B. KING, reply to this email, have KING, lived in Fort Smith, Ark. Claude/Lela King. Also London---Is it Riley or Risley??? dr ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara king" <barbaraking119@msn.com> To: <arcrawfo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek,Arkansas > Beautiful story - thanks for sharing it with us. It gives hope to those who > have reached their brick wall but keep on searching. > > Not related but I was born in Fort Smith, AR and most of my family research > is in Arkansas. > > Thanks again. > > Barbara King > Surname Research: Allen, Bennett, Brown, Clark, Craughen, Crawford, Drake, > Foster, King, Kuykendall, London, McLaughlin, Powell, Prothro, Riley, > Silmon, Simmons, Sutherland, Walters, Wortham > > > From: "JoRetta Lewis" <jg_lewis@msn.com> > Reply-To: arcrawfo@rootsweb.com > To: <arcrawfo@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek,Arkansas > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 23:43:24 -0500 > > Mr.Duncan: > > With much respect sir, I differ with you on this email. The memory of " > old ladies", , my grandmother and great grandmother, led me directly to my > great grandmother's home in Mississippi. Prior to making the journey to a > place I had never been but only heard stories of, I had been in contact with > a distant descendent from another side of the family that lived in the area. > We exchanged family data. In one email she asked me if I knew where > the home place was located... No, says I...and told her some of the many > stories my grandmother had related to me as a small child... No TV back > then , so on those wonderful Texas nights grandma told me stories. > > One such story described the house where her mother had lived. she never > saw the house either but her mother, my great grandmother had described it > to her. I told her what I knew about the house, where the smokehouse was, > and what direction from the house you took to go to the Pecan orchard where > the towering pecan trees stood. I described the formal dining room where > they turned back the rugs when all the family gathered for socials or > dances. > > In a return email she said the back of her neck tingled...for SHE knew where > the old home place was and part of it was still there. It was just as I > described. > > Two of my great grandmother's sisters died in 1864, while making their > wedding dresses as their marriage would take place when their beau's > returned from the war. They contracted Typhoid Fever and died within a day > of each other. They were buried, in their wedding dresses. Normally, > because of their illness, they would not have been buried in a cemetery or > church yard. > > Their father, well thought of and not without funds would have nothing to do > with that thought. They were buried, in the church cemetery directly > behind the church, with no stone. They were buried late in the afternoon, > just at sundown. Needless to say not too many locals knew they were buried > in the church cemetery. His wish was to be buried beside them and in > 1871 that is where his wife and family buried him. > > I am not a reader....don't even believe in those things. I would not have > known my treasured stories of my ancestors had it not been for my sainted > grandmother and uncle, both now long gone. Of the stories I have > heard...and there have been many, not one was untrue. They all "worked" > out to be a necessary tool by which I found an ancestor or the trail leading > to that ancestor. > > I am sure there are those stories that perhaps the spelling or pronunciation > might be in question. Some things were called something way back when.. > that they are not called today. And, perhaps there may be a few stories > that are stacked high with imagination...Nevertheless.....I give... hats off > to my grandmother, great grandmother and uncle for they loved history and > their family and passed on truthful, treasured stories about their lives and > events. > > As to the others out there. .who might pass on a tale.....look close. there > just may be some truth or a clue in that tale...I don't' discount ANY old > person for their story or their memory. I only hope my great grandchildren > will remember the ones I have told them. > > J. Lewis > From: WallDuncan@aol.com<mailto:WallDuncan@aol.com> > To: arcrawfo@rootsweb.com<mailto:arcrawfo@rootsweb.com> ; > bhendrix1@cox.net<mailto:bhendrix1@cox.net> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek,Arkansas > > > What do you have now, if anything beyond an old woman's memory. Was she a > reader, who paid attention to spelling? Have you Googled her name and > "Pellit > Creek"? Is it a real place name, or just the name of an old post > office, > long vanished? [That's s mistake which led me astray for a long time, > looking > for a place where my great-grandparents lived in the 1800's] Do you know > where > she's buried,and when? Do you have access to the US Census data? > > Duncan the Librarian > > Yarmouth Port, MA > _WallDuncan@AOL.COM<mailto:_WallDuncan@AOL.COM>_ > (mailto:WallDuncan@AOL.COM<mailto:WallDuncan@AOL.COM>) > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 4/9/07 10:59 PM > >

I, too, can relate to the memory of the older ladies in my research. My daughter and I had discovered that a grandmother was from Norway and no one in the family had ever known it. As I was telling my father, her son, one time he laughed and said' 'that is why we could never understand mother and grandmother when they got together'. Problem solved.

