Jo-Ann, I think Julia Lee's family was from MS, her father could possibly have been John Monroe Lee, However, I have no proof of this. Caroline Lee and Silas Stephenson were married in Claiborne Parrish, LA. >Gail: > >Do you know in what county these Lees lived? Most of my line came from MS >into Desha Co. although a few lived in neighboring counties (like Drew). I >don't think I have these particular individuals but I'll double check.

Arkansas Gazette Jan. 13, 1908 page 5 col 5: Pine Bluff, Jan 12 - Mrs. Fannie J. Allen, mother of Professor J.R. Allen, principal of the Sixth Avenue school, died of pneumonia at 4 o'clock Saturday morning at the home of her son, #815 Pine St. She was 60 years old. She lived with her son here for about one year, ever since the death of her husband, which occurred at their home in Drew County. In addition to Professor Allen, she leaves another son, Fletcher Allen of Collins, Ark., and a daughter, Mrs. Sallie Thomasson of Allis, Ark. The funeral took place from the residence this morning at 9:30 o'clock. The body will be sent to her old home in Drew county for interment. Pallbearers were A.W. Nunn, A.T. Whitelaw, Phil Crutcher, W.P. Keith, U.W. Poss, George H. Gammill, J.H. Mann and F.W. Eck. Rev. J.S. Rogers, pastor of the Ohio St. Baptist church, conducted the services. The Monticellonian Oct. 20, 1892: Oct. 18, 1892 - Luella: Not having seen anything in your paper from this neighborhood for quite a while, I will endeavor to send in a few items, which I hope you will see fit to insert in the Monticellonian. When I say our neighborhood, I mean the vicinity of Luella, or better known perhaps as the settlement of Piney. Notwithstanding our obscurity, we are pleased to boast of two public schools, two sawmills and cotton gins, a store and a blacksmith shop. Mrs. C. Allen is visiting relatives at Hot Springs. Mr. John Allen is convalescent from a severe attack of slow fever. Mrs. Chas. Hogue, principal of one of the schools at this place was with us again last Sunday although he is spending a short trip abroad, he seems to have special business here on Sundays. By: Billy The Kid Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Does anyone know who the parents were for either of these two Lee's? Lee, Julia C. (29 MAR 1868-25 MAR 1936) was my ggrandmother on my father's side, married to Deal, William Layfayette (21 JUN 1864-24 SEP 1936). Lee, Mary Francis Caroline (18 NOV 1837-1894) was a gggrandmother married to Stephenson, Silas Austin (1830-18 APR 1865). Thanks, Gail (Deal) Howell > >LEE, Edward Downey >B. Oct. 23, 1938 >D. Apr. 24, 1966 > >LEE, Jack >B. June 15, 1931 >D. Nov. 19, 1983 > >LEE, James Haston >B. Jan. 24, 1904 >D. July 14, 1989 > >LEE, Jerree H. >B. 1898 >D. 1984 >Wife of Overton Lee > >

I got and it read fine, Gail. Thanks. davie -----Original Message----- From: Gail Howell <bghowell@communique.net> To: faddydaddy@worldnet.att.net <faddydaddy@worldnet.att.net> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 8:39 PM Subject: Mother of All Gedcom Files >Dave, >Please include my gedcom file. It includes a lot of Drew county, and Ashley >County people. my web page is at http://www.communique.net/~bghowell >

Gail: Do you know in what county these Lees lived? Most of my line came from MS into Desha Co. although a few lived in neighboring counties (like Drew). I don't think I have these particular individuals but I'll double check. Jo-Ann Gen Research: Stephens, Lee, Conrad, Mahurin, Merritt, Long ...and don't forget to go see my kids at http://members.aol.com/indianabyw/arts.html

