I would be interested. Lee Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma King" <wking@pokynet.com> To: <ARFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [ARFULTON] James Montgomery Born 1790 or 1793 ??? Jim Shaggs - JIM M. > For whatever its worth:.... I have the" History of the Prosperity Church" > Fulton Couty, Arkansas scanned into my computer, 49 pages of it. The > original is in my home safe. It might take some time but if anyone wants > to send me a mailing address I'll try to get you a copy. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pabst" <pabst@btc-bci.com> > To: <ARFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:53 PM > Subject: [ARFULTON] James Montgomery Born 1790 or 1793 ??? Jim Shaggs - JIM > M. > > > > Morn-in Jim > > First I want to let you know that I feel real bad for taking so long to > > get back to you on your E-Mail about comparing our info of the first 5 > > Generations of descendants of James Montgomery to the info you have. > > For the most parts we are not that far off the biggest thing I see is > > that we have a lot more info on the individuals than you have. > > I see that you have the Family Tree program we use it also. What I > > would like to do is make a disc copy of the info we have on the 5 > > generations and send it to you so you can use as you like. Would be > > glad to do. Would need your snail Addy. > > I am going to address our difference's in parts. The differences > > don't make ours the law. It is just what we think with the info we have > > come up with. Would like your feed back and any back up info you or > > others would like to share. I am going only to deal with James in this > > E-Mail by it being so long will send more later. I am going to send this > > to the list also. Maybe there will be someone that would like to jump in > > as Wilma and Vera would say. > > Jim and Judy ( Shuck ) Montgomery > > JIM M > > > > The first one is with the info of James himself. You and we both > > have the same info but something has to be wrong. Up until you asked > > for us to compare we had not compared the info we had gotten over the > years. > > We have > > Descendants of James Montgomery > > > > 1 James MONTGOMERY Source: Information about James Montgomery > > and his family sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr.,Wichita > > Falls, Texas 76310 on June 22, 1998. Born: April 07, 1790 in South > > Carolina Died: December 30, 1864 in Arkansas Burial: > > Humphries Cemetery, Fulton County, Arkansas > > . +ELIZABETH Born: December 11, 1782 Died: April 12, > > 1854 in Arkansas Married: Abt. 1818 Burial: Humphries Cemetery, > > Fulton County, Arkansas. > > > > > > > > We took from the stone James Montgomery, born April 7, 1793 died > > December 30, 1964, aged 71 Years, 8 months, 23 days. Would make the > > age right. Will have to recheck the dates next time we are back down > > home. Maybe some one will be in the area and will check for us. > > > > The dates we have in tree we think came from Information about James > > Montgomery sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr.,Wichita > > Falls, Texas 76310 on June 22, 1998. This would make his age 71 > > > > Mel Stephens years ago gave us James Montgomery April 07, 1790 -December > > 30, 1864. Makes age wrong > > > > Carroll Hayden in his survey has Montgomery, James age 71 years, 8 > > months, 23 days 07 April 1793 - 30 December 1864 > > > > Census information from 1850 Gaston County, NC James age 60. Makes him > > born 1790 > > > > 1860 Fulton County Census compiled by Emma L. Adams, 2005 South 65, Fort > > Smith, Arkansas James MONTGOMERY 70 Makes him born 1790 > > > > Extension Homemakers Council dated 1999 Montgomery, James No death date > > - December 30, 1861 Grave 38G10. Makes him born 1790 > > > > BACK UP NOTES: > > > > James is found in a Survey of Izard County Arkansas cemeteries compiled > > by Carroll E Hayden. Humphries Cemetery. The cemetery is in Fulton > > County not Izard. > > Montgomery, James Age 71 years 8 months and 23 days. 7 April 1793 - 30 > > Dec 1864 > > > > When we were at the Humphries/Montgomery Cemetery in 1999 we had > > recorded James Montgomery born 7 April 1793 and died 30 December 1864, > > Aged 71 years, 8 Months and 23 days > > Next to James was Elizabeth Montgomery, died April 14, 1854 Aged 71 > > years and 1 month. > > > > James is found in a book called Cemeteries of Fulton County, Arkansas, > > Humphries Cemetery by The Extension Homemakers Council dated 1999 > > Montgomery, James No death date - December 30, 1861 Grave 38G10 > > > > In tree from Mel Stephens years ago James Montgomery April 07, 1790 > > -December 30, 1864. Makes age wrong > > > > In an excerpt from the "History of Prosperity Presbyterian Church", > > Fulton County, Arkansas sent by Barbara Davenport, 5320 Spindletree Dr., > > Wichita Falls, Texas, 76310 and Robert King, there