Good luck on your hunt. If you have any other things that might help locate the place in Crawford county let me know. Gail cowart -----Original Message----- From: arcrawfo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:arcrawfo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E.A. Bud Hendrix Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:35 PM To: ARCRAWFO@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek Thank you all for your help but it may have been a Creek on a farm thay lived on Bud ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mr.Duncan: With much respect sir, I differ with you on this email. The memory of " old ladies", , my grandmother and great grandmother, led me directly to my great grandmother's home in Mississippi. Prior to making the journey to a place I had never been but only heard stories of, I had been in contact with a distant descendent from another side of the family that lived in the area. We exchanged family data. In one email she asked me if I knew where the home place was located... No, says I...and told her some of the many stories my grandmother had related to me as a small child... No TV back then , so on those wonderful Texas nights grandma told me stories. One such story described the house where her mother had lived. she never saw the house either but her mother, my great grandmother had described it to her. I told her what I knew about the house, where the smokehouse was, and what direction from the house you took to go to the Pecan orchard where the towering pecan trees stood. I described the formal dining room where they turned back the rugs when all the family gathered for socials or dances. In a return email she said the back of her neck tingled...for SHE knew where the old home place was and part of it was still there. It was just as I described. Two of my great grandmother's sisters died in 1864, while making their wedding dresses as their marriage would take place when their beau's returned from the war. They contracted Typhoid Fever and died within a day of each other. They were buried, in their wedding dresses. Normally, because of their illness, they would not have been buried in a cemetery or church yard. Their father, well thought of and not without funds would have nothing to do with that thought. They were buried, in the church cemetery directly behind the church, with no stone. They were buried late in the afternoon, just at sundown. Needless to say not too many locals knew they were buried in the church cemetery. His wish was to be buried beside them and in 1871 that is where his wife and family buried him. I am not a reader....don't even believe in those things. I would not have known my treasured stories of my ancestors had it not been for my sainted grandmother and uncle, both now long gone. Of the stories I have heard...and there have been many, not one was untrue. They all "worked" out to be a necessary tool by which I found an ancestor or the trail leading to that ancestor. I am sure there are those stories that perhaps the spelling or pronunciation might be in question. Some things were called something way back when.. that they are not called today. And, perhaps there may be a few stories that are stacked high with imagination...Nevertheless.....I give... hats off to my grandmother, great grandmother and uncle for they loved history and their family and passed on truthful, treasured stories about their lives and events. As to the others out there. .who might pass on a tale.....look close. there just may be some truth or a clue in that tale...I don't' discount ANY old person for their story or their memory. I only hope my great grandchildren will remember the ones I have told them. J. Lewis From: WallDuncan@aol.com<mailto:WallDuncan@aol.com> To: arcrawfo@rootsweb.com<mailto:arcrawfo@rootsweb.com> ; bhendrix1@cox.net<mailto:bhendrix1@cox.net> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek,Arkansas What do you have now, if anything beyond an old woman's memory. Was she a reader, who paid attention to spelling? Have you Googled her name and "Pellit Creek"? Is it a real place name, or just the name of an old post office, long vanished? [That's s mistake which led me astray for a long time, looking for a place where my great-grandparents lived in the 1800's] Do you know where she's buried,and when? Do you have access to the US Census data? Duncan the Librarian Yarmouth Port, MA _WallDuncan@AOL.COM<mailto:_WallDuncan@AOL.COM>_ (mailto:WallDuncan@AOL.COM<mailto:WallDuncan@AOL.COM>) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all for your help but it may have been a Creek on a farm thay lived on Bud

