I am glad you told me when they were....I really didn;t know and was worried they had slipped by me! knew in October and Oct d near gone. will give a report. Rebecca ---------- > From: Melissa Jones <tsaritsa@ix.netcom.com> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] Possum Valley Days > Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 1:44 AM > > To everyone lucky enough to be attending the Possum Valley Days > festivities this weekend: > > Please be advised that we will be eagerly awaiting a full report!! :-) > > --Melissa

In a message dated 10/30/98 3:55:12 PM, you wrote: <<William D. Ford William A. Craig>> Thanks, Bettye

Jann, Woiuld you please look for a Denton or Shumake in the will index? Thanks, Judy

The ROGERS and THORNTON families were in Tippah Co., MS by 1830s and came to Drew Co. by 1859. They went to TX first, and came back to Drew. Tippah Co., MS (for those of you not looking at a map) is near Tishomingo. There was an old migration trail across from SC > Northern GA > Northern AL > Northern MS and into southeast AR. It was the northern route to TX, as opposed to the southern route through Louisiana (Natchez). Land was getting scarce in the southeastern states and the "west" was opening up for settlement, so folks headed west. As one of the early settlers in MS stated in a letter to his relatives in SC, "I can be poor easier in MS than I can in SC." I thought that was a wonderful statement. :-) Hope this helps. Karen Groce On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 KESSAROSE@aol.com wrote: > Jeannie Mitchell wrote: > >Can anyone tell me if there was some sort of migration trail or connection > >between Tishomingo Co, Miss & Drew Co., Ark >> > > I am also very interested in what drew people to Drew Co between 1849-1860; > mine didn't come from MS, but some came from NC and others from TN, and all of > them came during that span of time. > amy > >

>Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:37:42 -0700 >From: "Jann Woodard" <jann.woodard@eudoramail.com> >Subject: [ARDREW-L] Early Will Index >To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > >For those of you who might not have this information, there is an index to early wills in Drew Co. I have a copy of the index and don't mind looking for your surnames. > >Jann > > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > >Jann- If you have time- could you look for a will on D.A. Trammell- died in 1923 there in Monticello. Thanks Vicci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Thanks,I think I know where one is and maybe if not I can order them through the lib.someway. Linda Hill Jonesboro Ar l1326h@bscn.com ---------- > At 5:08 PM -0800 10/29/98, Linda Hill wrote: > >Where would I go to find ww1 draft reg? Is it on the net somewhere? > > > Linda, > > These Arkansas WWI draft registration cards aren't on the net as far as I > know. (If someone knows differently, please advise!) > >

To everyone lucky enough to be attending the Possum Valley Days festivities this weekend: Please be advised that we will be eagerly awaiting a full report!! :-) --Melissa

>Everybody at Smokey is very busy gathering their crops. Several have picked over their cotton once. There was not much cotton made in this part of the country this year. Thanks , Jann. Now, here is another interesting community. It must be close to the Collins-Cominto area as these Bowdens lived around that area, but just exactly where? Does anyone know? Also, that area is close to the SEVEN DEVILS. There must be an awful lot of communities in those 30 square miles of Georgia-Pacific woods behind my house that have disappeared.BETH

Beth Thurman (terrilee@ipa.net) wrote: >In fact, I think I stated that I had been wrong before, and that I very >well could be wrong again. I simply thought we were trying to find out for >sure where Rainbow was. I apologize if I have offended anyone. Hi, everyone, It's great that we have such easy access to information through this mailing list. Please remember, though, that one of the drawbacks to online communication is that smiles, tones of voice, etc., don't come across very well in e-mail. So sometimes you can interpret things in a way completely different from what the sender intended. We are very lucky on this list to have such a great group of people working together towards a common goal--learning about and preserving the genealogy & history of Drew County. Some lists I am on are a waste of bandwidth, with all the negativity and hostility they contain. I count my blessings every day that y'all are such an easy bunch to get along with. <g> Just wanted to say keep up the good work!! Always remember the spirit of this list, which is to share. With regard to the "where is Rainbow" question, let's gather all the evidence we can (both hard evidence & circumstantial), lay it out on the table, and see what develops! Best wishes to all, Melissa

