Wanda, Old Times has two Wyles: Emmett and Lottie Herring. p 294 Rebecca DeArmond rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/ ---------- > From: Wanda Wyles <wwyles@digital.net> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Mrs. Conrad Wyles > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 8:12 AM > > Jann, > It's me searching for the Wyles. Thank you so much for the info. > Still haven't found much more that I had EXCEPT where some of them > were buried (Rough & Ready). > Thanks again and have a good day. > Wanda Wyles > > Isn't someone on the list searching for the Wyles family???? > > > > Drew Advance Oct. 27, 1925: Mrs. Conrad Wyles, vied very suddenly at the > > family residence in the eastern part of town last Thursday evening about 10 > > o'clock of heart trouble. She had been in bad health for about ten years but > > had been able to be up and had been sitting on the porch up until about 7 > > o'clock when she complained of feeling sick and retired early. She is > > survived by her husband. Funeral services were held Friday afternoon at 2:30 > > o'clock, conducted by Rev. M.K. Irvin and burial was in Rough and Ready > > cemetery. > > > > > > Jann > > > > > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account > > at http://www.eudoramail.com > > > > >

we now sit on couches.but seems like it used to be a divan. what do you do with honey, lemon and alum? Please. A Hot Toddy ain't worth nothing unless it is Hot. [purely medicinal of course!] Rebecca ---------- > From: Stephens-Avery Family <bahai@netusa1.net> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Southern pronunciation > Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 11:46 PM > > Do you sit on a davenport or a divan? Do you know what a "mustard poultice" > is? (OUCH!!!) What do you do with honey, lemon, and alum? Do you prefer > Vinegar Pie to Lemon Pie? And...how hot do you like your Hot Toddy? > > Call me anything you like (just don't call me late to supper!) :-)

adding an "r" to words is very southern! Rebecca ---------- > From: Stephens-Avery Family <bahai@netusa1.net> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Southern pronunciation > Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:51 PM > > Beth and Melissa: > > Your recent entries regarding spelling and pronunciation quandries made me > smile, too! I remember the teacher who made me constantly sound out > "wash"...without the "r"... and made me find the word "possum" in the > dictionary (took me FOREVER since I had never heard it said with an "o"!)... > :-) > > Hey, "axe" me no questions, I'll tell you no lies! > Jo-Ann <grin> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >

I should not even answer this one, but I will tomake up for teasing beth the english teacher about her grammar. I corrected Jann once and she replied that what she said was exactly what she meant! ha. that one was about mixed metaphors. and i prob could not have sp sherbet either...I would have prob said ice cream to get around it. the Wm T. Wells in Greenhill is one in the same as the Moffat/Wells family of Monticello. SEE P 280 OLD TIMES. HA. Rebecca ---------- > From: Terri Lee Wolfe <terrilee@ipa.net> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] Re: sherbet/Wells > Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 9:50 PM > > >sherbet push-ups, or little candy necklaces. I wouldn't have any idea what > > Melissa, rdea loves to tease me about my grammar, but I told her that web > email was a chatty thing and not grammar time, esp. w/my typing > skills.....Also, I like to just flow w/my thoughts and not think about the > correctness of something.:-) When getting ready to publish or turn in for a > grade, it's another realm entirely.*smile* > > However, I couldn't help but smile.......I wonder how many folks in good > old Possum Valley and the Prairie could spell "sherbet." I was impressed > w/that spelling.....must show you are either educated or haven't been > around us Southerners, esp. southeast AR Southerners for some time.Ha This > was a word on the SAT 9's spelling section this year, and my students > decided that it was a biased word. Most of them missed it because they > have always heard of sherbeRt icecream, etc. They were astounded to find > out that it was sherbet.*smile* > > By the way, rdea, check out that subject line(she teased me about that , too). > > Okay, now for the serious stuff. > > You Green Hill folks. Are the Wells in the Green Hill Cemetery in the late > l800's the same Wells as the ones up town, who donated the college > property? The Wm.T. Wells.....etc. kinfolks of the Wells Moffats and Mrs. > Henri Mason....etc.????? > > Okay, rdea, don't tell me to look in OLD TIMES....copy on the Praire > ,,,,not it town........ > > Thanks for the many wonderful stories, Jann.....Acutally, it's rather nice > to have rdea on here, too....even if she does give me a hard time. > Beth Thurman > or > Terri Wolfe > Monticello, AR > 367-2701

Jann, It's me searching for the Wyles. Thank you so much for the info. Still haven't found much more that I had EXCEPT where some of them were buried (Rough & Ready). Thanks again and have a good day. Wanda Wyles > Isn't someone on the list searching for the Wyles family???? > > Drew Advance Oct. 27, 1925: Mrs. Conrad Wyles, vied very suddenly at the > family residence in the eastern part of town last Thursday evening about 10 > o'clock of heart trouble. She had been in bad health for about ten years but > had been able to be up and had been sitting on the porch up until about 7 > o'clock when she complained of feeling sick and retired early. She is > survived by her husband. Funeral services were held Friday afternoon at 2:30 > o'clock, conducted by Rev. M.K. Irvin and burial was in Rough and Ready > cemetery. > > > Jann > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account > at http://www.eudoramail.com > >