Thanks Jan... Karen

Thanks, Rebecca for the name/page locations in OTNF. My children's Belin ancestry was through O J Belin, son of James W Belin and Cannie L Morrison of Bradley Co (Hermitage/Gravel Ridge). James was a deputy killed in the line of duty in 1924. I still have not figured out who "Mrs W F Belin" mentioned in the Corinth news was in relation to my children's great grandfather, but I did notice that several DeArmond names were also mentioned in the same piece. Would you know who Mrs W F Belin was (wife of William Franklin Belin, perhaps?) Also, much gratitude to Carolyn regarding the Hilliard info and to Jann for the many news pieces that make references to some of my distant relatives. And for any of you who may have Rash genealogy in your files - I received the updated family sheets from Ruth (Rash) Hobson (daughter of Pearl McNeese and Howard Rash) today and will {privately} respond to anyone interested. amy <kessarose@aol.com> .....just read in NETTIQUE that I'm supposed to be including my email address :)

Amy, IF the AR 1910 Soundex is accurate, this Jesse D. Heflin would not seem to be the son of George H. Heflin. That census has the following listings: Cleveland Co. Jessie D. Heflin, age 24, b. AR Lettie E. (wife) age 22, b. AR Drew Co. In the household of George H. Heflin, son Jessie is listed as being age 4. Martha KESSAROSE@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/5/98 5:43:37 PM Central Standard Time, COWANPAT@aol.com > writes: > > << AR Death Index: Cleveland Co.: Heflin, Jesse D. 11/7/1933 >> > > Does anyone know who the above Jesse D Heflin was.....could he have been the > Jesse Heflin, b c 1906, son of George H Heflin and Catherine Lamb?? > amy

Jo-Ann, Yes, we had several bounces for you yesterday. :-) I just re-added you to ARDREW manually. I didn't even get notification that you had been unsubbed. If you get this message, then you are re-subscribed. --Melissa >Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:13:00 -0800 (PST) >To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >From: bahai@netusa1.net (Stephens-Avery Family) >Subject: I didn't mean to leave, honest... > >HELP!!! > >I assume that I've been bumped from ARDREW list since I haven't gotten any >messages in the past few hours. My server "accidently" cancelled my account >yesterday and so all of my messages bounced (about 100 of them!). They >assure me that all is well now so > >Mother May I have my privileges back at ARDREW please?????? Should I >re-subscribe or ??? Just let me know and I'll do it. :-) > >I think I need a drink \ _/ >make that two \_/ \_/ >no, make that a cup of hot cocoa [%]D with marshmallows... > >Jo-Ann Stephens >bahai@netusa1.net >Gen Research: Stephens, Lee, Conrad, Mahurin, Merritt, Long >...and don't forget to go see my kids at >http://members.aol.com/indianabyw/arts.html >

McClains in Old Times are: D D, Dee, Disie Trussell, Elizabeth, Ervin, Isie Harris, J K, John, Juriah Catherine Jo Gardner, Lena Downey, Lucy, Martha Sue Dunlap, Mary, Mina , Molly Fielder, Sam, Sarah, William. all on pp 256-7, except Ervin and Martha Sue on p 217. Beaty: Albert Hollis, Barbara Ann Ellis, Esta Rae Young, Jackie, Jimmy best, Rebecca rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/ ---------- > From: Savage, Lee <losavage@fbd.com> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] McClain Family > Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 1:19 PM > > Does anyone have any information on the McClain family. Albert passed away > last week. He was a son of James William. There are several McClains buried > there in Union Cemetery at Rye, Arkansas and I'm sure they're all related. I > just want to know how. Also, James' wife > was a Beaty. This info too, would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Lee

Does anyone have any information on the McClain family. Albert passed away last week. He was a son of James William. There are several McClains buried there in Union Cemetery at Rye, Arkansas and I'm sure they're all related. I just want to know how. Also, James' wife was a Beaty. This info too, would be appreciated. Thanks, Lee

