Davie, she might very well be. My Thurmans did come from SC, and the earliest record of them is about this time. Thanks.

Wonderful! this is just the sort of thing I was talking about. anybody else out there have something on this in their records? Rebecca ---------- > From: Sandra Pousson <slpousson@hotmail.com> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] the leonid shower > Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 12:28 PM > > I found a reference that said one of my ancesters hid the baby under the > washpot on the "night the stars fell" > > Sandra Pousson

Thanks Bill, could you deliver _MY_ eulogy when I pass away? You well-crafted words were most precious and very touching. Could we could arrange for you to deliver it _BEFORE_ I die where I could enjoy it, too? *s* davie ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill White <bwhite.faculty.dc@drew.sesc.k12.ar.us> To: <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:50 PM Subject: [ARDREW-L] Glennon >I wrote this eulogy to my grandpa, Robert Henry "Bob" Glennon, after >his death in 1969. It is so unfortunate that it was not until after >he was gone that it dawned on me that he was the man of the most >powerful influence on me. So profound that I gave my only child >his name, Julie Glennon White-Phillips. (I call her Etta Glennon!!) >hard labors. > > He lived his life very well, and I have not known anyone who has >lived it better. > > Robert Henry "Bob" Glennon > 1888 - 1969

That was beautiful, Carolyn. Thank you for sharing that with us. dave ----- Original Message ----- From: John Haisty <jhaisty@tcac.com> To: <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 9:12 PM Subject: [ARDREW-L] John the Martyr Nisbet - last words >The following is in regard to the post yesterday about my ancestor >"John the Martyr" Nisbet and his last words......

I have just noticed that Alfred Ozment's will executed Aug 15, 1877, drew county , was witnessed by John and Henry Ahrens. Rebecca

Hi Judy, Yes, Old Times can be ordered from me: Rebecca DeArmond 1054 Ozment Bluff Landing Wilmar, AR 71675 cost is $22.00 which includes mailing. a surname list is on the "rdea" url beneath my signature. Rebecca rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/ ---------- > From: Judy Hadokowitz <Hadoks@onramp.net> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ARDREW-L] [Fwd: Drew Co.] > > Rebecca, are copies still available? Thanks......Judy > > -------------- > From: Dwpisors@aol.com > > > I would like to know if I could order the book "Old Times Not Forgotten: A > History Of Drew County". It has surnames of 3 of my families. Please let me > know. > Thank You, > Sharon Pisors > > > --------------E4186F40C3F27E60217D826A--

> Received: from SpoolDir by DREW (Mercury 1.43); 18 Nov 98 23:09:51 -0600 > Return-path: <ARDREW-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (207.113.245.30) by drew.sesc.k12.ar.us (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; > 18 Nov 98 23:09:50 -0600 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27945; > Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:24:20 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:24:20 -0800 (PST) > Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981118232503.00f4632c@popc.ipa.net> > X-Sender: TerriLee@popc.ipa.net (Unverified) > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:25:03 -0600 > Old-To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > From: Terri Lee Wolfe <terrilee@ipa.net> > Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Hist. Museum > In-Reply-To: <ab073f99.3653a0bc@aol.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Resent-Message-ID: <"8szSd.A.YzG.Bu6U2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> > To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2093 > X-Loop: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: ARDREW-L-request@rootsweb.com > X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 0 Miss T., I am like you, I love to know who my gggggg-grandfather was, dates, place of burial, etc., but what was life like for him? - That what I want to know. That is the human side, as you say, that brings them to life. And yes, contrary to most folks, I'd like to know the mistakes and misjudgements they made along the way to really add to the "human element". I'm coming over to the HS to get some lists from Becky for sp. ed. federal reports. I'll put a copy of the eulogy and mine and Melissa's comments to each other about it in your box. As my dear and colorful cousin, rdea, says, "Blessed be those old times not forgotten." bw > > At 11:38 PM 11/18/98 EST, you wrote: > >Is there an email address for Drew Co Historical Museum? > >Thanks, Bettye > > no....no email > > Bill, if I were a descendant of your Grandpa Glennon, or a relative either, > I would really have appreciated that copy of your eulogy; I'm not related, > and I did anyway. From this amateur genealogists view, these are the types > of items I would want in my book on the family. They make the names, > dates, and facts much more alive and interesting. The little tidbits of > information on the person, such as his looks, his life and the trials and > travails he endured are what make genealogy interesting. Thanks for the > post. It was a good reminder of why I like genealogy: it tells me why I > am who I am: a product of my ancestors and their influences that came > before me. > > The plowing and berry picking were particularly personal and poignant > memory joggers of activities that I had the fortune of experiencing and > ones that children today need to know about when they read the histories of > their families. Again, thanks for the post. BETH > >