are a few paragraphs > > concerning James and his family. > > > > In December 1850, Mr. James Montgomery Sr. came from Pisgah Church, > > Gaston County, near Crowder Mountain, North Carolina, with his family > > consisting of his sons Joseph, James and William, and his daughter > > Hannah, his wife died some years after he came here. His son John and > > family also moving with him from the same place. His son Samuel > > Montgomery moved from the same place in the spring of 1854 with his > family. > > > > James was found in the 1810 York County, SC census index via the internet. > > > > Census information from 1850 Gaston County, NC includes: Household #554 > > James age 60, Farmer, Elizabeth (57), Joseph (27), Samuel (25), Hannah > > (24), (which has to be wrong because she was born in 1830), James (21) > > and William (17). > > > > From an abstract from the 1850 Gaston County Agriculture Schedule: > > Name of owner, agent or manager of Farm: James Montgomery: > > Improved acres of land 100, unimproved acres of land 300, Cash value of > > farm $800.00, value of farming implements & machinery $200.00, horses 8, > > milk cows 10, other cattle 20, sheep 22, swine 30, value of livestock > > $690.00, bushels of wheat 150, bushels of indian corn 550, bushels of > > oats 250, lbs of wool 40, bushels of irish potatoes 8, bushels of sweet > > potatoes 100, lbs of butter 600, lbs of cheese 250, tons of hay 8, value > > of homemade manufactures $12.00, values of animals slaughtered $100.00. > > > > This was sent via email from Joyce Graham November 29, 1999. > > > > The following was taken and somewhat edited from a book called "They > > Sought a Land" A Settlement in the Arkansas River Valley 1840-1870 by > > William Oates Ragsdale Chapter 3, Page 34 (January 5, 2000 Judie > > Montgomery) > > > > In the 1840s a few people from the Pisgah Church in North Carolina went > > to Arkansas to look for new and better land in which to settle. The > > area they came from had become densely populated and the land > > infertile. They sent word back to North Carolina to encourage others to > > follow. In 1851 a mass migration began in earnest. The majority of > > these Presbyterians settled in Pope County. However, James Montgomery > > had, the previous year moved with his family to Fulton County. > > > > There were some folks holding back from moving. One such person was > > Alexander Weir. Letters had been written back and forth urging him to > > come to Pope County. Thomas Oates was quite persistent. At some point, > > Alexander started considering Fulton County as a possible place for a > > new settlement. It already had a growing Associate Reformed > > Presbyterian community. Thomas met that argument head-on, saying that > > Fulton County was a better place to be than Pope: "their may be very > > good land their, but uncle James Montgomery says that is not a good > > plase for a settlement. They have fine corn and wheat country but not > > so good for cotton and they are some forty miles from market." > > > > Form 1860 Fulton County Census compiled by Emma L. Adams, 2005 South 65, > > Fort Smith, Arkansas > > 113/37 James MONTGOMERY 70 M farmer SC > > James Jr 32 M farmer NC > > William 25 M farmer NC > > Hannah 26 F domestic NC > > A. W. COOK 27 M Farm Labor VA > > Hannah CARSON 15 F Domestic TN > > > > When Jim and I were in Fulton County October 1999, we went to the > > Humphries Cemetery to look for his ancestor's graves. We found James, > > (Jim's 3rd great grandfather) his wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth > > Hannah along with Samuel, (2nd great-grandfather) his wives, Mary and > > Sarah and his great grandmother Sophronia Davenport ( Wiseman ) > > Montgomery. While we were there a gentleman named G.T. Humphries > > approached us. He told us that his grandmother had bought part of the > > Montgomery land and that he was born in the log cabin where James built, > > lived and died of smallpox. The best thing is that it is still there! > > It had been added to during the years, but hasn't been lived in for > > quite awhile. You can see the logs where the later wall coverings had > > come away, and we were able to go up a narrow stairway to stand on the > > second floor. It is very solid still, and it made me teary-eyed to > > think that his ancestors lived, loved, laughed, worked and died on the > > land where we now stood. > > JUDIE > > > > > > > > > > ==== ARFULTON Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Fulton Co., AR list, send only the > word > > UNUSBSCRIBE to ARFULTON-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > > to ARFULTON-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Arkansas Cemeteries Volunteer Website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcemete/arcem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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