Morn-in Jim First I want to let you know that I feel real bad for taking so long to get back to you on your E-Mail about comparing our info of the first 5 Generations of descendants of James Montgomery to the info you have. For the most parts we are not that far off the biggest thing I see is that we have a lot more info on the individuals than you have. I see that you have the Family Tree program we use it also. What I would like to do is make a disc copy of the info we have on the 5 generations and send it to you so you can use as you like. Would be glad to do. Would need your snail Addy. I am going to address our difference's in parts. The differences don't make ours the law. It is just what we think with the info we have come up with. Would like your feed back and any back up info you or others would like to share. I am going only to deal with James in this E-Mail by it being so long will send more later. I am going to send this to the list also. Maybe there will be someone that would like to jump in as Wilma and Vera would say. Jim and Judy ( Shuck ) Montgomery JIM M The first one is with the info of James himself. You and we both have the same info but something has to be wrong. Up until you asked for us to compare we had not compared the info we had gotten over the years. We have Descendants of James Montgomery 1 James MONTGOMERY Source: Information about James Montgomery and his family sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr.,Wichita Falls, Texas 76310 on June 22, 1998. Born: April 07, 1790 in South Carolina Died: December 30, 1864 in Arkansas Burial: Humphries Cemetery, Fulton County, Arkansas . +ELIZABETH Born: December 11, 1782 Died: April 12, 1854 in Arkansas Married: Abt. 1818 Burial: Humphries Cemetery, Fulton County, Arkansas. We took from the stone James Montgomery, born April 7, 1793 died December 30, 1964, aged 71 Years, 8 months, 23 days. Would make the age right. Will have to recheck the dates next time we are back down home. Maybe some one will be in the area and will check for us. The dates we have in tree we think came from Information about James Montgomery sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr.,Wichita Falls, Texas 76310 on June 22, 1998. This would make his age 71 Mel Stephens years ago gave us James Montgomery April 07, 1790 -December 30, 1864. Makes age wrong Carroll Hayden in his survey has Montgomery, James age 71 years, 8 months, 23 days 07 April 1793 - 30 December 1864 Census information from 1850 Gaston County, NC James age 60. Makes him born 1790 1860 Fulton County Census compiled by Emma L. Adams, 2005 South 65, Fort Smith, Arkansas James MONTGOMERY 70 Makes him born 1790 Extension Homemakers Council dated 1999 Montgomery, James No death date - December 30, 1861 Grave 38G10. Makes him born 1790 BACK UP NOTES: James is found in a Survey of Izard County Arkansas cemeteries compiled by Carroll E Hayden. Humphries Cemetery. The cemetery is in Fulton County not Izard. Montgomery, James Age 71 years 8 months and 23 days. 7 April 1793 - 30 Dec 1864 When we were at the Humphries/Montgomery Cemetery in 1999 we had recorded James Montgomery born 7 April 1793 and died 30 December 1864, Aged 71 years, 8 Months and 23 days Next to James was Elizabeth Montgomery, died April 14, 1854 Aged 71 years and 1 month. James is found in a book called Cemeteries of Fulton County, Arkansas, Humphries Cemetery by The Extension Homemakers Council dated 1999 Montgomery, James No death date - December 30, 1861 Grave 38G10 In tree from Mel Stephens years ago James Montgomery April 07, 1790 -December 30, 1864. Makes age wrong In an excerpt from the "History of Prosperity Presbyterian Church", Fulton County, Arkansas sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr., Wichita Falls, Texas, 76310 and Robert King, there are a few paragraphs concerning James and his family. In December 1850, Mr. James Montgomery Sr. came from Pisgah Church, Gaston County, near Crowder Mountain, North Carolina, with his family consisting of his sons Joseph, James and William, and his daughter Hannah, his wife died some years after he came here. His son John and family also moving with him from the same place. His son Samuel Montgomery moved from the same place in the spring of 1854 with his family. James was found in the 1810 York County, SC census index via the internet. Census information from 1850 Gaston County, NC includes: Household #554 James age 60, Farmer, Elizabeth (57), Joseph (27), Samuel (25), Hannah (24), (which has to be wrong because she was born in 1830), James (21) and William (17). From an abstract from the 1850 Gaston County Agriculture Schedule: Name of owner, agent or manager of Farm: James Montgomery: Improved acres of land 100, unimproved acres of land 300, Cash value of farm $800.00, value of farming implements & machinery $200.00, horses 8, milk cows 10, other cattle 20, sheep 22, swine 30, value of livestock $690.00, bushels of wheat 150, bushels of indian corn 550, bushels of oats 250, lbs of wool 40, bushels of irish potatoes 8, bushels of sweet potatoes 100, lbs of butter 600, lbs of cheese 250, tons of hay 8, value of homemade manufactures $12.00, values of animals slaughtered $100.00. This was sent via email from Joyce Graham November 29, 1999. The following was taken and somewhat edited from a book called "They Sought a Land" A Settlement in the Arkansas River Valley 1840-1870 by William Oates Ragsdale Chapter 3, Page 34 (January 5, 2000 Judie Montgomery) In the 1840s a few people from the Pisgah Church in North Carolina went to Arkansas to look for new and better land in which to settle. The area they came from had become densely populated and the land infertile. They sent word back to North Carolina to encourage others to follow. In 1851 a mass migration began in earnest. The majority of these Presbyterians settled in Pope County. However, James Montgomery had, the previous year moved with his family to Fulton County. There were some folks holding back from moving. One such person was Alexander Weir. Letters had been written back and forth urging him to come to Pope County. Thomas Oates was quite persistent. At some point, Alexander started considering Fulton County as a possible place for a new settlement. It already had a growing Associate Reformed Presbyterian community. Thomas met that argument head-on, saying that Fulton County was a better place to be than Pope: "their may be very good land their, but uncle James Montgomery says that is not a good plase for a settlement. They have fine corn and wheat country but not so good for cotton and they are some forty miles from market." Form 1860 Fulton County Census compiled by Emma L. Adams, 2005 South 65, Fort Smith, Arkansas 113/37 James MONTGOMERY 70 M farmer SC James Jr 32 M farmer NC William 25 M farmer NC Hannah 26 F domestic NC A. W. COOK 27 M Farm Labor VA Hannah CARSON 15 F Domestic TN When Jim and I were in Fulton County October 1999, we went to the Humphries Cemetery to look for his ancestor's graves. We found James, (Jim's 3rd great grandfather) his wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth Hannah along with Samuel, (2nd great-grandfather) his wives, Mary and Sarah and his great grandmother Sophronia Davenport ( Wiseman ) Montgomery. While we were there a gentleman named G.T. Humphries approached us. He told us that his grandmother had bought part of the Montgomery land and that he was born in the log cabin where James built, lived and died of smallpox. The best thing is that it is still there! It had been added to during the years, but hasn't been lived in for quite awhile. You can see the logs where the later wall coverings had come away, and we were able to go up a narrow stairway to stand on the second floor. It is very solid still, and it made me teary-eyed to think that his ancestors lived, loved, laughed, worked and died on the land where we now stood. JUDIE

For whatever its worth:.... I have the" History of the Prosperity Church" Fulton Couty, Arkansas scanned into my computer, 49 pages of it. The original is in my home safe. It might take some time but if anyone wants to send me a mailing address I'll try to get you a copy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pabst" <pabst@btc-bci.com> To: <ARFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: [ARFULTON] James Montgomery Born 1790 or 1793 ??? Jim Shaggs - JIM M. > Morn-in Jim > First I want to let you know that I feel real bad for taking so long to > get back to you on your E-Mail about comparing our info of the first 5 > Generations of descendants of James Montgomery to the info you have. > For the most parts we are not that far off the biggest thing I see is > that we have a lot more info on the individuals than you have. > I see that you have the Family Tree program we use it also. What I > would like to do is make a disc copy of the info we have on the 5 > generations and send it to you so you can use as you like. Would be > glad to do. Would