rdea asked about the biblical l2.....I have no answer.....maybe the original person below can answer this question #2 Notes: Wagon-train from NC to Miss ["William Monroe" <wlmonroe@hotmail] >> Some notes you may find of interest: >> Dilworth migration: >> "The wagon trail from Greensboro, NC to Joneboro in Tennessee, then west >> to Nashville. Trail turns south to Columbia then west toward savannah, >> TN. Cross the Tennessee River to Purdy, now called Selmer. At Selmer a >> wagon road led south to Corinth, Mississippi.">> >> "Distance from NC to Mississippi, was about 600 miles, and required more >> than two months travel time.">> >> "A move to a new region usually included the biblical twelve familes >> traveling as a unit." Beth Thurman or Terri Wolfe Monticello, AR 367-2701

>From: Bobby Sharp <myrbob@uswest.net> >To: ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Sharp of South Carolina I looking for >information on William Sharp born in South Carolina so time about 1750- >1760. >Bobby Sharp >If anyone knows I would appreciate knowing. This Bobby Sharp had Sharps in Drew Co. intermarried with the Creswell/Criswell families and Hollingers. I thought some of you might be interested in knowing he has the ancestor Wm. back to SC. However, he may be the only research of any of these names on line.BETh

Thanks, Paul. We will be on the lookout for this. Seems pretty valid to me. Sometimes oral history is all we have to go on. Plus you have the photo! Yes, the "seed of truth" theory works in oral history as well. One gets many people telling a similar story, we must believe there is something to it. I use the multiple answers to verify the point. One of the most interesting I run into is the polly parrot slave stories from the blacks. Same stories told in different ways. best regards, Rebecca > The story related to the theater is that my now deceased father-in-law, Walter > Allen Gill, Jr. 1906-1994, who was raised in or near Wilmar by his maternal > aunt and grandfather, Lillian Collins & William M. Collins, played drums to > accompany a player piano at the Wilmar theater. We have a photo of him at a > set of drums and the story from his wife. > > As with most family stories, there is usually at least a seed of truth in > there somewhere - even if the seed is only the photo. > > Rebecca, I think the "seed of truth" theory is extremely well illustrated in > your book, Old Times..., on pages 20-21 about the naming of Possum Valley. > Note the recurring components about someone getting lost in there and eating > possum - even though details vary. > > Paul Groneman >

The story related to the theater is that my now deceased father-in-law, Walter Allen Gill, Jr. 1906-1994, who was raised in or near Wilmar by his maternal aunt and grandfather, Lillian Collins & William M. Collins, played drums to accompany a player piano at the Wilmar theater. We have a photo of him at a set of drums and the story from his wife. As with most family stories, there is usually at least a seed of truth in there somewhere - even if the seed is only the photo. Rebecca, I think the "seed of truth" theory is extremely well illustrated in your book, Old Times..., on pages 20-21 about the naming of Possum Valley. Note the recurring components about someone getting lost in there and eating possum - even though details vary. Paul Groneman

Barbara...you did not include your email address, so I use Ardrew to tell you that Santa is on the way Priority as of yesterday. thanks and happy holidays, Rebecca DeArmond

Paul, Old Times p 28 records the Lyceum Theatre offering traveling shows until the advent of moving pictures. owned by N. A. Cammack. The player piano thing indicates silent films which were in vogue until the beginning of sound films in 1927. The complete change to sound took another 3 years...and probably LONGER to Wilmar..ha. So this fits in with your dates. I will be on the lookout for this. What family does this concern? Rebecca DeArmond > > Does anyone know if there was a movie theater with player piano operating in > Wilmar during the period of about 1920-1930? It's part of a family story that > I would like to find some corroboration for. > Paul Groneman

hmmmm. .... back to the Margaret E. Harris m Levi H DeArmond Jr. they had a child named Sarah Ann [d infant] picking at straws here....[as we do] Rebecca > > <<they had seven girls and two boys: > Armanthy, Mariam, Sarah (Harris) Rebecca ( Aunt Della's mother, Nancy, > Amirite, Mozelle (cousin Will Coker's mother, Johnathan, & James Kilby. All > of these moved to Drew County and each lived to be old--Grandma Harris 79 > yrs.>> > > Kilby and Rebecca were parents of: > > 3. Sarah (hadn't previously known the month and day of her birth ~ 26 Aug > 1828; m > James Thomas HARRIS 2 Dec 1846 Talapoosa Co, AL) >

