In a message dated 11/5/98 5:43:37 PM Central Standard Time, COWANPAT@aol.com writes: << AR Death Index: Cleveland Co.: Heflin, Jesse D. 11/7/1933 >> Does anyone know who the above Jesse D Heflin was.....could he have been the Jesse Heflin, b c 1906, son of George H Heflin and Catherine Lamb?? amy

I went to the library yesterday and looked in the AR Death Indexes for my great grandfather, John Robert Neel. I knew he had died after 23 Oct 1938 and before 6 April 1940 in Chicot Co. I'd previously sent three money orders to AR Vital Records, providing them with the above info, and also told them that he may have spelled his name Neal instead of Neel. Each time they responded that they had no record of his death........found him as J R Neal, Chicot Co, d 16 Oct 1939. So for any of you who might rely on AR Vital Records for help in locating a definite death date and certificate, just remember that if they don't get the exact spelling of a name, you may not get good results from them. amy

In a message dated 11/5/98 2:42:49 PM Central Standard Time, jann.woodard@eudoramail.com writes: << Under State Deaths listed in the Gazette on Jan 3 1908: Roy McNeese, near Monticello, Dec. 31.>> Roy was married to Helen Francis Bordeaux, who was a sister to my grandfather. In the Bordeaux family Bible, which I now have, Helen's mother (and my great grandmother) recorded Roy's death as 29 Dec 1907. amy

This is for Jo-Ann Stevens: It was returned as undeliverable when trying to send it privately. Marshfield, Mo. - Dale W. Hilburn, 66 of Marshfield, Mo., died Tuesday, Oct. 27, 1998, of acute leukemia. Mr. Hilburn served in the U. S. Army during the Korean conflict. He completed his B. S. and Master's Degrees in Education. He served as the director of Migrant Education for the state of Florida before becoming the Director of Middle and Secondary Education. Survivors include his wife, Deena Beason Hilburn; one daughter, Nicole Bredbenner of O'Fallon, Mo.; one son, Todd Hilburn of Marshfield; one grandson, Dean William Bredbenner, O'Fallon; three brothers, Jim Hilburn, Hot Springs, Bill Hilburn, Hensley, Wayne Hilburn, Tillar; two sisters, Willene Smith, Gould, Linda Millwood, Pickens. funeral services were held October 30, in the First Baptist Church, Marshfield. Burial was in the Marshfield Cemetery by Fraker Funeral Home. This is the Hilburn that I mentioned the other day - he was in college when I was there. I was surprised to see his age, but then realized that he had been in Korea and come back to college. He was from Tillar. All his siblings listed live in Arkansas. Hot Springs, Hensley, Tillar, Gould and Pickens are in Arkansas. Marshfield, MO is just east of Springfield. Carolyn

Davie, I am sure that you are too young to remember this, but during W W II, times were still hard. The depression following the crash of the stock market made many people penniless. This continued into the war years. I was born in Tillar which was on a main rail line through the delta area of Arkansas. Many of these penniless/homeless men rode the rails, looking for work, doing odd jobs - whatever they could to obtain a meal. These men were not always bums; some seemed to be well educated men down on their luck. They would get off the boxcars and come around to the homes in Tillar looking for food. They always came to the back door and were curteous and never caused trouble. Offering to do odd jobs for a meal was their M. O. These sad men had a system, known to all of them, which alerted others in their situation as to which house from which they could expect to find nourishment. This system was a mark made on a fence or tree, etc. They were called tramps or hobos. In those days, there was no phrase "politically correct"....just hard times for most Americans. Sugar and gasoline were among the items rationed during the war. Ration stamps were needed to obtain them. If you ran out of ration stamps, you did without. New cars were extremely hard to come by. People had to put their names on a waiting list to get a new car. I remember these hobos and it is a part of my early childhood that I will never forget, since I experienced their plight personally. Carolyn

Is a "tramp" like...uh.....a homeless person....uh? Not too "political correct" in 1895, I guess! <g> davie -----Original Message----- From: Jann Woodard <jann.woodard@eudoramail.com> To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:28 PM Subject: [ARDREW-L] Drew Advance 1895 > >Drew Advance Feb. 12, 1895: > >A tramp was found in a box car of the compress one morn. last week nearly frozed to death. > > >Jann