need your snail Addy. > I am going to address our difference's in parts. The differences > don't make ours the law. It is just what we think with the info we have > come up with. Would like your feed back and any back up info you or > others would like to share. I am going only to deal with James in this > E-Mail by it being so long will send more later. I am going to send this > to the list also. Maybe there will be someone that would like to jump in > as Wilma and Vera would say. > Jim and Judy ( Shuck ) Montgomery > JIM M > > The first one is with the info of James himself. You and we both > have the same info but something has to be wrong. Up until you asked > for us to compare we had not compared the info we had gotten over the years. > We have > Descendants of James Montgomery > > 1 James MONTGOMERY Source: Information about James Montgomery > and his family sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr.,Wichita > Falls, Texas 76310 on June 22, 1998. Born: April 07, 1790 in South > Carolina Died: December 30, 1864 in Arkansas Burial: > Humphries Cemetery, Fulton County, Arkansas > . +ELIZABETH Born: December 11, 1782 Died: April 12, > 1854 in Arkansas Married: Abt. 1818 Burial: Humphries Cemetery, > Fulton County, Arkansas. > > > > We took from the stone James Montgomery, born April 7, 1793 died > December 30, 1964, aged 71 Years, 8 months, 23 days. Would make the > age right. Will have to recheck the dates next time we are back down > home. Maybe some one will be in the area and will check for us. > > The dates we have in tree we think came from Information about James > Montgomery sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr.,Wichita > Falls, Texas 76310 on June 22, 1998. This would make his age 71 > > Mel Stephens years ago gave us James Montgomery April 07, 1790 -December > 30, 1864. Makes age wrong > > Carroll Hayden in his survey has Montgomery, James age 71 years, 8 > months, 23 days 07 April 1793 - 30 December 1864 > > Census information from 1850 Gaston County, NC James age 60. Makes him > born 1790 > > 1860 Fulton County Census compiled by Emma L. Adams, 2005 South 65, Fort > Smith, Arkansas James MONTGOMERY 70 Makes him born 1790 > > Extension Homemakers Council dated 1999 Montgomery, James No death date > - December 30, 1861 Grave 38G10. Makes him born 1790 > > BACK UP NOTES: > > James is found in a Survey of Izard County Arkansas cemeteries compiled > by Carroll E Hayden. Humphries Cemetery. The cemetery is in Fulton > County not Izard. > Montgomery, James Age 71 years 8 months and 23 days. 7 April 1793 - 30 > Dec 1864 > > When we were at the Humphries/Montgomery Cemetery in 1999 we had > recorded James Montgomery born 7 April 1793 and died 30 December 1864, > Aged 71 years, 8 Months and 23 days > Next to James was Elizabeth Montgomery, died April 14, 1854 Aged 71 > years and 1 month. > > James is found in a book called Cemeteries of Fulton County, Arkansas, > Humphries Cemetery by The Extension Homemakers Council dated 1999 > Montgomery, James No death date - December 30, 1861 Grave 38G10 > > In tree from Mel Stephens years ago James Montgomery April 07, 1790 > -December 30, 1864. Makes age wrong > > In an excerpt from the "History of Prosperity Presbyterian Church", > Fulton County, Arkansas sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr., > Wichita Falls, Texas, 76310 and Robert King, there are a few paragraphs > concerning James and his family. > > In December 1850, Mr. James Montgomery Sr. came from Pisgah Church, > Gaston County, near Crowder Mountain, North Carolina, with his family > consisting of his sons Joseph, James and William, and his daughter > Hannah, his wife died some years after he came here. His son John and > family also moving with him from the same place. His son Samuel > Montgomery moved from the same place in the spring of 1854 with his family. > > James was found in the 1810 York County, SC census index via the internet. > > Census information from 1850 Gaston County, NC includes: Household #554 > James age 60, Farmer, Elizabeth (57), Joseph (27), Samuel (25), Hannah > (24), (which has to be wrong because she was born in 1830), James (21) > and William (17). > > From an abstract from the 1850 Gaston County Agriculture Schedule: > Name of owner, agent or manager of Farm: James Montgomery: > Improved acres of land 100, unimproved acres of land 300, Cash value of > farm $800.00, value of farming implements & machinery $200.00, horses 8, > milk cows 10, other