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List: The Mama Lady and I will be in Dallas for a couple of days so I am unsubscribing from all my lists in order to get it to manageable level of stuff coming in. This doesn't mean that I want you to stop sending mail to my regular e-mail address. Bill Covey

Concerning Gates Camp The camp in Possum Valley was on the Knowles Crossing Road above 16th Section Cemetery. My parents lived there for a while. The sawdust pile may be rotted by now and there was also a pond there that we called Big Well Pond. There is an old railroad tram in the woods behind our house that ran to Gates Camp. The tram was still noticeable the last time I was down there. Rodger Dale Loveless now lives in our house. Bobbie ----------

Harold, I find Mary Ellen Sullivan born October 21, 1900, died April 2, 1943, buried at Rock Springs. There are lots of other Sullivans buried there. Do you want all of them? Which McKenneys are you interested in? Ray McKenney's family? Do you have Gene and Darlene Sullivan in your family? Wayne Bostian? A Bostian who married a Farrar? Let me know how many names you want and I will send to your private e-mail address. Carolyn jhaisty@tcac.com

Thanks for the reply. I'm sort of new to all this and was not sure that such information existed. Anyway, I am interested in the Sullivan, Bostian, Turner and McKenny families. If there are too many of them, one I specifically would like to find is Mary Sullivan who died in 1940 or 1941 in Pulaski County but I believe buried at Rock Springs. Thanks a lot, Harold At 02:38 PM 11/15/98 -0600, you wrote: >Harold, I have the cemetery books and will be happy to look for you > >Carolyn >jhaisty@tcac.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Harold G. Sullivan <hals@worldnet.att.net> > >Does anyone have a listing of the Rock Springs Cemetery? I would like >to >>check for some relatives buried there. >> >>Thanks, Harold >> > >

Regarding Rock Springs Cemetery - In a message dated 11/15 Carolyn, aka jhaisty@tcac.com wrote: << A Bostian who married a Farrar? >> Carolyn, I have a Vernitta Corrinne Farrar from Drew Co who married a William Bostian...only know of one child, Patricia. Vernitta was a daughter of Thomas E Farrar and Ruby Beatrice Sanderlin....Farrar is one of my lines. Thomas and I both descended from Thomas Farrar (1793-1859) and his wife, Judith Webb (c 1798 - 1846). Do you have any data on Vernitta, her husband or their child (children?) amy

Harold, I have the cemetery books and will be happy to look for you Carolyn jhaisty@tcac.com -----Original Message----- From: Harold G. Sullivan <hals@worldnet.att.net> Does anyone have a listing of the Rock Springs Cemetery? I would like to >check for some relatives buried there. > >Thanks, Harold >

Does anyone have a listing of the Rock Springs Cemetery? I would like to check for some relatives buried there. Thanks, Harold

Harold I have the Drew county Cemetery book, including Rock Springs Cemetery. Would be glad to help. Bettye Bond

Jann Woodard wrote: > > One of my direct lines in the Drew/Lincoln area is Hellums. Jann: Sorry, it looks like I left off the generation that had Hellums Owen and Hearn Owen. They were two of the children of Mable A. Hearn and ??Owen. I don't know their dates of birth. Hope this helps. Your information on the Robert Donald Hellums helps me also. Helen

