off for another research trip...this time to Little Rock be back Thurs late or Fri late. catch up then. Rebecca

Would anyone have information of the death of a Sarah (ROSS) Ragsdale who died around 1856 we believe in Drew Co. She was around 26? Would appreciate any info. Karen

In the Frazer Funeral Home Records in Bradley County, there are a few people listed who had Drew Co. connections. May 10, 1914: Mandy Rebecca Mathews. Charge to rufus Mathews. Funeral services at Rock Springs, Drew Co., AR by Rev. W.C. Hilliard. Place of Death: Warren, AR. Physician: Dr. Rufus Martin. Cause of death: Abcess of the brain. Date of Death: May 10, 1914. Occupation: Housewife. Married. Methodist. Age 33. Body to be shipped to Wilmar. Burial at Rock Springs, near Wilmar, AR. January 4, 1915: Mabel W. Martin. Charge to D.R. Martin. Funeral services December 22, 1914 at Monticello cemetery. Physician: Dr. Rufus Martin. Cause of death: Tuberculosis. Date of death: December 21, 1914. Married. Age: 39 yrs 3 months 28 days. Body shipped to Monticello. February 14, 1918: Mrs. Francis M. Dunn. Order given by Ed Dunn. Funeral services February 15, 1918 at Monticello by Rev. Luck. Physician: Dr. Herring. Cause of death: Appolexy. Date of death: February 14, 1918. Age: 75 years 8 months. Body shipped to Monticello. Burial in Monticello Cemetery. March 3, 1918: Mrs. D.J. Ruth. Funeral services March 5, 1918 at Monticello cemetery by Rev. Rogers. Date of death: March 2, 1918. Age: 34. Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

I'm writing this Wednesday night before I go to bed because I hope to still be catching up on sleep while you all are eating your holiday dinners tomorrow!! :-) Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! I am thankful for all the wonderful friends and cousins I have met on ARDREW and ARBRADLE. Enjoy the day, relish having your families close, and take pride in carrying on your family's special traditions. Best wishes, everyone, Melissa

Jann Woodard (jann.woodard@eudoramail.com) wrote: >In the June 14, 1893 issue of the Arkansas Gazette, a business bio for >Monticello can be found. The following is a list of people who appear in >the article: <snip> >Cotham & Harvill Anyone know what sort of business Cotham and Harvill did together? Also, any idea which Harvill this was? I am still trying to track ancestors and descendants of Sam Harvill (1877-1970) who married Blanche Jones. I'm sure the Harvill in the 1893 business bio isn't Sam, but perhaps it is someone related to him? --Melissa

WELLS/HYATTS/AHRENS Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

I would be interested in the Hyatts and Ahrens. I appreciate your time and efforts. I would also like the Wells. Thanks so much for offering.bETh

I am copying the article to share w/what I believe are relatives. I think I want the whole thing.....always do.BETH Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

Melissa wrote: Perhaps she helped deliver other people's babies as well? If anyone knows any stories about Lizzie Loveless White in a midwife-type role, please let us know! Alice Cabe says her mother was "a real pioneer". She learned to do whatever she had to do to survive. ..... believe Bill white the best source for this...also Lynn white... Rebecca

Rebecca, Thanks for posting this about midwives. It was very interesting reading. A couple of weekends ago, I spoke by phone with Alice Verlee (White) Cabe, who is the daughter of the late Elizabeth "Lizzie" Loveless and Walter White. Alice told me that Aunt Lizzie, while perhaps not an officially licensed midwife, delivered or helped to deliver several Loveless babies. In particular, Alice said that Aunt Lizzie delivered, or helped deliver, all of Uncle Archie Loveless's babies. Perhaps she helped deliver other people's babies as well? If anyone knows any stories about Lizzie Loveless White in a midwife-type role, please let us know! Alice Cabe says her mother was "a real pioneer". She learned to do whatever she had to do to survive. --Melissa

Edwin Moss has a book out entitled "Ancestors & Descendants:W. E. Moss and Vesta Taylor Moss" Also some history of Drew County towns of Collins, Monticello, and Star city of Lincoln Co. 574 pages, hardbound, photos. 6000+ names, over 1100 family groups, tabulated family groups, tabulated index. now at reduced closeout price of $45 postpaid. $10 discount per book when two or more ordered at same time. Edwin Moss, PO Box 176, Star City, AR 71667-0176. [Rebecca]

The family history of Lula oslin & J P Baker can be found in OTNF p 205. Loula Agnes Baker m Schultz Grubbs who was my gt uncle. Rebecca rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/