In a message dated 11/5/98 10:40:58 PM, you wrote: <<Ration stamps were needed to obtain them. If you ran out of ration stamps, you did without. >> All of Carolyn's statements are very true and bring back the memories of my Grandparents Carl & Caddie Gibson of Bradley Co. AR sending me some of their stamps for shoes, as I was growing and changing shoe sizes very fast. I also remember that the day before rationing, we had a tire blow out. My Father just rolled it out in the woods as he changed the new tire for the flat one. When the news broke of rationing, he promptly went back to that spot and retrieved the tire to have it fixed. Hard times put many a man off the trains and to our back door to get a plate of food. They were appreciative and respectful of others property and were a part of our lives back then. As my Grandchildren say in the "olden days". But have we not, through the years, as a nation lost some of our feelings of that need to help others, respect each other and the standards set by family ties and obligations? Could we or our children walk up to a back door anywhere and feel so sure of being welcomed? For that matter would we be safe riding the rails..not from what we see on the news! Bettye

Jan. 3, 1908 listed under state deaths: Roy McNeese, near Monticello, Dec. 31. Claude Ford, 20 years of age, at Monticello, Dec. 25. Jan. 7, 1908: Walter Boon, a barber, late of McGehee, died at the home of his father, George Boon, near this town Saturday evening and was buried yesterday evening. Boon had for some time been following his trade at McGehee. Last Tuesday night word was received here over telephone that he had either been heavily "doped" or had attempted suicide. George and Jesse Boon, father and brother of the dead man, at once went to McGehee. They found him in a very dangerous condition and at once brought him back home to Monticello. For a time he seemed to be improving, but he never recovered sufficiently to give an intelligent account of the cause of his illness. A bottle of morphine was found in his room but no reason whatever can be assigned for suicide. The physicians say the the direct cause of his death was appendicitis, and it is thought that possibly he was taking the morphine to relieve the pain of an attack of this ailment and in some manner got an overdose. Same date: E.H. Dozier and Miss Benejene Moore, both of this city, were married at the Methodist parsonage yesterday morning, Rev. R.R. Moore the father of the bride performing the ceremony. The bride and groom are popular young people of this city. Mr. Dozier, though a native of this town, was until recently engaged in the mercantile business in Argenta. The bride is the eldest daughter of Rev. R.R. Moore, the Methodist Pastor. They will be at home for the present at the Killian House. Jan. 10, 1908: Helen Anderson the five year old daughter of Mr. and Mrs. H.W. Anderson of Wilmar, died Wednesday from the effects of injuries received recently when her clothing caught fire from an open fireplace. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Feb. 1, 1942 page 4 col 1: The marriage of Miss Ruby Ferguson of Ladelle and Terrell Spencer, Jr., of Monticello was solemnized on Friday evening, February 13 at 8 o'clock at the parsonage of the First Methodist Church of Little Rock with Rev. Warren Johnston, pastor, performing the impressive single ring ceremony. For her wedding the bride was smartly attired in a dress of navy sheer with which she wore beige accessories. Mrs. Spencer is completing her senior year at Drew Central. Mr. Spencer is a graduate of the Monticello High School and attended the University of Arkansas for one year and was a Junior at the A&M college at the time of his marriage. He is the oldest son of Mr. and Mrs. Terrell Spencer and a member of old and prominent families in Drew County. After a brief wedding trip, Mr. and Mrs. Spencer are now at home in Monticello. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

I received the nicest anonymous note in the mail from a Drew list member--------!!!! I wonder who did that??--I don't suppose anyone wants to "fess-up"---do they??????? Anyway, it was a very nice gesture and I appreciate it. Drew Advance Feb. 12, 1895: Married: Mr. C.T. Kennedy to Miss Lily Harvill, at the Methodist church in this city by Rev. J.McLauchian. No cards were out but the church was crowded by friends and well wishers of the contracting parties. The groom is one of Monticello's post progressive young business men and the bride is the sister of Mrs. A.E. Harris and stands high in society circles. The Advance joins with their many friends in wishing them a long and properous life full of happiness and sunshine. Married: Mrs. J.D. Priest of Monticello, to Miss Etta Johnson of Garnett on Wednesday, Jan. 30th. Rev. Vick officiating. The Advance tenders its best wishes for a long and happy life to the newly weeded couple. We are sorry to report that Mr. Geddings Roddy is not improving very rapidly. A tramp was found in a box car of the compress one morn. last week nearly frozed to death. Mrs. A.J. Shine (sic) has gone to Burgaw, North Carolina to visit her parents, Mr. and Mrs. W.T. Hodges. She will probably be absent several months. Mr. Dave Caldwell has returned from a trip through South Ark. and North La. Dr. W.J. Hamm left for St. Louis last week to purchase mules for this market. Last Thursday was the coldest day yet born--and we wish it had died during the operation. Mrs. J.M. Barker has returned to her home in Arkansas City after a weeks visit to her parents in this city. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Sandra, I only found one of the names you requested the lookup for: Drew Co.: Fleming, Robert Edw 2/24/1936 I also found the following and thought they may be of some help: Ashley Co.: Donham, J.L. 4/19/1933 Donham, Langal 8/8/1924 Cleveland Co.: Heflin, Jesse D. 11/7/1933 Drew Co.: Donham, M. L. 10/10/1931 Donham, Susan Cat 2/19/1925 Arkansas Co.: Fleming, Violet P. 12/27/1936 Pat

