Loveless family reunion!!! I know ARDREW is not for personal messages, but this may be of interest to several. Our Loveless clan is having a family reunion Saturday at Monticello Intermediate School cafeteria. We all plan on being there around 10:00 and have a potluch lunch at 12:00. Robbie Jean, please call your mother and let her know. Also, have her to let all her family know. Would love to see everyone. Everyone come --just bring something for potluck--and have a good time. Bobbie

Good to have you back, Melissa! Maybe you could "dial in" sometimes instead of having to work all those long hours! Just a thought... <smile> davie ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Jones <tsaritsa@ix.netcom.com> To: <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 11:37 AM Subject: [ARDREW-L] busy busy >Hi, everyone, > >This is just a short note to let y'all know I'm still around--barely! >Last week I ended up working 72 hours. You should be able to see the >results of all our hard work in mid-December when Infoseek's new web site >launches. > >--Melissa >

Hi, everyone, This is just a short note to let y'all know I'm still around--barely! Last week I ended up working 72 hours. You should be able to see the results of all our hard work in mid-December when Infoseek's new web site launches. I want to welcome all our new subscribers, and I'd like to invite them to post to us about what families and time periods they are researching in Drew County. As for me, I'm still no closer to resolving my biggest recent puzzle than I was a few weeks ago. This puzzle is whether Ophelia Aultman who married Poad Russell was the daughter of Martha Jane Loveless and William D. Aultman. Oh well--one of these days we will have all the answers. Since I have very little free time these days, I'm really counting on y'all to 'be good' and continue posting helpful info to the list. The holidays are coming up, and I know everyone's really busy, so the list traffic may go down a bit between now and Christmas. Oh, yes, one more question: The Eagle Democrat (over in Bradley County) published names and photos of its WWII soldiers on Veterans' Day in 1943 and 1944. Does anyone know if the Advance Monticellonian did something similar? If so, does anyone have access to the paper(s) with this info? We could extract the info. and put it on the web if it is available. That's it for now. Have a great day! --Melissa

Good morning, everyone! We have a new subscriber to welcome. I'm eager to hear about their White & Ozment lines. My Drew County Whites are the Zedekiah White line (Zedekiah came from Anson Co., NC to Drew County). On the Ozment side, I'm interested in any Ozments who married into Knowles, Loveless, Hickman families. Welcome aboard! --Melissa ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 11/23 5:33 AM Received: 11/23 9:20 AM From: MWhiteJLW@aol.com To: ARDREW-L-request@rootsweb.com I am reasearching these surnames, William and Willie Magnolia Tubbs, Moses, White, Ozment. Also Ashley County: Oliver, Bryan, McGough, Matthews, Sawyer. J. L. White -Martha Oliver White formerly of Ashley Co. and Drew Co. ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

Anybody know an "Anna"? davie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patjorgen@aol.com> To: <WALLACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 1998 11:30 PM Subject: [WALLACE-L] Anna..Is she your missing Wallace? >In a Ribbesford, England, cemetery: > >Anna Wallace >The children of Israel wanted bread >And the Lord sent them manna, >Old clerk Wallace wanted a wife, >And the Devil sent him Anna. > >

>> Thanksgiving >> Even though I clutch my blanket and growl when >> the alarm rings, thank you, Lord, that I can hear. I enjoyed this and forwarded it to several. BETH

Melissa, Don't know how much she has, but Juanita Moseley's bunch has Ozment geneology stuff that goes way back. Will try to ask her when I see her again about it. Bobbie ---------- > > The youngest child of ALFRED OZMENT and NANCY ANN LANE was: > > > vii. JOSEPHINE OZMENT, b. 1846, Wilson County, Tennessee; d. Bef. 1881; > m. WILLIAM D. ALTMAN, January 22, 1873. > > > This caught my eye immediately! I am guessing that this is the same > William D. Altman who married Martha Jane Loveless in August, 1881, and > this is prob. why Josephine's death date is given as "before 1881". > > Has anyone found the Altmans in the 1880 Drew County census? Is > Josephine still alive then? That's one thing I will put on my list of > things to do when I get some free time! > > Also, does anyone happen to know of any children for Josephine Ozment and > William D. Altman? > > Thanks in advance, > > Melissa

Thank you for posting this! davie ----- Original Message ----- From: <RetTEACHER@aol.com> To: <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 1998 7:10 PM Subject: [ARDREW-L] Thanksgiving >This may be off line for research, but is so meaningful during this holiday >season: > > > Thanksgiving > > Even though I clutch my blanket and growl when > the alarm rings, thank you, Lord, that I can hear. > There are many who are deaf. > > Even though I keep my eyes closed against the morning > light as long as possible, thank you, Lord, that I can see. > Many are blind. > > Even though I huddle in my bed and put off rising, > thank you Lord, that I have the strength to rise. > There are many who are bedridden. > > Even though the first hour of my day is hectic, when > socks are lost, toast is burned and tempers are short, my > children are so loud, thank you, Lord, for my family. > There are many who are lonely. > > Even though our breakfast table never looks like the > pictures in magazines and the menu is at times > unbalanced, thank you, Lord, for the food we have. > There are many who are hungry. > > Even though the routine of my job is often monotonous, > thank you, Lord, for the opportunity to work. > There are many who are jobless. > > Even though I grumble and bemoan my fate from day to > day and wish my circumstances were not so modest, > thank you, Lord, for life. > > author unknown >

leaving for vicksburg early Sunday morning for research at corps of engineers and MS River Com. check you when I return... Rebecca

