My great-great grandfather was Dr. James C. Glennon, MD who lived in Possum Valley and married Anna Moriah Adkins who was traveling with her family from Georgia to purchase land in Indian Territory (Oklahoma) with gold they had inherited. According to Aunt Annie Glennon-Clampit, it was either the Dr. himself or his father that came here from Ireland. She said that there were seven brothers who came by ship and only two survived the trip. She said they landed in Florida. She believed that the Dr. got his degree in Florida. According to some family, any traces of records burned. Milton Clampit has corresponded with a Patrick Glennon in Athlone, Ireland. Patrick believes that our set of Glennon's came from across the River Shannon at Athlone in the County Roscommon. Milton reported that Patrick says the name was MagGleannin in Ireland. Can anybody help with this information? This is just one of my "toughies". Bill White

Melissa wrote that Walter White kept cypress lumber for building of caskets. My mom says that it was nothing unusual for folks to rip planks off the sides of their barns to build coffins with back then. Folks just had to make do with what they had. Aunt Lizzie White once showed me a set of cotton combs (do you remember those, Lynn?) that she used to make the filling for the inside of caskets. While I am on this macabre subject, Charlie Fred Dearman once told me that those cypress built coffins are still in the ground, even after more than a century. He said they were usually filled in with dirt and perhaps all you could find of the remains of a person would be a couple of buttons, but the cypress lumber is still there. Charlie Fred would be a great resource for ARDREW!!! Cousin Rdea reminded me that there are graves outside the fence at the 16th, out in the edge of the woods and unmarked. Jerry Eubanks once told me about this and told me where to look to find the indentions in the ground where the graves were. Now, I can't remember where they are or, if he said, who they are. BW

>Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] explanation of "gentle reminders" >Date: Sun, 6 Dec 98 19:04:44 -0800 >From: Melissa Jones <tsaritsa@ix.netcom.com> >To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com > >Rebecca, > >Thank you! I couldn't have said it any better myself. > >For those wondering "Are stories about Drew County & my Drew County >ancestors OK?", the answer is...absolutely! I love reading the stories >about everyone. This is the kind of stuff you won't find anywhere else, >and it makes our family history "come alive". > >Now, I want y'all to know that I'm not trying to be a "big, bad meanie" >by striving to keep the jokes, poems, private e-mail, etc., off the list. > >Let me try to explain why sticking to the topic(s) of the list is so >important. > >Pretend for a minute that you are the Rootsweb computer system. You are >subscribed to around 4,000 mailing lists at this point, so you get >hundreds of thousands of e-mails every day. Now pretend that you can't >delete a single one of those e-mails from your hard drive, even the ones >that don't interest you personally, because you are being generous and >hosting archives for other Internet genealogists to search. > >You can see how quickly your hard drive is going to fill up with all >those messages. Now pretend that you can only go buy a bigger hard drive >every few months, because your computer equipment budget is sporadic. >You rely on donations from some of the researchers who use your archives, >but sometimes the donations don't come in on time, or they're not enough >to cover the cost of a new hard drive. > >Pretty soon, you will be nervously eye-balling your hard drive, thinking >about how much hard drive space you have left. > >Now imagine what happens when one of those funnies comes out: "Top 10 >Signs You're Addicted to Genealogy". This e-mail starts getting posted >to more and more lists, let's say half of all the Rootsweb lists. >Eventually, you end up with about 2,000 copies of the exact same e-mail >on your hard drive (and remember, you can't delete them). If each of >those e-mails is 1 kilobyte in size (a pretty small message), you now >have 2 Megabytes just for that "Top 10" message. > >Think how much genealogy data could have been posted to Rootsweb's web >servers if only we had that 2 Megabytes of disk space free. > >Rootsweb would like to bring more and more searchable databases online. >But as you can see, they are using all of their resources just >maintaining the status quo. If we can help them by cutting down on the >off-topic, extraneous posts (and yes, I do consider my reminders to be in >this category--wish I didn't have to send them!!), we can help Rootsweb >bring more helpful data online. > >And with that, I'm going to start making my list of things to research at >the Drew Co. archives & courthouse in a couple of weeks! > >Y'all have a good week & I will post when I can, > >--Melissa > >P.S. Where are all your "most wanted" ancestors? Surely someone else is >stuck on a Drew County line... > > >rdea (rdea@seark.net) wrote: > >>Here are my suggestions for posting: >>1. any genealogy relating to Drew County >>2. any family history relating to Drew County >> Family history is the STORIES that go with those lines. >> Plus these family history stories are "local history." >> Gives one a sense of the period. >>3. any genealogy tips, ie, websites, new places to search, etc. >> this is info of a general nature that can help all. >>4. any reference material such as maps, books, etc. >>5. history of the county in general. > >>Here are my suggestions for not posting: >>1. jokes: whether genealogy or not >>2. little smaltzy stories that have nothing to do with Drew history >>3. private mail between two Ardrew subscribers > Thank you Melissa for your "gentle" ( and classy) reminder of the appropriate postings. Here's my MOST WANTED-------- Daniel Trammell d. 1928 in Drew County John Robert Scott Ella Siff Brence Trammell HELP Vicci Snyder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello! While speaking with an elderly aunt yesterday, I found out that many of our LONG ancestors were out of Drew Co. So....anyone else researching this line? My grandmother's half-brother, Chester Dair Long, and half-sister, Virginia Alice Long, supposedly lived here for some time. Thanks, Jo-Ann Stephens bahai@netusa1.net

