Hi JoAnn. In Old Time [history of Drew County], there is Willie David (Sanderlin) m William Conrad. Their ch: Myrtle m Carl Fox Hudspeth and Augusta m Ralph McCune. Then there is Carl Fox Hudspeth , son of Ida M Allen and Charles Fox Hudspeth. He m Hila Kimbro. They had two dau, Gwendolyn, d infant, and Maynell m William Henry Hobgood. Ida Allen m 2nd C. L. Burks. Best regards, Rebecca DeArmond ---------- > From: Stephens-Avery Family <bahai@netusa1.net> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Drew Co - High School photo > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 6:48 PM > > Thanks for the information! I have a Carl F. Hudspeth who would be about > eighteen or twenty in 1900. He married an Unknown Kimbro soon after High > School and then a Myrtle Conrad some years later. Anyone out there know of > this family? I'm unsure of this Conrad connection to my Conrad line but > I've been "collecting" names of anyone remotely connected to the Conrads in > AR just in case. > > Jo-Ann in Indiana

Very interesting articel Davie. Thanks. We were discussing SOOK, but it possibly meant the same as SUKIE, who knows? Carolyn

Did we have a question some time back about Sookie? Forgive me, it's a bit lengthy! davie -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Lindsay Bass <jbass@digital.net> To: CSA-History-L@rootsweb.com <CSA-History-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:17 PM Subject: THE GERMANS AMONG US This talk was given by Dr. Larry Fleenor to the E. TN. Genealogy Society in Oct. 1998. And post here with his permission. -sysop THE GERMANS AMONG US A Talk to the East Tennessee Genealogy Association Oct. 15, 1998 by: Lawrence J. Fleenor, Jr. copyright 1998 Big Stone Gap, Va. Suk-suk-sukie! Is there anyone among you who knows what I have just done? [some positive response] Were any of you gentlemen ever told as a boy that you were wearing “high water britches? [equal positive response ] What might any of this have to do with the fact that we are assembled here this evening in the Valley of the Holston River? Could any of this relate to my name, or to the name of Jerry Sharrett, who invited me here to speak? Did you know that the name the Confederates used for neighboring Bluff City was ‘Camp Zollicoffer’? What is it that all these things have in common? They are German in origin. “Sukie” is derived from the medieval Franchonian word “suggi”, which means “to suckle”. Franchonia was a portion of Germany that was once conquered and ruled by France centuries ago. How is it that an ancient cattle call from a portion of Germany under French influence wind up being commonly used in the Valley of the Holston? In my talk I hope to persuade you that the German influence in our area is considerable. I will provide more evidence for this, discuss historic Europe to describe what our German ancestor’s lives were like there, the events that caused these German ancestors to leave, what methods they used to leave, what happened to them when they got to the English American colonies, and the why and the how of their arrival in the Greater Holston Valley. We will then allow time for questions. Evidences of the German Settlers of the Greater Holston Valley Jerry Sharrett and I are distant cousins, as his grandmother’s maiden name was Fleenor. Jerry’s family and mine both lived in Rich Valley in Washington Co., Va, which runs roughly from US 58 at Valley Institute to US 19 at Greendale. using that valley as an example, one can go up that valley and move from clan name to clan name. I will name a few: Miller, Sharrett, Fleenor, Leonard, Kaylor, Sproles, Kegley, Hortenstine, and the non German sounding Blacks and Whites. There are few people living along that valley that are not related to at least some of these clans. They are all German. One can do the same thing for Poor Valley, which is the valley of the North Fork of the Holston all the way from Kingsport to Saltville. I took a quick look on the topographic maps for the Virginia Counties of Washington, Scott, Wise, and Lee and added some others off of the top of my head, and counted about 130 names of springs, cemeteries, and other geographic features bearing German family names. And this represents only the surface. Many more Germans passed through without leaving their names on the map. And even more than that, not included on this list are those Germans who directly translated their names into the English equivalent, and who can not be separated from their English neighbors. Among these are the following: Weiss-White, Schwartz-Black, Grun-Green, Baur-Farmer, Schwerd-Sword, Müller-Miller, Wilhelms-Williams, Wilhelmsohn, Williamson, Bishof-Bishop, Braun-Brown, Stahl-Steel, Strasse-Street, Heyl-Hale, Vogel-Bird, Steiner-Stoner or Stone, Schmidt-Smith, --- the list goes on and on ---these settlers will never be identified. These Germans are backed up back to back, up and down the valleys of the Holston. How is it that they came to be here? The Europe of the 17th and 18th Centuries The Reformation started by Martin Luther in 1521 unleashed 250 years of viscous warfare, with Germany being center stage. The affair was incredibly complex, and involved many more denominations that just Catholic and Lutheran. Important to our story are especially the followers of John Huss and of John Calvin. At this point in history, France existed as a nation fairly much as it does today, but Germany did not. Instead in Germany there were numerous quarrelsome small independent political entities, some no larger than Sullivan County. Between France and these German speaking principalities there were several dukedoms , a no man’s land, where neither of these great warring peoples had control. Foremost among them were Alsace, Lorraine, and the Palatinate, which at that time included much of what is now the German province of Würtemberg, and of Franconia. During the infamous St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre of Aug. 8, 1572, France ran all of these