Hey gang I love these "grammer postings!" That's what makes the southern people so unique to the world!! My favorite expressions were the one's my grandfather used: "Hon, have you et yet?" No sir, I'm not hungry! "Well, there's some food "over yonder" if you are." Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Melissa, Benjamin Floyd Knowles had a son, Beverly B. Knowles. Beverly's daughter, Anita Knowles, was the teacher Beth mentioned. She taught for years at New Edinburg. If you find a oonnection with your line---this will open up a new area of research!! Oh yea---you can share anything I send with your mother!!!! I've got to work today------what a pity!! Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

I had never thought about it, but I would pronounce it "ON-ree" if it were a word I used. In fact if you had asked me to spell it, I probably would have come up with something like "onrey" to begin with, although it doesn't look right so I would have gone to the dictionary and had a lot of trouble finding it until I connected it with "onerous." This is a big confession from me, English major, writer and editor! A little quick research shows that the word (ornery) first appeared in 1816. Rather than being a Southern "pronunciation," I would be willing to bet a little more research would show it is a Southern "word." And no, I am not and never have been a teacher, just a lover of our language and its origins. Nancy

Okay- I'm jumping in again. In researching my husband's great grandfather, D.A. Trammell- I found out he had an application to run a saloon in the 18980-90's there in Monticello. Would anyone know anything about it? When I met my husband's grandmother in 1982, I could have sworn that this woman was the daughter of the mayor- she had a regal bearing ( I know- Southern!) and talked as if her daddy was the king of Monticello- even talked about them having one of he first horseless carriages in Monticello. When Bertie died in 1989, she was 92 and still never lost one iota of her grace and manners. Can anyone help with my po' lil' chillin's great-great grandpappy? Vicci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

add to those southern words "coener" instead of corner. I hear that one all the time, along with all the others previously mentioned. and no, it isn't just a SE AR thing - I live in "Loozianna" amy

Beth Thurman (terrilee@ipa.net) wrote: >Knowles people: This made me think. Have any of you ever noticed the >cemetery between Strong and Eldorado off to the right in some little town >between the HWY and Moro Bay or Hermitage? It says Knowles Cemetery. Beth, thanks for this! After seeing your tip, I found Knowles Cemetery on a map using the URL Carolyn Haisty posted the other day: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Looks like the cemetery is pretty close to a river or creek of some sort near Strong, AR, but none of my maps here tell me what waterway it is. Hmm, this sounds like yet another thing to explore next time I'm in Arkansas. Heck, my folks'd probably be happy if I just moved back for good. :-) --Melissa

My mother says "light bub" instead of bulb and "childring" instead of children. Some of her siblings also use this pronounciation. She's an OKie. name withheld for sake of okie mother (living)

Do you sit on a davenport or a divan? Do you know what a "mustard poultice" is? (OUCH!!!) What do you do with honey, lemon, and alum? Do you prefer Vinegar Pie to Lemon Pie? And...how hot do you like your Hot Toddy? Call me anything you like (just don't call me late to supper!) :-)

Beth Thurman (terrilee@ipa.net) wrote: >However, I couldn't help but smile.......I wonder how many folks in good >old Possum Valley and the Prairie could spell "sherbet." I was impressed >w/that spelling.....must show you are either educated or haven't been >around us Southerners, esp. southeast AR Southerners for some time.Ha This Dear Beth, Yes, "sherbet" I have down, but my friends here tease me mercilessly about my pronunciation of the word "ornery". Somewhere along the way (and I think it was from my grandmother and great-grandmother), I got it in my head that this word is pronounced "ON-ree". So that's how I still say it. Is this a SE Ark. pronunciation, or did I completely make it up?? --Melissa

Beth and Melissa: Your recent entries regarding spelling and pronunciation quandries made me smile, too! I remember the teacher who made me constantly sound out "wash"...without the "r"... and made me find the word "possum" in the dictionary (took me FOREVER since I had never heard it said with an "o"!)... :-) Hey, "axe" me no questions, I'll tell you no lies! Jo-Ann <grin> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------