Thanks, Carolyn. I have not experienced it personally, but I do remember these times through the touching, sometimes tragic, stories that were related to me during my youth. One touching story, which you may have already heard, was told by H. Ross Perot. When asked about how had learned generosity and how he had developed his "giving" nature, he said when he was a child in Texarkana, he remembered these "hobos" were literally lined up, always coming to their door during the depression and the early years of the war. He was puzzled since his mother would never turn one away. Ross noticed one day that one of the "hobos" had put a mark on the gate to "communicate" to the other "hobos" that might be passing through the area that a "good meal could be had here". He went in the house and told his mama about seeing the "mark" on the gate ("mark", a term we still use today). He asked her if he wanted him to "whitewash it off" for her so that they would not take advantage of them anymore. She said, "No, Ross, I've known it was there all along...", she continued, "They're good men, they're just down on their luck, that's all...". I guess the point I was so feebly trying to make is back then we could tell the difference between "bums" (who wanted something for nothing) and "hobos" (transcient, 'down-on-their-luck', workers). Now I feel that they're just all called "homeless", to be PC. I sincerely and humbly apologize if I have offended anyone or if I have hurt anyone's feelings. davie :o( -----Original Message----- From: John Haisty <jhaisty@tcac.com> To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:42 PM Subject: [ARDREW-L] [ARDREW] Re: Tramps >Davie, I am sure that you are too young to remember this, but during >W W II, times were still hard.... I remember these >hobos and it is a part of my early childhood that I will never forget, >since I experienced their plight personally. > >Carolyn > >

Hi, Terri, I saw your post on the STRICKLANDS from Coleman, in Drew County. My great aunt, age 84, is Mabel Strickland from Coleman, daughter of Simon Strickland. Mabel married Fred BROWN about 1930 in Drew County. Do you know if Mabel and Simon are related to James & Shelia Strickland? Thanks a lot. Bill Brown in Dallas

Vicci, that post was done with you in mind. However, I don't have anything more on the Ahrens family or Trammels. Will keep you in mind if something comes up. Carolyn

Amy, here we go again...Belins in OTNF" Annie 276; Buster 391; Florence 380; Verma M. [Tillman] Smith Carey 391. ....I like the name Buster Belin! Rebecca ---------- > From: KESSAROSE@aol.com > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Fwd: Corinth news > Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 3:55 AM > > In a message dated 11/6/98 12:00:33 AM Central Standard Time, > tsaritsa@ix.netcom.com writes: > > << Mrs. W.F. Belin gave her Sunday school class a bunking party Saturday > night. >> > Gee, ya'll are great! Belin is another of the names I'm working on. My > children were all born Belin. > amy

Corinth is veryclose to drew line. these families overlap tremendously with shiloh, possum valley, new hope, greenhill. Rebecca