denominations out of France proper into the border provinces. The wars of the Reformation climaxed in the Thirty Year’s War of 1618-1648. Gradually the Catholics and the Lutherans began to divide the continent up between them, driving all other Christians out of the territories that the larger denominations controlled. Among those refugee Christians were the followers of Huss and of Calvin, such as the German Reformed Church, the Amish, the Moravians, the Mennonites, the Hutterites, the Dunkards, the Brethren and an unrelated denomination, the Schwinkfelders. All these diverse groups have been inappropriately lumped together under the term ‘Huguenots’. These groups began to migrate into these principalities between Catholic France, and Catholic southern Germany, and the Lutheran northern Germany. France, however, began to gain military control of this border country, both to consolidate its political power, and to drive these ‘heretics off of the face of the earth. French armies surrounded Alsace to prevent escape, and began forced reconversions to Catholicism. Beheadings and mass burnings at the stake were the fate of those caught in this process. By the mid 18th Century there was no place left for these religious refugees to hide on the continent of Europe, except for Holland. These Protestant refugees, most having come originally from Germany, poured into Holland in an attempt to escape overseas to England, South Africa, or to America. These was not enough shipping to carry them away, and an unorganized refugee camp sprang up outside Rotterdam, where starvation and exposure killed many. Others made it to England, where a refugee camp was set up to provide for them. -->William Penn, a member of the British Royal family, and a Quaker, had -----------^^^^ established the colony of Pennsylvania as a haven for Quakers and other religious refugees. The Quakers helped within the refugee camps, and established trust among the refugees, and soon tens of thousands of them were on the way to Pennsylvania. Not all the German emigrants were religious ones. A good many Lutherans left their homes to escape social and economic conditions, and became intermixed with the religious refugees. The general turmoil of the marching and countermarching armies made life miserable for everyone. And Germany was poor and overpopulated. The industrial revolution had not come to the continent. The German peasant was little more than a serf, and belonged to his duke, who viewed him as a valuable asset, little more than a slave. The petty German dukes drafted their young men and impressed them into the army, and rented them out to the warring factions in Europe. The peasant could not legally move off of his land without paying a sort of ransom to the duke, called a manumission tax. Many Lutheran peasants sneaked off in the middle of the night without paying the tax, and became outlaws for having done so. They flocked to the ports of Rotterdam and Amsterdam, in hopes of gaining passage to Pennsylvania. Perhaps the most common means of gaining passage was to sell oneself and ones family into an indenture contract to a sea captain. No money changed hands, but the captain, who was usually also the owner of his ship, would provide passage to America for free. Many immigrants died in passage, and upon arrival in Philidelphia the captain would sell the contracts of the survivors to some prosperous farmer who lived around Philidelphia. The immigrants were then obligated to work for the owner of their contract for a period of about fifteen years under conditions often little better than slavery. Many ran away. Life in Pensylvania All in all, there are records of the arrival of some 100,000 Germans into Pennsylvania in the twenty years before the Revolutionary War. As the indenture contracts began to expire, the immigrants had to move away from Eastern Pennsylvania in order to find land for themselves. They headed west into the Susquehanna Valley, but could not go further directly west because of the unbroken wall of the Alleghenies, and had to follow the Great Valley between the Blue Ridge and the Alleghenies into Virginia. Strange things began to happen in America. The authorities in Maryland, which had been established as a haven for English Catholics, invited these Protestant German immigrants into Maryland. No matter that they had been fighting each other for 250 years in Europe. Many came, but the lure of limitless cheap land to the west lured many to move on to the the Frontiers of North Carolina and of Virginia. Some of the denominations of refugees were more cohesive than others. The Mennonites and Amish, in particular, were tight self help societies, and provided mutual economic assistance in purchasing land. The Amish were able to form a colony in Pennsylvania. The Mennonites moved into the Shenandoah Valley. The Dunkards settled at Dunkard’s Bottom at present Radford, Virginia. The Cherokee annihilated the Catawbas [Indians] who had lived in the Yadkin Valley of North Carolina, which is where Winston-Salem in located today. This created a vacuum in the area of some of the best farm land in North Carolina, and even as the Cherokee began to move in, the Moravians sent a missionary colony into the Yadkin, soon to be followed by a larger group of Moravians from Pennsylvania. Then came the various groups of the Brethren, less organized than the Moravians, but also the followers of John Huss. Then came large numbers of Scots- Irish, who as Presbyterians, were theologically related to the German denominations already settled in the Yadkin. These diverse peoples intermarried. German Immigration into Our Area At this point one needs to divide the incoming German settlers into four groups, as each was a little different from the other three. The first group would be those Germans who came directly into the upper Clinch Valley and the upper Valley of the North Fork of the Holston from Pennsylvania and Maryland. They were of relatively pure stock, and