My toughie is Lemuel C. Morgan, b. 1809 in Georgia, m. Ellen Hobbs, also born in Ga. Was the father of Clara Morgan, who married Robert E. Fleming, my g-grandfather. Also was the father of L.E. Morgan, who I beleive served as sheriff of Drew Co. for a time. A biographical of Robert E. Fleming, describes Morgan as Major Morgan. The 1860 census says he was a merchant and owned property. Sandra Pousson Angleton, Texas ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

This weekend I talked to my mom, who said she & Dad talked to Bill White's daddy Preacher White at Possum Valley Days. Preacher said that yes, there are lots of unmarked graves in 16th Section, but anyone who once knew who all is buried there is long gone. This really makes me sad. Lynn White told me that his grandpa, Walter White, always kept a supply of cypress lumber on hand. When someone in the Valley community died, Walter would build a coffin. Don't you know there are a lot of coffins buried at 16th Section and Ozment Valley that were fashioned by those two hands. --Melissa

Here are the RAYs on the Drew County microfilm of WWI draft registrees: James RAY (White) address: Line, Ark. age: 24 d.o.b. Feb. 25, 1893 born: Line, Ark., USA date of reg: June 5, 1917 John Washington RAY (White) address: Line, Drew County, Ark age: 39 d.o.b. November 25, 1878 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 Robert RAY (Black) address: Wilmar, Ark. age: 29 d.o.b. June 13, 1888 born: Iuka, MS, USA [Melissa's note: this is in Tishomingo County] date of reg: June 5, 1917 Robert Hosea RAY (White) address: No. 35 Moody, Drew County, AR age: 45 d.o.b. July 2, 1873 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 Tillman Alex RAY (White) address: Collins, Drew County, Ark. age: 18 d.o.b. Aug. 1, 1900 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 Warren RAY (White) address: Collins, Drew County, Ark. age: 20 d.o.b. June 20, 1898 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918

Hi, everyone, About a month ago I asked if anyone had lookup requests in the Drew County WWI draft registration microfilm. I didn't get many requests, but I looked up those I got and found only the surnames LEE and RAY out of the requested surnames. In this message I will give the LEEs I found, and I'll send the RAYs in the next message. Items with a question mark indicate words I am unsure of. Donald Bedwell LEE (White) address: Ladelle, Drew County, Ark. age: 41 d.o.b. January 16, 1877 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 George Edward LEE (Black) address: Relf's Bluff, Lincoln County, Ark. age: 40 (or 41?) [I only wrote down the number 4--will recheck next time] d.o.b. Sept. 10, 1877 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 Joe LEE (Black) address: Baxter, Ark. age: 24 d.o.b. Jun? 4, 1893 born: Baxter, Ark. USA date of reg: June 5, 1917 John Avner LEE (White) address: Blissville, Ark. age: 25 d.o.b. Aug. 4, 1892 born: Byhalis (?), MS USA date of reg: June 5, 1917 Lawrence LEE (Black) address: Baxter, Ark. age: 29 d.o.b. March 16, 1886 born: Baxter, Ark. date of reg: June 5, 1917 Pomp LEE (Black) address: Baxter, Drew County, Ark. age: 33 d.o.b. Sept. 24, 1885 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 Robert James LEE (Black) address: Baxter, Drew County, Ark. age: 44 d.o.b. April 1, 1874 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 Samuel LEE (Black) address: Baxter, Drew County, Ark. age: 38 d.o.b. April 4, 1880 date of reg: Sept. 12, 1918 d.o.b.