[sent to me by David daughtery] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Hendley +ADw-minnie-s10+AEA-worldnet.att.net+AD4- > To: +ADw-SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY+AEA-rootsweb.com+AD4- > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 9:20 AM > Subject: Fw: +AFs-GenWisconsin-L+AF0- Midwifes of the 1800's > > > +AD4-Hi all here is something else i thought some of you may enjoy. It was sent > +AD4-from Wisconsin list. > +AD4- Linda in Cal > +AD4- > +AD4- > +AD4- > +AD4-Hello, > +AD4-I am not sure about when licensing began in Wisconsin, but > +AD4-the Midwifery goes back 7 generations in my family and I can tell > +AD4-you how it worked in the northern counties of the state throughout > +AD4-the 1800's. The women of my family who took up the profession > +AD4-were apprenticed to a working midwife while the young women > +AD4-were in their later teens. For several years they not only learned > +AD4-how to assist (the mother) in the delivery, but became highly > +AD4-skilled in what to do with premature, congested, breach born > +AD4-(backwards or sideways), among other deviations from the normal > +AD4-birth. They taught women how to use the +ACI-horn+ACI- to obtain breast > +AD4-milk when the baby was too early or too weak to nurse, and how to > +AD4-use an eyedropper and +ACI-throat stroke+ACI- to help the infant swallow > +AD4-drops of milk and not get it into the lungs. That was just for the > +AD4-newborn. At the same time, the midwife was knowledgeable and > +AD4-skilled at treating the new mother for many normal and abnormal > +AD4-conditions during pregnancy, labor, delivery, and postpartum. This > +AD4-also included collecting and properly preparing and dispensing of > +AD4-medications to both mother and child as necessary (white willow > +AD4-bark +AD0- aspirin for pain and prevent blood clots, fox glove leaf +AD0- > +AD4-digoxin to stimulate a weaken heart, rose hips +AD0- vitamin C to fight > +AD4-infection and help strength return, vinegar +AD0- acetic acid to clean > +AD4-and settle). One terrible mistake that often happened to women > +AD4-was that they tried to give birth in bed. The beds of the time were > +AD4-often suspended from the bedframe from intertwining ropes. These > +AD4-ropes were wound around wooden or metal pegs along the bedrails. > +AD4APg-From time to time these ropes had to be tightened, as they would > +AD4-stretch from the weight of the sleeping people. This created a > +AD4-sagging toward the center of the bed. Women in their latter months > +AD4-of pregnancy were often quite unable to tighten the ropes ( which > +AD4-took being able to stretch, bend in half and pull powerfully) and > +AD4-went into labor in a bed where the lower trunk of the body was at > +AD4-the bottom of a +ACI-V+ACI- shape, with head and feet higher up at each > +AD4-end. This position bent the birth canal and the baby's head could > +AD4-not make it through. These poor women were in labor for hours and > +AD4-sometimes days, often dying from exhaustion without giving birth. > +AD4-The first thing a midwife would do is get them onto the flat floor and > +AD4-physically assist with the weak contractions to move the birth > +AD4-along as > +AD4-rapidly as possible. > +AD4-Midwives were also one of the forerunners in realizing that > +AD4-getting and keeping things clean protected the mother and child > +AD4-from illness and infection. They often ended up washing bedding, > +AD4-clothes, baby swaddling, and whole cabins and families. They the > +AD4-would also be pressed to prepare a hot meal for the clan. > +AD4-Their work was not souly limited to people, as they were also > +AD4-trained experts in the care and birthing of all farm mammals (cows, > +AD4-goats, sheep, horses, oxen, mules, pigs, etc.). The livelihood and > +AD4-future of many a farm family was extended and improved by the > +AD4-help of a trained and diligent midwife who came to the aid of the > +AD4-precious, hard-earned livestock. > +AD4-The pay? Most often none at all. After going through several > +AD4-years of appreticeship, the young woman often married and was > +AD4-expected to set up her practice in her new community. Those who > +AD4-worked in the city sometimes collected a fee, but in rural areas, it > +AD4-was > +AD4-left up to the individual family and if times were good that meant > +AD4-extra > +AD4-food or grand for the midwife's family, when times were tough, that > +AD4-meant > +AD4-she helped a neighbor and felt good about it. These women also > +AD4-were > +AD4-pressed into service even when doctors were available since men > +AD4-were often > +AD4-not to view any part a woman's body, and doctors were almost > +AD4-certain to be > +AD4-male. The northern midwife also had to raise her own family, keep > +AD4-up with > +AD4-all her farm chores, do general community +ACI-nursing+ACI- during > +AD4-epidemics and > +AD4-other illness. Often she took the dying into her own home or went > +AD4-to the > +AD4AIg-deathbed+ACI- of neighbors to help +ACI-see them through+ACI-. Some of these > +AD4-women > +AD4-were hard and crusty, others were tough and resilient, still others > +AD4-were > +AD4-delicate and +ACI-ladylike+ACI-, in other words, they came in all sizes, > +AD4-shapes > +AD4-and types. However, each one shared the deep personal > +AD4-commitment to > +AD4-others. Hope this helps, Rita > +AD4- > +AD4APg- Me too. My husband's ggrandmother is suppose to have > +AD4-received the first > +AD4APg- (Lic. +ACM-1) license issued in the state. She lived in Neillsville. > +AD4APg- > +AD4APg- Sara > +AD4APg- > +AD4APg- Sallia+AEA-aol.com wrote: > +AD4APg- +AD4- > +AD4APg- +AD4- I was wondering if anyone knows of how to go about finding > +AD4-information > +AD4APg- +AD4- on women who were midwife's in the 1880's in Wisconsin. I > +AD4-thought it > +AD4APg- +AD4- would be interesting to find out more about a Minnie Schneider > +AD4-(and > +AD4APg- +AD4- other women) who were midwife's at that time. > +AD4- > +AD4- > +AD4-