Betty...that was a wonderful, detailed post! I truly enjoyed every morsel... that's the kind of material I like to see. Have you or Amy ever run across MARGARET E. HARRIS? She is my paternal gtgdmt; m Levi Henry DeArmond Jr. Their son, Louis Gold, was b New Hope, Drew County, 4 Apr 1883. I have always suspected she was related to the Greenhill Harris family, but she may have come from MS. I really doubt she is part of the Rock Springs area family as there was not very much interrelation between that area and Greenhill-New Hope. Levi Henry DeA Jr, son of Sr and Sarah Ann Guice did not come to Drew County until @ 1877. Rebecca

I asked my mom-in-law if she remembered one. SHe said she thought she remembered Mrs. Eva BROYLES talking about the movie theater, but can't swear by it. Mom was too young then to remember for sure, though. Hope this helps. Karen Groce wgroce@netdoor.com On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 Paulgron@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know if there was a movie theater with player piano operating in > Wilmar during the period of about 1920-1930? It's part of a family story that > I would like to find some corroboration for. > Paul Groneman > >

Bettye, and others - It's interesting to me to read about the HARRIS, HILLIARD, and WOODWARD families coming across GA and AL to Drew Co., and knowing that they came from the same area of SC that my MCKINSTRY, MCQUISTON, WRIGHT, MILLERs came from. Only my guys went to Tipton/Fayette Cos., TN before Drew Co. Funny the trails they took to end up the same place. Also in Drew Co. from the same area are the JAGGERS, ROSS, MCKEOWN families, among others. So, we all have links in SC and Drew Co. :-) Karen Groce wgroce@netdoor.com

Does anyone know if there was a movie theater with player piano operating in Wilmar during the period of about 1920-1930? It's part of a family story that I would like to find some corroboration for. Paul Groneman

In a message dated 12/18/98 7:42:16 PM, you wrote: <<Which CLOWERs are you looking for? I have a couple of hundred or so of them in my database. amy>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOU SENT ME THE DETAILED ONES I HAVE. And I thank you. As to the corrections I will make note of them and attach them to the journal. I will also send this forward to Peggy Hall Calk. Peggy is a cousin via the Gladney Girls from Winnsboro, SC. Elizabeth M "Betsy" (b 3 Jan 1831; m 1st John J BISHOP 6 Jan 1853 Talapoosa Co, AL; m 2nd Thomas M GIBSON)>>>>>>>>>I am assuming this is the Thomas M Gibson we had quite a few emails about. Thought (perhaps??) to be of my Zachariah & Maachah Gibson of Barkada, Drew Co, AR Bettye

Bettye, Thanks very much for the HILLIARD and HARRIS journal entry. There is some very interesting information contained in it and hopefully some new data that I'd not previously learned. I would like to clear up some errors though. Items in << >> are from your post, with corrections following each portion. <<Mamma's grandfather & grandmother Bassett, James Kirby Bassett and Rebecca Clower Bassett were both born & married at Tallapoosa AL.>> Rebecca Clower was born in GA (7 May 1801); Kilby Bassett was also born in GA (18 Aug 1798); they married in BIBB Co, AL ( 5 Feb 1821 ..book A/B, pg 21, Agrippa Atkinson, JP officiated). <<they had seven girls and two boys: Armanthy, Mariam, Sarah (Harris) Rebecca ( Aunt Della's mother, Nancy, Amirite, Mozelle (cousin Will Coker's mother, Johnathan, & James Kilby. All of these moved to Drew County and each lived to be old--Grandma Harris 79 yrs.>> Kilby and Rebecca were parents of: 1. Samantha (b 4 May 1824; m Jesse WHITE 15 May 1841 Talapoosa Co, AL) 2. Miriam (b 26 Apr 1826; m Joseph B ROBINSON 14 Jun 1847 Talapoosa Co, AL) 3. Sarah (hadn't previously known the month and day of her birth ~ 26 Aug 1828; m James Thomas HARRIS 2 Dec 1846 Talapoosa Co, AL) 4. Elizabeth M "Betsy" (b 3 Jan 1831; m 1st John J BISHOP 6 Jan 1853 Talapoosa Co, AL; m 2nd Thomas M GIBSON) 5. Jonathan Richard ( b 21 Jun 1833; m 1st Mary Jane HOUSE 12 Oct 1855 Talapoosa Co, AL; m 2nd Ann HOUSE after 1899) 6. Nancy B (b 8 Oct 1835; m Benjamin F CLEGG 7 June 1860 Drew Co, AR) 7. James C ( b 24 Mar 1838; m Bridget Anne CLEGG before 1 Aug 1870) 8. Mary Amarett (b 7 Jun 1841; m William Wesley WINNINGHAM 1 Apr 1858 Drew Co, AR) 9. Rebecca Mozelle ( b c 1844; m Alexander COKER) ----Which CLOWERs are you looking for? I have a couple of hundred or so of them in my database. amy