I don't know when the Gates camps started....won't even go there because I just don't know. However, I do know they lasted into the 20's because my aunt Edna Bowden Wolfe was not b. until l9l6. Therefore, she would have been six years old in l922, the normal time for children to start to school when I was little; therefore, I assume this was probably true before. Judging from her talk, she was at least 7 or 8 upon moving to the Prairie. The camps probably started in the teens, but they were still around in the early 20's.....now, as to how much longer, I cannot say. I know there is a book about the beginning of the town of Crossett that tells some of this history, but I don't have a copy. I took some time to look in OLD TIMES, Melissa. On P. 78 rdea talks about a Shiloh Camp. This is probably the one Aunt Edna meant when she said down around l6 Section. It goes on to tell about l00 moveable houses, a school, well, store, post office, and an ice house. Cabins for two men l6 x l2..&..a hand w/ a family, 2 or 3 of the cabins placed together. When the timber was cut, cabins were loaded onto a flatcar and moved....camps were actually portable communities....life not too different fr. home except people were forced to live more closely together..........goes on to mention a Gates Billet Camp at New Hope..........so I'm not sure just which one Aunt Edna lived in , but I know she was at the Line Camp last. p. 79 says that the Company was sold to the Crossett mill, owned by another Gates , as well as a Crossett and some others, in l924.........according to Dr. C.C.Curry. This might be an indication as to when the camps closed, but then again, they could have continued under the Crossett & Gates bunch in Crossett, AR. In BEYOND BARTHOLOMEW: The Portland Area History p. 98 .....interview w/Alcus Burney the section on LINE community Gates Lumber Co. fr. Wilmar in Drew Co., "had camps and trams everywhere," .....The trains would bring the logging crews to town(assume he meant LINE) for lunch at the stores. p. 123......interview w/Alvin Bates "logging camps were built every five miles down the line" well ponds were dug to supply the steam locomotives w/ water This is also the section where rdea stated what Mr. Bates said abt. the l925 to l930.........He might have just been speculating since the book states that he was not born until l925.......he was probably guessing based on old stories he had heard....... Most likely the camp ended around l924 when Crossett took over....Aunt Edna would have been abt. 8 years old...would seem abt. the right age to believe an owl was a panther....*smile*

Jann Woodard wrote: > > One of my direct lines in the Drew/Lincoln area is Hellums. Other related lines are Owen, Prewett and Richey families. > > Robert Donald Hellums migrated to Drew Co. ca 1858. His children were: John Hellums Owen, Nathan Robert Owen, Martha A. Owen, Mary A. Owen and Jacob Andrew Owen. > > Please contact me if you have information. > > Jann > Jann: We may turn out to be related yet. Below is what I have on Hellums Owen. He was a grandson of John S. Yates, my great-great grandfather, and the son of my grandmother's (Eugenia Anne Yates McCann) sister, Josephine Yates, who married a Hearn. (Lela May McCann was my grandmother). According to notes from my mother, made in August 1976, Mable A. Hearn Owen died at age 87. She was a retired teacher of Arkansas A & M College. I do not have this family completely covered, except just from information I have gathered from Mother, and census records. Someone on this list told me that Hellums had died just recently. Descendants of John S. Yates 1 John S. Yates 1839 - Aft 1900 b: December 1839 in Mississippi d: Aft 1900 in Arkansas . +Mary F. Johns 1842 - 1903 b: November 22, 1842 in Alabama d: July 09, 1903 in Drew County, Arkansas ...... 2 Josephine Yates 1861 - Unknown b: 1861 in Arkansas d: Unknown in Monticello, Drew County, Arkansas .......... +?? Hearn Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown in ? d: Unknown in ? .............. 3 Mable A. Hearn Abt 1889 - Abt 1976 b: Abt 1889 in Arkansas? d: Abt 1976 in Monticello, Drew County, Arkansas .................. +? Owen Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown in ? d: Unknown in ? .............. 3 Hubert Hearn Unknown - 1969 b: Unknown in Arkansas? d: July 1969 in Minden, Louisiana? .............. 3 Rufus Hearn Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown in Arkansas? d: Unknown in Pine Bluff, Jefferson County, Arkansas? .............. 3 Lorene Hearn Unknown - b: Unknown .................. +Arthur Randolph Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown in ? d: Unknown in ? .............. 3 Evelyn Hearn Unknown - b: Unknown .............. 3 Lillian Hearn Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown in Arkansas d: Unknown in ? .................. +Paul Bean Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown in ? d: Unknown in ? ...... 2 Eugenia Anne Yates 1866 - 1897 b: January 14, 1866 in Barkada, Drew County, Arkansas d: August 23, 1897 in Barkada, Drew County, Arkansas .......... +John Wiley McCann 1862 - 1939 b: November 09, 1862 in Tinsman, Calhoun County, Arkansas d: December 07, 1939 in El Dorado,Union County, Arkansas .............. 3 Lela May McCann 1888 - 1976 b: April 28, 1888 in Monticello, Drew County, Arkansas d: December 18, 1976 in Dallas, Dallas County,Texas .................. +Henry Jackson Alexander 1881 - 1942 b: October 26, 1881 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida d: August 08, 1942 in Tucson, Pima County, Arizona .............. *2nd Husband of Lela May McCann: .................. +William E. Shivley Unknown - 1965 b: Unknown in ? d: 1965 in Kilgore (Gregg Co) Texas .............. 3 Etta Elizabeth McCann 1884 - 1976 b: June 30, 1884 in Barkada, Drew County, Arkansas d: March 05, 1976 in Arkansas .................. +Curtis Tipton 1879 - Unknown b: November 1879 in Louisiana d: Unknown in Arkansas ...... 2 Harriett E. Yates 1869 - Unknown b: October 1869 in Arkansas d: Unknown in ? .......... +Walter F. Ferguson 1851 - Unknown b: June 1851 in Arkansas d: Unknown in ? .............. 3 Lawrence Ferguson 1885 - b: October 1885 .............. 3 Orland Ferguson 1887 - b: April 1887 .............. 3 Eunice Ferguson 1889 - b: January 1889 .............. 3 Clifton Ferguson 1890 - b: August 1890 .............. 3 Webster Ferguson 1893 - b: April 1893 .............. 3 Blanch Ferguson 1894 - b: November 1894 .............. 3 Homer Ferguson 1900 - b: January 1900 ...... 2 Ed Yates 1870 - Unknown b: September 1870 in Arkansas d: Unknown in ? .......... +Minnie E. (?) 1872 - 1900 b: March 06, 1872 in ? d: March 13, 1900 in Drew County, Arkansas .............. 3 Claude E. Yates 1890 - b: June 1890 .............. 3 Sara? M. Yates 1892 - b: October 1892 .............. 3 John W Yates 1895 - b: March 1895 .............. 3 Jack Yates 1897 - b: September 1897 Hope this is some help to you. I'll look around for other information I may have. Helen Leigh

