Arkansas marriage records sent by E-Mial of Janet monkey@getgoin.net 18 December 2002 ................ 3 Martha C. WISEMAN Born: March 19, 1856 Died: December 18, 1923 in Izard County, Arkansas Burial: Humphries / /Montgomery Cemetery, Fulton County Arkansas ................... +[1] Thomas Calvin (Callie) (T. C.) GAULT Born: June 22, 1845 in Tennessee Died: March 12, 1901 Married: Abt. 1881 Burial: Humphries / /Montgomery Cemetery, Fulton County Arkansas ................ 3 Joseph Martin WISEMAN Born: September 22, 1857 in Izard County, Arkansas Died: September 02, 1887 in Izard County, Arkansas ................... +Edith Alice COOK Born: September 18, 1862 in Arkansas Died: May 11, 1891 ................ 3 James " Jim " Knox Polk WISEMAN Born: November 22, 1862 in Izard County, Arkansas Died: December 25, 1926 in Probably Izard County, Arkansas Burial: Wiseman Cemetery, Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas ................... +Nancy Emma RICHARDSON Born: March 26, 1873 in Arkansas Died: July 14, 1935 in Wiseman Cemetery, Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas Married: November 16, 1893 Burial: Wiseman Cemetery, Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas ................ 3 Edmond Rhea "Uncle Doc" WISEMAN Born: February 28, 1864 in Near Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas Died: September 1939 in Jefferson, Marion County, Texas Burial: Rose Lawn Cemetery, Calico Rock, Arkansas ................... +Mattie Belle CULP Born: 1871 in Izard County, Arkansas Source: Izard County as place of berth in Arkansas for Mattie Belle Culp from Jim S. at JDSshipbid@cs.com dated 18 November 2005 Died: 1911 in Kansas City, Jackson County, Missiouri Married: February 12, 1891 in Fulton County, Arkansas Source: Marriage info from Independence County, Arkansas marriage records sent by E-Mail of Janet monkey@getgoin.net 18 December 2002 Burial: Riverside Cemetery, Fulton County, Arkansas ................ 3 Daniel Tipton (Tip) WISEMAN, Sr Born 1: October 18, 1867 in Wiseman, Izard County, Arkansas Born 2: October 18, 1867 Died 1: June 08, 1962 in Izard County, Arkansas Died 2: June 08, 1962 Burial: Roselawn Cemetery, Calico Rock, Arkansas ................... +Martha Belle (Mattie) STUART Source: Some of the info for Martha Belle from Mary Clegg at Mary" <maryclegg@verizon.net dated 31 August 2005 Born 1: October 09, 1877 in Marston, Arkansas Born 2: October 09, 1877 Died 1: August 11, 1968 Died 2: June 08, 1962 Married 1: May 22, 1897 in Fulton County, Arkansas Married 2: May 22, 1897 in Fulton County, Arkansas Burial: Roselawn Cemetery, Calico Rock, Arkansas ....... 2 William Daveport WISEMAN Died: Unknown ....... 2 Davenport Glover WISEMAN Born: Abt. 1825 in Burke County ( now Avery County), North Carolina .......... +Matilda X. Born: Abt. 1824 in Alabama ....... 2 Mollie Davenport WISEMAN Born: Unknown Died: Unknown .......... +William BEARD Source: Info for William Beard from Gary Barr at q barr@con.net Born: Unknown Died: Unknown ....... 