Just awanted to thank Beth again for putting me in contact with Peggy Ahrens Geren. The Ahrens connection has helped- I found that mu husband's great grandmother's maiden name was Brence- not Siff. Also found that DA and Ella Trammell lived in Saline County before moving to Monticello. If anyone can help with this line I would appreciate it. I spoke with Maude Ahrens Carroll- who is the niece of my husband's grandmother- and still kicking at 92. What a thrill to find someone who actually knew Grandma Bertie! This list is awesome because of the people who help each other. Thanks Vicci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com