Linda, Your grandfather would not have been in a Gates Camp school picture that was taken around 1915 or later if he was in the Baptist Home in 1910. He would have gone to the regular school in Monticello. Sorry that I can't help you. If I run into anything about the name Burrow, I will forward it to you on the list. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Linda Hill <l1326h@bscn.com> AR >Carolyn, >Do you have the OTNF? If so will you look on page 76 at tha tpicture and look at the man that is un-ID. and tell me if you have someone in the picture that you are talking about that looks like that man.My grandfather was put in the Monticello Children home about 1910 because his father was killed in a accident with lumber and his mother was indian so the boys were taken from her.Maybe his brother or he one will be in the picture,maybe they traveled from camp to camp like you'll have talked about some people doing and that is why I can't find anything on them.Their name was Burrow.Thank you for your time >Linda

INDUSTRIAL AND SOUVENIR EDITION OF THE ADVANCE Monticello, Ark., Tuesday, December 17, 1907 Page 8, columns 2 & 3 The Gates Lumber Company The Gates Lumber Company was organized in 1890, 17 years ago, and was among the first of the large mills to locate in the great short leaf yellow pine belt of South Arkansas. At the time they came here the industry in this sort of lumber was in its infancy and the value of the timber at least in this section was not realized. The entire western and southern portions of Drew County as well as a large part of many adjoining counties was practically one unbroken forest of the finest yellow pine in the world. A few small mills manufactured the lumber in very limited quantities for local consumption and the mag- nificent timber which now can rarely be bought then was almost value- less. The founder and present head of this company, Col. A. H. Gates, a native of Vermont, who with his brothers has been prominent in developing the lumber industry of the South. In addition to their mill at Wilmar, they are largely interested in the Crossett, Fordyce, Eagle and Grant Mills and the Jackson Lumber Company at Lockhart, Ala. It is safe to say that the Gates Lumber Company owns one of the most complete plants to be found anywhere. The capacity of the mill is about 90,000 feet or six cars of lumber per day. They employ some 400 hands and their payroll is from $12,000 to $14,000 per month. The mill includes dry kilns, planer and all the departments that go to make up the most improved and up-to-date sawmill. They have shed room for almost 5,000,000 feet of lumber. The company has 25 miles of railroad, 4 locomotives, 60 log cars, 1 pile driver and 2 log loaders. They also have their own machine shops, doing all their own repair work brass castings, etc., and have their own fire protection and electric light plant. The company's water works system is supplied by a 4-inch well, 400 feet deep, which furnishes an unlimited quantity of the purest and best water. This water in addition to being used about the mill is furnished to the high school and to many of the residents of the town, and is shown by chemical analysis to be pure and wholesome and well adapted to either household or manufacturing purposes. The company has a Stand- ard Underwriter's pump of 500 gallons capacity and 6-inch cast iron water mains, further augmented by a 20,000 gallon steel-framed tank 80 feet high. Their electric light plant comprises 18 arc lights and 250 incandescents. The Gates Company originally owned about 53,000 acres of timber land in this county. More than half of this has been cut now, however, and at present they have some 25,000 acres or about 200,000,000 feet of pine timber. It is estimated that this is about eight years' supply for the mill. In addition to the above, however, they have a large amount of hardwood and it is probable that when the pine is exhausted the plant will be converted into a hardwood mill. Their lands lie mostly in the western and southern parts of the county. Five years ago they bought the holdings of the Drew Lumber Company by which deal they acquired about 20,000 acres of timber and extended their territory to the extreme southeastern part of the county. The officers of the Gates Lumber Company are A. H. Gates, President; C. C. Gates, Vice-President, and A. W. Judd, Secretary. It is the largeest industrial concern in Drew County, having a capital and surplus of $822,000 and is a source of considerable pride to our citizens. The company has never been troubled by any serious labor disturbances and has had a uniformly prosperous career. Note: John Byron Haisty mentioned in an earlier post was born in 1909. In the picture of a Gates Camp School, (his first school) he appears to be about 6 years old. That would make this school pre-date 1920.......around 1915-1916. If anyone had family attend a camp school around that time, I would like to hear from you. Rebecca's book "Beyone Bartholomew" says that the Drew Co. camps were from 1925-30. Perhaps the camp in the picture was in Ashley Co. I don't know, but it had to be before 1920. Carolyn jhaisty@tcac.com