came over the route that lead from the New River by the Narrows to Bluefield or Tazewell, and who settled from there to more of less present US 19 between Abingdon and St. Paul. They tended to have been more of the pioneering culture as they arrived about the time of the French and Indian War. In 1771 the settlers of the Yadkin Valley engaged in an armed insurrection against the Colonial authorities, against whom they fought a pitched battle near Alamance Court House. The settlers ran out of ammunition, and lost the battle. The Red Coated soldiers of the Governor ran amok through the Yadkin, burning and hanging, and the settlers began the largest mass migration in colonial American history, as they ran for their lived through the passes of the Blue Ridge in to the Valleys of the Holston, Watauga, and Clinch. They became known as the “Over Mountain Men of the Watauga Settlements”, and settled without benefit of legal title. They, also, were frontiersmen. Around 1775-1777 real estate agents seem to have been active in the Pennsylvanian and Maryland German communities, as this is the period when the Rich and Poor Valleys of the Holston were settled by Germans of pure stock in the area running from the Tennessee - Virginia state line northeast to US 19. They purchased the land from these real estate speculator companies that had promoted the land to them, or from earlier settlers. These folks tended to be more of the settled German peasant stock, and not so nearly the frontiersmen that their other German neighbors were. They have tended to stay put more than the groups to the north and to the south of them have. The fourth and last group of German settlers in our area are typified by the ancestor of the Rasnicks. As a young man Jacob Rasnick was working in his parent’s hay loft in the German State of Hesse when an impressment gang of soldiers came down the road and took him. All his mother could do was to give him a German Bible and say goodbye, as he was taken off to become a soldier. They never saw each other again. The Duke of Hesse rented Rasnick and his army out to the British for hard cash, and they wound up fighting in the American Revolution. Washington captured them at the Battle of Trenton, New Jersey and they were kept it the prisoner of war barracks at Charlottesville, Va. Barracks Road in that city is named for this circumstance. Many, like Rasnick, after the war was over decided that if they returned to Hesse their Duke would merely rent them out again to fight in some far off battlefield not of their choosing. Many stayed in Virginia. Col. Scheiflick stayed and became the ancestor of all the Shiffletts of Greene County. Rasnick came to what now is Dickenson County, Virginia. There are no records of how many Hessians stayed in Virginia after the end of the War, but if family traditions are any indicator, their descendants are heavily sprinkled among us. Cultural Remnants What happened to all these Germans, and to their culture? Well, the Germans are still here. The spellings of the names frequently became anglized and may be difficult to recognize. But we are here. For example - Flinner to Fleenor; Scheritz to Sharrett. Evidences of the culture are more difficult to identify. There are several reasons. The more collectivistic of the German denominations established themselves to the northeast, where they are quite evident today as the well known Amish and Mennonite Communities. They had only indirect influence here. The European Lutheran Church did not support the Lutheran Church in America. Unlike the Episcopal, the Presbyterian, the Quaker, or the Catholic Churches, it sent neither trained clergy nor financial aide. There were Lutheran Churches in our region, but they soon withered. An example would be the Lutheran Church that existed on the Hortinstine farm in the community between Fleenor’s Spring and Fleenor’s Chapel in Rich Valley. Even though Winston-Salem continues to be the center of the American Moravian Church, it did not survive the Regulator refugee emigration out of the Yadkin Valley into our area. The less formally organized Church of the Brethren survived the immigration better, and there was a Church of the Brethren at Zenobia, which is east of Mendota, that conducted services in German till World War I. The Germans immigrants to our area desperately wanted to “be English”. They were the subjects of some discrimination, frequently being called “thick headed Dutchmen”. The second generation, those born in America, frequently joined British denominations that were historically and theologically related to the churches of their parents. Members of the German Reformed Church usually joined the co-Calvinist Presbyterian Church, and the Moravians and Brethren joined the Methodist Church in such numbers that they made it their own. The last union of Brethren and Methodists did not occur until about twenty five years ago, an event that turned the Methodist Church into the United Methodist Church. As for the more private German culture as practiced within the family, it held together within my family until the Civil War. Others still spoke German well enough to listen to sermons in it and to sing in it till World War I. After this, all mention of things German vanished from memory, only to remain in subtile ways, like cattle calls, sour Krout, and potato salad. In my area, salad is still frequently pronounced in the German fashion, “sala’t “, as in “sala’t greens”. I hope you are now persuaded on the significance of the German immigration into our area. I would like to acknowledge the contributions to the research underling this talk of Mr. Edgar A. Howard. I will now entertain questions and comments. Thank you. jbass@digital.net 216 Beach Park Lane Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 LINDSAY, HARRISON & CSA-HISTORY Roots Mail List Home of The *HARRISON* Repository & *MY FAMILY* http://moon.ouhsc.edu/rbonner/harintro.htm Data Managed by Becky Bass Bonner and Josephine Lindsay Bass