>From: "John Haisty" <jhaisty@tcac.com> >Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:20:10 -0600 >Subject: [ARDREW-L] [ARDREW] John Ahrens' Sons >To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > >INDUSTRIAL AND SOUVENIR EDITION OF THE ADVANCE > Monticello, Arkansas, Tuesday, December 17, 1907 > > John Ahrens' Sons > > The larger part of the insurance business of Monticello as well >as a large part of the business of several adjoining counties is >controlled by the firm of John Ahrens' Sons. This firm was >established in 1883 by John Ahrens who personally conducted the >business for nearly twenty years, his death occurring in 1902. By >industry, ability and fair dealing Mr. Ahrens built up the largest >insurance business in this immediate portion of the state. At his >death the business was taken in charge of by his sons and the style of >the firm changed to John Ahrens' sons, the eldest son, Darwin, >becoming the head of the business. All three of Mr. Ahrens' sons were >originally interested, but the youngest son, Elmo and has dropped out >and is now located in Hamburg and the firm at present is composed of >Darwin and Albert Ahrens. > Under their management the business has continued to prosper. >They now represent 51 fire insurance companies besides life, accident, >etc., and the combined assets of their different companies will total >about $800,000,000. They represent only the best companies operating >in this section of the country and they are doing an extensive >business in the neighboring counties of Ashley, Chicot, Desha, Lincoln >and Bradley in addition to Drew. > The business was at first established as a fire insurance agency >only, but its scope has been enlarged till now the firm writes all >sorts of insurance including life stock, making of bonds, etc. Their >live stock insurance is handled through the Indiana & Ohio Live Stock >Insurance Company of Crawfordsville, Ind., which has just entered this >state and which is the largest and oldest compnay of its kind in the >United States. > It is worthy of mention that no customer of John Ahrens' sons has >ever lost a dollar through the failure of any of their companies. >They always cheerfully and promptly reinsure a customer under such >circumstances, giving credit for any unearned premium. They have done >this at a heavy loss to themselves at times, but they have never >departed from the rule. They are now installed in an office on South >Main Street which they recently bought and handsomely fitted up. They >solicit all insurance business of whatsoever kind and all persons >dealing with them are assured of the lowest current rates and the >best and most reliable companies. > > >Carolyn > > Carolyn- Would this Ahrens possibly be related to the Freddie Trammell's husband - the father of her children Trammell and Maude Ahrens? If so- perhaps we can see if there is some information on Freddie that will tie in to the Trammell mystery. Thanks Vicci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Jann is right--tons of Drew County names here! ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 11/05 6:19 PM Received: 11/05 9:59 PM From: Jann Woodard, jann.woodard@eudoramail.com Reply-To: ARBRADLE-L@rootsweb.com To: ARBRADLE-L@rootsweb.com Melissa, you might want to send this to the Drew list since these families had connections with Bradley and Drew Counties. Aug. 28, 1930 Miss Mary Barber is the guest of Miss Lena Belle Barber of O'Possum Valley. Miss Virginia Cruce is the guest of Mrs. Kimbro of Monticello this week Mrs. Paul Jolley and little daughter, Jo Ann, are the guests of her mother, Mrs. Cowan of Bulah. Mrs. W.F. Belin gave her Sunday school class a bunking party Saturday night. Those present were: Misses Verna and Faloah Jolley, Dorothy Cruce, Lula Mae Piper, Lola Rawls and Louis DeArmond and Lee O'Neil. Guests were Velma Jolley and Velton DeArmond. The party was enjoyed by everyone. The club meeting was well attended Wednesday at Mrs. L.H. Durham's. Miss Faloah Jolley spent Sunday night with Misses Audry and Lola Rawls. Oper Barber of Louisiana is the guest of Jessie Barber. Mr. and Mrs. G.M. Chapman and H.A. Chapman made a business trip to Warren Wednesday morning. Miss Earlene DeArmond is the guest of her uncle, Bob Grubbs of Eudora this week. Miss Maurice Barber spent the week-end in Greenhill. Miss Velma Jolley was the guest of Miss Faloah Jolley Monday and Tuesday. Johnnie Berry of Rock Springs is the guest of Howard Greenwood this week. Henry Hargis of Prospect is the guest of his father, C. Hargis this week. Jann ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

John Haisty wrote: > > Davie, I am sure that you are too young to remember this, but during > W W II, times were still hard. The depression following the crash of > the stock market made many people penniless. This continued into the > war years. I was born in Tillar which was on a main rail line through > the delta area of Arkansas. Many of these penniless/homeless men rode > the rails, looking for work, doing odd jobs - whatever they could to > obtain a meal. These men were not always bums; some seemed to be well > educated men down on their luck. They would get off the boxcars and > come around to the homes in Tillar looking for food. They always came > to the back door and were curteous and never caused trouble. Offering > to do odd jobs for a meal was their M. O. These sad men had a system, > known to all of them, which alerted others in their situation as to > which house from which they could expect to find nourishment. This > system was a mark made on a fence or tree, etc. They were called > tramps or hobos. In those days, there was no phrase "politically > correct"....just hard times for most Americans. Sugar and gasoline > were among the items rationed during the war. Ration stamps were > needed to obtain them. If you ran out of ration stamps, you did > without. New cars were extremely hard to come by. People had to put > their names on a waiting list to get a new car. I remember these > hobos and it is a part of my early childhood that I will never forget, > since I experienced their plight personally. > > Carolyn I can remember them coming to our house in the 30's when I was growing up. My mother never refused to feed them. She felt it was her Christian duty - "...as you have done to the least of these, so have you done to me..." (sic) Helen Leigh

In a message dated 11/6/98 12:00:33 AM Central Standard Time, tsaritsa@ix.netcom.com writes: << Mrs. W.F. Belin gave her Sunday school class a bunking party Saturday night. >> Gee, ya'll are great! Belin is another of the names I'm working on. My children were all born Belin. amy