Jann, Thanks for all the family news. No need to (sic) on Shirley Haisty :) He was my dad's BROTHER, Yep! They named boys Shirley. Carolyn

At 06:34 PM 10/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >Beth has said that I am wrong about where the Carpenters lived. I I don't think I said you were wrong. I think I said that I'd never heard of it, and that I was trying to find out from some of the Old Timers where it might have been. In fact, I think I stated that I had been wrong before, and that I very well could be wrong again. I simply thought we were trying to find out for sure where Rainbow was. I apologize if I have offended anyone.

I think there was some connection with parts of Miss and Drew CO AR. I was reading a book called "Sullivan Hollow" tracing what may be some of my relatives. The hollow is in southeast MS. However, the book talked about a road through there to Monticello AR. I found it curious that is was such a specific reference to such a small place. There must have been some connection. See ya, Hal Sullivan At 04:41 PM 10/29/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 6:55 PM -0500 10/29/98, Jeannie Mitchell wrote: >>Can anyone tell me if there was some sort of migration trail or connection >>between these two counties? I have an ancestor, Henry O. NASH, who was in >>Old Tishomingo Co., Miss in 1850, Drew Co., AR in 1860 and eventually (by >>1880) in Independence Co., AR. Seemed an odd route of traveling to me. > > >Jeannie, you are hitting on one of my favorite subjects. I'd also love to >know what the big 'draw' was around this time frame. > >Our Loveless ancestor, John Wesley, brought his wife and children over to >Drew County from Tishomingo County, MS, around 1858/9. He travelled with >two of his brothers, Joshua and George. Apparently also making this trip >from Tishomingo, MS with the Lovelesses was the J.J. Duboice family. > >Now, according to cousin Lynn White, J.J.'s big brother W.P. Duboice was >already over here by that time. He must have gotten word back to >Tishomingo that Drew County was a pretty good place to be. I will have to >ask cousin Lynn whenabouts the first Duboice family came over. From the >census records, W.P. Duboice was in Tishomingo Co. in 1850, but in Drew Co. >in 1860. Same for all the Lovelesses I mentioned. > >Mr. Ed Sanders of the Ark. Genealogical Society also had some Tishomingo >County ancestors who made the move to Drew County around the same general >time frame--the Bussell family. > >So there does seem to be a nice little connection between the two counties. >I'd be interested in learning of more families who made this move! Would >be glad to compare notes on where the Duboice & Loveless families were >living after I get home tonight and can check my census notes. :-) > >Oh, and you asked about migration--I would like to listen to the tape again >to get the details (it's at the Drew Co. archives), but Ida Belle Knowles >Grubbs (a granddaughter of John Wesley Loveless mentioned above) said that >her aunts remembered crossing the Mississippi River on a flat-bottomed boat >coming over to Drew Co. > >--Melissa > > > >