In a message dated 12/18/98 12:58:35 AM, you wrote: <<Bettye, Which Mrs Harris are you referring to? I have a collateral line of Harris in Drew Co - they came from Talapoosa Co, AL ca 1848 and settled near the Mt Pleasant Methodist Campground. The Harris family I am speaking of was James Thomas Harris, b 1825 d 1868 (buried @ Campground), his wife (nee Sarah BASSETT) and their descendants, Annah America (m Edward L McKEOWN), Daniel (m Della BISHOP), James T (jr), Wilburn, Arminta (m Armstead HILLIARD***), and John C. amy >> *** Peggy Hall Calk's line AMY , The journal came from Peggy Hall Calk , living in Stoutland, Mo; It was written by Doris Hilliard dau. of Armistead Dandridge Hillard & Arminta Rebecca Harris Hilliard & was partially told to her by one of the children of Armistead Dandridge & Suvilla Pearson Woodward Hilliard ( I think) (so it says on the paper.) Sarah Bassett Harris Aig 26, 1828 James thomas Harris Nov 15, 1825 had seven children: Amaris Anamerica Daniel Clower James Thomas (bachelor Mary Elizabeth (died infancy William Blakey (Pine Bluff Arminta Rebecca John Jacob Arminta Rebecca was Mamma...(in this journal) her grandmother Jane Harris came to Tallapoosa, AL as a widow with two sons, James Thomas & Joseph Harris. Mamma's mother Sarah Bassett married James Thomas Harris at Tallopoosa AL. Uncle Dan Harris and Aunt Annie McKeown were born there before the family moved to AR. Grandma Jane Harris came with Grandma & Grandpa Harris to AR. Mamma's grandfather & grandmother Bassett, James Kirby Bassett and Rebecca Clower Bassett were both born & married at Tallapoosa AL. they had seven girls and two boys: Armanthy, Mariam, Sarah (Harris) Rebecca ( Aunt Della's mother, Nancy, Amirite, Mozelle (cousin Will Coker's mother, Johnathan, & James Kilby. All of these moved to Drew County and each lived to be old--Grandma Harris 79 yrs. The BASSETT & CLOWER & HARRIS families came to AR by wagon train afterr the Indian Wars (Chferokee?) in AL. They first stopped at Campground. The CLOWER family settled there and the BASSETT & HARRIS families went on to Rock Springs. Grandpa Bassett bought the place that Uncle Jim & Aunt Ann CLEGG BASSETT lived and died on. Gp & Gm BASSETT lived there until their death. Uncle Jim took over the place--gin, store & acreage. Gm HARRIS was a tall, large but not fat woman. She had blue eyes & red hair. Most of the Bassett family had red hair, but no freckles. She was deeply religious, a prominent member of the Methodist Church at the Camp Graound, where her membership, as well as most of her family, remained until her death. She was surrounded with plenty, fine stock, stallion, buggy horses, riding horses, etc. Fine Jersey cows, berkshire hogs, grey brama chicken, turkeys, fifty bee gums, sheep, a large orchard, fine apple orchard, plum thickets, as well as other fruit. Gp HARRIS naturalized l'shallots in his apple orchard where they grew until after I was large enough to remember gathering them for Gm to put in some guinea dressing. She was a famous cook. That's where Ollie & Mamma got their talent. Her home was in the midst of great all hardwood forest. Her grandchildren are today still using her method of curing hams and bacon, sausage, lard, barrels of ribbon can syrup (sarghum was a disgrace), large stone jars full of apple, peach, crab apple preserves and honey in the comb. She tied the tops of the jars with brown paper. She bought green coffee, parched it herself and ground it in a mill fastened to the wall. She had a good garden, growing the first "love apples" in her community and a yard full of flowers. She was long on erbs; sage, mint, catnip, basil (I can smell it yet), yellow dock and calamis root, slippery elm, black bow, also mullen and smart weed. These erbs were used mostly for medicine, and almost entirely by the natives of the community for what ailed them. She was long on doctors and their saddle-bag pills. Her home was a mecca for people throughout that section. She gave advice freely, but also gave to all who came & went. Gm HARRIS waws the best natured woman in the world. She sat by the fireplace in an old fan-backed rocker, with a cusion of briar stitched peices in the bottom. Her Bible, hymn book, almanac, & Methodist literature lay on a spool table near by. On the mantle was large Seth Thomas clock that you wound by pulling down the weights, and a palm leafed fan that was bound in black velvet ribbon. She kept an open and shut fan in the top of her trunk to carry to church. She slept on a spool bed. Between her house and Uncle William Woodwards was the famous pigeon roost, where Mamma & Papa remembers seeing them by the thousands in their field is a fault in the earth's surface. It was behind this bluff that the people of the community hid their stock when the "Yankees" came near. The ground is covered with rocks on Gm's old place. They could never get good water, as in most parts of the country. They bought this place and moved there in Nov 1854. They are buried at Campground, as well as Uncle John & Jim. Gm Woodward, Uncle Isaac Woodward, Uncle William C. Woodward, Uncle Isaac Hilliard, Aunt Mary B. "Mollie" Reep/Reap Woodward are buried at Rock Springs where their church membership was as well as Mamma & Papa. Well thats the part that relates to your BASSETT & HARRIS Families. Wish it had contained more of my CLOWER'S who stayed in Camp Ground! Bettye Hogue Bond