Rebecca, Thank you! I couldn't have said it any better myself. For those wondering "Are stories about Drew County & my Drew County ancestors OK?", the answer is...absolutely! I love reading the stories about everyone. This is the kind of stuff you won't find anywhere else, and it makes our family history "come alive". Now, I want y'all to know that I'm not trying to be a "big, bad meanie" by striving to keep the jokes, poems, private e-mail, etc., off the list. Let me try to explain why sticking to the topic(s) of the list is so important. Pretend for a minute that you are the Rootsweb computer system. You are subscribed to around 4,000 mailing lists at this point, so you get hundreds of thousands of e-mails every day. Now pretend that you can't delete a single one of those e-mails from your hard drive, even the ones that don't interest you personally, because you are being generous and hosting archives for other Internet genealogists to search. You can see how quickly your hard drive is going to fill up with all those messages. Now pretend that you can only go buy a bigger hard drive every few months, because your computer equipment budget is sporadic. You rely on donations from some of the researchers who use your archives, but sometimes the donations don't come in on time, or they're not enough to cover the cost of a new hard drive. Pretty soon, you will be nervously eye-balling your hard drive, thinking about how much hard drive space you have left. Now imagine what happens when one of those funnies comes out: "Top 10 Signs You're Addicted to Genealogy". This e-mail starts getting posted to more and more lists, let's say half of all the Rootsweb lists. Eventually, you end up with about 2,000 copies of the exact same e-mail on your hard drive (and remember, you can't delete them). If each of those e-mails is 1 kilobyte in size (a pretty small message), you now have 2 Megabytes just for that "Top 10" message. Think how much genealogy data could have been posted to Rootsweb's web servers if only we had that 2 Megabytes of disk space free. Rootsweb would like to bring more and more searchable databases online. But as you can see, they are using all of their resources just maintaining the status quo. If we can help them by cutting down on the off-topic, extraneous posts (and yes, I do consider my reminders to be in this category--wish I didn't have to send them!!), we can help Rootsweb bring more helpful data online. And with that, I'm going to start making my list of things to research at the Drew Co. archives & courthouse in a couple of weeks! Y'all have a good week & I will post when I can, --Melissa P.S. Where are all your "most wanted" ancestors? Surely someone else is stuck on a Drew County line... rdea (rdea@seark.net) wrote: >Here are my suggestions for posting: >1. any genealogy relating to Drew County >2. any family history relating to Drew County > Family history is the STORIES that go with those lines. > Plus these family history stories are "local history." > Gives one a sense of the period. >3. any genealogy tips, ie, websites, new places to search, etc. > this is info of a general nature that can help all. >4. any reference material such as maps, books, etc. >5. history of the county in general. >Here are my suggestions for not posting: >1. jokes: whether genealogy or not >2. little smaltzy stories that have nothing to do with Drew history >3. private mail between two Ardrew subscribers

Linda Hill Jonesboro Ar l1326h@bscn.com ---------- > Date: Sunday, December 06, 1998 12:41:41 > From: l1326h > To: Melissa Jones > Subject: Re: Gentle List Reminder/LEDBETTER > > I hope that this will be o.k. on the list as I am not sure that this is the > place I saw someone asking about this family.If not please let me know as I do > not want to do anything wrong and I can't seam to find anything with the name > of Burrow on the list so anything I write will not be on them,and I am one of > those that if I see something I think might help someone else I don't keep my > mouth closed and I had rather remove myself from the list as to cause a > problem for others. > > Jonesboro Sun, Sunday Dec. 6 1998 > Mrs. Ledbetter > Mrs. Edna Lee Ledbetter,93,of Paragould, died Friday evening at the Ar. Meth > Hosp. in Paragould. > A homemaker, she had lived in Jonesboro from 1943 to 1968 before moving to > Paragpuld. Of the Church of Christ belief, she was preced in death by her > husband Edward Harmon Ledbetter; two sons, Charles Edward Ledbeter and Robert > Lewis Ledbetter; and two brothers. > She is survived by one sonn, Lloyd Ledbeter of Paragould; one daughter, Elsie > Speck of Paragould; three sisters, Margie Gindish of Paragould, Jessie Tate > and Ann Hopkins, both of Corcoran Ca.;four grandchildren and five > great-grandchildren. > Funeral services will be held Monday afternoon at 1 at the Farmers Union > Funeral Home in Jonesboro with L.R. Smith officiating. Burial will follow in > Pine Knot Cemetery in Paragould. > Active pallbearers will include Roy Hinton,Curtis Stokes,Richard Hath,Leo > Barnett,Houston Prater and Garland Erwin. > Visitation will be held this evening from 5 until 8 at the funeral home. > > Linda Hill > Jonesboro Ar > l1326h@bscn.com >