Dr. R.L. Downey's brother of Ladelle, spent last week with him. About twenty-five people of this vicinity were invited down to a birthday dinner with Mr. W.A. Blooming. There was a very appetizing table spread of barbecued pork and delicious pies and cakes. Everyone enjoyed the day. The Misses Owens spent the week-end in Wilmar. Mrs. Norton Whitaker, of McGehee, spent last week with home folks. The Happy Worker's Club met with Mrs. F.M. Barrett, Wednesday, Oct. 21. Miss Ashe and her mother were with them. Miss Ashe gave several demonstrations with Cottage Cheese. They were then invited into the dining room where delicious refreshments were served. The room was beautifully decorated with lilac and roses. The roll was called finding ten members present, two new members and one visitor. The meeting is one that will long be remembered. The next meeting will be held with Mrs. Charles Appleberry, Nov. 18. Mr. and Mrs. Virgil Whiteaker have moved to Lake Village where Mr. Whiteaker is connected with the Benton Miller Oil Co. We wish Mr. Whiteaker the best of success. Sorry to report Mrs. W.A. Blooming on the sick list. Everyone come to the Hallowee'n Program, Oct. 30th and laugh and grow fat. Mr. Fred Spence made a business trip to Little Rock last week. Mr. W.C. Dickson, Miss Annie Barrett, Mr. G.A. Summerall, Miss Aileen Dickson and Miss Vivian Barrett took birthday dinner with Mr. Waron Spivey last Saturday. Little Ruby Dickson is on the sick list this week. Hope she will soon be able to be up. Mrs. S.P. Haisty was a visitor to Tillar, Monday. Mr. W.R. Dishongh sold ten bales of cotton Monday. Mr. Lowe made a trip to Monticello last Friday. Mrs. Tommie Posey from the Lindal farm was a visitor in town last Thursday. Mr. Shirley (sic) Haisty of Grady, spent the week-end with homefolks. Mr. Vernon Dickson made a trip to Monticello Friday. The Grady boys basketball team played Selma Firday. The score was 10 to 8 in favor of Selma. The boys did some fine playing for the condition the court was in, it being slick on account of so much rain. Quarterly conference was held Sunday, Bro. Parker, the presiding Elder, preached at eleven o'clock. A bountiful dinner was served on the ground. At two o'clock a business meeting was called after which we all enjoyed some real good singing. Mr. J.T. Barrett from the A. & M College at Monticello spent the week-end with homefolks. Mr. G. Dishongh spent the weekend with homefolks. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Jann Woodard wrote: > Monticellonian September 24, 1891 page 2 (published every Thursday) > March 18, 1942 Obits for Mrs. Octavia Thomasson Montgomery at Wilmar > > Same date: obits for J.D. Ratteree, Reech Pharris Cruce and Edgar Spencer. > Feb. 19, 1942: Ruby Ferguson of Ladelle and Terrell Spencer of Monticello----marriage article Thanks Jann, Wish I could go with you!!!

Drew Advance Oct. 2, 1917: Well after being absent for the past week, I will venture to ask admittance. Everybody at Smokey is very busy gathering their crops. Several have picked over their cotton once. There was not much cotton made in this part of the country this year. Mr. W.H. Bowden and little daughter, Donnie were visitors to Monticello Saturday. Sorry to report Miss Emma Curry on the sick list this week. Mr. and Mrs. Dan Curry spent Sunday with Mr. and Mrs. Levi Gipson. Mr. and Mrs. Tom Swan of Dermott were visitors here Saturday and Sunday. Misses May Bowden and Mamie Moses were guests of Miss Emma Curry Sunday afternoon. Rev. A.D. Jacks of Shady Grove, was a guest of his sister, Mrs. Mary Bowden Saturday morning. Mrs. Ola Mae Bobbitt of Deane is visiting her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Charlie Berry, of this place this week. Mr. Will Rash and little daughter, Susie, made a trip to Monticello, Saturday. Mr. Ray Berry killed a big wilddcat down near the "Seven'devils" two or three weeks ago. Well as news is scarce this week, I will bid you au revoir. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Hi Jeannie in Texas, There was a lot of westward migration going on then.... always in search of better soil. This move westward was only interrupted by the Civil War. Quite a few families in Drew and Ashley counties that I know of are from Tishomingo County. Since that is a hilly area, perhaps they tired of the flat delta and moved northward back to the hills of MO. Best regards, Rebecca DeArmond rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/ ---------- > From: Jeannie Mitchell <JeannieMitchell@compuserve.com> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] Tishomingo Co, Miss & Drew Co., Ark > Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 5:55 PM > > > > Can anyone tell me if there was some sort of migration trail or connection > between these two counties? I have an ancestor, Henry O. NASH, who was in > Old Tishomingo Co., Miss in 1850, Drew Co., AR in 1860 and eventually (by > 1880) in Independence Co., AR. Seemed an odd route of traveling to me. > > Also, this NASH line is on my father's side. I have the EVANS line on my > mother's side and they were in Drew Co., AR in 1850. What was going on in > Drew Co., AR in 1850/60 that would bring both of these families to that > area? > > Jeannie in TX