Jann, Thanks for this article. This is my great grandmother. she died in 1958, age 97. I have another newspaper clipping of her, with photo, showing her in a classroom at Fair Park School (Crossett?), talking to the children about Pioneer Days. There is no date on this clipping (nor identity of paper either), but the article says she is 96. Busy til the end!!! Incidentally, the seven children (Fifth Graders) in the photo with her are identified as Kay Rhoads, Virginia Davis, Ken Loflin, Carolyn Zarlingo, Rickey Flory, Don Helms and Virginia Terhune. Thanks again, Larry

Forwarding because of the Drew County connections in the following article. Many thanks to Jann for posting!! >Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:50:07 -0700 >From: "Jann Woodard" <jann.woodard@eudoramail.com> >Subject: [ARBRADLE-L] Interesting article >To: ARBRADLE-L@rootsweb.com >I don't have a date on the following article but probably in the 1950's. > >Two Warren Women Total 186 in Combined Ages > >Within a block of each other in West Warren, live two women whose combined >age is 186 years of busy, useful living. In many ways their lives have >paralleled. Both chose the same career--that of homemaking. And they >have something else they share--a deep and abiding faith in God. > >Mrs. Lula Oslin Baker, the younger one of the two, was born in Drew >County. She is only 92. Mrs. Henrietta Temple Ragar is a native of >Bradley county and her age tops that of Mrs. Baker by two years. > >Both were children during the Civil War but have some remembrances of it. >Mrs. Ragar recalls a member of the family leading their favorite horse off >into nearby woods to keep the Northern soldiers from taking it. And she >remembers her soldier father returning for short visits--and his death on >a Missouri battlefield. > >Mrs. Baker is the mother of 12 children: 11 of whom lived to be adults. >According to their mother, they were all "good children, who have made >good citizens." Those living are: Elza Baker of Warren, Homer Baker of >Monticello, Mrs. Aly Goynes of LaDelle, Mrs. Pearl White of Wilmar, Mrs. >Effie Blackwell of Terre Haute, Ind., Mrs. Lula Grubbs of Mobile, Alabama >and Mrs. Essie Mae Crook of Little Rock. Mrs. Baker is the grandmother of >44; greatgrandmother of 60 and great great grandmother of five. Five >general photographs are no novelty to her. She has appeared in several of >them. The daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Alva Oslin and one of ten children, >Mrs. Baker was 12 years old before she entered school. At that time, she >says, Arkansas was new territory and there were very few formal school. >Her father was a blacksmith by trade and once served as County Treasurer >of Drew County. The family is of Scotch-Irish descent. Mrs. Baker was >reared a Baptist and in recent years he e! >! >hlp established the Bethel Baptist Church in Possom Valley. She is a firm >believer in the Bible and reads it daily. As she sits in the home of her >son, Elza and his pleasant wife, and works on a colorful afghan, whe >reminisces of days gone by such as a trip from Kingsland to Possom Valley >by buggy, stopping by the Saline River to spend the night. <snipped Mrs. Ragar info.---e-mail Jann or Melissa if you would like this> >This article has pictures of each of the ladies. > >Jann