Heads up for everyone... dave -----Original Message----- From: John L Maurath <conlaeth@juno.com> To: CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com <CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 5:04 PM Subject: MADMANSMOM@aol.com: Re: [MOFRANKL-L] Halbert's Warning >--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- >From: MADMANSMOM@aol.com >To: StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MOFRANKL-L] Halbert's Warning >Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:44:13 EDT >Message-ID: <b4fc558a.36324a2d@aol.com> > >In a message dated 98-10-24 15:13:40 EDT, you write: > ><< Thought I would pass this along so everyone can be aware of Halbert's >new > "disguise". > Anne > annecrase@prodigy.net > > > >They are up to their old tricks again! > > > > Watch Out for Halbert! > > > >Halbert's of Bath, Ohio, has come up with a new technique. They are now > >sending their advertisement for Family History Books from a Washington >D.C. > >address. Halbert's is now using the name > >"US Information Burueau NUMA" (note the spelling of Bureau) > >3220 N. St, NW Ste 1400 > >Washington D.C. (no zip code given) > > > >They are advertising a book regarding all the people with your surname >in > >the Civil War. > >Do not be fooled. This is the same game, different cover. > > > >>From the Wake County Genealogical Society Fall 1998 > > and the Durham-Orange Genealogical Society Fall 1998 > > > >> > > >--------- End forwarded message ---------- > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >

April 30, 1895: Misses Lizzie Gaster, Vena Stitt and Bertie Morgan attended the dance at Wilmar, on last Tuesday night. Mr. and Mrs. J. McLauchlan, left yesterday morning for Little Rock, to attend the Sam Jones meeting. Mrs. J.D. Farwell, the estimable wife of Mr. J.D. Farwell, of Deane will arrive from Marysville, Kansas, today. Mr. Vance Borbeaux and Miss Mary Gabbert accompanied the bridal party as far as Dermott last Wednesday. Miss Nettie McGehee, who has been bisiting the Misses Boyd in this city, has returned to her home in McGehee. Messrs. Louie Burks, Ben Hardy, Buck Finn, Fee Knox and Delbert Caraway attended the dance at Wilmar on last Tuesday night. The marriage of Mr. W.A. Campbell and Miss Hattie Wood Gabbert took place at the Presbyterian church in this city according to program last Wednesday morning at 8:45. After the ceremony was preformed by Rev. S.C. Alexander, the newly married couple took the 9 o'clock train for Augusta, their future home. The groom is one of Augusta's leading young men, and we congratulate him on his choice of a life partner. The bride is too well known in this city for any special introduction from us. Suffice it that Monticello has lost one of its noblest daughters. The Advance tenders its sincerest congratulations to Mr. and Mrs. Campbell and its best wishes go with them through life. Jann I forgot to "fall back" last night------did ya'll??? Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0006.F2DC9A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by venus.seark.net id LAA17381 [you will not be able to read the attachment, but it is the same as this] Rebecca DeArmond In a message dated 10/24/98 8:11:58 PM Central Daylight Time, EleanorCol writes: > Subj: Tidbit on James H. OZMENT, Jr. > Date: 10/24/98 8:11:58 PM Central Daylight Time > From: EleanorCol > To: Genny1, LonRMartin, Brobpat, VHULL > To: bchristall@apex2000.net, grovera@bcl.net > To: mozment@pop.erols.com, rmmcw@effingham.net > > I just found this using a search engine. I have only copied parts tha= t are > pertinent. This is about James H. OZMENT who apparently did go to Uni= on Co, > AR (turned into Bradley Co) by 1830. > > Eleanor > > << > (This short history of Bradley County, Arkansas is taken from an artic= le > written by Judge David A. Bradham in 1951 which was published in a book > titled "Bradley County Family Histories" by The Eagle Democrat, mid-winter > 1992-93.) > > From the earliest date, the pioneers of Arkansas, as well as all American > pioneers, looked largely to the forests and fields for their sustenance and > livelihood. By land surveys made of Bradley County lands during the period > 1826 to 1830 are shown "fields" on the plats made at that time and by these " > fields" the name of the owner or possessor is shown. > > In addition to the names already mentioned, the following names are shown on > these early land plats; C. Lee, Franklin T. O=92Neel (O=92Neal), C. Lay= ed, Mrs. > Franklin, Jack Pennington, Ozment, Turral, Rutlidge, James Jarratt Wheeler, > Harris, Williams, and Purdy. > > The roster of the first of the county officials of Bradley County, 1840-42, > are given as County Judge, Daniel Frazer who served two terms; Clerk of the > court, Simeon Chisholm who served two terms; Sheriff, James Bradley, wh= o > served one term, being succeeded by J. H. D. Scobey in 1842; Treasurer, H. > Marks, who served two terms; Coroner, James Ozment, who served one term and > was succeeded by D. McLaughlin; and Surveyor, J. T. Cabeen, who served one > term and was succeeded by E. Howard. ---------- ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0006.F2DC9A20 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: EleanorCol@aol.com Return-path: <EleanorCol@aol.com> To: Genny1@aol.com, LonRMartin@aol.com, Brobpat@aol.com, VHULL@aol.com, bchristall@apex2000.net, grovera@bcl.net, mozment@pop.erols.com, rmmcw@effingham.net Subject: Tidbit on James H. OZMENT, Jr. Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:11:58 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just found this using a search engine. I have only copied parts that ar= e pertinent. This is about James H. OZMENT who apparently did go to Union = Co, AR (turned into Bradley Co) by 1830. Eleanor << (This short history of Bradley County, Arkansas is taken from an article written by Judge David A. Bradham in 1951 which was published in a book ti= tled "Bradley County Family Histories" by The Eagle Democrat, mid-winter 1992-9= 3.) >From the earliest date, the pioneers of Arkansas, as well as all American pioneers, looked largely to the forests and fields for their sustenance an= d livelihood. By land surveys made of Bradley County lands during the period 1826 to 1830 are shown "fields" on the plats made at that time and by thes= e "fields" the name of the owner or possessor is shown. In addition to the names already mentioned, the following names are shown = on these early land plats; C. Lee, Franklin T. O=92Neel (O=92Neal), C. Layed,= Mrs. Franklin, Jack Pennington, Ozment, Turral, Rutlidge, James Jarratt Wheeler= , Harris, Williams, and Purdy. The roster of the first of the county officials of Bradley County, 1840-42= , are given as County Judge, Daniel Frazer who served two terms; Clerk of th= e court, Simeon Chisholm who served two terms; Sheriff, James Bradley, who served one term, being succeeded by J. H. D. Scobey in 1842; Treasurer, H. Marks, who served two terms; Coroner, James Ozment, who served one term an= d was succeeded by D. McLaughlin; and Surveyor, J. T. Cabeen, who served one term and was succeeded by E. Howard. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0006.F2DC9A20--