In case it is of benefit to anyone, in the 1870 Drew Co census, Ferguson Twp, enumerated 23 Aug: dwelling 25, family 25: BOWDEN, Jesse, 32, farmer, b AR; (with) Eddie (hard to read, but was listed as a female), 7 b AR; and Reese, 5 b AR and if anyone is interested, I also copied the records for the following families that year: LYLE, Thomas CAVANESS, Lurana WELLS, Marshall GREEN, Daniel M BORDEAUX, Francis LAMB, Thomas GREEN, William CHESTNUT, John MATHEWS, Edward JOHNSON, William CHESTNUT, Henry CHESTNUT, John H JETER, John A CHESTNUT, Chris JETER, William S BORDOUX (sic), Robert H WINNINGHAM, William FRYAR, Sarah CLEGG, Benjamin FRYAR, Isaac BISHOP, Elizabeth BASSETT, James JETER, John A ( a 2nd one) LUCKETT, William GULLEDGE, Joel LUCKETT, Lucretia SKINNER, ?? WHITE, Samantha HARRIS, Sarah McNEESE, R R GULLEDGE, Thomas ERWIN, susan LAMB, Thomas ( 2nd one) LARKINS, William JETER, William GRISOM, William HOGUE, John A HOGUE, James H CAVANESS, Jonathan CLOWER, Jonathan GREEN, Lewis CHESTNUTT, Emily ROBINSON, Joseph ****

At 6:55 PM -0500 10/29/98, Jeannie Mitchell wrote: >Can anyone tell me if there was some sort of migration trail or connection >between these two counties? I have an ancestor, Henry O. NASH, who was in >Old Tishomingo Co., Miss in 1850, Drew Co., AR in 1860 and eventually (by >1880) in Independence Co., AR. Seemed an odd route of traveling to me. Jeannie, you are hitting on one of my favorite subjects. I'd also love to know what the big 'draw' was around this time frame. Our Loveless ancestor, John Wesley, brought his wife and children over to Drew County from Tishomingo County, MS, around 1858/9. He travelled with two of his brothers, Joshua and George. Apparently also making this trip from Tishomingo, MS with the Lovelesses was the J.J. Duboice family. Now, according to cousin Lynn White, J.J.'s big brother W.P. Duboice was already over here by that time. He must have gotten word back to Tishomingo that Drew County was a pretty good place to be. I will have to ask cousin Lynn whenabouts the first Duboice family came over. From the census records, W.P. Duboice was in Tishomingo Co. in 1850, but in Drew Co. in 1860. Same for all the Lovelesses I mentioned. Mr. Ed Sanders of the Ark. Genealogical Society also had some Tishomingo County ancestors who made the move to Drew County around the same general time frame--the Bussell family. So there does seem to be a nice little connection between the two counties. I'd be interested in learning of more families who made this move! Would be glad to compare notes on where the Duboice & Loveless families were living after I get home tonight and can check my census notes. :-) Oh, and you asked about migration--I would like to listen to the tape again to get the details (it's at the Drew Co. archives), but Ida Belle Knowles Grubbs (a granddaughter of John Wesley Loveless mentioned above) said that her aunts remembered crossing the Mississippi River on a flat-bottomed boat coming over to Drew Co. --Melissa