I checked Goodpeed 1889 for you. No Pellit Creek in Crawford County Arkansas at that time as a U.S. Post Office. Also, checked Google for you. I looks like there might be a Pelit Creek in Missouri. Check it out. Gail Cowart -----Original Message----- From: arcrawfo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:arcrawfo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E.A. Bud Hendrix Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:10 AM To: ARCRAWFO@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek,Arkansas Granny Cook (Eva Mae Manley) was Raised Around Pellit Creek, Arkansas. I would like help in finding Where It's at. Bud Hendrix ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are you sure its not PETTIT Creek Arkansas in Randolph Co? Just a thought!! Carylon ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.A. Bud Hendrix" <bhendrix1@cox.net> To: <ARCRAWFO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: [ARCRAWFO] Pellit Creek,Arkansas > Granny Cook (Eva Mae Manley) was Raised Around Pellit Creek, Arkansas. I > would like help in finding Where It's at. > Bud Hendrix > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What do you have now, if anything beyond an old woman's memory. Was she a reader, who paid attention to spelling? Have you Googled her name and "Pellit Creek"? Is it a real place name, or just the name of an old post office, long vanished? [That's s mistake which led me astray for a long time, looking for a place where my great-grandparents lived in the 1800's] Do you know where she's buried,and when? Do you have access to the US Census data? Duncan the Librarian Yarmouth Port, MA _WallDuncan@AOL.COM_ (mailto:WallDuncan@AOL.COM) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Granny Cook (Eva Mae Manley) was Raised Around Pellit Creek, Arkansas. I would like help in finding Where It's at. Bud Hendrix

Reply drrman@swbell. Is Emily Higgins still alive? The last I heard of her she lived in New Orleans. I credit her for always wanting to go there. *Information Please!!

David Save a duplicate copy for your self of all these files that I am sending you. Put this one on a seperate cd. It is just a bunch of files to work from which might help another researcher. Judy

Kaye, Thank you so much! I'd been wondering about those Fines for a long time. I will be adding your information on the Fine family to my research notes that are building a strong case for my Corder ancestor's belonging to the Edward Corder line through Edwards sons John and Edward. Your information has added one more thread to my family web. Much appreciation, Nancy At 01-02-07 06:34 AM, you wrote: >Hi Nancy, > >Dick FINE is Hal Foster "Dick" FINE (1913-2000), who was the son of Zach >FINE (1881-1946) and Bessie HANCOCK (1887-1920). Zach's parents were James >Caroll FINE (1856-1939) and Sarah Elizabeth VAN HOOSE (1855-1925). James >Caroll >was the son of Jonathan FINE (1814-1875) and Rachel MANKINS (1819-1897). >Jonathan, as discussed in another email, was the son of William FINE and >Catherine SIVELY and the grandson of Vinet FINE. > >Hope this helps, >Kaye Larrabee > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nancy, Dick FINE is Hal Foster "Dick" FINE (1913-2000), who was the son of Zach FINE (1881-1946) and Bessie HANCOCK (1887-1920). Zach's parents were James Caroll FINE (1856-1939) and Sarah Elizabeth VAN HOOSE (1855-1925). James Caroll was the son of Jonathan FINE (1814-1875) and Rachel MANKINS (1819-1897). Jonathan, as discussed in another email, was the son of William FINE and Catherine SIVELY and the grandson of Vinet FINE. Hope this helps, Kaye Larrabee

In a message dated 1/31/2007 8:46:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, nancy@halvorson.us writes: Yes, it certainly does. How is Jonathan Fine related to Vinet? I found Vinet in an old Tax List for Shenandoah County, VA, where my line of Corders were living ca 1790 - 1820. Some of the familiar names were - 1782 Tax List for Shenandoah County, VA John Cooksy Vinet, John + Peter Fine Chas Gordon If I keep gathering up clues, I may find that Robert Corder and Abraham Corder really were cousins. My grandfather's sister m. a Thomas Graham. A relative of his stated that Robert and Abe's boys were cousins. It may turn out that she was right. Thanks, Nancy Hi Nancy, Vinet FINE had William FINE (1781-1864 Washington County, AR). William FINE and Catherine SIVELY (1791-1881) had Jonathan FINE (1814 AL - 1875 Crawford County, AR. Jonathan is my great-great grandfather. Kaye Larrabee