I tend to agree w/Linda, and yes, I am one of the 5-l0% who are members of rootsweb. As long as the messages do not stray continuously, and as long as they are of merit in the order of genealogy stories, such as the MANY from the Possum Valley researchers, I always enjoy them. There hasn't been much activity on the site lately, and it could be because some are hesitant about just what is considered on the topic and what is not. Genealogy by definition is not history, it's the research of one's surname background, but I personally enjoy the history about the moonshiners, Dearmond strength, etc., just as much. If we get exact, these are not genealogy, but they surely are interesting, and they do give us more than just a name from the past. Even the poems keep the spirit of the search going sometimes, but NO, I don't want a separate list or private mailing list. If these are not acceptable, just drop them. What I do when there are queries, etc., that don't appeal or pertain to me is simply skim and delete and move on. I may be wrong, but this tends to be the way most of the ones on the other lists to which I am subscribed operate. Sometimes, I go for a long time on many of these just deleting and deleting, and then bang.....something pops up of interest......not always totally genealogical but most always related. However, I don't want to receive these privately. Therefore, I guess we just need to stick to whose parents were who and when and where they lived. Still, a few moonshine stories or local berrypicking tales do tend to make the list a lot more entertaining as well as informative. One thing I do not know, nor do any of the others on the list that might change our attitudes about the entire issue is what rootsweb says to the list operators about all these. This may be why you send these reminders. If so, do what they say; otherwise, there will be no rootsweb. Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

enjoyed it Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

I will join in here on the discussion re off-topic posts. It seems we need a public forum on this subject so that we can all come to an understanding on what is acceptable and what is not on Ardrew. By doing this, we can gain confidence in what to post and what not to post. Here are my suggestions for posting: 1. any genealogy relating to Drew County [and this could be from Fayette Co, TN...understand?] 2. any family history relating to Drew County I always make the distinction between genealogy and family history. Genealogy is the lines, dates, etc. Family history is the STORIES that go with those lines. Plus these family history stories are "local history." Gives one a sense of the period. If someone should not want to read, for example, the Possum Valley stories, all they have to do is hit delete. 3. any genealogy tips, ie, websites, new places to search, etc. this is info of a general nature that can help all. 4. any reference material such as maps, books, etc. 5. history of the county in general. Here are my suggestions for not posting: 1. jokes: whether genealogy or not 2. little smaltzy stories that have nothing to do with Drew history 3. private mail between two Ardrew subscribers Reminders: 1. subject lines are very important....watch them carefully. a big time saver.....put in your subject line the gist of the post... esp surnames or specific topic 2. and, as Beth said, skim and delete 3. use the snip in your reply as Melissa keeps begging us to do. 4. most of us have busy schedules, but are dutybound to Ardrew. the above suggestions should help with the time factor. best to all, Rebecca

this from David Daugherty....could certainly be of some help. Rebecca > >Click here: U.S. Surname Distribution or http://www.hamrick.com/names You > can type in your surname and the year 1850, 1860, 1920, 1990 to name a few > and it will show you on a map of the united states what state your name was > in. cool! Linda Lewis-Weissinger > >

thank you Bill. also at 16th section, there are graves outside the fence...back in the woods...but no markers. Rebecca

Here are some Rootsweb lists which cover some of the topics under discussion lately. Enjoy. To subscribe, subscribe by adding "-request@rootsweb.com" to the end of the list name and e-mailing "subscribe" to that address. For example, send mail to GEN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com to join the first list. GEN-CHAT-L -- A mailing list for discussions of anything having to do with genealogy. Please note that this is a high volume list. GEN-CHAT-D -- digest mode GENHUMOR-L -- A mailing list for the exchange of genealogy amd family humor including poems and jokes. Please limit submissions to those that are no more than PG-rated. GENHUMOR-D -- digest mode GENTIPS-L -- A mailing list for anyone who has an interest in genealogy. This list hopes to provide tips about obtaining genealogy records and is useful for both beginning genealogists and experts. No geographical boundaries apply. In addition, this list is for any topic of genealogical value and postings from general history to a listing of state vital records office addresses are welcome. HOMESPUN-L -- A mailing list for those who want to have a bit of fun reminiscing. Subscribers are welcome to share memories, traditions, poems, humor, stories, recipes, folklore and home remedies.