Thought this was useful and quite interesting! Enjoy! davie ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 8:05 PM Subject: OLD EXPRESSIONS >A rare evening post ... don't want to get yet another theme going on >forever, but many words were used, and were perfectly acceptable in older >times. It is not always just southern lingo - I've heard them in almost >every state I've lived in and thats a lot. > >Borned or bornd was used in many old Bible records and will be found in >other legal documents. I occasionally see it to this day. Other terms which >are sometimes confusing would be: > >Relict of - wife just died, husband is already dead. >Consort of - wife just died, husband is still living. >Intermarried - means married - nothing more, nothing > less but often misinterpreted. > >You might enjoy checking out some of my tips on KYRESEARCH (see URL in sig >line) where I've covered a lot of the old terms and expressions. > >It didn't mean the person was unintelligent ... it was common usage. > >Have a great weekend and hope this helps a tad. Sandi > > >Sandi Gorin - A Kentucky Colonel >205 Clements Ave., Glasgow, KY 42141 (502) 651-9114 >PUBLISHING: http://www.members.tripod.com/~GorinS/index.html >BARREN CO OBITS, WILLS, DEEDS & BIBLE RECORDS: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/BarrenObits >KYRESEARCHING TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips >KYBIOGRAPHIES: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios >

This may be off line for research, but is so meaningful during this holiday season: Thanksgiving Even though I clutch my blanket and growl when the alarm rings, thank you, Lord, that I can hear. There are many who are deaf. Even though I keep my eyes closed against the morning light as long as possible, thank you, Lord, that I can see. Many are blind. Even though I huddle in my bed and put off rising, thank you Lord, that I have the strength to rise. There are many who are bedridden. Even though the first hour of my day is hectic, when socks are lost, toast is burned and tempers are short, my children are so loud, thank you, Lord, for my family. There are many who are lonely. Even though our breakfast table never looks like the pictures in magazines and the menu is at times unbalanced, thank you, Lord, for the food we have. There are many who are hungry. Even though the routine of my job is often monotonous, thank you, Lord, for the opportunity to work. There are many who are jobless. Even though I grumble and bemoan my fate from day to day and wish my circumstances were not so modest, thank you, Lord, for life. author unknown

Anyone checking on the AR 1860 census please check: Columbia, Co., Calhound Twp: GLADNEY, Samuel, James & John. Any information would be appreciated. Also any Drew Co. AR census: Spring Hill & Salem Twps Gladney, John & Richard J Dearh for : B.C. GLADNEY COLUMBIA CO., AR any listing for the names instead of initials B.C. ? Bettye Bond

At 01:07 PM 11/20/98 -0700, you wrote: >Oct. 2, 1917 page 1: The Local Exemption Board received from the District Board for Eastern Arkansas the following list of the men who have been certified as selected for military service and not exempted or discharged: > >Howard E. Hasken, Lacey I bet this was Mr. Howard Haskew who used to wear gum boots year round because he was shell-shocked in the war......never was quite the same as others after he came home. >Harry B. Luckey, Monticello >Geo. Bird Cotner, Wilmar >Morton C. Buins (sic) (?Binns), Ladelle I'll bet this was Merton(Murton)Mirton{the way it was pronounced anyway} Binns.....later owned the Binns grocery store behind McKiever Rexall today...........As a kid I always thought it was two people who owned it. I thought my grandparents were calling it Mirt and Ben's. My grandma said she lost me in it one day when I was about two and found me down one of the isles eating a raw cabbage. Mr. james Binns, the son, laughed and told my grandmother to turn me loose again because at that time, cabbage was the most expensive vegetable in the store. Mrs. Binns is still alive .....mother of Mrs. Earl Willis and Mrs. Barabra Miles. I think she's in her nineties and still has a very active mind. If I'm not mistaken, she was a Veasey prior to marriage. >Jesse Emrick Blake, Wilmar >Herman P. Hayes, Florence >L. Windfred Wilson, Monticello >Samuel F. Hamlet, Campbell > >Same date: When the exemption blanks began to come in at the office of the Exemption Board last week, the fact was brought to light that a wedding had occurred of which very few had any knowledge. The blanks for Ralph Thomas were signed by his wife who, prior to June 23rd, had been Miss Tommie Hardy. The bride is the daughter of D.M. Hardy formerly county clerk. The groom is now engaged in the grocery business in Little Rock. The marriage took place in Warren and the couple had guarded the secret very scrupulously. Their many friends extend hearty, though necessarily belated congratulations. > >Same date: Mr. V.J. Trotter received a telegram yesterday morning stating that Rev. C.D. M'Swain of Emmett, Ark., died there that morning at 10 o'clock. Rev. McSwain is a former resident of this city and was a member of the Monticello District of the Little Rock Conference of the M.E.church for a number of years. > >Jann > > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > >

Oct. 2, 1917 page 1: The Local Exemption Board received from the District Board for Eastern Arkansas the following list of the men who have been certified as selected for military service and not exempted or discharged: Howard E. Hasken, Lacey Harry B. Luckey, Monticello Geo. Bird Cotner, Wilmar Morton C. Buins (sic) (?Binns), Ladelle Jesse Emrick Blake, Wilmar Herman P. Hayes, Florence L. Windfred Wilson, Monticello Samuel F. Hamlet, Campbell Same date: When the exemption blanks began to come in at the office of the Exemption Board last week, the fact was brought to light that a wedding had occurred of which very few had any knowledge. The blanks for Ralph Thomas were signed by his wife who, prior to June 23rd, had been Miss Tommie Hardy. The bride is the daughter of D.M. Hardy formerly county clerk. The groom is now engaged in the grocery business in Little Rock. The marriage took place in Warren and the couple had guarded the secret very scrupulously. Their many friends extend hearty, though necessarily belated congratulations. Same date: Mr. V.J. Trotter received a telegram yesterday morning stating that Rev. C.D. M'Swain of Emmett, Ark., died there that morning at 10 o'clock. Rev. McSwain is a former resident of this city and was a member of the Monticello District of the Little Rock Conference of the M.E.church for a number of years. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Beth, there are grant funds available for good projects such as the elevator for the carriage house...esp since it is necessary for the public access. Someone [who has the time] should investigate this possibility. Rebecca

Here's a great Civil War site that Joy Hobbs shared with another list: www.nara.gov/genealogy/civilwar.html It has lots of good information relating to records for both sides. Jo-Ann Gen Research: Stephens, Lee, Conrad, Mahurin, Merritt, Long ...and don't forget to go see my kids at http://members.aol.com/indianabyw/arts.html

Rebecca was very kind and sent me some Ozment information earlier today. Rebecca, thank you so much for sending this! I hope you don't mind that I am sending this snippet to the list... The youngest child of ALFRED OZMENT and NANCY ANN LANE was: vii. JOSEPHINE OZMENT, b. 1846, Wilson County, Tennessee; d. Bef. 1881; m. WILLIAM D. ALTMAN, January 22, 1873. This caught my eye immediately! I am guessing that this is the same William D. Altman who married Martha Jane Loveless in August, 1881, and this is prob. why Josephine's death date is given as "before 1881". Has anyone found the Altmans in the 1880 Drew County census? Is Josephine still alive then? That's one thing I will put on my list of things to do when I get some free time! Also, does anyone happen to know of any children for Josephine Ozment and William D. Altman? Thanks in advance, Melissa

>>check and see. Since the estimated cost of an elevator to the carriage >>house(plans to use the Trotter office as a focal point for a country store >>setting)are $l6,000 thereabouts.....I am sure they could use the money. >Hi, Beth, I think I missed the original post...which carriage house is >this? Is it the Drew Co. Historical Society who is funding this project? This is the carriage house out behind the museum/aka garage w/upstairs apt. They want to make the upstairs into something akin to a country store. The Trotters donated the office area of the old Trotter store to the museum; in fact, they have even offered to donate a couple of thousand more for some of the alterations necessary to get the office upstairs....such as double doors, etc. however, our real dilemma is the fact that elderly and handicapped people cannot get upstairs, and the least expensive elevator/lift has been $l6,000..... Now, you need to send your private address so that I can make sure that the ladies at the museum know how to send you your journal. Yes, if the project gets off its feet, it will be the Museum/Archives.....actually all in one. There is a museum board....historical society.....archives.....but the Historical Society does the funding for all.......the Museum Board is simply that ..... a board over basically all of the above......Every part works together for the whole.

Bill, thanks for sharing this. It is well put and I am sure it made us all think of our own people. In life's uncertainties, I believe those of us who rever the past and appreciate the labors of our ancestors gain a dimension to who we are and what made us more than those who do not. This awareness should make us humble and proud. Humble in that we received the gift of their hard work and heritage. Proud in that we have an opportunity to carry it onward. Rebecca

I am forwarding this because there were some Gardner researchers on the site. However, I haven't heard from my request for a repeat on the Gardner information I requested the other day. Therefore, I've been wondering if the person has unsubscribed, and I just missed it. Most likely it's my memory....can't remember who was so kind as to share all the Ashley/drew Co. Gardner tree. I dumped my GARDNER mailbox accidently, and I would really appreciate your sending it to me again. I know I'm being a nuisance, but it was a great tree on these GARDNERs and would be so appreciated. If this individual is still on the site, I would really appreciate your going to the trouble to send it again. Thanks.BETH >Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:50:58 +0000 >From: pets <pets@planttel.net> >Subject: Gardner Family History >To: terrilee@ipa.net >Reply-to: pets@planttel.net >Organization: Plant Telephone Company >Content-Length: 210 > >Are you related to any Gardner's that lived around the Union Co., Ark. >area? I am interested in finding my ancestors: Dolphin G. Gardner, >William Silas Gardner, & John W. Gardner. >I hope to hear from you soon. >