I don't know; neither does Olivia. Aunt Lura Grubbs m Mitchell Godwin. cf p 227 OTNF Yes, ARDrew still there but very little activity. You can access the archives to find stuff. Address above. Who was Olin Godwin? Was he not the husband of Loura Godwin? Or was he a son? Help me patch this together! Reference was made to him in Aunt Bennie's nurse story and I'm thinking he was kin somehow on the Aunt Lizzie Grubbs side. Does Ardrew still exist and some of the family stories still stored in that web site? If so, how do I access it? I was thinking I had posted the story about our Uncle Walter wishing his throat was a mile long after a swig of his homemade hard corn brew! Love ya, B -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. Start now!