Laura: I don't know or know of these people but we are, at last, getting some traffic in ARDESHA. If we get some traffic going I feel certain that one day we will start a good exchange of information. Just a piece of information. Mules were better than horses in new ground. Bill Covey Creator of Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/3265/Welcome.html