Does anyone have any information on a Samuel Williams and wife Lucinda HEFLIN Williams. Thanks Mike Marcum HEFLIN , MCLEMORE, WILLIAMS, CARROLL, SIMMONS, WHITE, etc

Jann, Could you please look and see if there are any LOVELESS, KNOWLES, CANNONS listed as "arrested" or captured. Thanks. Pat

rdea (rdea@seark.net) wrote: >Beth, All we have to do is to get it on the National or >Arkansas Historic Register and then it will be protected >from now on out. As well as perhaps be eligible for funds for >restoration and needed repairs. The Arkansas Historic >Preservation Program, of which I am a board member, >is the organization which does this. All you have to do >is fill out a form detailing its history, architecture, etc. Hi, just wondering if folks are going to pursue getting the "red brick building" at Drew Central on the Nat'l or Arkansas Historic Register? Let me know if I can help out in any way. I'm good at filling out forms, though I probably don't know enough about the history and architecture of the building to fill it out by myself. <g> This seems like a worthwile project to take on! --Melissa

Jann, Yes, indeed, per your message below, that is my Daniel Chance. He was born 17 March 1821 in either Miss or La, according to whichever census you believe. He died in 1900. I haven't found him yet before coming to Arkansas. I am descended from his son, Daniel Webster Chance, from "Webb"'s daughter, Alma Ethyl Chance, who was my grandmother. And yes, I have a copy of the History of Lincoln County book. It was my Dad's. It has been a wonderful source. Do you have anything else on Daniel? My grandfather was a Burr, but the land he and his wife lived on and inherited was all Chance land. Your message: Jane, Does this guy connect with your line: Drew Advance April 30, 1895: Mr. Daniel Chance, of Lincoln county, was in this city one day last week. Mr. Chance is about 75 years old and was a resident of Drew county in 1842. He is hale and hearty and stands high among Lincoln's foremost and influential citizens. Are you aware of all the Chance family info in the Lincoln Co. history book??????? Jann For Carolyn: Re your message: Subject: [ARDREW-L] Re: Meek, Chance and Scifres Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:28:34 -0500 From: "John Haisty" <jhaisty@tcac.com> To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com This is for Jane McBride: I am going to throw a few names at you and if they mean anything, let me know. Does Chester Meek mean anything to you? His daughter Joanne lives in Monticello. My first cousin's son married a Meek also. My husband's uncle married Winnie Estelle Scifres, daughter of Thomas Newton Scifres and Mary Savilla Johnson. Winnie's sister-in law and neice live in Monticello. Arvin Chance married Florence Jacks (she taught many of us) also from Lincoln County. She was the elementary principal when my mother began to teach at Drew Central. Two years later, Florence Jacks Chance moved to the 7th grade and my mother became principal. I spent many hours in the home of Florence before and after her marriage to Arvin Chance. They were engaged while he served in World War II. When he returned, they were married. Florence had a nephew named Perry Jacks who lived in Star City, I believe. Lucy Mae Haisty in the list of 1946 teachers was my mother. The McKinstry ladies that Karen Groce mentioned - Artie Belle McKinstry Robinson, Lela McKinstry Willis and Edna Lee McKinstry Groce were her cousins - their mother was my mother's first cousin. Let me know if you would like to talk with someone in the Scifres or Meeks families. Carolyn jhaisty@tcac.com