How are ya'll doing??????? In the June 14, 1893 issue of the Arkansas Gazette, a business bio for Monticello can be found. The following is a list of people who appear in the article: Carroll D. Wood H.W. Wells L.E. Morgan L.E. Hoke J.C. Knox W.T. Wells McCloy & Trotter Z.T. Wood Walter Lambert C. Tompkins Wm. M. Robertson C.L. Burks Harry Hankins & Co. C.M. Boyd Harper & Wilson R.A. Hall, M.D. Cotham & Harvill J.G. McKinney Tool & Crawford R.F. Hyatt G.A.A. Deane John B. Wilson Jas. R. Cotham W.M. Anderson W.A. Brown R.B. Leslie L.D. McQuiston E.F. Thompson R.W. Finn W.F. Slemmons John Ahrens Leo Bickart D.T. Hyatt H.S. Hart J.G. Williamson Z.J. Wood W.A. Wood T.W. Loper F.M. Loper R.C. Bennett E.B. Windes H.F. Bailey F.A. Lane Ms. Bell Jann Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Hi, what relation are you to Mr. Don Moses, Mr. Roy Tubbs, and Mrs. Velma Moses Oliver? I knew Mr. Don and Uncle Roy my entire life until they died. Uncle Roy was no relation...just very close to my grandparents, Dan & Lizzie Lagrone Wolfe. How were you related to Mr. Victory and Mrs. Johnnie Oliver? My great-grandmother was Georgia Wolfe, and her daughter was Minnie Eubank, wife of Virgil Eubank, in Ft. Hill. I used to spend lots of time with them when I was little. They all lived on what is now Phillips Street by Grover and Dollie Thurman White, the Pearsons, and Bobby and Louise Prewitt Withers(where Mrs. Verla Withers lives now.) The Hesters lived on around the corner, and Mrs. Kirlee moved in there later. I know that Uncle Roy's momma married again, and she was called Mother McGill(I think). She is buried at Mt. Olive Cemetery in Ashley Co. Melissa, I may be wrong, but I think her Tubbs will be the ones from Alabama, near Tuscaloosa area. With all these surnames, I suspect that her Whites are the Ft. Hill Whites, but I could be VERY wrong. BETH Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

Bobbie Lehman (blehman@seark.net) wrote: >Our Loveless clan is having a family reunion Saturday at Monticello >Intermediate School cafeteria. We all plan on being there around 10:00 and >have a potluch lunch at 12:00. Robbie Jean, please call your mother and >let her know. Also, have her to let all her family know. Would love to >see everyone. Y'all make sure to take lots of pictures and jot down the family stories that get swapped. If Lynn White and Bill White show up and get to reminiscing, that may become a pretty tall order, but I'm willing to chance it. <smile> Sure wish I could go to the Loveless reunion! Maybe next year. --Mleissa

>From the Pine Bluff Commercial - Friday, November 20, 1998 LADANE SAVAGE Ladane Savage, 60, of Banks, died November 19, 1998, at his home. He was born on October 11, 1938, in Bradley County, a son of the late Fate Savage and Callie Sipes Savage. He was a routeman for Frito Lay and a member of Springhill Freewill Baptist Church at Banks. He was preceded in death by two brothers, Joe Keith Savage and Clifton Layafette "Tim" Savage; and a sister, Marcia Leece McClain. Survivors include his wife, Patsy Jankowski Savage, whom he married on February 8, 1957, at Benton; a son, Terry Savage of Banks; a daughter, Cindy Gaulden of Banks; three brothers, Carl Savage and Kenneth Savage, both of Warren, and Jerome Savage of Detroit; five sisters, Ruth Waterfield, Retha Knight, Vashti Yorkdale and Roberta Smith, all of Warren, and Katrina Hicks of Little Rock; and four grandchildren. The funeral will be at 1:30 p.m. today at Springhill Freewill Baptist Church with the Revs. Victor Hunter and Roy Grice Jr. officiating. Burial will be in Childs Cemetery near Banks by Frazer's Funeral Home at Warren.

Hi, all, Here's a query that just came through from someone not yet on ARDREW. I will invite him to join the list. Meanwhile, if you have Cotham info. that might help this gentleman, be sure to write him back at: CHCOTHAM@worldnet.att.net >Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:22:23 -0800 (PST) >From: CHARLES COTHAM <CHCOTHAM@worldnet.att.net> >To: ardrew-l@rootsweb.com >Subject: Cotham Family > >I was suprised to find NO information on the Cotham Family on the Drew >County Web site. My family was one of the earliest families in Drew >County, if I am correct. My Great, Great Grandfather was David Bradford >Cotham (Wright's Arkansas Cav. buried Rock Island POW camp, his brother >was Judge T.N. Cotham. David Bradford Cotham's son by his first marriage >was the owner of the Monticello Newspaper ( Jim Cotham). His son, David >Bradford Cotham by his second marriage to Sara ( Sallie ) Green, also >know as Dee Cotham, was the father of Van Cotham who was county clerk >of Drew County. I believe that Jerry Van Cleave Cotham, who was married >to Uncle Van might have also served as a county official after his >death. > > I was hoping to find some info on my great grandfathers full brother >Edward Cotham. AS I understand it there were two children from David >Bradford Cotham,and Sara Green, My great Grandfather David Bradford >Cotham (Dee Cotham)and another child Edward Cotham, who had 2 children a >girl and a boy called Little Ed. According to my grandfather Charles H. >Cotham Sr. they lived in Monticello when he moved to Texas around 1912 >after he married Inez Holland. > > Any information that you might have would be appreciated.. > > Thanks, > Charles H. Cotham III >