Beth, the Drew County Mluseum is fortunate to have you on its board. Thanks for serving our county in such a meaningful way. Judy B Judith Lane Bynum, Gifted & Talented Coordinator Drew Central School District 440 Hwy 83 South Monticello, Arkansas 71655

I found a reference that said one of my ancesters hid the baby under the washpot on the "night the stars fell" Sandra Pousson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Beth Thurman (terrilee@ipa.net) wrote: >check and see. Since the estimated cost of an elevator to the carriage >house(plans to use the Trotter office as a focal point for a country store >setting)are $l6,000 thereabouts.....I am sure they could use the money. Hi, Beth, I think I missed the original post...which carriage house is this? Is it the Drew Co. Historical Society who is funding this project? Thanks for posting the info. about the Drew Co. Historical Society. I sure hope my name is on the list from sending my dues in January...I'm eager to see the journal. --Melissa

rdea's asleep right now.....so I'm going to put in a museum plug while she's snoozing......Yes, there are still copies available.......They are normally $20.00....I think there was a sale going on for $l0.00.You can check and see. Since the estimated cost of an elevator to the carriage house(plans to use the Trotter office as a focal point for a country store setting)are $l6,000 thereabouts.....I am sure they could use the money. Also, don't forget to send your ancestor's recipe along with a short story about either the meal's history, cook, or origin of the recipe. The museum is trying to create a historical cook book to make money. Be sure your Drew County relative is included. Membership to the Historical Society is $25, and it includes a journal.......the new ones will be coming out shortly. Even if you can't be an active participant in the monthly meetings, buying a membership helps keep the journal and the museum and archives alive. The proceeds go to support the museum. Usually, journals are left over, and the museum has to absorb the cost. These journals have excellent historical articles which are mainly published by professors from UAM.....these historical articles are always about Drew County. Carolyn, yours should be on the way shortly.......unless you want to wait and have a new one included also. Also, the book by Mr. Willis on Arkansas and the Civil War is going to be sold by the museum, which will get $l5.00 of the cost for its use. If you've ever been to the archives, you will know that it has excellent genealogical sources, as well as historical information. It's a great place to research and should be preserved. Museum open on Fri.SAT from 1-5 Sunday open from 2-5 Drew County Historical Museum & ARCHIVES 404 S. Main Monticello, AR 7l655 870-367-7446 Ask for Mrs. Wilma Hankins or Mrs. Henri Mason or Mrs. Ruby Jeter......give them your name and address and they'll be happy to mail you a copy. Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

At 11:38 PM 11/18/98 EST, you wrote: >Is there an email address for Drew Co Historical Museum? >Thanks, Bettye no....no email Bill, if I were a descendant of your Grandpa Glennon, or a relative either, I would really have appreciated that copy of your eulogy; I'm not related, and I did anyway. From this amateur genealogists view, these are the types of items I would want in my book on the family. They make the names, dates, and facts much more alive and interesting. The little tidbits of information on the person, such as his looks, his life and the trials and travails he endured are what make genealogy interesting. Thanks for the post. It was a good reminder of why I like genealogy: it tells me why I am who I am: a product of my ancestors and their influences that came before me. The plowing and berry picking were particularly personal and poignant memory joggers of activities that I had the fortune of experiencing and ones that children today need to know about when they read the histories of their families. Again, thanks for the post. BETH

Everyone, ARDREW-L was created for the purpose of sharing information related to Drew County research. When we use ARDREW-L to make off-topic posts, we are not being respectful of Rootsweb. Instead, we are using their bandwidth and server space to transmit and to store messages which aren't related to the topic of the list. Please, let's respect our hosts by keeping our messages on-topic. Things that are off-topic or of interest to only a few people can be sent in private e-mail. Keep in mind that Rootsweb is funded by only about 5% of the total number of people who actually use their resources. We are grateful to Rootsweb for hosting us, and we don't want to abuse the privilege of having a list on their server. Thanks, Melissa