>sherbet push-ups, or little candy necklaces. I wouldn't have any idea what Melissa, rdea loves to tease me about my grammar, but I told her that web email was a chatty thing and not grammar time, esp. w/my typing skills.....Also, I like to just flow w/my thoughts and not think about the correctness of something.:-) When getting ready to publish or turn in for a grade, it's another realm entirely.*smile* However, I couldn't help but smile.......I wonder how many folks in good old Possum Valley and the Prairie could spell "sherbet." I was impressed w/that spelling.....must show you are either educated or haven't been around us Southerners, esp. southeast AR Southerners for some time.Ha This was a word on the SAT 9's spelling section this year, and my students decided that it was a biased word. Most of them missed it because they have always heard of sherbeRt icecream, etc. They were astounded to find out that it was sherbet.*smile* By the way, rdea, check out that subject line(she teased me about that , too). Okay, now for the serious stuff. You Green Hill folks. Are the Wells in the Green Hill Cemetery in the late l800's the same Wells as the ones up town, who donated the college property? The Wm.T. Wells.....etc. kinfolks of the Wells Moffats and Mrs. Henri Mason....etc.????? Okay, rdea, don't tell me to look in OLD TIMES....copy on the Praire ,,,,not it town........ Thanks for the many wonderful stories, Jann.....Acutally, it's rather nice to have rdea on here, too....even if she does give me a hard time. Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

Knowles people: This made me think. Have any of you ever noticed the cemetery between Strong and Eldorado off to the right in some little town between the HWY and Moro Bay or Hermitage? It says Knowles Cemetery. Another thing while I'm thinking about it. I met an elderly lady who was one of the lst graduates of the Normal School at A&M in education, who did her student teaching at Drew Central in the 30's. She died last year or the year before, but her name was Anita Knowles, and she was connected to these around here....at least she and Marjorie Knowles thought so....They had communicated. She lived in her ancestral home(neat house w/a loom and all kinds of antiques that belonged to her parents)......I could not listen to my uncle asking genealogy ?'s for looking around the room and finally asking to see the rest of the house....just so much history there.....getting old....big, white farm house that one could tell used to be a very fruitful farm or possibly even a plantation-type place. Because of her being single, etc., it had gotten in disrepair, but it still held much curiosity for this nosey rosey. Anyway, w/so many Knowles & possums on the list, I thought this might be of interest to some of you.B ETH

Melissa Jones wrote: > > > Yes, I know that even if the store hadn't been torn down, it would be a > different experience for me to walk into today. But I still think it's a > shame that it's gone. Does anyone know when the store got torn down? > > --Melissa Someone else will probably know more, but this is what I remember... Herman Watts had the store as far back as I recall. He died. His wife lived in a trailer near the store place for a good while. Joe Berryman and his wife re-built the store and ran it for some time. Then another Berryman (?) ran it. I guess business didn't do too well. I know a lady that rented it and lived there at one time. I guess it just an empty building now. Selling Cokes, Snickers, and gas just don't bring in much money. jeff What did I leave out Becky??

Well, I am just having a slow day at work (edit, compile, test...repeat!), so I figured I would reminisce...as much as a puppy my age can do so!!! Does anyone else miss that little store that used to be out at Green Hill? At least, I believe that's where it was...back last December when my Uncle Norman and Aunt Susie (Chadwick) were taking Dad and me around to various cemeteries, they pointed out "And that's where the Green Hill store used to be..." I was dumbfounded. You mean those places get torn down??!! That was a little part of my childhood!! If I am thinking of the right store, we would go there sometimes during visits to my grandparents. The store always seemed dark and cool inside, even on a warm summer day. There was a smell when you walked in--a smell I could never describe in words but will never forget. Not a bad smell, mind you--a smell that conjures up pleasant memories for me of childhood. We would go there sometimes for Cokes you slid out one by one from an old 'horizontal' refrigerated case. Sometimes we would get those orange sherbet push-ups, or little candy necklaces. I wouldn't have any idea what else the store sold--my siblings and I were just interested in Cokes and sweets!! I don't have an inkling who ran the store, but I can remember going up to the counter and being greeted as "Little Larry" every time!!! Yes, I know that even if the store hadn't been torn down, it would be a different experience for me to walk into today. But I still think it's a shame that it's gone. Does anyone know when the store got torn down? --Melissa

Melissa, Believe me, when I kill a snake, he IS dead! Seriously, most snakes will continue to wiggle or coil up, even after they are headless, which is probably what started this 'old wives tale'. Plus, my wife actually prefers that dead snakes not be brought home at all. jeff Melissa Jones wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > One of my distant cousins sent a nostalgic e-mail to another list we're > both on. She was reminiscing about "old times". > > This particular sentence caught my eye: > > >If you killed a rattler, you didn't bring > >him home 'til the next day to show him off > >...snakes don't die 'til sundown. > > Has anyone else ever heard this? Early this summer, Dad and I sat around > with cousin Jeff Loveless and his dad Eugene and they told us some of > their rattler stories, but I don't remember hearing this about the snakes. > > Anyway, old superstitions like this are fun to explore...so, anyone know > about snakes not dying 'til sundown? > > --Melissa