To Beth Thurman: My sister, Judy Bynum, and I would be very interested in reading or obtaining a copy of Corrine Price's book about the medical history of Drew County. Our father was very much a part of that history in his role with the U.S. Public Health Service's malaria eradication program and later as Sanatarian for a four-county area, including Drew. Can you provide more information on this book? Thanks. By the way, sorry we did not have a chance to visit while I was home for Thanksgiving. Judy and I had every intention of getting together, but time ran out. Maybe on the next visit. Robert Lane >From ardrew-l-request@rootsweb.com Thu Dec 3 15:21:13 1998 >Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15888; > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:17:48 -0800 (PST) >Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:17:48 -0800 (PST) >Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981204172253.00fad0a0@popc.ipa.net> >X-Sender: TerriLee@popc.ipa.net >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) >Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:22:53 -0600 >Old-To: ARDREW-D@rootsweb.com >From: Terri Lee Wolfe <terrilee@ipa.net> >Subject: Re: [ARDREW-L] Re: hospitals in drew county; attn LINDA HILL >In-Reply-To: <199812031759.LAA01829@venus.seark.net> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Resent-Message-ID: <"zpMlu.A.J3D.awxZ2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> >To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2159 >X-Loop: ARDREW-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: ARDREW-L-request@rootsweb.com > >The records from Dr. Price's clinic were sent to the new doctors people >chose. However, Mrs. Corrine Price is still alive and wrote the book about >Drew Co. medicine. It might just be that she knows something about this. > >Someone said the Monticello Medical clinic had a lot of old records in the >attic of Dr. Price's. > > >Beth Thurman >or >Terri Wolfe >Monticello, AR >367-2701 > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Wonderful idea! I've put this line on hold a few times out of frustration but never given up completely. Here goes: My grandfather, William Harvey Conrad, supposedly died in Winchester, Drew Co., AR in 1935 of a heart attack. He is buried in Scott Cemetery (Desha Co.?) but there is no death certificate for him that I can locate. Dyer Funeral Home handled the details and I am in process of trying to locate those records since the business closed. His widow, Chloe (Lee) Conrad, moved the family to near Dermott and McGehee areas. My mother was only five when her father died and she always said that she didn't remember My elderly aunts, William's daughters, were both about twenty when he died but they would never say much about what REALLY happened. They only said that we shouldn't talk "of such things" and that there was a family secret that they would carry to their graves. They did. I would love to make a trip down to read old newspaper clippings, etc. but can't do it for awhile. Does anyone know of any elderly citizens near Winchester or the NE corner of the county that might remember this family from the early 30s? It may turn out to be a routine heart attack and death and that would be fine; it may be something else and that would be fine, too. Good, bad, or indifferent...my family is my family and I'll still love them. Any suggestions? Jo-Ann Stephens bahai@netusa1.net Gen Research: Stephens, Lee, Conrad, Mahurin, Merritt, Long ...and don't forget to go see my kids at http://members.aol.com/indianabyw/arts.html

Hello Cousins! I agree with the concensus so far: genealogy is more than dates and places. I don't mind the "clutter" occasionally but if it bothers some, why not try using the subject line to clarify the topic enclosed. For example, if it's a poem or short saying, maybe write "poem" in the subject. If it's a query, write "query". Maybe writing "question" or "chat" could be used when we're explaining a place or wondering who/where to write. Just a suggestion but it might be a middle of the road compromise. Jo-Ann Stephens bahai@netusa1.net

The records from Dr. Price's clinic were sent to the new doctors people chose. However, Mrs. Corrine Price is still alive and wrote the book about Drew Co. medicine. It might just be that she knows something about this. Someone said the Monticello Medical clinic had a lot of old records in the attic of Dr. Price's. Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701