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E4186F40C3F27E60217D826A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rebecca, are copies still available? Thanks......Judy --------------E4186F40C3F27E60217D826A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25194 for <hadoks@onramp.net>; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: Dwpisors@aol.com Received: from Dwpisors@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id 6BXOa09168 for <hadoks@onramp.net>; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:21:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <316bd172.3651be9c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:21:16 EST To: hadoks@onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Drew Co. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 I would like to know if I could order the book "Old Times Not Forgotten: A History Of Drew County". It has surnames of 3 of my families. Please let me know. Thank You, Sharon Pisors --------------E4186F40C3F27E60217D826A--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DD4029AC23FEC1899DAC696C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received the following message from the Drew County page...in case any of you are researching these names........Judy --------------DD4029AC23FEC1899DAC696C Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20694 for <hadoks@Onramp.net>; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:15:57 -0600 (CST) From: Dwpisors@aol.com Received: from Dwpisors@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6GALa03998 for <hadoks@Onramp.net>; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:15:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <da0a0895.3651bd4d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:15:41 EST To: hadoks@Onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Lambert Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 My Lambert, Price and Jones families are all from Drew CO. I would like to submit info on them in order to possibly find more information on them. How should I go about this? --------------DD4029AC23FEC1899DAC696C--

The following is in regard to the post yesterday about my ancestor "John the Martyr" Nisbet and his last words: Captain John Nisbet (The Martyr) espoused the cause of Christ and was active for the cause of true religion and was with the rest of Christ's faithful witnesses who chose rather to suffer affliciton with the poeple of God for a little while than be obliged to go bearing His reproach. He had sworn to the Covenants in 1650, the same time and place, Scone, as Charles II. In 1664, he united himself with the Presbyterian form of government. It was some year later, in the year 1666, that the uprising of the much oppressed and long-suffering people of Scotland against the Catholic Church and King, took place. JOHN (The Martyr) NISBET was wounded and left for dead at the engagement at Pentland Hills. Then in June of 1679, he fought with the Covenanters when they were attacked while assembled for worship by Claverhouse. Soon after, the great Battle of Bothwell Bridge took place and John Nisbet was made Captain and fought with greatest gallantry in a desperate effort to save the flag. This White Flag of Scotalnd's Covenanters adn Captain John's men is now in the possession of Mr. John Jameson of Elmbank Place, Kilmarnock, Scotland, a descendant of the Captain. (Note: this was many years ago) The Flag was blue and scarlet emblazoned with the motto, "Christ, Crown, and Covenant", in letters of blue and gold. The day was lost and although Captain John Nisbet managed to escape, he was denounced as a rebel and 5,000 marks set as the price of his capture. His property was confiscated, his wife and children turned out of house and home. Thus, Captain John Nisbet and his family wandered about in deserts and mountains nearly five years, suffering all manner of hardships that they might have the full enjoyment of the Gospel. He was captured in November of 1685 and cast in prison and sentenced to be hanged on December 4, 1635. On his way to the place of execution, it is recorded that he spoke little. All the way thither, his eyes were lifted to Heaven, his face shining, and he seemed to rejoice as "seeing One who is Invisible", but when he reached the scaffold, he exclaimed aloud, "My love doth magnify the Lord. I have for sixteen years longed to plead the precious cause of Christ with my blood. The scripture hath been to me, from my youth, the living oracle of His divine and sacred lips. To be where I shall sin no more, be tempted no more, and nevermore feel the hidings or withdrawings of His Spirit's glorious Presence..........Wherefore, I bid farewell to all my fellow sufferers, for their testimony of Jesus, who are wandering in dens and caves. Farewell my children; study Holiness in all your ways, and praise the Lord for all he has done for me. Tell my Christian friends to praise Him on this account. Farewell sweet Bible, and wanderings, and contendings for the Truth. Welcome death, the city of my death. Where I shall see Him, and be able to serve him eternally, and with full freedom. Welcome, blessed company of Angels, and Spirits of just men made perfect; but, above all, welcome, welcome, our glorious and alone God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost; unto Thy hands I commit my spirit, for Thou alone are worthy, Amen." ******************************** Articles about the Covenanters and Lollards can be found at: Covenanters: http://mirrors.org.sg/victorian/religion/covenant.html Lollards: http://www.integrity.net/cvcrt/lollard.htm