cattle 20, sheep 22, swine 30, value of livestock > $690.00, bushels of wheat 150, bushels of indian corn 550, bushels of > oats 250, lbs of wool 40, bushels of irish potatoes 8, bushels of sweet > potatoes 100, lbs of butter 600, lbs of cheese 250, tons of hay 8, value > of homemade manufactures $12.00, values of animals slaughtered $100.00. > > This was sent via email from Joyce Graham November 29, 1999. > > The following was taken and somewhat edited from a book called "They > Sought a Land" A Settlement in the Arkansas River Valley 1840-1870 by > William Oates Ragsdale Chapter 3, Page 34 (January 5, 2000 Judie > Montgomery) > > In the 1840s a few people from the Pisgah Church in North Carolina went > to Arkansas to look for new and better land in which to settle. The > area they came from had become densely populated and the land > infertile. They sent word back to North Carolina to encourage others to > follow. In 1851 a mass migration began in earnest. The majority of > these Presbyterians settled in Pope County. However, James Montgomery > had, the previous year moved with his family to Fulton County. > > There were some folks holding back from moving. One such person was > Alexander Weir. Letters had been written back and forth urging him to > come to Pope County. Thomas Oates was quite persistent. At some point, > Alexander started considering Fulton County as a possible place for a > new settlement. It already had a growing Associate Reformed > Presbyterian community. Thomas met that argument head-on, saying that > Fulton County was a better place to be than Pope: "their may be very > good land their, but uncle James Montgomery says that is not a good > plase for a settlement. They have fine corn and wheat country but not > so good for cotton and they are some forty miles from market." > > Form 1860 Fulton County Census compiled by Emma L. Adams, 2005 South 65, > Fort Smith, Arkansas > 113/37 James MONTGOMERY 70 M farmer SC > James Jr 32 M farmer NC > William 25 M farmer NC > Hannah 26 F domestic NC > A. W. COOK 27 M Farm Labor VA > Hannah CARSON 15 F Domestic TN > > When Jim and I were in Fulton County October 1999, we went to the > Humphries Cemetery to look for his ancestor's graves. We found James, > (Jim's 3rd great grandfather) his wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth > Hannah along with Samuel, (2nd great-grandfather) his wives, Mary and > Sarah and his great grandmother Sophronia Davenport ( Wiseman ) > Montgomery. While we were there a gentleman named G.T. Humphries > approached us. He told us that his grandmother had bought part of the > Montgomery land and that he was born in the log cabin where James built, > lived and died of smallpox. The best thing is that it is still there! > It had been added to during the years, but hasn't been lived in for > quite awhile. You can see the logs where the later wall coverings had > come away, and we were able to go up a narrow stairway to stand on the > second floor. It is very solid still, and it made me teary-eyed to > think that his ancestors lived, loved, laughed, worked and died on the > land where we now stood. > JUDIE > > > > > ==== ARFULTON Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Fulton Co., AR list, send only the word > UNUSBSCRIBE to ARFULTON-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to ARFULTON-d-request@rootsweb.com > Arkansas Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcemete/arcem.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi folks! The "History of the Prosperity Church' is also available as a series of TIF page images newly re-scanned at 300 dpi on my web site. See the URL below in my signature block. This higher resolution improves the readability, but a penalty will have to be paid in terms of the file sizes to be downloaded. -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 479-634-2086 InterNet: mailto:robert@wildweasel.net Web site: http://www.wildweasel.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Wilma King [mailto:wking@pokynet.com] Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:01 To: ARFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARFULTON] James Montgomery Born 1790 or 1793 ??? Jim Shaggs - JIM M. For whatever its worth:.... I have the" History of the Prosperity Church" Fulton Couty, Arkansas scanned into my computer, 49 pages of it. The original is in my home safe. It might take some time but if anyone wants to send me a mailing address I'll try to get you a copy.