On 08/03/98 16:07:51 you wrote: > >I am trying to find my great great grandfather and grandmother in > Arkansas and Oklahoma. With my grandmother and father dead, I am >having trouble finding out information. What I know: > > 1870 census, Crawford county, Arkansas > James M. Reed (24) and wife Emily (22) >Child: James P. 1 >James M. Reed was born in Tenn and his father was born in Tenn. and his >mother in North Carolina. I do not know the names of this parents. >I am guessing that Emily was born in an area that was Arkansas in 1860, >Indian territory in 1900 and Oklahoma in 1910. I am guessing that her >birth place may have been around Tahlequah, Oklahoma. >Emily died between 1871 and 1877 after giving birth to a daughter, >Lillian J. (Lilly) in 1871. > Consider that these ancestors were Cherokees, especially Emily. The Cherokee in the early 19th century lived in western Carolinas, north GA, and SE TN. Some migrated west before the "removal" by Jackson and many settled in the western AR lands. Legally one was supposed to be Indian to live in I.T. but by the 1830's so many whites had married into the Nation that many were of mixed race and had many white relatives. Most of my Crawford Co. ancestors came there from NO. GA in the 1840's (settling at Georgia Ridge) and a number of them moved to the Cherokee Nation, I.T. around 1888 to establish citizenship, first applied for in 1886 and subsequently denied in 1888 and on appeal in 1896. >1880 Census -- Crawford county, Arkansas > >James M. Reed (34) married to Martha >Children: James P. (1869); Lilly J. (1871); Luther (1877); Joseph >(1879) > >I cannot find any record of James M. Reed and Martha after 1880. > I would suggest checking to see if any of these are on the Dawe's rolls, if so you might be able to locate their citizenship application which could list relatives and ancestors to prove citizenship. If they exist they could have what you need. These records used to be held by the Bureau of Indian Affairs in Muskogee, OK (Where the United States Court in the Indian Territory, Northern District was located). These may be at National Archives in Ft. Worth now? Also some records are held by the Indian Archives Div., OKLA. Historical Soc., Okla. City. Some of this info is over 25 years old and locations may have changed but I would start in Tahlequah and Muskogee. Ancestry.Com had an index to The Dawe's Rolls on it's database and I've seen a CD with this info advertised in Everton's. HTH. >Lillian J. Reed married Marion Sylvestor York in 1890 and moved to >Tahlequah in 1900. James P. Reed married Matilda in 1890 and moved to >Tahlequah in 1900. >I cannot find any record of James P. Reed after 1910. Lillian J. Reed >and Marion York lived in Tahlequah until their death some time between >1928 and 1948. > >Does this match with anyone's information? Does anyone have any ideas >of where to look next. I have searched for marriage records but cannot >locate them. Thank you for your assistance. Judee verbum sapienti sat, sapere aude.