Beth has said that I am wrong about where the Carpenters lived. I talked with my 80 year old sister-in-law and was going on information provided by her - not my own knowledge. Two Carpenter sisters married two Haisty men and I felt that she should know. I am in touch with lots of the Carpenter-Haisty descendants and Carpenter-Sedberry descendants. I can only say that where I have been told that they lived (perhaps at a different time than Beth mentioned) was where I said earlier - between the Prairie and Enon. At least, it seems that this is where Claude Box who married a Carpenter lived - Rainbow. Now, take a Drew County map and draw a straight line from Prairie Grove cemetery to Enon and you will find RAINBOW Creek!!! (R6W,91degrees; 43 minutes) and (T13S, 33 degrees; 33minutes). There is a body of water shown at those coordinates and Rainbow Creek runs to the southeast from there. PERHAPS......this is where the old town of RAINBOW was located. Carolyn

If you take Midway Route south of Monticello on South Main, you will be headed to Long Prairie. Long Prairie was approximately seven miles long and three miles wide. According to my grandfather, Dan Wolfe, it was called 3x7. Now, I am not certain exactly where the upper end of the Prairie began, but it was somewhere close to the Will Boykins, Otho Wells, and Delton Rogers places. This is also the beginning of what was called Paradise. In fact, Mr. Wells was the postmaster once. Now, I've spoken to Mrs. Bud West, who was a Warren, and now deceased, as well as Mr. Waymond Griffin, who was a half-brother to Mr. West, and the best that I can ascertain was that there was a split(falling out) in some church and one was created there, which was called Prairie Hall. It later had a split and ceased to exist. Because the church was called Prairie Hall, the lower section of the north end of Long Prairie(above Lone Sassafras Cemetery) began to be called Prairie Hall. The area east of Lone Sassafras Cemetery was Pleasant Grove. Pleasant Grove also went south of the cemetery to the curve where the Scharf place was (later Murray Funderburg). Once the curve is rounded somewhere between the old Roy Rial place and the Odessa Wallis/Elray Wallis place, the community of Prairie Grove starts and goes to slightly below the Ashley Co. line. Some people call the road from town all the way down the Prairie Road, but most modern people call it Midway Route. The reason it began to be called Midway Route was because the mail rider carried the mail from Monticello to just below the road where the Prairie Hall church was. Then he turned left beside the present Dudley Boone place and the old Joe Griffin place and went east about a mile before turning back south. Then the mail route crossed the road running through the middle of the Pleasant Grove Community and continued south across what was called Racoon Prairie Road. A few years back a man bought a huge amount of acreage south of Pleasant Grove, which reacher to the Moring Deer Camp and farmed beans. I think it was part of the Williamson Ranch. Then a man bought it and built a hunting lodge. At that time, he fenced off the road just before the deer camp, and no one can get through there today. As a child, my grandfather and I cattle hunted, hog hunted, and searched for lost stock prior to the advent of the stock law. The Racoon Prairie part of the road started right beside the Claud Green and Maud Green place. I've come through it in a wagon with Memaw and Grandie just for fun in the 60's when my Grandie was trying to break a young horse to work. Something scared the horse and almost wrecked us, but Grandie managed to calm the young horse and get us out of the "pickle." The Racoon Prairie part of Midway Route ended when it crossed what today is called the Gates Mainline Road, which is the old road bed of the train sent from Wilmar and Gates Lumber Company to its various camps. From there to the present location of what is today called FIVE POINT Junction, the road split Midway wide open. At the present time, when the road leaves the pavement by the Boone place, it goes through nothing but pine forests of Georgia-Pacific with the exception of the stretch of farm land where the lodge was or is. Dale Handley bought this and farms it presently. At any rate, Long Praire was made up of several communities. Today people think the Prairie means Prairie Grove Community, but this is not actually true. We are the lower end of the Prairie and Prairie Hall and Paradise were the upper end. By the way, once Midway Route gets to the corner of the old Dan Wolfe place(my place now), the name changes back to Prairie Road on the new 9ll addresses. This is because the mail from that point on comes out of Hamburg. Therefore , the road from Monticello postoffice is Midway Rt., and from the Hamburg Post Office , it is Prairie Road. Hopefully, I have helped someone.BETH