This may not be anything to you,but one never knows by the spelling of the name.When I was at El Dorado I saw a A. Meek that had married a Burrow.There was a big differance in age I think and she married again too after his death.I can't remember many details. Linda Hill Jonesboro Ar l1326h@bscn.com ---------- > Jann, > > Yes, indeed, per your message below, that is my Daniel Chance. He was > born 17 March 1821 in either Miss or La, according to whichever census > you believe. He died in 1900. I haven't found him yet before coming to > Arkansas. I am descended from his son, Daniel Webster Chance, from > "Webb"'s daughter, Alma Ethyl Chance, who was my grandmother. And yes, I > > have a copy of the History of Lincoln County book. It was my Dad's. It > has been a wonderful source. Do you have anything else on Daniel? My > grandfather was a Burr, but the land he and his wife lived on and > inherited was all Chance land. > > Your message: Jane, > > Does this guy connect with your line: > > Drew Advance April 30, 1895: Mr. Daniel Chance, of Lincoln county, was > in this city one day last week. Mr. Chance is about 75 years old and > was a resident of Drew county in 1842. He is hale and hearty and > stands high among Lincoln's foremost and influential citizens. > > Are you aware of all the Chance family info in the Lincoln Co. history > book??????? > Jann > > > For Carolyn: > > Re your message: Subject: > [ARDREW-L] Re: Meek, Chance and Scifres > Date: > Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:28:34 -0500 > From: > "John Haisty" <jhaisty@tcac.com> > To: > ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > > > > This is for Jane McBride: I am going to throw a few names at you and > if they mean anything, let me know. Does Chester Meek mean anything > to you? His daughter Joanne lives in Monticello. My first cousin's > son married a Meek also. > > My husband's uncle married Winnie Estelle Scifres, daughter of Thomas > Newton Scifres and Mary Savilla Johnson. Winnie's sister-in law and > neice live in Monticello. > > Arvin Chance married Florence Jacks (she taught many of us) also from > Lincoln County. She was the elementary principal when my mother began > to teach at Drew Central. Two years later, Florence Jacks Chance > moved to the 7th grade and my mother became principal. I spent many > hours in the home of Florence before and after her marriage to Arvin > Chance. They were engaged while he served in World War II. When he > returned, they were married. Florence had a nephew named Perry Jacks > who lived in Star City, I believe. Lucy Mae Haisty in the list of > 1946 teachers was my > mother. The McKinstry ladies that Karen Groce mentioned - Artie Belle > McKinstry Robinson, Lela McKinstry Willis and Edna Lee McKinstry Groce > were her cousins - > their mother was my mother's first cousin. > > Let me know if you would like to talk with someone in the Scifres or > Meeks families. > > Carolyn > jhaisty@tcac.com > > >

I found another post on GLADDENS.....If anyone is interested in more on this family, let me know. Otherwise, I will quit clogging our Drew Co. page with outside information. I just know that lots of Gladdens live in Drew County. Therefore, let me know if this is interesting to anyone. BETH >From: "Michael Crocker" <biocis@usa.net> >To: SCCHEST2-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCCHEST2-L] Obit. Sarah M. GAYDEN GLADDEN >Obituary of Sarah Margaret Gayden Gladden >Newspaper clipping from The State, Columbia, S.C., >year-date of publication not incl., but by-line has month >& date of Dec. 29. Some classified ads on back mention >year 1929, so it appears that probable death date >is 28 Dec 1928. >Transcribed by Michael L. Crocker, Oct. 1998. >[not related to Mrs. Gladden as far as I know, >but Mrs. K. Ladd was my Gr-Gr-grd'mother.] >Mrs. S. M. GLADDEN. >Special to The State. Winnsboro, Dec. 29. - The entire community was saddened >Friday morning when it became known that Mrs. Sallie Gladden >had passed away; however, her health had been such for the >last few months that her death was not unexpected since she >had suffered a stroke of paralysis in May and a second stroke >a few weeks ago. > A woman passionately devoted to her family and to her home >it was there she was always to be found giving untiringly of her >time and strength to the many duties that devolved upon her. >Her friends, and she numbered them by the score, were from >all classes, nor was there any discrimination as to color. > Mrs. Gladden, whose maiden name was >Sarah Margaret Gayden, was born in Chester county, being >the oldest child of Hilliard J. and Margaret GAYDEN, >December 2, 1846. She received her education at Mrs. >Katharine Ladd's school and is survived by only one of her >schoolmates, Mrs. N. E. PRESSLY, of Winnsboro. > At the age of 22 she was married to Jesse A. GLADDEN >of Rocky Mount, Fairfield county, who died 31 years ago. >>From this union there were 12 children, nine of whom are >living and were with her in her last illness. They are, >James A., John G., H. G., R. T., W. L., Ernest and >Bratton GLADDEN, Mrs. O. B. WEEKS and Mrs. >R. H. McDOWELL. She is survived by one brother also, >John M. GAYDEN, of Columbia. > Funeral services were held at Bethesda Methodist >church, conducted by her pastor, the Rev. W. A. FAIRY, >assisted by Dr. Oliver JOHNSON of Winnsboro and >the Rev. Henry STOKES of Great Falls. The interment >was in the old family burying ground at the church. >The many and beautiful flowers were a symbol of the >love and esteem in which she was held.