Well, I finally got back to the LDS Family History Center last night and started extracting these records! The roll of film I have is for Drew County men with surnames beginning with letters H through Z. When I am finished extracting this roll, I will order the roll for surnames A-H. I will have this H-Z microfilm until January, so if you would like a lookup, please e-mail me privately (just to save ARDREW space), and if possible, so I can keep the lookup requests straight, use subject line: WWI lookup Judy Hadokowitz, I hope that when I am finished extracting this half of the names, we can put the results on the Drew County web site. Please let me know if this would be possible. And now, here are the HAISTYs I found on the roll of Drew County WWI draft registrations: name: Carroll HAISTY address: Midway, AR d.o.b.: 21 Aug 1886 age: 30 color: W born: Collins, AR date: 5 June 1917 name: Jesse Newyear HAISTY address: Midway, AR d.o.b.: 1 Jan 1884 age: 24 color: W date: 9 Sep 1918 name: John Sherwood HAISTY address: Selma, AR d.o.b.: 14 Feb 1895 age: 22 color: W born: Selma, AR date: 5 June 1917 name: Willie Preston HAISTY address: Monticello, AR d.o.b.: 4 Dec 1896 age: 21 color: W born: Midway, AR date: 5 June 1918 Unfortunately, the draft cards filled out on September of 1918 don't give the place of birth the way the other cards do. --Melissa

INDUSTRIAL AND SOUVENIR EDITION OF THE ADVANCE Monticello, Arkansas, Tuesday, December 17, 1907 John Ahrens' Sons The larger part of the insurance business of Monticello as well as a large part of the business of several adjoining counties is controlled by the firm of John Ahrens' Sons. This firm was established in 1883 by John Ahrens who personally conducted the business for nearly twenty years, his death occurring in 1902. By industry, ability and fair dealing Mr. Ahrens built up the largest insurance business in this immediate portion of the state. At his death the business was taken in charge of by his sons and the style of the firm changed to John Ahrens' sons, the eldest son, Darwin, becoming the head of the business. All three of Mr. Ahrens' sons were originally interested, but the youngest son, Elmo and has dropped out and is now located in Hamburg and the firm at present is composed of Darwin and Albert Ahrens. Under their management the business has continued to prosper. They now represent 51 fire insurance companies besides life, accident, etc., and the combined assets of their different companies will total about $800,000,000. They represent only the best companies operating in this section of the country and they are doing an extensive business in the neighboring counties of Ashley, Chicot, Desha, Lincoln and Bradley in addition to Drew. The business was at first established as a fire insurance agency only, but its scope has been enlarged till now the firm writes all sorts of insurance including life stock, making of bonds, etc. Their live stock insurance is handled through the Indiana & Ohio Live Stock Insurance Company of Crawfordsville, Ind., which has just entered this state and which is the largest and oldest compnay of its kind in the United States. It is worthy of mention that no customer of John Ahrens' sons has ever lost a dollar through the failure of any of their companies. They always cheerfully and promptly reinsure a customer under such circumstances, giving credit for any unearned premium. They have done this at a heavy loss to themselves at times, but they have never departed from the rule. They are now installed in an office on South Main Street which they recently bought and handsomely fitted up. They solicit all insurance business of whatsoever kind and all persons dealing with them are assured of the lowest current rates and the best and most reliable companies. Carolyn

I'm not sure that this will be where you wanted the request to go as I used reply to author on the comp.,I still haven't figured out how to use this think yet and you have all sounds like you really know about its use with all the talk of how to get your works to Dav to do your BIG family tree.I think it is great I just wished I know how to just make my things go in a folder let a lone sent it to another person. Maybe someday I will get the time and money to take some classes.So much for that I'm just taking up a lot of your time and space,but would you mind looking to see if there is any HINTON on your list?Thank you.Linda Linda Hill Jonesboro Ar l1326h@bscn.com ---------- > Well, I finally got back to the LDS Family History Center last night and > started extracting these records!