In a post from Bettye Bond: << Their place was a quarter mile due east of the old Harris place in Rock Springs, AR. Mrs Harris being a member of the Methodist Ch. at Campground, purchased their place 11-1854 & are buried there.. >> Bettye, Which Mrs Harris are you referring to? I have a collateral line of Harris in Drew Co - they came from Talapoosa Co, AL ca 1848 and settled near the Mt Pleasant Methodist Campground. The Harris family I am speaking of was James Thomas Harris, b 1825 d 1868 (buried @ Campground), his wife (nee Sarah BASSETT) and their descendants, Annah America (m Edward L McKEOWN), Daniel (m Della BISHOP), James T (jr), Wilburn, Arminta (m Armstead HILLIARD), and John C. amy

[this sent privately to me from Bettye Hogue Bond] Rebecca > > I had posted a journal type article earlier from the > Woodward/Hilliard/Black/Gladney/Reep-Reap families that came to Drew co from > SC. It gave some good information, not exactly a trail. > > It states... > To leave SC they took the train to Atlanta, another to Mobile, boat to New > Orleans, another to Shreveport where they were met by a wagon train, on to > Rocky Mount, LA. > > It took 6 days to make the trip from Rocky Mount, LA to Drew Co. they crossed > the Saline river at Cornish Landing. the youngest & oldest traveled by > carriage. When they arrived at Tom Gibson's home (6 miles from their new > home) they spent the night except for two of the men and 25 Negro slaves > driving seven wagon. It was in Feb and there was freezing rain, they had to > take rocks to break ice off the harness. > Their place was a quarter mile due east of the old Harris place in Rock > Springs, AR. Mrs Harris being a member of the Methodist Ch. at Campground, > purchased their place 11-1854 & are buried there.. > Bettye

Hi Ellie....The Handleys/Handlys are in Old Times Not Forgotten: A history of Drew County. Do you have? I cannot remember. best regards, Rebecca DeArmond rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/ > > In search of surname Handley/Handly/Hanly/Hanley and Earnest/Ernest. > anyone having information on these surnames or doing research, i will be > happy to share data. Thanks >

In search of surname Handley/Handly/Hanly/Hanley and Earnest/Ernest. anyone having information on these surnames or doing research, i will be happy to share data. Thanks

Bill wrote: However, my couzin Lynn seems to think the brothers settled at Gee's Landing and that place is just as pretty. ....... I am afraid Lynn is correct re James and Alfred settling at Gee Place rather than Ozment Bluff. One of James' sons later settled at OB> Lynn had documentation on this. Burst my bubble wide open! cuz rdea

Just a reminder that Drew County native, James Willis, will be at Drew County Museum Sunday Dec 20, 2-4 pm for a reception and book signing for his new book on the Civil War in the western theatre. There are many, many names in this book from Drew, Bradley, Chicot, Ashley, Union as well as others. Let's turn out in good number to support this author from Drew County. James is a college prof now in KY. [Tracey, would appreciate if you would post this to appropriate sites.] best regards, Rebecca DeArmond rdea@seark.net www.seark.net/~rdea/ www.seark.net/~history/