2 Nancy Davenport WISEMAN Born: Unknown Died: Unknown .......... +Stephen SMITH Source: Info for Stephen Smith from Gary Barr at q barr@con.net Born: Unknown Died: Unknown -------------- Original message -------------- Hi Again, I think I see my problem. I have a Joseph Martin (2nd generation) and a Joseph (in the 3rd generation ) that you say is Joseph Martin also. I think my error is I have Joseph Martin Wiseman & E. A. Unknown attached to the wrong generation Below is what I have. If you see any errors please let me know. Jim S Descendants of Glover Davenport Wiseman 1 Glover Davenport Wiseman b: Abt. 1789 ..+Martha Moore m: 10 Feb 1813 in Carter Co., TN . 2 Absolom Wiseman b: 1813 in Blount Co., TN d: Bet. 1852 - 1860 ..... +Nancy Davis b: Abt. 1811 in TN m: 21 Sep 1831 in Blount Co., TN ..... 3 Matthew Wiseman ..... 3 Henry Wiseman ..... 3 John C. Wiseman b: Abt. 1844 ..... 3 Thomas H. Wiseman b: Abt. 1847 ..... 3 Levi Bolin Wiseman b: Feb 1851 in AR d: 08 May 1927 in Izard Co., AR Burial Place: AR, Izard Co., Wiseman, Wiseman Cem ......... +Laura Ann Hailey b: Feb 1855 in TN d: 27 May 1902 in Summit, Marion Co., AR m: 1869 Burial Place: AR, Marion Co., Summit, Mt View Cem . 2 Thomas Hampton Wiseman, Sr. b: 18 Feb 1821 in Blount Co., TN d: 02 Jan 1870 in Izard Co., AR Burial Place: AR, Izard Co., Wiseman, Wiseman Cem ..... +Mary Elizabeth "Polly" Isenhower b: 19 Mar 1829 in NC d: 26 Jul 1910 in Izard Co., AR m: Abt. 1845 ..... 3 John William Wiseman b: 06 Dec 1847 in Izard Co., AR d: 07 Jan 1938 in Wiseman, Izard Co., AR ......... +Elgiva Gleghorn b: Apr 1846 in TN d: 01 Dec 1873 in Izard Co., AR m: 1868 in Izard Co, AR ..... *2nd Wife of John William Wiseman: ......... +Malinda Florence "Soppie" Haley b: 14 Mar 1858 d: 11 Sep 1895 in Izard Co., AR m: Aft. 1873 ..... 3 Amanda Jane Wiseman b: Jun 1851 in AR d: 1872 Burial Place: AR, Izard Co., Wiseman, Wiseman Cem ......... +Thomas Calvin "Callie" Gault b: 22 Jan 1845 in TN d: 12 Mar 1941 Burial Place: AR, Fulton Co., , Humphreys Cem ..... 3 Thomas Hampton Wiseman, Jr. b: 15 Sep 1854 in AR d: 27 Jan 1907 in AR ......... +Sarah Annabella ? b: 16 Oct 1855 d: 16 Apr 1899 m: Bef. 1899 ..... *2nd Wife of Thomas Hampton Wiseman, Jr.: ......... +Cora Jacobs b: Jan 1869 d: 1957 m: 01 Mar 1900 in Fulton Co., AR ..... 3 Joseph Wiseman b: Abt. 1856 in AR d: 02 Sep 1887 in Izard Co., AR ......... +Edith Alice Cook b: 13 Sep 1862 in McCracken Co., KY d: Bef. 1929 ..... 3 James Wiseman b: Abt. 1859 in AR ..... 3 Edmond Rhea "Dock" Wiseman b: 1864 d: 1939 Burial Place: AR, Izard Co., Calico Rock, Roselawn Cem ......... +Mattie Bell Culp b: 1871 in Izard Co., AR d: 1911 m: 12 Feb 1891 in Fulton Co., AR ..... 3 Daniel Tipton Wiseman b: 18 Oct 1867 in AR d: 08 Jun 1962 in Izard Co., AR ......... +Martha Belle "Mattie" Stewart b: 09 Oct 1877 in AR d: 11 Aug 1968 m: 22 May 1897 in Fulton Co., AR . 2 Joseph Martin Wiseman b: 22 Sep 1857 in AR d: 02 Sep 1887 in Izard Co., AR ..... +E. A. ? b: 18 Sep 1862 d: 11 May 1891