I wrote this eulogy to my grandpa, Robert Henry "Bob" Glennon, after his death in 1969. It is so unfortunate that it was not until after he was gone that it dawned on me that he was the man of the most powerful influence on me. So profound that I gave my only child his name, Julie Glennon White-Phillips. (I call her Etta Glennon!!) I watched my grandpa in the last years of his life, with slowed steps, walk into the last sunset of a long evening. He watched and waited sunsets for more than three quarters of a century. His days were filled with days of hard work, days of doing, days of deeds, love of life and living and with the strongest determination to go on in the midst of the darkest adversity. There were those periods of his life that he literally walked through the pits of hell and the valleys of death, only to come out on the other side, on top and a better person. He had more faith and grace that I will ever know. He gave me outlooks on life that will be with me as the glow of his memory lingers on and on and on. A soft warm glow that has lit my way many times. Grandpa taught me to be truthful, honest, humble, and to give my neighbor a fair share. Many times I have heard him talking about hard times when a neighbor was sick or down and he gave them a "days worth of work." These were times when money did not speak as loud as good deeds done for a brother. He showed me the meaning of courage and brave living. His first wife died leaving him with three small children. A daughter who had grown up and had children of her own died; six months before his own death, his eldest and only living son passed away at the age of 47. And, I suppose the greatest tragedy of his life was the loss of his two year old son, whom he spoke of some forty years until his own death. In the debacle of the great depression when there was financial failure, sickness and death hovering over, he kept on keeping on. Through storms and draught and Saline River floods, he made it with determination that God does not even grant to kings and angels; with courage not even known to the most daring soldiers of all history. I watched time almost make grandpa a complete invalid. The spirited man of whom I used to follow behind a plow, gather corn, and pick blackberries with became confined to a chair and a front-porch swing to enjoy only the gentle breezes that long hot summer days offered in the Possum Valley forests and farmlands. Even in the last moments of his life, he gave no signs of distress or defeat; although invalid and blind, I did not hear words of dispair or complaint. Man's religions teach him great principles of the ages and they teach him how to grow and live for higher things, and grandpa was no exception. He knew well the charities of each day and a peace of mind known only to those who live well, and know the secret of a personal relationship with God. He and a few other men in our community labored diligently to build the Shiloh Presbyterian Church "from the ground up". His name is still embedded in the front steps of that construction that he worked so hard to build - why? for a cause; a cause that has made an eternal difference in the souls of many who lived in that time. In the late dusk of his evening I could see marks of much labor in years past. And even when his tired and determined hands lay still in death, I could see that he had never abandoned hope by those calloses that were still there, and the fingers still crooked for his hard labors. He lived his life very well, and I have not known anyone who has lived it better. Robert Henry "Bob" Glennon 1888 - 1969

Picked this off another list! davie > >> These questions are from actual correspondence received by the LDS >> Family History Library: >> >> Our 2nd great-grandfather was found dead crossing the plains in the >> library. >> >> He was married 3 times in the endowment house and has 21 children. >> >> For running down Wheelers, I will send $3 more. >> >> He and his daughter are listed as not being born. >> >> I would like to find out if I have any living relatives or dead >> relatives or ancestors in my family. >> >> Will you send me a list of all the Dripps in your library? >> >> My grandfather died at age 3. >> >> We are sending you 5 children in a separate envelope. >> >> Documentation: Family Bible in possession of Aunt Merle until tornado >> hit Topeka, Kansas, now only the Good Lord knows where it is.... >> >> The wife of #22 could not be found; I have worked on her for 30 years >> without success; now see what you can do. >> >> I have a hard time finding myself in London; if I was there I was very >> small and cannot be found. >> >> This family had 7 nephews that I am unable to find; if you know who they >> are, please add them to the list. >> >> We lost our grandmother. Will you please send us a copy? >> >> Will you please send me the name of my first wife. I have forgotten her >> name. >> >> A 14 year old boy wrote: "I do not want you to do research for me. Will >> you please send me all the material on the Welch line in the U.S., >> England and Scotland countries? I will do the research." >> >> Further research will be necessary to eliminate one of my parents.

Is there an email address for Drew Co Historical Museum? Thanks, Bettye

You may be wondering what this subject has to do with genealogy. The Great Meteor Shower of 1833, "when the stars fell on Alabama," was a Leonid event. [Nov 13, 1833] A lot of folks thought the world was coming to an end. It was used for a long time to "mark time." For example, you may have run across records that contain reference to this. So and so was born the year the stars fell. He was so old he could remember when the stars fell. etc. Knowing this, one can estimate or even know the date of birth, etc. My tidbit for the day. Rebecca