Click here: Crawford County, ARGenWeb Page -------Original Message------- From: Grandma24k@aol.com Date: 01/30/07 14:28:00 To: arcrawfo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARCRAWFO] Gregory-Corder-Fine Families of Crawford Co. can someone give me the link to crawford co. web site please. thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARCRAWFO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kaye, At 31-01-07 07:49 PM, you wrote: > > >Vinet FINE had William FINE (1781-1864 Washington County, AR). William FINE >and Catherine SIVELY (1791-1881) had Jonathan FINE (1814 AL - 1875 Crawford >County, AR. > >Jonathan is my great-great grandfather. > Thanks, Kaye. At long last, I now know how Jonathan Fine is related to Ann Corder Fine. I guess his living next door to my family is just one more piece to the puzzle I am attempting to solve as I look for a link between our families. This new clue is going into my research connecting the John Corder family with my Reuben Corder family. I have just one more question, please. Do you know how the Dick Fine who was a pall bearer for my gr-aunt - "Casket bearers ... David Wilson, ... Dick Fine, Ancel Jones" for my gr-aunt Mallissa (Simmons) Corder [86], w/o my Gr.-Uncle John Corder b. 1782 in Crawford Co. AR. might be related to Jonathan Fine or other Fines who were related to Ann Corder Fine>. Dick Fine also attended a birthday party for Mr. and Mrs. Robert Meadors. Relatives attending the party were " ... Mr. and Mrs, Dick Fine of Fort Smith, AR, Mr. and Mrs. David Wilson and children of Graphic ... . Thanks, Nancy

At 31-01-07 04:15 PM, you wrote: > >David FINE (1764-1845), who married Ann CORDER, was the son of Thomas FINE, >Sr. (1725-1817) and Agnes MERCHANT (1730-after 1794). This same couple, >Thomas and Agnes FINE, were the parents of several children, one of whom was >Vinet FINE (1749-1784). Vinet's line, through his son William >FINE (1781-1864 >Washington County, AR) are the ancestors of the Crawford County FINEs, or >most >of them. > >Does this make sense? > Yes, it certainly does. How is Jonathan Fine related to Vinet? I found Vinet in an old Tax List for Shenandoah County, VA, where my line of Corders were living ca 1790 - 1820. Some of the familiar names were - 1782 Tax List for Shenandoah County, VA John Cooksy Vinet, John + Peter Fine Chas Gordon If I keep gathering up clues, I may find that Robert Corder and Abraham Corder really were cousins. My grandfather's sister m. a Thomas Graham. A relative of his stated that Robert and Abe's boys were cousins. It may turn out that she was right. Thanks, Nancy

Hi Nancy, David FINE (1764-1845), who married Ann CORDER, was the son of Thomas FINE, Sr. (1725-1817) and Agnes MERCHANT (1730-after 1794). This same couple, Thomas and Agnes FINE, were the parents of several children, one of whom was Vinet FINE (1749-1784). Vinet's line, through his son William FINE (1781-1864 Washington County, AR) are the ancestors of the Crawford County FINEs, or most of them. Does this make sense? Kaye Larrabee

Kaye, At 30-01-07 08:10 AM, you wrote: >Hello Cousins, > >Jonathan FINE was my great-great grandfather. If I can help anyone with >this batch of Crawford County folks, I'm happy to do so! > >Kaye Larrabee I have been wondering if there were cross-family connections between my Corder line and others that show up in Crawford County. AR. I have also found some near misses as I have looked for links to the John Corder family. John Corder was a brother to Edward Corder. They were both in VA in the 1700's. As I mentioned earlier, sons of Edward Corder migrated to Wayne and Whitley County, KY. Edward's brother John Corder migrated to eastern TN before 1800. Along the way, his daughter Ann Corder married David Fine. John and his daughter Ann and her husband David Fine along with his other married children Patty Corder Job and Nelly Corder Huff and Sophia Corder Allen were mentioned in a court case in Washington County, MO in 1822 (none lived in the state). Another researcher noted that the Huff family was in Cocke County, TN. John Corder was probably still in Washington Co or Greene County, TN. Do you have any Fine research that might connect to the David Fine who m. Ann Corder? Nancy

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