In a message dated 11/14/98 6:11:51 PM, you wrote: <<Therefore, I don't think she will be the brown you are seeking. Beth Thurman>> Thanks any way Beth. Appreciate your note. Bettye

In a message dated 11/14/98 6:07:25 PM, you wrote: <<Bill Brown in Dallas >> Thanks Bill; Never know till you try!! Bettye

I had a cousin named Mag, who married a Brown in the Longview area. Her sons were Devroe and Dude Brown and she had daughters named Winnie and Ursula. However, she was a Thurman, dau. of original Marion, bur. in lacey cemetery. Therefore, I don't think she will be the brown you are seeking. Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

Line is right on the Ashley Co./Drew Co. line. It is just above Trafalgar in Ashley Co. Some call Trafalgar Sardis....name of the church still there is Sardis. Dr. Alcus Burney was from this area......It is north of Troy and south of Snyder. Maybe this will help some. The camps would have been in the 20's because Aunt Edna married in l932, and she was only l6 years old. It is mentioned a bunch in rdea's Bayou Bartholomew and Beyond. Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

Hi, Betty, I have never heard of Maggie Brown. All my Browns came out of theTyro area, and later , Coleman community. GG grandfather Alexander Brown, wife Mary Chamberlain Brown, Their son William (1868-1956) married Willie Womack in 1887...they had kids: Wm Leroy, Clemmie, Clara, Garvin (Pat) Jennie, Arch, and Fred. The closest to a Maggie was my Gr Gr aunt, Martha Ann Brown (1854-1942) who married Winfield Scott Paschall in 1875. No known link to a Hogue. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Bill Brown in Dallas

His brother was not though.Maybe I can trace from that way I'm not finding anything the other.The names are spelled different.Burrough was the way the Uncle spelled his.I did check in Monticello this year and they show no records of him,but as you know almost all of the records from there has burned one way or the other.Thank you.Linda Hill Jonesboro Ar l1326h@bscn.com ---------- > Linda, Your grandfather would not have been in a Gates Camp school > picture that was taken around 1915 or later if he was in the Baptist > Home in 1910. He would have gone to the regular school in Monticello. > Sorry that I can't help you. If I run into anything about the name > Burrow, I will forward it to you on the list. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Hill <l1326h@bscn.com> > AR > > > >Carolyn, > >Do you have the OTNF? If so will you look on page 76 at tha tpicture > and look at the man that is un-ID. and tell me if you have someone in > the picture that you are talking about that looks like that man.My > grandfather was put in the Monticello Children home about 1910 because > his father was killed in a accident with lumber and his mother was > indian so the boys were taken from her.Maybe his brother or he one > will be in the picture,maybe they traveled from camp to camp like > you'll have talked about some people doing and that is why I can't > find anything on them.Their name was Burrow.Thank you for your time > > >Linda > >