Yes, Carolyn....this was my "surprise" for you. Rebecca > > Mary Lynn, welcome to the list! Rebecca said that an classmate of > mine was joining the list. You may be the one she was talking about. > I > > Carolyn Haisty > jhaisty@tcac.com >

Welcome aboard, Mary Lynn! Rebecca [sister to yr dear friend, Olivia...ha] ---------- > From: DHP3838@aol.com > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] Mary Lynn Pickering > Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 1:06 PM > > Hello to everyone. This is my first entry. Caperton is my maiden name, > Clyde(Sid) Caperton my father, Sara Cruce Caperton my mother. Both are > deceased. I live in Little Rock, Ar and have been gone from Drew Co since > 1959. I keep in touch with my girlhood dearest friend Olivia DeArmond so I'm > still connected and interested.So long for now. Mary L.

Melissa...I see no one has answered you re this. I dont believe I have ever head this term before. I looked in A TO ZAX but not in there. I ASSUME it may refer to a frame [plank] house as oppposed to a log house. Maybe this is one for the old oldtimers. Rebecca ps...Lynn, have you ever heard of such? > However, on the next land application, Micajah Knowles stated that he had > built on the property a "box house". What in the world is a box house? > And how did you build it? > > > hewed-log dwelling house > plank barn > corn crib > 2 wells (Dad says he knows where 2 old wells are; hope they are these!) > log smoke house

JTramm3127 is a Texarkana Trammell. She might be able to help you. I am not sure where her husbands line came from in AR. But she is very involved in the United Daughters of the Confederacy in the state of Arkansas, so she might have some knowledge. I know what you mean by distance being a problem. Bettye Bond Carlisle, PA

Okay- I've been seeing all the rest of you get connections and answers- and talk about sending your gedcoms fo Drew County- and my gedcom on Drew would be about three words- so I'm gonna ask if anyone can help. My Trammell line goes something like this: D.A. (David on the 1900 census; Daniel on the 1910- we think David is right because that's what my husband's name is). Born 08/18/1853 in AL parents unknown but census says father was born in AL and mother was born in GA. Married in AR in 1878. He owned a saloon, then in 1910 he lists his occupation as manager in the water industry. Wife's name is Ella Siff- born 11/28/1858 in AR- parents both from TN. The children are: 1. Walter b. 1879 in AR 2. Freddie b. 1881 in AR married in 1904 to a man named Ahrens- don't know what happened to him- she is living with her parents again in 1910- along with her 2 kids; Maude b. 1906 and Trammell Ahrens b. 1908 3. Warren b. 1889 in AR 4. Monroe b. 1892 in AR 5. Joseph b. 1896 in AR 6. Bertie Clara b. 1897 in AR Can anyone connect me to anything- or have any suggestions on how I can get any records that would help. I'm having a hard time getting any films of records out here in CA and would appreciate any help or guidance y'all can give. I volunteer to do any CA research if any of your relatives were dumb enought to come to CA- especially gold rush people. Thanks Vicci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Subject: Carolyn, This part of the message got dropped from my last email (I'm not doing very well at this lately): Thomas Newton Scifres was the brother to Mary Jane Scifres Burr, my great-grandmother. The Scifres family came from Indiana, before that, Kentucky, before that, Pa, I think. I have a few of them back to 1743, direct line only. The name Arvin Chance is not familiar to me. I don't have much on the Chances except the one line. I don't know of Chester Meek. My Meeks was Annie, born in Union Parish La. in 1859. Her father was Joseph A. Meeks, born in 1830 in Alabama. Her mother was Harriet Ann Auld. Joseph A.'s father was Mark Meeks, born in 1795 in Pendleton, S.C. His father was John Littleton Meeks, born in 1766. I don't have much on them, again, except my direct line. I would be happy to converse with anyone of the same Surname. Thank you very much for the info. Jane Re: This is for Jane McBride: I am going to throw a few names at you and if they mean anything, let me know. Does Chester Meek mean anything to you? His daughter Joanne lives in Monticello. My first cousin's son married a Meek also. My husband's uncle married Winnie Estelle Scifres, daughter of Thomas Newton Scifres and Mary Savilla Johnson. Winnie's sister-in law and neice live in Monticello. Arvin Chance married Florence Jacks (she taught many of us) also from Lincoln County. She was the elementary principal when my mother began to teach at Drew Central. Two years later, Florence Jacks Chance moved to the 7th grade and my mother became principal. I spent many hours in the home of Florence before and after her marriage to Arvin Chance. They were engaged while he served in World War II. When he returned, they were married. Florence had a nephew named Perry Jacks who lived in Star City, I believe. Lucy Mae Haisty in the list of 1946 teachers was my mother. The McKinstry ladies that Karen Groce mentioned - Artie Belle McKinstry Robinson, Lela McKinstry Willis and Edna Lee McKinstry Groce were her cousins - their mother was my mother's first cousin. Let me know if you would like to talk with someone in the Scifres or Meeks families. Carolyn