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At 09:35 AM 10/23/98 -0500, you wrote: >Jann, YES!!!!!!!! > >Carolyn Ditto....BETH

The following is a list of soldiers that might connect to Drew Co., who were captured at Longview. I would post all of them but don't think everyone would enjoy such a long list. James Hasty, Private. Company "D" Wright's Ark. Cavalry. Captured March 29, 1864 at Longview. Confined to Little Rock April 4, 1864. Released May 17, 1864 and forwarded to Rock Island, Illinois. J.G. Hurley, 2nd Lt. Company "K" 1st Arkansas Cavalry. Captured March 29, 1864 at Longview. Confined to Little Rock April 4, 1864. Released June 23, 1864 and forwaded to Rock Island, Illinois. John Hudgepeth(sic) Private. Company "A" 1st Ark. Cavalry. Captured March 29, 1864 at Longview. Confined to Little Rock April 4, 1864. Released June 23, 1864 and forwarded to Rock Island, Illinois. G.F. Hankins Private. Company "K" 1st Ark. Cavalry. Captured March 29, 1864 at Longview. Confined to Little Rock April 4, 1864. Released May 4, 1865 and sent to New Orleans for exchange. When I extracted this info, I found where people were "arrested" in Bradley Co. around the same dates as the skirmish. Mostly they were listed as political prisoners etc. I didn't extract the Drew Co. Soldiers who were arrested else where. Apparently, and this is an assumption, some of the men managed to escape capture with the majority of men at Longview and were hunted down in the near by area. Hence the term, "arrested." Amy------I didn't find any Bishops listed. Helen---I'll look for your surnames and get back to you. If any of you have anyone you want me to look for---send me a name. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

What about BURROW OR BURROUGH? Linda Hill Jonesboro Ar l1326h@bscn.com ---------- > The following is a list of soldiers that might connect to Drew Co., who were > captured at Longview. > > If any of you have anyone you want me to look for---send me a name. > > Jann

Thank you very much Pat. An interesting guy. Rebecca ---------- > From: P1TTYPAT@aol.com > To: rdea@seark.net > Subject: dow > Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 5:30 PM > > Dow, Lorenzo (1777-1834). Traveling evangelist and circuit rider who conducted > camp meetings throughout the eastern half of the sparsely settled United > States. Born in Coventry, Conn., on Oct. 16, 1777. Educated at home. Began > preaching in 1794. Suspended from Methodist church in 1796. Restored in 1798, > he went to Ireland to preach until 1801. Traveled tirelessly throughout the > United States, especially in the South. Late in life he became quarrelsome, > writing freely against all organizations he opposed, including his own church. > Died in Georgetown, Md., on Feb. 2, 1834. > > [found this in the encyclopedia thru AOL] > Pat

Carolyn, Thank you very much. This is exactly what I was looking for. the Smith connection. The Judge John I. Smith bunch @ Garrett Bridge and Tyro. Yes, it would be great to be in touch with the lady who has the McShan history. This is for the book re Collins and Garrett Bridge and Tyro. Believe the McShans are also connected to the Saylor/Sayler family. Rebecca

Jann Woodard wrote: > > For any of you that are interested: I found an old microfilm regarding one of the military prisons in Little Rock during the Longview Expedition and extracted the some odd 300 men who were captured during the skirmish. All were either sent to Rock Island or exchanged at New Orleans, > > Jann > > Jann - Please do. I am just now finding out about some of "mine" who were in that war - Julius Adams, and I believe some Temples. Helen Leigh